The Syndicate

I wanted to also say, yes I bought the beat down and yes I had no idea what it really was. I posted some stupid thing about it being a one time kill after both the baddie teams were dead. Then LC came in read what I had posted and explained it to me. I felt so stupid that I bid on a prize and didn't know what it was. I also argued with LC about the price he was willing to spend on it because I thought it was a one time kill.

Turnip Head wrote:Lame! The BTSC that Bass and MP got really swung the game since they hooked up with the killer. Oh well. I'm happy with how I played this game, I always seem to come up just short.

Thanks a bunch for setting this up boo. This was a very fun game and was hosted flawlessly.

He hooked up with the killer's sidekick.

I loved this game more than anything. I loved being the push behind the voice. We hid most things in my possession because LC was such a target. If he were to be lynched he would have had nothing to lose.

TH, we killed you because you were the pain in the side that could have wrecked our plan. I would have loved to make the same deal with you as I did with LoRab and Bea but the option wasn't there until you died.

When the option did come up I was like "Hell YES!" I would rather win with others than kill them. I chose yellow because there was two yellows left alive and we knew LoRab was yellow. I love LoRab and bea on a very personal level

so I'm glad we could. I felt bad about splints because she's got some personal love from me as well.

MP: Thanks for your loyalty, we appreciate it greatly. The game would have gone all bad for us if you hadn't. I had some paranoia, because I'm a paranoid person but you never let me down... this game.

Bass: Thanks for coming to us, we needed the support.

Boo: You always rock as a host, but this game, this was the best.

Those are my first thoughts.

LoRab wrote:I PM'ed Boo to trade Atlantic with you when I get it back. Just to save time.

I also pm'd him. Lol

Awww splints. You must be the green. Let's see how this night ends. I'm very curious.

I am dying in anticipation.

LoRab wrote:Checking with my associate.

Does your associate have a name?

We could play Hangman

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LoRab wrote:Didn't know where you stood mp and kind of like my holdings. I am mulling. And need to discuss with my partner.

I will give it right back after we make the connection, the only stipulation is I need the colour group to connect us as a team. I do own that prize.

MovingPictures07 wrote:I just need to make sure I've traded with the necessary parties before this ends, that's all. Shouldn't be hard though.

I understand, I do not know who her partner is.

MovingPictures07 wrote:Sorry about that, Hanna. The cards didn't fall that way.

My friendship request was denied; I have resent a new one. I need it to be accepted in order to participate fully in this arrangement.

Who denied you?

boo wrote:
Captain Planet: Allows the player who uses this power to choose for any other set in the game (meaning not their starting property set) that they or someone they BTSC with has a property of. Once chosen they can then search each night for and get BTSC with (any BTSC either the searcher has or the person they search and find has is also part of this BTSC, and they can all win together). Anyone who holds one of the properties at the time the power is used (even if that card wasn’t their starter) is considered to be part of the set (if traded after the power is used, the person who had the property at the time of use is still the person who if searched would result in getting BTSC with the searcher). Bids for this power are made privately via PM. If BTSC is gained as a result of using this card, any NK anyone in the BTSC has is lost. - Starts at $500

I have a proposal. Who may be interested in being my friend? LoRab? Fingersplints? Bea? I believe I know which colour group LoRab is, would FS or Bea be the same colour group or a different one? For this to work I would need to trade a property. I would love to win with any of you ladies.

I have a busy day tomorrow, voted now so I can be sure I don't miss it.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Rezzie rezzie rezz please.

No.

I feel like I have been talking to you all night in this game and Cars.

MovingPictures07 wrote:
Black Rock wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Black Rock wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Black Rock wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:So Vermont is killing? Who is most likely to be the killer?
I truly don't know.
I don't either... Bah. I was hoping at least one kill would go away, but I guess it still could have, right?
I feel more comfortable with WW gone, he already killed me once. I guess Mafia wouldn't be Mafia without a NK.
Yeah, I guess.
Do you think lynching MM was a mistake? Oh wait, that was directed towards my second sentence. I imagine you shouldn't feel bummed, you are in the best place right now aren't you? Vermont doesn't need you dead.

I was just reviewing day 3, because I couldn't remember why we were so lucky with our lynches this game. I have to tip my hat to LC, he called MM way back then.
No, lynching MM was definitely not a mistake.

Well, what do you think? If we can't nail down Vermont, how do we decide who to lynch?

