The Syndicate

I have no opinion of jack this game and I don’t like that

Oh hey Falcon. How was ur day?

[VOTE: falcon] aubergine

I could live with a falcon flash wagon

Flash wagons just seem like a bad idea from my POV too tbh, but I’m still in the “vote aren’t changeable” mindset of old school syndicate tbh

This is tough. Imma sleep on it. Fingers crossed Ted is just bad here [VOTE: Ted] aubergine

No you don’t.

Recalculating.

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 6:36 pm
Made wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 6:32 pm Sorry I’m at the drive through of Taco Bell. Anything y’all need comments on? At this point I’m cool with a sub optimal Ted chop and handling marmot tomorrow based on that
What handling are you talking about here?

To be clear u scum read Ted right?

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 6:35 pm
Made wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 6:32 pm Sorry I’m at the drive through of Taco Bell. Anything y’all need comments on? At this point I’m cool with a sub optimal Ted chop and handling marmot tomorrow based on that
So... ted's town and Marmot is tomorrow's yeet?

That’s where my head is at, yeah. Thoughts?

Sorry I’m at the drive through of Taco Bell. Anything y’all need comments on? At this point I’m cool with a sub optimal Ted chop and handling marmot tomorrow based on that

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 6:04 pm
Made wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 6:02 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 5:38 pm
Made wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 5:37 pm Yeah, okay so it’s still an airy read, but falcon just reads off this game. Like love my dude, but he’s reading off in a way that No one else is from my POV. It reads very self aware in a way Im not use to seeing from falcon, it’s my best shot tho.
some people are saying Over Confident Ballsy Falcon is what makes him town. is that not your experience with him?
It’s not the over confidence, that’s normal. it’s the intentionality for me. He’s not very shifty this game, which seems safe to me
is town falcon a hedgy player?

I think he’s easily to get misconstrued as hedgy generally. I have no experience with his baddie game

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 5:38 pm
Made wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 5:37 pm Yeah, okay so it’s still an airy read, but falcon just reads off this game. Like love my dude, but he’s reading off in a way that No one else is from my POV. It reads very self aware in a way Im not use to seeing from falcon, it’s my best shot tho.
some people are saying Over Confident Ballsy Falcon is what makes him town. is that not your experience with him?

It’s not the over confidence, that’s normal. it’s the intentionality for me. He’s not very shifty this game, which seems safe to me

Yeah, okay so it’s still an airy read, but falcon just reads off this game. Like love my dude, but he’s reading off in a way that No one else is from my POV. It reads very self aware in a way Im not use to seeing from falcon, it’s my best shot tho.

I’m getting more comfortable with dunking on Ted, but would prefer not to if I can avoid it.

Gonna leave to do irl stuff and come back with like 20 to spare before eod

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 5:27 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:35 pm
Made wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:29 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:28 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:04 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 2:32 pm anyway, go read jpic's iso
His ISO is not very meaty. He's disdainful of mech discussion, which is towny, and wants to get down to some mountainous play... but is "disengaged", like dunya said. His disengagement from the reads and the rules looks all right though. He doesn't make me suspicious for the most part. Kind of dislike the "oh, as if I'm scum asking for Cliffs" line, that's the worst thing I have to say about him.

What's your take on it?
the posts i've quoted where he interacted with people (actually think it was like one person or two at most) are just generally awkward wolfish posts

and afaict he has no villagery posts still

what do you think about the dichotomy of him asking to get cliff'd each time he got back in thread and having no pushes and your thoughts about him being townie for "wanting to get down to some mountainous play" even though it doesn't show?
Hi Ted, if Jpic is town, who is scum from your pov?
hk maybe, but my d1 accuracy is not that great when the entire thread is tunneling me

i'll probably have an updated view of the game by next day phase if i'm kept alive
Wow, that's a hedge if I've ever seen one.
"HK is a wolf probably, but like there's too much pressure b/c everyone is tunneling me" except that like two pages ago you said I was a wolf for pursuing you, so am I tunneled town or am I wolf? I can't figure out what your actual read on me is

Doesn’t this hedging only make sense if you’re wolf? Why would you knowingly hedge town (and I’ll answer your falcon question, gimmie a second to make sure I still believe the read)

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 5:23 pm
Made wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:23 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:22 pm
Made wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:21 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:14 pm Right now I wouldn't yeet Marmot, dunya, Guillo, Kylemii, JPIC off the top of my head. I have to review why the votes on ted are there. I'm voting Made right now because I didn't trust his falcon vote reasoning, and he was trying to give his mana away. Either alignment would know that we already discussed the danger of that if they were reading the thread. Made clearly wasn't reading the thread, and may have been trying to set up Pity The Fool. [VOTE: Made] aubergine

do you really think mafia would be giving their mana out to civilians to kill them when they have more efficient means to do so?

