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This, tbqh. Playing every side, and coming out of it without having fucked over anyone is pretty freaking remarkable, and totally admirable. Aapje is the big winner superstar of this one in my books, for shizzle.thellama73 wrote:I bear no ill will towards Aapje. I salute his playing.
To be perfectly honest, no, not at all.Metalmarsh89 wrote:Did you at all enjoy the role I created?Canucklehead wrote:Lulz, Apple monkey. Fantastic job.
Great game, hosts.
Thanks, team! Sorry I was useless.
Sorry, MM. 
Try typing it into the magical search box at the top of the page. You will thus be doubly edified.Metalmarsh89 wrote:What is a bullsuit?
)Black Rock wrote:oh my, it sounds like my grandfather's ghost is controlling your auto correct. Don't freak out, he was a nice an, just a bit old fashioned. If the phone starts telling you to clean your place then y grandmother's ghost is with him. Her, you can be afraid of.Canucklehead wrote:Lulz... well, I suppose it's obvious to me, for one.... and I would think it would also be obvious to those who've been following along and reading my posts..... but I suppose if I take off my biased glasses, then maybe that second part isn't exactly as transparent as it seems to someone who knows what I know.....Devin the Omniscient wrote:Obviously? Who is it obvious to? Did you misspell Azura to throw us off your scent? Why?
As for the misspelling, that's just my autocorrect (c.f. "Bullsuit" and "guck"). Nothing nefarious there, unless (like me) you feel that my autocorrect is singlehandedly attempting to sanitize my language in order to make me better conform to patriarchal notions of acceptable femininity......
Lulz... well, I suppose it's obvious to me, for one.... and I would think it would also be obvious to those who've been following along and reading my posts..... but I suppose if I take off my biased glasses, then maybe that second part isn't exactly as transparent as it seems to someone who knows what I know.....Devin the Omniscient wrote:Obviously? Who is it obvious to? Did you misspell Azura to throw us off your scent? Why?
Refusing to answer game-breaking questions is lamer than asking game breaking questions? Ok.Devin the Omniscient wrote:Lame. Azura teammate.Canucklehead wrote:I don't really think it's in the spirit of the game/role/power to ask or answer that kind of question.Devin the Omniscient wrote:Why can't you? Are you being controlled, too?Canucklehead wrote:I really wish I was voting for llama today.... but I'm OK with a Devin vote too, I suppose.
I don't really think it's in the spirit of the game/role/power to ask or answer that kind of question.Devin the Omniscient wrote:Why can't you? Are you being controlled, too?Canucklehead wrote:I really wish I was voting for llama today.... but I'm OK with a Devin vote too, I suppose.
Yeah, I really do agree with you about the benefit of gaining info from a lynch, Daisy. If Nutella does flip bad, there's the potential to learn a lot there. If she flips good, I think the opportunities to learn are more limited. When Rey flips, we don't really learn anything.Spacedaisy wrote:I don't think he is making a deal with teams, he is making a deal with individuals.
That was actually my post, and that's not actually the point I was trying to make.Devin the Omniscient wrote:I'm not blind to this possibility. To kind of piggy-back Sorsha's post: How many baddies have we lynched this game? How many baddies do you think RM has killed. Right now it feels like the odds are that he has done more good than we have. That may just be me, though.Turnip Head wrote:You know he's just saying whatever he has to in order to stay alive, right?Devin the Omniscient wrote:I do like working with/listening to people who sound genuine.
If he's the SK then he probably needs everyone dead to win, that's what SK means. Good luck with that
I think I agree with you, Sorsha. There's just no way to hold him to his word, and I'm not at all convinced that the possible benefits of keeping him around outweigh the substantial risks. I am concerned about using a lynch on a non-team baddie (since there are SO MANY lynch switches and manipulations going on in this game that it feels like our main civ tool is pretty corrupt and unreliable), but I think Rey is sure thing, and Nutella is not. I'm happy with keeping my vote on ReySorsha wrote:Right.. If there was a way to get Rey to just kill the baddies sure, cool, let's keep him.
How are we all going to agree on who he should target?
And ubzargan or azura will kill him first chance they get anyway right?
If we can pick someone who's likely a baddie for him to target tonight then ok, I'll switch my vote to Nutella.
I just can't think of a way this would work long term...
Why should it matter if your suspects are voting for Rey?? If the going theory is right, and Rey is an unrecruited RM, everyone needs him dead, including your suspects..... so why should you be so averse to voting with them in this instance? Is this just a contrarians vote? Or are you doing some distancing here, now that a Rey bandwagon is going??aapje wrote:I'm fine with either a nutella or a rey lynch. Some of my top suspects are voting for rey though so I'll put my vote on nutella.
