The Syndicate

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Black Rock wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:BR, which players should we look at?

I'm going to be looking at MM today. I'm also going to be looking at players pushing certain lynches I don't agree with. I'm going to have to start some detective work now that Enrique is dead. I'm going to finish reading the night post first though, the bastards tried to kill me. I totally noticed Chris' post before I saw that.

Makes sense. Are you looking at MM out of your own accord or due to some of the thoughts I presented or a combination?

Also, what do you mean by looking at players pushing certain lynches you don't agree with? Can you elaborate?

MovingPictures07 wrote:BR, which players should we look at?

Chris wrote:Nub Daleks.

How'd you survive BR?

MovingPictures07 wrote:zeek, I just have to say it was an incredible pleasure playing with you on your first game here, and I really enjoyed your company, and thanks for realizing my intentions, even if we got off to a bad start. You played REALLY well and you fought admirably for the civvie cause. I look forward to the next game, buddy.

Now, for the record, I am a civvie. I swear on my sig bets with both keys and Enrique that I am. I'm just really stressed out RL and lately having a really hard time dealing with being in defense mode, especially with Enrique blabbering nonsense (no offense ). I know that sounds odd, but I really think my flip will provide more good than harm at this point. Trust me, I've thought about this. It's not a simple sacrifice. I have assessed that this needs to happen and it needs to happen now. There's no trick. I promise all of you.

I'd prefer that I go today... but I won't argue against an Enrique lynch either.

Votes MP

S~V~S wrote:Black Rock, I am a civvie. And with Epi, I have a problem getting past his tone, even though I know he's putting it on as he is actually a nice guy. But you know me of old, I tend to react emotionally to tone, especially a tone of superiority, and I overreact. You have seen this in the past. I am trying to eliminate that element from my game.

S~V~S wrote:Two living people have less posts than Black Rock, Ninjajujube & Bass. Faraday, Elo, Hedge, Daisy & Sabie all have less posts than LC. Why did you pull those two names out of a hat, Made?

Epignosis wrote:I cannot recall when I have ever played with LC that he was good. I think he's been evil in every game I've played with him. I'm willing to admit that might tinge my perception here. But all this does smell.

Elohcin wrote:I just wanted to speak up and say that I am following along in the thread, but I don't have anything to add to the discussions. Does that ever happen to you?

Dom wrote:

Enrique wrote:

zeek wrote:I want Enrique to explain honeytongued viridescence survived.
MP submergence Elo have explained.

I don't know >_> It's not a part of my role, and while I did receive a recruitment boon, it wasn't anything this big and it's been spent for a while. I can only assume The Master got blocked, or I got protected or something. Regardless, I'm glad it didn't go through.

@Snow Dog: I kinda disagree with the idea that self-preservation "isn't very civvie," since the only people we can be 100% confident on in this game is ourselves. Made didn't even do that, though, he kept his vote for Dom which was the only one. What opportunity did he jump on? Of course he wasn't gonna vote himself..

Honestly, I don't know if there's much more to this case on Made than "he's playing differently" which makes me wary of voting for him. I mean, there's the possibility of a save, but again... how could you possibly pull off a save where this guy had 5 votes and the final lynchee had only one an hour before the lynch? No team has the numbers to pull that off, and even if they did it'd be pretty dumb to all stack their votes on the same player instead of a lynch frontrunner. Made's voters yesterday were pretty much all drive bys, so I'm not sure why we're suddenly giving that "case" so much importance.

So yeah I guess I'm defending him now, I just don't get why people are so insistent that he must be the "focus" today.

Have you even read a single post I have made about Made? You are COMPLETELY misrepresenting the facts. Completely.

Turnip Head wrote:Yes I agree. I think Made needs to be the top priority today, though I'm more suspicious of MP myself.

Long Con wrote:I found Epig's points about Made repeatedly defending you, Enrique, coupled with the Made save seeming last lynch, compounded by Epig and BR unrelentingly suspecting you... To be very convincing. My vote will go to Made.

Chris wrote:BR, Rico's subtle/not-so-subtle defending of MP has me feeling like he could be a teammate.

How do you feel about MP? And if you think he could be bad, do you think he and Rico could be teammates?

Enrique wrote:I think we're probably civ teammates.

But let's also not forget how close he came to getting me lynched on Day 1 I'm not hiding anything, my opinions are exactly the ones you see in this thread. I think MP is good so I feel OK with defending him.