If you do think mafia would, do you think they would tell thread?
Not if they were paying attention.
I read baddie chat when i'm scum. Regardless, giving mana isn't a bad idea if you don't tell people who your giving it to, as well as don't telegraph who you're giving it to

(which is why i'm planning to keep my town reads close to chest this game)
I'm struggling to wrap my head around why I'd want to give out mana currently anyways?

It’s the capitalist indoctrination comrade. Share the wealth so that we may all flourish

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 5:18 pm
Made wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:53 pm
Made wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:12 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:21 pm
Made wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:31 am *ahem* I feel like Ted is town. It's weird to argue that you should give mana to POE. That's really hard argument to make. It might be right (It's what I'm doing with my mana), but like making that argument as scum so clearly benefits scum who can't escape PoE.
@Made can you explain this thing again?
sure, basically, Ted is scummy in a way a wolf wouldn't choose to be scummy, even if open wolfing. Like open wolfing is like lolcatting and like "yeah, me and todd are teammates" stuff. I think he's town because I don't see a scum Ted being this carelessly scummy and seemingly unaware.

Where is everyone on falcon. I still think he might be a hit
Thought i was going crazy for a second when i couldn't find this either. here ya go @tedxtr. Before I went to look for it again tho I said it again in different words:

I think that giving mana to POE (carefully) is optimal in dodging fool, but it's not the kind of argument I would of made in a billion years cuz i'm not trying to die d1. Given, I'm town, but i'd assume scum would be even more careful not to die D1
Huh?

"Town would never play like that cuz its not towny, and wolves wouldn't play like that cuz its not towny"

it's suboptimal in a way mafia would avoid, and town wouldnt over think

lol, why did essoa claim sock?

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:58 pm everyone who suspects me is mafia being opportunistic, and everyone who trusts me is mafia working with tmi,

I kinda agree tbh

players who percieve kyle are sus

Made wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:12 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:21 pm
Made wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:31 am *ahem* I feel like Ted is town. It's weird to argue that you should give mana to POE. That's really hard argument to make. It might be right (It's what I'm doing with my mana), but like making that argument as scum so clearly benefits scum who can't escape PoE.
@Made can you explain this thing again?
sure, basically, Ted is scummy in a way a wolf wouldn't choose to be scummy, even if open wolfing. Like open wolfing is like lolcatting and like "yeah, me and todd are teammates" stuff. I think he's town because I don't see a scum Ted being this carelessly scummy and seemingly unaware.

Where is everyone on falcon. I still think he might be a hit

Thought i was going crazy for a second when i couldn't find this either. here ya go @tedxtr. Before I went to look for it again tho I said it again in different words:

I think that giving mana to POE (carefully) is optimal in dodging fool, but it's not the kind of argument I would of made in a billion years cuz i'm not trying to die d1. Given, I'm town, but i'd assume scum would be even more careful not to die D1

Moving ted from locked town to lean town. I see ways he could be bad, but I still doubt it.

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:34 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:33 pm dunya, wanna be my mason partner?
i mean, we're in it together till death do us apart so....yes???????

Checked your iso and found this....thoughts on marmot potentially trying to pocket you?

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:33 pm
Made wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:26 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:22 pm
Made wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:18 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:13 pm Finally caught up. I have determined that Made is scum

[VOTE: Made] aubergine

Kyle also incredibly wolfy for having over 100 posts and I don't remember a single one.

Why are we voting Ted?

the really annoying thing for me is gth you're town (unless ted is scum, which i don't think is the case.)
let's play a game. If i'm town, who's bad
If you're town, then I'd suspect Marmot.

The only read I agree with him on is you. I town read falcon as mentioned and I also think Urist has been slightly townie as well, so that would be an instant
huh, yeah dope, ur town. Marmot is playing how i'd expect a bad player to play this early. He's developing a towncore that includes himself and probably at least a teammate.
What are you thoughts on Kyle and Epi? I'm not well read enough there, but GTH, there's a scum between the two
weird you mention kyle and epi and not me? i am his mason partner.