Based on his most recent posts, I actually agree with this. 100%Turnip Head wrote:I think reywaS is the Rogue Mercenary and that we should lynch him ASAP.
Can you talk about your connection to Bubbles? What do you make of the suggestion that her suspicion of you was a distancing tactic?Devin the Omniscient wrote:But MPs "case" against me wasn't a case at all. Llama and I have both said this. He just quoted every one of my posts and commented on them in order to get me to participate more. And calling me a baddie doesn't make me a baddie, ya baddienutella wrote:You have been blendy and based on your behavior you are likely to be Bubbles' teammate. I have suspected you since MP brought that case against you, but unfortunately, contrary to what you'd like to think, you keep fading into the background and I forgot on and off, and you haven't had enough of a presence for the majority of players to seriously consider lynching you. Same problem goes for Rey. You two baddies have been hiding from the spotlight and it's about damn time one of you gets lynched.
Yeah, I think so.... but mostly because I don't have time to read nutella's posts before the deadlineSpacedaisy wrote:So who are you voting then? Still Devin?Canucklehead wrote:What the what?? I thought I was starting a Devin train, but my train got overtaken by a Nutella train. Tres disappoint.
Praise your Turnipy Head. Yes. Thank you.Turnip Head wrote:a tourniquet?Canucklehead wrote:Holy shit I think I'm having a damn stroke. What is the word for the goddamn thing you tie around a limb to stop blood flow? Like, the thing that injection drug users use? Or nurses when they're taking blood? Someone please tell me immediately, my entire dissertation rests on it
Yes, I meant to say that I have been using the fact of my neutrality to disguise what, in any other game, would have looked like sheer laziness. This does not "make it sound like I've been playing neutral, but not actually neutral".... it makes it sound as if I've been using my neutrality opportunistically to not have to actually stick my head too deeply into the game.Scotty wrote:Did you mean to say that your laziness is disguised as neutral? Because that's what you just said. Makes it sound like you've been playing neutral, but not actually neutral.Canucklehead wrote:I'm feeling a bit moorless in this game right now, tbh, which is entirely my fault for not doing enough to role research/keeping track of powers and missed things and all that Apple Monkey type stuff (
But I agree with apples that even the most neutral of neutrals need to essentially play as civvies now, because all the kills floating around are not great for the neutral win con, and helping the Cubs find the killers means we're less likely to be both nk'd and lynched....
But since I've been neutrality grand central for the game thus far, I'm a bit hooped for actually forming opinions on who's bad......damn my laziness-disguised-as-neutrality!
All that to say, I want to look at bea. She just has not been Civ bea this game AT ALL, and I think that the guilty conscience she's feeling and all her apologies stem from feeling like she's letting her teammates down. I haven't done a read-through of her yet, so no idea if I suspect her of one team more than the other yet....but my gut says baddie bea is afoot, and I need to follow my gut (if only as an attempt to get my head actually into the game....)
Also, I would argue that you have looked opinionated all game. I don't know why you seem to think you haven't been.
).....and I honestly don't see that changing.Bwahahahhahahahhha.Turnip Head wrote:I wonder if I was being serious
Yep, and people stuck to their guns, and it turned out BWT was not a baddie. So my experiment failed in more ways than one.Scotty wrote:Yo. What are you thinking today, canuck? Last time we heard from you, you were urging everyone and their mother to put up or shut up and vote BWT.Canucklehead wrote:I don't know about anyone else, but I'd really rather if you quit than keep pouting about how much it's unfun for you to keep playing. I luff you, DH, and I think you know it, and I really wish you *were* having fun with this game...but that's my Real Talk for you today.DharmaHelper wrote:GOD DAMNIT I JUST WANNA DIE ALREADY
I don't know about anyone else, but I'd really rather if you quit than keep pouting about how much it's unfun for you to keep playing. I luff you, DH, and I think you know it, and I really wish you *were* having fun with this game...but that's my Real Talk for you today.DharmaHelper wrote:GOD DAMNIT I JUST WANNA DIE ALREADY
Didn't you recently launch a case against TH for agreeing that his own actions were suspicious when called on them? Isn't that by your own metric something that baddies do??Scotty wrote:No. But now that you've pointed it out, that's suspiciously coincidental for sure.Metalmarsh89 wrote:Are you bad Scotty? As you admit, this is the second JTM player you've had a hand in lynching. You also play on JTM.Scotty wrote:
So that really sucks.
I feel responsible in a way. I was first to vote him today. I think I've been at least mostly responsible for 2 straight mislynches. That looks very bad and I feel like a terrible player. RIP Syn. I'm sure he took hooourrrrs catching up this long game and he lasted shorter than me in my first sexual encounter.
