The Syndicate

I am missing this game right now. I was just thinking about it again. I don't always enjoy being evil as I am a civvie at heart, but this game took a lot of plotting and manipulating. I truly had such a good time with my team.

Long Con wrote:Yes, the votes went on you early that day ("placeholders" ) to specifically make ending the day early an impossible plan. In our minds, you and MM and Sophie could have come in and talked about it and just decided to vote for me and end it to prevent any shenanigans, so we put that plan together to prevent it. Then it would have been too awkward to switch all our votes to Sophie, especially when we weren't totally outed yet.

I'm still writing my big post-game analysis, I just keep getting distracted.

To add to this, we couldn't know that every one would be online to switch the vote to Sophie in a timely manner.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Bass_the_Clever wrote:

Long Con wrote:Oh, and Bass, sorry we had BR lie to you about FZ and Rabbit being New Rogues in the BTSC... we were worried that you might be Heat Wave because you seemed very sketchy about your Dr Alchemy powers and what you did with them. You said you targeted me, but I hadn't received a random power for it, so it seemed like a lie. Also, you said you got a silence from targeting me and from targeting Timmer, which made no sense to us. That mistrust was also why BR teleported away from you after saying she was going to stay at the City Center.

If you had targeted me on Night 9, it would have failed. It was Day 9 that I moved to Granite Peak to hide behind my hologram. (Unless Wally was in the very top-right of the map).

That was my bad. I used my power on TH,Timmer, and MM. When I targeted Timmer I got to see who someone targeted at night. I Used that power on you but you didnt target anyone. TH and MM both gave me the power to silence someone one. That really confused me.

And I never got a random power, which was another reason I didn't quite trust you. I figured you had picked me, but you still kept trying to get me lynched.

Makes sense that he would go after you after getting a silencing power from you.

Epignosis wrote:

Black Rock wrote:

Epignosis wrote:Am I wrong in thinking that Tar Pit would have been outed the minute he crossed paths with someone?

Maybe if you kept on moving?

I am so sorry we missed a chance at being on the same team again. Bastards killed you too early. Although you would have made my list as a possible super secret role and it would have taken me a long time to check you because of that.

Someone on the same square as me couldn't move.

That would mean that, as soon as my role secret was figured out, the person who couldn't move would know I was a New Rogue.

I knew I was doomed, so I hugged the edge of the map where nothing interesting was going on.

Sounds boring.

Epignosis wrote:Am I wrong in thinking that Tar Pit would have been outed the minute he crossed paths with someone?

Maybe if you kept on moving?

I am so sorry we missed a chance at being on the same team again. Bastards killed you too early. Although you would have made my list as a possible super secret role and it would have taken me a long time to check you because of that.

MovingPictures07 wrote:Anyone who played this game and still hasn't signed up for Dom's game should seriously consider it.

I am so super busy I would be a bad player. I would be lynched because I was busy.

DFaraday wrote:People have surprisingly little to say in postgame for some reason.

I have things to say, I was just at a big event with my food trailer since Thursday and had no time to talk. I barely got my post in before the last lynch.

This game was hard. So very hard. I checked LC night 1 and thanked my lucky stars. I checked so many people before I found Devin and would have found him earlier if the night didn't end early. I didn't see anyone on the map for most the game. We taxi cabbed him in because he was neutral and we were floundering. While we had BTSC LC made me so paranoid that Bass was lying because his story didn't add up. I had gotten a fancy cane from the museum and it stopped map BTSC in an area, teleported me, and maybe caused the crazy lynch? I was the only one that got a list of names and numbers for that lynch. That's why I assume it was the cane. I also got a car that was said to be Bass' car. I did release DF, thanks MM for pointing out he was Plunder. I was so sure it was Soneji but refused to check him. I wanted him lynched to free the kill. When he wasn't Plunder, I made my way to Iron Heights crossing my fingers that I could free him. So much more happened but I am rambling now.

LC and Devin, I am so proud of our team. I had so much fun plotting and scheming with you two. This game became our pillow talk. I mean with LC not with Devin or Devin and LC. Anyways... We totally kicked this games ass considering we lost two teammates so early and our kill was locked up in Iron Heights. With all the civ BTSC and map BTSC I was sure we had lost before we started. Everyone started trusting each other and vouching, I was sure we were screwed.