Kyle's, not epi's right?

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:16 pm Sorry for the wallpost, but I'm running out of posts to use.

Also [VOTE: Made] aubergine, I'm coming back to this one.

don't forget the limit is waved an hour from eod

tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:28 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:04 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 2:32 pm anyway, go read jpic's iso
His ISO is not very meaty. He's disdainful of mech discussion, which is towny, and wants to get down to some mountainous play... but is "disengaged", like dunya said. His disengagement from the reads and the rules looks all right though. He doesn't make me suspicious for the most part. Kind of dislike the "oh, as if I'm scum asking for Cliffs" line, that's the worst thing I have to say about him.

What's your take on it?
the posts i've quoted where he interacted with people (actually think it was like one person or two at most) are just generally awkward wolfish posts

and afaict he has no villagery posts still

what do you think about the dichotomy of him asking to get cliff'd each time he got back in thread and having no pushes and your thoughts about him being townie for "wanting to get down to some mountainous play" even though it doesn't show?

Hi Ted, if Jpic is town, who is scum from your pov?

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:22 pm
Made wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:18 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:13 pm Finally caught up. I have determined that Made is scum

[VOTE: Made] aubergine

Kyle also incredibly wolfy for having over 100 posts and I don't remember a single one.

Why are we voting Ted?

the really annoying thing for me is gth you're town (unless ted is scum, which i don't think is the case.)
let's play a game. If i'm town, who's bad
If you're town, then I'd suspect Marmot.

The only read I agree with him on is you. I town read falcon as mentioned and I also think Urist has been slightly townie as well, so that would be an instant

huh, yeah dope, ur town. Marmot is playing how i'd expect a bad player to play this early. He's developing a towncore that includes himself and probably at least a teammate.
What are you thoughts on Kyle and Epi? I'm not well read enough there, but GTH, there's a scum between the two

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:22 pm
Made wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:21 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:14 pm Right now I wouldn't yeet Marmot, dunya, Guillo, Kylemii, JPIC off the top of my head. I have to review why the votes on ted are there. I'm voting Made right now because I didn't trust his falcon vote reasoning, and he was trying to give his mana away. Either alignment would know that we already discussed the danger of that if they were reading the thread. Made clearly wasn't reading the thread, and may have been trying to set up Pity The Fool. [VOTE: Made] aubergine

do you really think mafia would be giving their mana out to civilians to kill them when they have more efficient means to do so?

If you do think mafia would, do you think they would tell thread?
Not if they were paying attention.

I read baddie chat when i'm scum. Regardless, giving mana isn't a bad idea if you don't tell people who your giving it to, as well as don't telegraph who you're giving it to

(which is why i'm planning to keep my town reads close to chest this game)

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:14 pm Right now I wouldn't yeet Marmot, dunya, Guillo, Kylemii, JPIC off the top of my head. I have to review why the votes on ted are there. I'm voting Made right now because I didn't trust his falcon vote reasoning, and he was trying to give his mana away. Either alignment would know that we already discussed the danger of that if they were reading the thread. Made clearly wasn't reading the thread, and may have been trying to set up Pity The Fool. [VOTE: Made] aubergine

do you really think mafia would be giving their mana out to civilians to kill them when they have more efficient means to do so?

If you do think mafia would, do you think they would tell thread?

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:13 pm Finally caught up. I have determined that Made is scum

[VOTE: Made] aubergine

Kyle also incredibly wolfy for having over 100 posts and I don't remember a single one.

Why are we voting Ted?

the really annoying thing for me is gth you're town (unless ted is scum, which i don't think is the case.)
let's play a game. If i'm town, who's bad

tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:19 pm on a re-read, i may have gotten overexcited at someone nailing me correctly and thus wanting to ez town read made, since i don't really get what he's saying in the first line lol

dw, if i was trying to pocket you, you wouldn't know it

tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:21 pm
Made wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:31 am *ahem* I feel like Ted is town. It's weird to argue that you should give mana to POE. That's really hard argument to make. It might be right (It's what I'm doing with my mana), but like making that argument as scum so clearly benefits scum who can't escape PoE.
@Made can you explain this thing again?

sure, basically, Ted is scummy in a way a wolf wouldn't choose to be scummy, even if open wolfing. Like open wolfing is like lolcatting and like "yeah, me and todd are teammates" stuff. I think he's town because I don't see a scum Ted being this carelessly scummy and seemingly unaware.