Enrique wrote:I'm not saying you did... I was clearing that up myself... it's OK.

Nothing on anyone else then?

Enrique wrote:

Black Rock wrote:I have basically caught up right now. The one person who stood out to me the most was enrique. His posts read false to me. A few posts an amount of pages back kinda clinched it for me. My vote is likely going his way today.

Black Rock wrote:

Enrique wrote:My post explains why I think the way I do... we have a big list of civvies, a big list of Daleks, and a big list of Cybermen (and an indie role). There are 3 more players than there are roles, so we know there's some roles missing. It's just my interpretation, which I'm not trying to force on anyone, that the remaining roles are probably their own faction and not in any of the existing ones. Think about it. Why have "Dalek #1" and "Dalek #2" with secret powers instead of just naming one of then "Davros?"

Now what the hell are you smoking? I was away for a few minutes reading about the Time Lords, and tbh I really should be sleeping considering it's 5am and I have plans for noon. But Jesus Christ the reactions I get sometimes..

Ok so it's page 19, the back and forth between him and Zeek. It's not this post in particular but the whole exchange that felt off and false.

Black Rock wrote:Alright slowly catching up and trying to stay current.

A few thoughts on players.

Daisy seems genuine to me, I am leaning civvie here.

Enrique reads baddie to me, once again that's where my vote will probably go.

MP, I'm feeling pretty neutral about him right now. I'm not seeing anything baddie here, just pushy.

I am going to look into Epigs voters posts as well. I feel like there was a last minute push in his direction and I personally did not see why he was so suspicious. Last day is the last I need to completely catch up on so I feel like I am working with full info here.

Linki: Gotrees, how does it make him more suspicious? I might be missing something here.

This is about all the content I could find from you. You understand why I would want you to say more, right? Every other post is about you catching up or simply stopping by to mention you're gonna vote for me. Best reason you've given is that you thought my exchange with zeek seemed fake to you, whatever that means.

linki- Well, he was one of six votes. I was another one of the six, and actually the first one to voice suspicion for Epig, which LC never really did before his vote. I'm not accusing LC of anything, I was just curious to hear your thoughts.

linki2- Aggressive in a Mafia way, dw everything's good, but I was kinda surprised I just reiterated a question splints asked and your post immediately went to "Of course you'd want me to talk about other people, you baddie!"

Enrique wrote:That was unnecessarily aggressive Would you rather we let you play this game without offering any insight? I actually went through all your posts, out of which the only thing I could gather is that you think I'm bad and you vote for me every day (reminds me of someone..). And you said you think Daisy is good once. It's almost Day 4, let's get people talking and not be content with drive by voting.

fingersplints wrote:

Enrique wrote:

Black Rock wrote:Alright slowly catching up and trying to stay current.

A few thoughts on players.

Daisy seems genuine to me, I am leaning civvie here.

Enrique reads baddie to me, once again that's where my vote will probably go.

MP, I'm feeling pretty neutral about him right now. I'm not seeing anything baddie here, just pushy.

I am going to look into Epigs voters posts as well. I feel like there was a last minute push in his direction and I personally did not see why he was so suspicious. Last day is the last I need to completely catch up on so I feel like I am working with full info here.

Linki: Gotrees, how does it make him more suspicious? I might be missing something here.

I want BR to say stuff other than she's voting for me This is the best I've been able to find.

BR, do you have anything to say about anyone else? Let's not leave it at "the Epig voters," be specific.

I'd like to hear BR's take on LC this game.

Enrique wrote:

Black Rock wrote:Alright slowly catching up and trying to stay current.

A few thoughts on players.

Daisy seems genuine to me, I am leaning civvie here.

Enrique reads baddie to me, once again that's where my vote will probably go.

MP, I'm feeling pretty neutral about him right now. I'm not seeing anything baddie here, just pushy.

I am going to look into Epigs voters posts as well. I feel like there was a last minute push in his direction and I personally did not see why he was so suspicious. Last day is the last I need to completely catch up on so I feel like I am working with full info here.

Linki: Gotrees, how does it make him more suspicious? I might be missing something here.

I want BR to say stuff other than she's voting for me This is the best I've been able to find.

BR, do you have anything to say about anyone else? Let's not leave it at "the Epig voters," be specific.