TH, I deliberately never checked you or SVS because I was paranoid one of you were the super secret role. If you weren't so bloody cozy with Timmer I would have left you alone. After I was cursed I was sure it was you but you were my enemies friend and could not be trusted. Especially after you had a kill. I did go through a period of mourning when I realized I could have taxi cabbed you into BTSC and made you a teammate. I think your lynch helped me survive though.

I was so mad at myself for serving Timmer a drink and causing him to be off the poll. That was a scary day I didn't think we'd survive.

I will think on anything else I want to say, LC is bugging me and breaking my train of thought. He is still talking while I write this.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Black Rock wrote:Also, what happened to it when he was lynched? I was so hoping to get it. Instead I had to figure out how I could get a kill.

I have no clue.

Are we in postgame now? Are we waiting on anything?

Your death? Sophies too I guess. I assume there is a reason for the night. Do you have any extra tricks? I'm all out of tricks.

Bass_the_Clever wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Black Rock wrote:Also, what happened to it when he was lynched? I was so hoping to get it. Instead I had to figure out how I could get a kill.

I have no clue.

Are we in postgame now? Are we waiting on anything?

I ccant wait for postgame because I have some questions.

I have a million questions, there is so much I don't know and didn't understand.

Bass_the_Clever wrote:Dont be like that.

Don't worry, I am forever in your debt.

Also, what happened to it when he was lynched? I was so hoping to get it. Instead I had to figure out how I could get a kill.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Black Rock wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Long Con wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

FZ. wrote:Everyone knows who I am at this point, so whoever is keeping their vote on me is bad. They are just lurking and enjoying themselves. We should have lynched LC last day when we had the chance.

Yes we really should have. We gave them that extra chance they needed.

Tbh, I don't think we stood much of a chance from the beginning of the game, but I felt like we (some of us) gave ourselves the chance to win.

Post-game analysis will prove beyond a shadow of doubt that it was very much the opposite.

Doubt it, but I guess we'll see.

We have been a baddie team without a kill ALL game. We have literally been harmless pussycats. The civvies killed more people. You guys started with BTSC and your kill. We started with nothing. I almost quit the game.

There was still 7 of you, and the fact that you DIDN'T have BTSC was a huge turn of events for your favor. If we lynch one baddie, we can't look through interactions to spot the other ones, and even vote patterns are hard to use, we're just blindly lynching players.

Now, I (we the Detectives) did have the benefit of information, but I had a really hard time actually utilizing my role because I could rarely ever catch MR online. I didn't try my darndest though, but I sent in messages to be posted a few times that never got posted, and I don't know what happened to them.



And I have no idea why TH inherited the nightkill. That seemed like an odd event.

Tell me about it.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Long Con wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

FZ. wrote:Everyone knows who I am at this point, so whoever is keeping their vote on me is bad. They are just lurking and enjoying themselves. We should have lynched LC last day when we had the chance.

Yes we really should have. We gave them that extra chance they needed.

Tbh, I don't think we stood much of a chance from the beginning of the game, but I felt like we (some of us) gave ourselves the chance to win.

Post-game analysis will prove beyond a shadow of doubt that it was very much the opposite.

Doubt it, but I guess we'll see.

We have been a baddie team without a kill ALL game. We have literally been harmless pussycats. The civvies killed more people. You guys started with BTSC and your kill. We started with nothing. I almost quit the game.

Of course he can't win as double down but he can win with us and I'm hoping he honours our agreement.

Bass, I voted for FZ because it's the right thing to do. This game can end right here right now and you can win with the team that you were truly meant to win with. The baddies now outnumber the Civvies, they have finally been brought together. Join us now and win the game Double Down.

FZ. wrote:

Black Rock wrote:

FZ. wrote:Damn, why is Devin off the poll? I want to vote for him! Is this on purpose?

BR, can you talk about why you think Timmer was off the poll last day?

It is map based so I know my dear host has not let me talk about map based things in the past. Why is Devin off the poll? I wonder if the host made a mistake with him and Timmer.

I doubt it's a mistake. I think he's bad.

I think it's between him and DF so I'm likely going to vote DF. Like I said before, I want to give him a chance to explain his rez and such before moving my vote. I very much do not want to see this day end early.

FZ. wrote:Damn, why is Devin off the poll? I want to vote for him! Is this on purpose?

BR, can you talk about why you think Timmer was off the poll last day?

