The Syndicate

leetic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 9:59 pm
Made wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 9:58 pm Admittedly, shaving me is wild af, but do you town
What do you even mean here

last minute voting not me is crazy. anyways glglgl

Saving? words are hard

Admittedly, shaving me is wild af, but do you town

[VOTE: Rondo] aubergine
sure lol

I mean okay, and hear me out:
[VOTE: No chop] aubergine

leetic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 9:46 pm I would be really disappointed if I put in 1,000 posts of effort and it added to nothing. Come on, town! We can do this!

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leetic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 9:31 pm
Made wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 9:30 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 9:29 pm Well, a half an hour left and things still seem a little static. No, I am not just making filler posts to ensure I hit 1,000 posts in a single game
I swear if this is a slip/soft scum claim
Why would it be?

Also my phone trying to autocorrect "would" to "wouldn't", maybe my phone is the real wolf here

ill lyk if the game ends in 30

[VOTE: Gira] aubergine

leetic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 9:29 pm Well, a half an hour left and things still seem a little static. No, I am not just making filler posts to ensure I hit 1,000 posts in a single game

I swear if this is a slip/soft scum claim

leetic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 9:24 pm Made make a mechanical post that is caught up with the thread challenge: impossible

#5146

wait.. wild thought:
Mac dies and then Nutella dies
Limecoke dies, and then I die

What if Scum's win condition involves removing both half of players from play, and they know who all the pairs are?

leetic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 9:13 pm Still, took Made quite a while to get there

#5146

leetic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 9:10 pm
Made wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 9:09 pm I really hope I don't hit 6k this phase.
[VOTE: rondo] aubergine
Self-pres?

yeah, I don't think me dying clears the game enough to feel good about dying

I really hope I don't hit 6k this phase.
[VOTE: rondo] aubergine

You might be the missing link then @leetic
If Made town then what's the team--strictly hypothetically or w/e, I'm just looking for perspective.

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 9:03 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 9:02 pm the other world it’d be “difficult” in would be gira / abi but more difficult in the sense that they’re both AtEing in a way that intimidates you if you vote them
haven't felt this for abi but have for gira.

same

@leetic i'm super town if it's rondo right?

actually wait. do we ever just want to flip rondo/me so we don't wonder tomorrow? like if I don't have any other viable teammates, and rondo doesn't have any other viable teammates, flipping one of us at the very least sets us up for a more educated chop tomorrow

leetic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 8:51 pm
Made wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 8:49 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 8:48 pm
Made wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 8:47 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 8:38 pm
Made wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 8:38 pm @tedxtr are you ever voting gira? apologies if Im forgotting something youve said recently re: this, just trying to do some vote counting.
Why are you still voting tedxtr?
reading me as lol town isnt hard, dont think it’s a particularly brave stance— at least enough to change my vote right now…
Well, you seem to have many of the same thoughts as him, so I'm surprised that doesn't make you at least think twice.
it does[VOTE: Princess Abbi] aubergine
That's a lot of changing course for just a little nudging.

channeling my inner syn

hmm, okay so do we just firedrill Abigail or wut?

leetic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 8:48 pm
Made wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 8:47 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 8:38 pm
Made wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 8:38 pm @tedxtr are you ever voting gira? apologies if Im forgotting something youve said recently re: this, just trying to do some vote counting.
Why are you still voting tedxtr?
reading me as lol town isnt hard, dont think it’s a particularly brave stance— at least enough to change my vote right now…
Well, you seem to have many of the same thoughts as him, so I'm surprised that doesn't make you at least think twice.

it does[VOTE: Princess Abbi] aubergine

leetic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 8:38 pm
Made wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 8:38 pm @tedxtr are you ever voting gira? apologies if Im forgotting something youve said recently re: this, just trying to do some vote counting.
Why are you still voting tedxtr?

reading me as lol town isnt hard, dont think it’s a particularly brave stance— at least enough to change my vote right now…

@tedxtr are you ever voting gira? apologies if Im forgotting something youve said recently re: this, just trying to do some vote counting.

leetic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 8:25 pm
Made wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 8:23 pm damn abigail/leetic even kinda scans on a personality read. assuming player archetypes (I do not know leetic and abigail v well)If leetic is to break his meta to high post, it’s with a high post teammate which seems to fit the bill of an abigail…
Don't tell me you're actually considering this.