There was definite cause for concern on his lynch. Reading back on some comments, there was such a drop off midday. That's either a good sign or a bad sign that something is up. Plus, the bandwagon yesterday comprised of Keeper of Ravens, SVS, Devin and DH.
I'm not leading any charges tomorrow (should I still be alive). I've obviously had a bad record this game. I'm gonna be a follower for at least tomorrow, which is strangely unlike me. But we can't afford to be wrong again.
That being said, I don't see a better lynch candidate than BWT, should we be able to. But am entertaining any and all options at this point.
I see you tryin' to weed out the players who know you.
I love you, SVSS~V~S wrote:I got all of my BBQing out of the day yesterday with the Socialists. I am sunburnt and a bit hungover,
Are the trapeeze injury and the cat injury related? Like, were you attempting to bring your cat with you on your trapeeze adventures, and the cat let you know how he felt about that situtation?? And thenyour grip slipped, leading to the rip injury?? Regardless, I'm very sorry for your misfortunes......but I won't deny that I'm very pleased about the hilarious mental images the middle two are conjuring up for me.thellama73 wrote:So, funny story guys. I n the past three days I have gotten a) sick b) most of the skin on my hand removed by a cat c) a painful rip injury from trapeze and d) poisoned by Nando's.
I'm starting to think someone is out to get me.
The back and forth between DH and SVS is interesting. I'm not inclined to vote for either of them today. I suspect that baddie have receded into the background to let us tear each other apart. The point about Wilgy having no defenders is one I need to take into consideration, although it does sometimes happen that teams are largely inactive and don't defend each other.The same logic would also imply he's not on a civvie team.
I don't think I agree with the bolded part. I think it's actually more likely for a civ/neutral to be willing to agree with the assessment that their actions *seem* bad, because they are not as hyper-defensive/on alert as baddies are. I actually found TH's responses to you to be reassuring, rather than worrying.Scotty wrote:I don't envy the position of trying to defend against me, since I often careen into people in assessing like the Jamaican Bobsled team.
That being said, your acquiescence to my biased observations is not so good. What would I say to defend myself in your shoes?
I dunno. I'm not in your shoes. I suppose we'll cross those laces if we come to it.
Here's my thinking for today- I realllllly want to kill Unzer because IMO this is the safest position to do so in. I don't think Wilgy is Ubarf. I think he was converted, and on his team. Taking down anyone from any team is going to be difficult, but especially if it's the leader (Azura is no laughing matter either, but we need to work with what we have in an outed UbGYN ally in Bubbles)
I think either TH or Wilgy should be lynched today. Wilgy a safer bet, but I'm currently feeling confident about TH being Leader. There's just something wrong about him.
I'm sorry you feel that way.DharmaHelper wrote:Too many reasons to get into in thread :PCanucklehead wrote:I'm confused by this. Why are you "done playing"?DharmaHelper wrote:I meant it when I said I'm done playing. I'm not going to do anything apart from cast my vote. Whenever I get around to doing even that.
Suffice it to say I'm very tired of being shit on for imaginary reasons. Better to not play.
I'm confused by this. Why are you "done playing"?DharmaHelper wrote:I meant it when I said I'm done playing. I'm not going to do anything apart from cast my vote. Whenever I get around to doing even that.
I kind of just want to stick my fingers in my ears and not pay attention to this situation........ Just seemed suspicious to me that, despite the fact that Timmer has been playing like this openly all game, that you're suddenly on his case about it the minute you come back from the dead.Ricochet wrote:I never said I read, as in ISO, timmer. I started suspecting through the Golden lynch lense first, adding some vibes I got from his activity rhythm. Vibes =/= analysis. To this, I could have indeed missed some of his posts offering his stances.Canucklehead wrote:Timmer has been espousing his "totally neutral until recruited" philosophy the ENTIRE game. Talking about this philosophy takes up a large proportion of his posts. How could you possibly have *actually* read Timmer and missed this?Ricochet wrote:Why go there at all?timmer wrote:I've been trying to get recruited to whoever will take me, but now Ubby and his team seem weak so why go there? As for my "we" it was obviously "the game" . Keep pressing, lol.Ricochet wrote:Did you want to be recruited by Ubz40 before, but don't now that they got hit? You say we've lost a baddie. Who's we? Is it a loss for anyone except the Uzzis?timmer wrote:@Rico, I feel like I've been pretty up front about the way I'm playing this game
Give me your philosophy for this game (sorry if I missed it), since you seem to imply you wouldn't mind being recruited by baddies.