It is map based so I know my dear host has not let me talk about map based things in the past. Why is Devin off the poll? I wonder if the host made a mistake with him and Timmer.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:I can't just remove it, as I'd have to put it on someone else.

I mean, look at that pile of votes on the semi-confirmed civ. The bigger problem lies here.

I don't know why they copied me

Bass_the_Clever wrote:Dont worry I'm still around. lol this game has been crazy. I still trying to wrap my head around some stuff.

Hello Bass, can I help you wrap your head around something?

FZ. wrote:WTF? How many baddies are left in the game that I have so many votes on me? Can anyone give me one reason for voting me?

I have a complete legit reason. I can't speak for the others.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Sorry for the insane posts.

She was probably talking about your vote for me. You should probably remove it, I don't like your intentions.

Also if you have to kill me in another game that's ok, just not day 1.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Black Rock wrote:What happened to Bass this game?

There's been a weird pattern with Bass. He did not speak on Day 8, but did on Day 9. He did not speak again on Day 10, but did again on Day 11. Then he hasn't spoken today.

Black Rock wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Long Con wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:I'm sorry DF. We were forced to take action early after llama was lynched on Day 1.

Why did you choose DF?

I don't really remember. I know that someone suggested BR, and I put my foot down, lol. I think we picked him because he is hardly ever killed early in games, and because he voted for llama.

I missed this and thank you. I might have lost my mind if I died night 1 again.

But of course. I can't guarentee that every time.

Black Rock wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Black Rock wrote:Probably DF, his rez is totally suspish. Plus these boys are totally copying me. I don't get the joke.

You should vote for him too then.

I might just do that, I'm waiting for everybody to check in before I really vote.

But it's suspish. Why wait?

I do not think he's been silenced all those days. That would be insane. I am waiting because I like DF, we go way back and he just got rezzed. I'm letting him explain himself.

What happened to Bass this game?

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Black Rock wrote:Probably DF, his rez is totally suspish. Plus these boys are totally copying me. I don't get the joke.

You should vote for him too then.

I might just do that, I'm waiting for everybody to check in before I really vote.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Long Con wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:I'm sorry DF. We were forced to take action early after llama was lynched on Day 1.

Why did you choose DF?

I don't really remember. I know that someone suggested BR, and I put my foot down, lol. I think we picked him because he is hardly ever killed early in games, and because he voted for llama.

I missed this and thank you. I might have lost my mind if I died night 1 again.

Probably DF, his rez is totally suspish. Plus these boys are totally copying me. I don't get the joke.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Black Rock wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Black Rock wrote:This thread has gone nuts. I feel like I'm missing an inside joke or something.

Are you a New Rogue?

nope

Voted.

So you don't want to vote a new rogue?

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Black Rock wrote:This thread has gone nuts. I feel like I'm missing an inside joke or something.

Are you a New Rogue?

nope

This thread has gone nuts. I feel like I'm missing an inside joke or something.

I have to go to work, I put a vote on FZ for now so the day isn't ended early while I'm gone

I don't know it could be

Holy crap what a night. How the hell did DF get out?

I am so sorry guys, I didn't mean to be gone for so long. Essentially I have embraced the Carnie life with my food trailer and from May to October I should be crazy busy. So anyways I have caught up, I am off the poll. I wasn't expecting that but I do believe I know why. If I knew this would happen I wouldn't have done the thing I did. I certainly didn't want Timmer off the poll. I'm going to follow LC and MM's lead right now so I know I won't miss the vote.

I voted for SVS. I think she is falling apart when she got backed into the corner.

I would like to see a clarification as well. Something isn't adding up with SVS.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Long Con wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Long Con wrote:Llama's vouch makes her a Detective, and Pied Piper seems to be dead.

Let's see if I can prove he is not dead.

The last message we received from the Pied Piper was on Day 4, meaning the earliest he could have been killed was Night 3.

Dharmahelper was killed on Night 3, but timmer says he was an Indy Rogue based on his gravestone, so he probably isn't the one. He also voted for llama on Day 1.

Bullzeye was killed Night 4, though llama suspected him, so it's not him.

Spacedaisy was killed Night 6, but based on her Day 1 vote, I think she is not the one. llama won the lynch 8-7, and her vote was placed elsewhere.

rabbit was killed Night 9 by Wally, so he is surely not Wally's teammate.