Where is everyone on falcon. I still think he might be a hit

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tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 2:13 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 10:29 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 3:15 am so punish the fool seems like a pretty punishing ability for our team.

the best we can probably do is to make scum play whack-a-mole. we all need mana for something...

fix suggestion : everyone should ask for the mana they need (and that's it - just ask for the mana, don't say what it's for or that it needs priority, etc etc), irregardless of how good or bad their ability is.

loop holes : the mafia will target strong people this way, so we're a bit forced to spread the cards to someone they don't need dead. (PoEish targets that can reasonably be town)

my instinct is to say that 3 mana is a bit tough to gather? so let's not try to get caught up in an ability that takes quite a bit to use anyway.

thoughts / concerns about this?
I don't think that 3 mana is tough to gather. I can produce that much mana in a night. I don't know how many lands you have, but I have three. If that's standard, then this is probably somewhere near equivalent to a wolf giving up their personal ability in order to use Punish The Fool.
that was more my point, i assume they won’t use it every time.

unless their roles are pretty terrible

ok friends, i'm going to contribute a hot take so me and Marmot can be friends and i can supatown and stuff.

*ahem* I feel like Ted is town. It's weird to argue that you should give mana to POE. That's really hard argument to make. It might be right (It's what I'm doing with my mana), but like making that argument as scum so clearly benefits scum who can't escape PoE.

Ted is also openly talking about stuff that seems really scummy at face value. After the above quote he then began to argue that because fool is a card in this game that there are town players who likely don't have enough mana to do their own shit...which makes sense, but it's is also the kinda thing that you probably shouldn't talk about as town, so I'd personally expect scum would think twice about talking about it too, because it looks scum af. What i'm getting at is Ted is too scummy too early in ways that aren't necessary. Why risk the heat this early?? I think it's unlikely to be a hit.

ok, thank you for your time. please adjust your reads accordingly.

and don't forget, towncores aren't formed, they're Made™

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:38 am New players, same colours

Marmot
dunya
Epignosis
Guillo
Kyle
Jack
DrWilgy
ted
Enrique
hollowkat
JPIC
Long Con
MacDougall
Nicol Bolas
Urist
falcon
Made

I guess I'll bite too. Am I really your top scum read?

@tedxtr what's a children's television show that terrified you as a child?

Love that for you regardless <3

Yeah, everyone has like 4 hours to tap land and shit

oh shit, wait, day action deadline is coming up aint it

...can I get an i'm with stupid shirt too?

oh, tldr, what's going on with ted?

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 9:32 pm
Made wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 9:29 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 9:01 pm People I won't be voting for today:

dunya
Guillotine
Marmot
Kylemii
add me to the list and you got a full basketball squad
Guess who else made the team!!!

Spoiler: show
Tutuu

sometimes you have to cut your losses and fight god
[VOTE: Tutuu] aubergine

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 9:01 pm People I won't be voting for today:

dunya
Guillotine
Marmot
Kylemii

add me to the list and you got a full basketball squad

coalition building.

active game aside, Spiderverse I think is where most of my meta comes from on. I could get behind a townlead Falcon tho. top 3 bottom 3?

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 5:05 pm
Made wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 5:03 pm Falcon, when was your last scum game? have we ever played where I was town and you were scum?
I have never been scum on Syndicate.

huh, okay, yeah, cuz i feel like i'm reading a different player. You're still goofy as per usual, but you seem more goal oriented than I've seen you in the past. Would you agree with that take?

Falcon, when was your last scum game? have we ever played where I was town and you were scum?

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:24 pm I see Made dropped a vote on me for no reason given, then removed said vote for also no reasons given.

@Made why do this?

PS MtG > Yu-Go-Blow

hi, reading through your iso, sorry if removing my vote was stressed you out, you can have it back <3

[VOTE: Falcon] aubergine

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 4:45 pm
Made wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 3:51 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 3:50 pm
Made wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 3:46 pm I am willing to trade my vote for 3 mana. would any like to take me up on that?
What if I asked you to vote yourself?
I mean mana is mana
exactly how much of this thread have you read honestly?

enough to know that openly asking for mana is an objectively bad idea if that's what you're getting at

Blue Orange Green Green Yellow

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 3:50 pm
Made wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 3:46 pm I am willing to trade my vote for 3 mana. would any like to take me up on that?
What if I asked you to vote yourself?

I mean mana is mana

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