I think Vermont is hiding in a quieter player.

MovingPictures07 wrote:
Black Rock wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Black Rock wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:So Vermont is killing? Who is most likely to be the killer?
I truly don't know.
I don't either... Bah. I was hoping at least one kill would go away, but I guess it still could have, right?
I feel more comfortable with WW gone, he already killed me once. I guess Mafia wouldn't be Mafia without a NK.
Yeah, I guess.

Do you think lynching MM was a mistake? Oh wait, that was directed towards my second sentence. I imagine you shouldn't feel bummed, you are in the best place right now aren't you? Vermont doesn't need you dead.

I was just reviewing day 3, because I couldn't remember why we were so lucky with our lynches this game. I have to tip my hat to LC, he called MM way back then.

MovingPictures07 wrote:
Black Rock wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:So Vermont is killing? Who is most likely to be the killer?
I truly don't know.
I don't either... Bah. I was hoping at least one kill would go away, but I guess it still could have, right?

I feel more comfortable with WW gone, he already killed me once. I guess Mafia wouldn't be Mafia without a NK.

Our votes are still changeable right?

MovingPictures07 wrote:So Vermont is killing? Who is most likely to be the killer?

I truly don't know.

Water Works - $2
Oriental Avenue - $2
Illinois Avenue - $2
Virginia Avenue - $2
North Carolina Avenue - $2
Pennsylvania Avenue - $2
Kentucky Avenue - $2

Turnip Head wrote:Your first instinct is to not trust me BR. In every game.

I asked that question because I had good reason to believe that Water Works had the Short Line. When it didn't show up I asked if Bass or MP had received it.

Well half the time I'm right not to trust you, the other half I tell myself "Don't worry, he probably had evil intentions."

I so don't trust you. I think you are much more powerful than you are letting on. posts like this make me worry about you all the more.

So I would say MM was the most powerful player in the game, I guess the tide is turning.

TH, why do you think LC is so powerful?

I voted MM. WW is a kill that we can remove from the game.

52 on kentucky

$14 on Kentucky

MovingPictures07 wrote:I went ahead and voted DFaraday. It just makes the most sense to me to get rid of the proper mafia right now, and he's the only one whose role seems 99% certain to me.

That's the way I'm going now as well, for the same reasons.

Turnip Head wrote:Sure, here's my personal priority list:

Long Con (+5 votes, LMS, possibly Beatdown)
DFaraday (nearly airtight case for being RR)
Water Works
Metalmarsh (+5 votes, likely LMS)
Reds (BR?)
Everyone else (LMS), Bass, MP? Idk
Turnip Head (all by himself, broke as fuck)

You're quite the sweet talker. I'm not buying what you're selling. I think you are much more powerful than you are letting on. I also think you may be low on money but you have more tricks up your sleeve. There is no way you mortgaged that sweet property you just picked up that will make you much more powerful.

A little selfish but oh thank goodness, the game is slowed down. I'm going to vote for TH today, I really am convinced he's baddie by now. Every time we go another way we're lynching civvies.

boo wrote:Night 8 End/Day 9 Start: 13 Remaining

Bass has been killed by Water Works. Thanks for playing bass!
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I guess I was wrong about Bass being WW.

So I totally missed the vote, I even said I had to vote that night and then I got into online xmas shopping and completely forgot. RIP guys. This is probably going to be my only post for today. I got another catering job tonight that I'm going to go cook for now.

Turnip Head wrote:So you just quote his case post and offer no analysis. I refuted that case multiple times, Llama never responded to any the counter points I made to it and neither have you. You ignore all my posts refuting the cases against me. You keep regurgitating the same old case that doesn't make sense, and the fact that it exists is apparently enough.

I call bull. You are voting for me because you are being opportunistic. I'm not on your LMS team, so you're hoping I get lynched.

Turnip Head wrote:I'm down to use one of my votes on Long Con, Marshy. Who are you looking at for this lynch?

Opportunistic?

I will be hardly here the next two days. I'm sorry, life is busy.

I will have to vote tonight< I just don't who yet.

MovingPictures07 wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:I think you're a bit late MP.
D'oh! That's what I get for finally wanting to get in on the bidding action and not paying full attention. Lol.

I think that is called a fail?!