This looks like you jumping opportunistically on someone you think might be an easy lynch, or who might cause a fuss in the thread. Who are you trying to distract from, Rico?
Furthermore, I can respect neutrality, but it's not the same thing as implying willingness to be recruited by baddies imo. How does that make him trustworthy to anyone baddie hunting? How will that help anyone's hunt in assessing timmer in the future?
I don't recall timmer being a wagon at this point, for me to act like he'd be an "easy lynch". I simply suspect him or get signals I don't trust. Where's the fuss I'm trying to create, I just asked if anyone else sees what I'm seeing? What am I distracting from, I mentioned timmer in a 14-point post with mostly pinges and suspicions.
smiley, it seemed like perhaps you were attempting to stoke the coals and get other people to pour the gasoline on your fire. People often respond favorably to "slips" or "catches" (baddies are especially likely to hop on those bandwagons), and the way you were wording you questions to /timmer struck me as being in the "Hey look I've found a slip!" vein. I feel OK about Timmer because I feel like we've been having a lot of the same thoughts this game (ESPECIALLY about game philosophy), and so I feel like we're holding strong together on Team True Neutral.Roxy wrote:canucky - I see what you are trying to say about Rico but I disagree. I am getting good vibes from him aorn.
How do you personally feel about timmer? He is using the same philosophy as TH this game imo.
I know he could be recruited at any time, but I just don't get the impression it's happened yet. I'll admit that my judgement may be clouded by the Brain Blend I'm having with him this game, though.Yeah, I get that (and support that).... but a few lightning reads from people at this point in the game might not be a bad thing.Roxy wrote:Yeah maybe but I am trying to make a point to Bullz with this post.Canucklehead wrote:I think this is a pretty good task for everyone, not just BullzRoxy wrote:Bullzeye wrote:Give me an hour or so (assuming I don't just fall asleep while typing, which is a great danger even right now but I'm sure my considerate neighbours will wake me up with their very appropriate and polite 1,2,3 & 4am yelling and laughing. I am currently running through the people I'm sure I don't suspect, basically making a rainbow list in my head. If I can't think of a reason not to suspect someone they're going on my list of people to look at, which I will begin tomorrow. I shall post this when it is ready.
Why should we give your more than a few mere minutes to come up with suspicions and reactions to people?
Also why do others have to be invested if you are not? Double standard much?
I need you to tell me as quickly as possible how you feel about 4 players.
Timmer has been espousing his "totally neutral until recruited" philosophy the ENTIRE game. Talking about this philosophy takes up a large proportion of his posts. How could you possibly have *actually* read Timmer and missed this?Ricochet wrote:Why go there at all?timmer wrote:I've been trying to get recruited to whoever will take me, but now Ubby and his team seem weak so why go there? As for my "we" it was obviously "the game" . Keep pressing, lol.Ricochet wrote:Did you want to be recruited by Ubz40 before, but don't now that they got hit? You say we've lost a baddie. Who's we? Is it a loss for anyone except the Uzzis?timmer wrote:@Rico, I feel like I've been pretty up front about the way I'm playing this game
Give me your philosophy for this game (sorry if I missed it), since you seem to imply you wouldn't mind being recruited by baddies.
I think this is a pretty good task for everyone, not just BullzRoxy wrote:Bullzeye wrote:Give me an hour or so (assuming I don't just fall asleep while typing, which is a great danger even right now but I'm sure my considerate neighbours will wake me up with their very appropriate and polite 1,2,3 & 4am yelling and laughing. I am currently running through the people I'm sure I don't suspect, basically making a rainbow list in my head. If I can't think of a reason not to suspect someone they're going on my list of people to look at, which I will begin tomorrow. I shall post this when it is ready.
Why should we give your more than a few mere minutes to come up with suspicions and reactions to people?
Also why do others have to be invested if you are not? Double standard much?
I need you to tell me as quickly as possible how you feel about 4 players.
Remember how much you appreciated Daisy's succinct and cogent post on llama? Think you could follow her gorgeous example and do the same for Boom? Or are you in the DH club of snappy one-liners and shark for this game?Turnip Head wrote:I read his posts and I think he's on Team Uzzy.Scotty wrote:Why? You haven't mentioned Boomslang in your posts since Day 5 at least.Turnip Head wrote:Vote registered for Boomslang
You know what else is lame? Condescendingly bitching about how other people choose to play.Bullzeye wrote:What a waste of a perfectly useful night action. Caelia, please don't be that person who posts their own opinions into gossip posts presented as facts. It's just lame.Black Rock wrote:Caelia wrote:Bullzeye, SVS, Lorab and Scotty are enemies of peace.