Epignosis wrote:

Enrique wrote:

juliets wrote:I see Epi - thats what I mean about things slipping through that seem small that add up to something bigger. I'll be interested to see what Enrique has to say about your observation.

I can tell you I thought all 3 were bad at the time, and that I really didn't expect a Snow Dog lynch to actually happen that day (or Epig at the time I voted for that matter). I've chosen poorly but considering all 3 of you got lynched it's not exactly like I'm the only one.

Am I interpreting this correctly? That you vote for people you don't think will actually get lynched?

Tell me how that's a civilian strategy. :wonka:

Dom wrote:

Black Rock wrote:

Dom wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Enrique wrote:... how is it too late? If you both vote snow dog it's a tie between them.

Where have YOU been?

Exactly!

what

Dom wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Enrique wrote:... how is it too late? If you both vote snow dog it's a tie between them.

Where have YOU been?

Gotrees wrote:

Black Rock wrote:I have basically caught up right now. The one person who stood out to me the most was enrique. His posts read false to me. A few posts an amount of pages back kinda clinched it for me. My vote is likely going his way today.

One thing I noticed on Enrique was that he and Dana seemed to be backing each other up a lot early on (Day 0?).

I know they know each other pretty well outside of mafia, so I just attributed it to that, but it might still be worth mentioning/looking into.

Otherwise Dana doesn't seem to have done anything very mafia-like, as far as I can tell.

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Enrique wrote:My post explains why I think the way I do... we have a big list of civvies, a big list of Daleks, and a big list of Cybermen (and an indie role). There are 3 more players than there are roles, so we know there's some roles missing. It's just my interpretation, which I'm not trying to force on anyone, that the remaining roles are probably their own faction and not in any of the existing ones. Think about it. Why have "Dalek #1" and "Dalek #2" with secret powers instead of just naming one of then "Davros?"

Now what the hell are you smoking? I was away for a few minutes reading about the Time Lords, and tbh I really should be sleeping considering it's 5am and I have plans for noon. But Jesus Christ the reactions I get sometimes..

Spacedaisy wrote:Ok, that whole freaking night conversation went nutty after I voted. Which I don't think I commented on my planet vote so I will now. I don't know jack about Dr. Who. And no one had voted for Azure, so I thought, "what the heck, why not toss a vote there?" And I did. The end.

Now, as to my thoughts.... DFaraday's voting seemed weird. Why? Because I am fairly certain he is a big Dr. Who fan, so I can't see why he would have treated it in such an offhand manner. If I had been around to see that initial vote of his for Azure, I would have probably changed my vote based entirely upon that.

To zeek who bashed people for choosing Azure because they like the color blue... Come on man, if you know nothing about Dr. Who, you would be relying entirely on someone else's guidance for which option, which an possibly open you up to manipulation. So you can either choose randomly for whatever half ass reason you come up with (like I did) because you have no info and don't feel like trying to wrap your brain around the various Wikipedia descriptions of each planet, or you try to understand what the Whovians are saying about each one and hope you are not taking the advice of a Baddie. Six one way, half a dozen the other. If you don't like it and want to call me irresponsible, be my guest. Seems to be par for the course in this game.

I was surprised by the recently deceased. Not who I would have expected.

Bea, if I had a rum and coke right now I would totally drink to you because, you know, you're awesome and stuff. Even with a cactus stuck to your rear. And David, props to you for writing a post when you have to be up to be at work and three freaking o'clock in the morning. Love you guys!

Linki: BR which posts pinged you?

juliets wrote:Wow - and this is only day 0. Just catching up and providing some thoughts.

As a non-whovian I appreciate whatever information I can get on the characters in this game that comes from the tv show. I did not know the Master could regenerate but I did know Dr. Who does because it seems to be the cause of much angst in my Whovian friends. So I didn't see anything odd about zeeks post. I'm also wondering if now people will be reluctant to share details that may be important about the tv show.

I also see MP as normal MP right now. I usually can't tell about him until later in the game but he does seem to jump on seemingly small things early. Or make up theories about things that seem off base, even when he's civ. So, I'm not thinking he is bad at this point in time.

This is not going to be a favorable opinion but I see the whole thing as much to do about nothing. I don't think Dr. Who was left out of the regeneration conversation for a nefarious reason and I don't think MP has found a baddie behavior. Maybe part of my feeling is I know all too well how easy it is to say something that is taken wrong and be seen as a baddie because of it.