MovingPictures07 wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:I'm still suspicious of Lorab, and I still think Daisy could be BWT's partner based on her vote for him. I haven't gone back to look and see if she was around to have sent in the Night 6 kill, though. And we obviously still have to deal with the LMS groups, but I haven't figured out a good way to do that since - as juliets pointed out - those properties will still wind up in somebody's hands even if we lynch them.
Good points. I think there might be something to LoRab. Obviously I have no read of Daisy since she hasn't been around.

That's something to consider... it really means IMO that it's best to nail WW and RRs before LMSers because if any of the four monopolies gets lynched and has a hotel, it will just go to someone else. Right? Didn't really think of that.

WW could be any of the following, right? Any player that's playing low on the radar or is not really playing but may be around on the site often enough to still send in a PM in BWT's absence, yet able to miss one on accident? This is assuming the one NK missed wasn't skipped on purpose:
- Black Rock
- Blooper
- DP
- LoRab

I just looked at the Members list and these are the last days certain players have been on the site (so WW CAN'T be them):
Daisy: Sat Nov 15, 2014 11:16:50 am
Degobunny: Sun Nov 09, 2014 10:01:18 am

However, these two could be an RR or an inactive LMS member.

That'd be a cruel fate for me. Get killed by them and then join in on the team.

I got a time out message MP

I voted for keys, the case on him is solid... plus he wants out and we have no replacements.

bea wrote:
S~V~S wrote:Wow that was fast, lol.

On night 3 I won $100 for being one of 7 people to roll 7; I presume that the other 6 also won prizes; DP was not one of them iirc. But discussing windfalls might be something we want to think about if we start using hotel survival as a litmus test of big $$.
I won a similar prize on the 7's night. I'm not even joking. IDK what it was or what my cash count is at this moment.

It was prolly 1oo. I'm srrsly that out of it this game. I'm such fail its not even funnyl

Boo will update you and tell you anything you have won. It's be good to get your bearings and into the game.

Turnip Head wrote:I'm just pointing out the facts. It looks like Keys was not around for the missed kill, and returned just before last night's kill.

Good point, does anyone else fit that description?

S~V~S wrote:Yeah, knowing I was headed that way, even when they had only houses, was why i decided against the Pricey power yesterday. I guess we know why they sold their houses now.

Linki, MM bought Llamas card, and he says he did not build.

I just realized they bought it during the day before he was lynched.

Also, "MM said" means nothing to me...

Turnip Head wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Long Con wrote:Bye Llama.
I got you once.

I'm reconsidering wanting you lyched Long Con. I don't think you're one of the reds, and they are more important to track down right now.
While I agree the reds are more dangerous, keep in mind that the baby blues have recently purchased more houses, and their hotels are significantly cheaper for them to buy than the reds' hotels. Once those hotels go up, that money is coming out of our pockets.

I'm going to stick with thinking the reds are the most dangerous.

Sorry couldn't resist after that crazy night. So the Reds have hotels and I had a lucky break last night. Unfortunately I moved so far around the board I am back in danger land. The light blues don't seem to be acting in unison, that's something to consider and now the greens are building. Does that mean a green bought Llama's property?

For the ones that landed on Red, I am thinking they have been real quiet and not spending money, so they have passed go and could afford it this time around.

I guess I will put $50 on remove a die. I have been afraid to buy a prize since my first life.

Turnip Head wrote:If we lynch Water Works, the kill will pass to whoever bid the highest on Beatdown, assuming that player votes for Water Works. The railroads do not factor into this at all so you missed my point completely.

Yeah, well I guess I misunderstood what it was. It is quite a dangerous little prize isn't it. It's like we are damned if we do and damned if we don't.

Turnip Head wrote:And now that I think about it, the fact that BR seems so gung ho on lynching an inactive Water Works today might be an indication that she is in the LMS group that won the Beatdown power. There's not much other incentive to go after an inactive Water Works. A civvie BR should be happy that the kill is not currently being used against us. Something to ponder.

What? This does not make sense to me. What does that prize have to do with it? A civvie BR should be happy a power, that in fact can't be used as long as the RR's exist, isn't being used against anyone? A power that is one time kill ? But I should be happy that a baddie is still alive? A baddie that has already once targeted me? A baddie that kills more than once? So trying to find a baddie makes me not civvie but in fact LMS? Not just LMS but an LMS with a kill? I'll just wrap my head around that one.

HannaK wrote:
keys56000000000 wrote:I agree with most of the points on TH. The only thing that gives me pause is I don't think WW would neccessarily want to acquire the EC after his partner died - it would obviously draw a lot of attention to WW, and it's not like it would allow WW to build houses/hotels.