All other deaths came before the Piper's last message or came via the lynch, so we know their roles.

I've come across two dead bodies in my travels, and there was nothing to indicate their role on either of them. I would say that DharmaHelper was probably Pied Piper then, and Timmer is not correct about his assumption.

Are we allowed to talk about the dead bodies we've come across? How deeply can we discuss them do you think?

I'm still waiting to hear back from the host about map stuff and what I can say.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Long Con wrote:

FZ. wrote:Reading what you both say, we're back to the three claiming old rogue. The options are Trickster, WW, and Mirror. Who seems least trust worthy to you, and I hope you don't say me

My vote is still on S~V~S pending the conclusion of the debate between her and Timmer. S~V~S has now said she tried to use her power every night so Timmer's supposed viewing of her ... well, I don't think this dance between then is done, so we'll see.

Linki: I would like MR to be around more to ask such questions. I have a few questions for him. Did any of you get a movement result from the last movement? I am still waiting for some info about where I ended up.

No movement for me, and I am still waiting on an answer to a PM as well.

I'm glad I'm not the only one, my last PM was basically "come back to me MR"

Metalmarsh I am having troubles keeping up with you right now. You are putting names and titles on people all over the place, your theories seem to be ever changing.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:I also can't remember the last time I made it to Day 10 alive, without having an unkillable role, or replacing, or being rezzed, etc. This might be a first for me.

Linki: More positive than what?

I read it wrong, it's time for me to go to bed. I thought you said New Rogues, I had to reread it.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Black Rock wrote:So it would seem. Only he can confirm that though. I'm surprised though, given his limited amount of targets.

My brain hurts again. I thought I was starting to figure things out.

Guess I will sleep on it tonight and try again tomorrow.

For the record, I think there are three Old Rogues left alive. I will not yet say who I think they are.

I'm more positive than that.

oh my, those thoughs read awful

So it would seem. Only he can confirm that though. I'm surprised though, given his limited amount of targets.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Black Rock wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Black Rock, who are you looking at today now that rabbit is dead?

Probably FZ. I have no solid read on her this game and she seems to be phoning it in right now.

linki: MM I want you to think about one thing. How was he silenced day 9? It wasn't the silencing role.

Oh, I see. I forgot about that.

Well, it was still the silencing role, just indirectly, right?

Right, but it does punch a hole in your theory. It was more by accident than intentional to try and get him lynched.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Black Rock, who are you looking at today now that rabbit is dead?

Probably FZ. I have no solid read on her this game and she seems to be phoning it in right now.

linki: MM I want you to think about one thing. How was he silenced day 9? It wasn't the silencing role.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Well, RIP rabbit. I was expecting a more active player to be taken.

I don't think it was a bad option.

Hello?

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Mister Rearranger wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Question for the host: If the New Rogue's killer ever dies, does the kill pass on to another teammate, or does the kill die with him/her?

Neither...Both?

The kill is passed down if the killer is killed, but remains with the killer if the killer is imprisoned.

Hopefully this answers your question BR.

Shit, I forgot about that. I see why you are thinking DF then.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Black Rock wrote:Well tbh honest I was hoping the lynched player was Soneji. I was not expecting that lynch result at all. I was certain he was Plunder. I did not expect him to be modkilled because a host would not want to take the numbers away from the baddies. With him being neutral I am very surprised he wasn't modkilled, as it really would not make a difference to the game. That, I guess, was just a host call.

So IS Plunder dead OR is it Rabbit?

I just assumed Plunder was dead. What if DFaraday was Plunder? That would explain the lack of killing and why Grodd's kill was 'inherited'.

Maybe you're right. I haven't been able to put my finger on why Grodd's kill was inherited. That never made sense to me, especially by the Top. Why wouldn't it be passed on by TH then? I feel like I'm missing something. I am assuming that Grodd's kill is inactive now that the Top is dead and it didn't say it was passed on.

Well tbh honest I was hoping the lynched player was Soneji. I was not expecting that lynch result at all. I was certain he was Plunder. I did not expect him to be modkilled because a host would not want to take the numbers away from the baddies. With him being neutral I am very surprised he wasn't modkilled, as it really would not make a difference to the game. That, I guess, was just a host call.

So IS Plunder dead OR is it Rabbit?

Has anyone seen or heard from Rabbit outside the game?

Looks like it will be Rabbit or Soneji.