Long Con. If he isn't a Raily, there's a good chance he's completed his set and is no longer a civilian. At any rate, he's got to go at some point.
The fact that you get a lot more money if you own both EC and WW might be a very good reason to risk drawing attention to yourself by acquiring EC tho

Black Rock wrote:I've voted for Bass on suspicion of being WW. I may change my vote later.
Again, is this suspicion based on anything besides the fact that it is a low-poster? This vote seems so random to me, especially in light of all the TH, llama, LC discussion going on

I don't know what to make on them. I don't know who to trust to believe which theories. I am voting Bass on suspicion because a few factors, my attention was put on him because of low posting but my gut is playing a big factor on narrowing him down.

I've voted for Bass on suspicion of being WW. I may change my vote later.

S~V~S wrote:Three different posts came up on my screen; can you quote which one? I presume you mean LCs? Can you quote it rather than linking to it?

It was Llamas I assume.

I did a quick view of post count and who is still on the poll. I'm going to look at the posts of those at the bottom of the list. My gut is looking at Bass for WW right now.

I agree with a non-participatory player being Waterworks. I have been thinking Epig was either a RR or a red. Just because of the money spent. He's obviously not a RR and I could be wrong about the reds. I'll likely vote someone who has been absent. If I'm right (I think I am), then it's too bad such a cool role is not being used. Well that's my meager thoughts jumping all over the place.

Is any one else having troubles posting?

Epignosis wrote:
Black Rock wrote:Epig has done an excellent job on his case with Boogs, I believe it. I also don't trust Epig, he throws around money like someone who has money to burn.
Thank you.

Regarding the repeated accusation of profligate spending, I don't throw around money. I use it. Like I think people vulnerable to be Night killed should do. I am aware of the most I could lose on a board with no hotels in the span of two turns. I miscalculated at one point, but I took action to correct that.

I think it was my first time accusing you.

I just don't understand why you jumped ahead to $500 when it wasn't necessary. I really laughed when you questioned TH for jumping ahead to $10 when he only had to go to $7.

I tried to answer this last night but my internet was giving me a hard time.

I'm going to vote for Boogs now before I go Xmas shopping.

Epignosis wrote:Boogs, what do you think of juliets?

Lorab, what do you think of Black Rock?

She thinks I'm pretty of course.

Pretty quiet night, was it a missed PM or did someone get targeted that can't be killed?

Epig has done an excellent job on his case with Boogs, I believe it. I also don't trust Epig, he throws around money like someone who has money to burn.

boo wrote:
fingersplints wrote:
Long Con wrote:Wow, Splintsy. Wow.
Yes. I can thank my wonderful husband for that. I even outbid myself once there in the craziness of trying to win that

Another good result. BIH Penn. Railroad Bye hedgie

boo, is there any way we can know who else is being replaced still?
I'm thinking maybe Ash. or SD
Here's my thinking on it: I have an event I would like to do for the only resurrects that will be in the game. That means I need dead players who actually have an interest in coming back, which means if we keep bringing in dead players to fill replacements, it just won't happen, and (if we're not already there) we're quickly reaching the point where it just isn't feasible to expect a new player to be able to come in and really catch up and get into the game. So, I am considering for players who want to be replaced now and in the future to just be pseudo-killed off, with their properties going up for auction. My problem there is disadvantaging their potential teammates if it's a public auction, which makes me lean towards wanting to do this, but having those bids be private, and perhaps a bonus to teammates of the people leaving the game to give them a better chance of remaining competitive in the game.

I'm open to discussion on this, but at this point it's the best solution I can come up with.

In the short-term though, my preference would be to not name the people who want to be replaced since in my hosting view, a person isn't out of the game until their actually out of the game, and discussing things like who wants to be replaced changes how people may play things, which is a level of influence I prefer to avoid (although given this scenario I suppose that's kind of a lose/lose situation going on).

At this point I would rather have no rezzes since most of the dead are bad. Day one we lynched a baddie, night one SVS died and has now replaced in (can't be rezzed). Day two we lynched a civvie that wanted out (will likely not come back), night 2 they killed me and I have replaced in and can't be rezzed. Day three we lynched a baddie, night 3 fail kill on a baddie. Day 4 lynched a baddie. So when is this event planned for? Anytime soon we are going to get a baddie back.

I voted Hedgeowl. I don't see how she's not a baddie.

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