I have to at least think about it, I dont know my vote is moving, but Im try to speed run the tinfoil till it seems silly, which it hasnt yet

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 8:24 pm made, are you sure that it’s “you have an additional vote”

and not “you have 1 more vote placed on you”

fuck

leetic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 8:22 pm
Made wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 8:21 pm
Made wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 9:11 pm
pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 6:46 pm
Spoiler: show
pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 6:14 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 7:30 pm
Spoiler: show
2 hours 30 to go d2.PNG

recreated as text and copying leetic's PR color idea

RonDubz (1) - TSP
Dizzy (4) - Ranmilia, WWA, pyxxy, leetic
pyxxy (5) - Rondo, ted, Abi, bereft, gira

Rondo, TSP, WWA all with (1) from the shadow votes

--------------

from here:
WWA moves to TSP (1+1) at EOD-2h23m
Rondo moves to TSP (2+1) at EOD-2h15m
Dizzy votes Ran (1) at EOD-2h03m
Dizzy votes idk at EOD-2h02m
Gira moves to TSP (3+1) at EOD-1h59m

VC refresh 1:
RonDubz (1) - TSP
Dizzy (3) - Ranmilia, pyxxy, leetic
TSP (3+1) - WWA, Rondo, Gira
pyxxy (3) - ted, Abi, bereft

---
Rondo moves to Abi (1) at EOD-1h42m
Bereft moves to TSP (3+1) at EOD-1h13m
Rondo moves to Bereft (1) at EOD-1h11m
Rondo moves to ted (1) at EOD-0h59m
Ranmilia moves to TSP (4+1) at EOD-0h57m
Rondo moves to pyxxy (3) at EOD-0h56m

VC refresh 2:
RonDubz (1) - TSP
Dizzy (2) - pyxxy, leetic
TSP (4+1) - WWA, Gira, Bereft, Ranmilia
pyxxy (3) - ted, Abi, Rondo

---
Rondo moves to leetic (1) at EOD-0h31m
Ranmilia moves to Dizzy (3) at EOD-0h20m
Rondo moves to Dizzy (4) at EOD-0h07m

VC refresh 3:
RonDubz (1) - TSP
Dizzy (4) - pyxxy, leetic, Ranmilia, Rondo
TSP (3+1) - WWA, Gira, Bereft
pyxxy (2) - ted, Abi

---
Rondo moves to leetic (1) at EOD-0h05m
Rondo moves to TSP (4+1) at EOD-0h01m
Ranmilia moves to TSP (5+1) at EOD-0h00m
leetic moves to TSP (6+1) at EOD-0h00m and one extra minute late

final VC as we all know:
RonDubz (1) - TSP
Dizzy (1) - pyxxy
TSP (6+1) - WWA, Gira, Bereft, Rondo, Ranmilia, leetic
pyxxy (2) - ted, Abi

reposting so i can refer back to this easily via mobile

ebwop, pyxxy didnt say this, I did.
let’s speedrun the tinfoil tho…
if Leetic and abigail then leetic/abigail/tsp….
then abi voted town d1, and leetic didnt vote till tue literal last second… that’s not amazing…

@leetic why such the late bote. were you not feeling any of the wagons or something?
Which vote are you even talking about? The only phase where I didn't vote someone early was this one

yes, the day we killed scum. d1 wasnt close, d2 was close, d3 wasnt close (from my pov, it was town/town).

regardless what was the reason you didnt vote sooner d2?

damn abigail/leetic even kinda scans on a personality read. assuming player archetypes (I do not know leetic and abigail v well)If leetic is to break his meta to high post, it’s with a high post teammate which seems to fit the bill of an abigail…

Made wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 9:11 pm
pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 6:46 pm
Spoiler: show
pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 6:14 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 7:30 pm
Spoiler: show
2 hours 30 to go d2.PNG

recreated as text and copying leetic's PR color idea

RonDubz (1) - TSP
Dizzy (4) - Ranmilia, WWA, pyxxy, leetic
pyxxy (5) - Rondo, ted, Abi, bereft, gira

Rondo, TSP, WWA all with (1) from the shadow votes

--------------

from here:
WWA moves to TSP (1+1) at EOD-2h23m
Rondo moves to TSP (2+1) at EOD-2h15m
Dizzy votes Ran (1) at EOD-2h03m
Dizzy votes idk at EOD-2h02m
Gira moves to TSP (3+1) at EOD-1h59m

VC refresh 1:
RonDubz (1) - TSP
Dizzy (3) - Ranmilia, pyxxy, leetic
TSP (3+1) - WWA, Rondo, Gira
pyxxy (3) - ted, Abi, bereft

---
Rondo moves to Abi (1) at EOD-1h42m
Bereft moves to TSP (3+1) at EOD-1h13m
Rondo moves to Bereft (1) at EOD-1h11m
Rondo moves to ted (1) at EOD-0h59m
Ranmilia moves to TSP (4+1) at EOD-0h57m
Rondo moves to pyxxy (3) at EOD-0h56m

VC refresh 2:
RonDubz (1) - TSP
Dizzy (2) - pyxxy, leetic
TSP (4+1) - WWA, Gira, Bereft, Ranmilia
pyxxy (3) - ted, Abi, Rondo

---
Rondo moves to leetic (1) at EOD-0h31m
Ranmilia moves to Dizzy (3) at EOD-0h20m
Rondo moves to Dizzy (4) at EOD-0h07m

VC refresh 3:
RonDubz (1) - TSP
Dizzy (4) - pyxxy, leetic, Ranmilia, Rondo
TSP (3+1) - WWA, Gira, Bereft
pyxxy (2) - ted, Abi

---
Rondo moves to leetic (1) at EOD-0h05m
Rondo moves to TSP (4+1) at EOD-0h01m
Ranmilia moves to TSP (5+1) at EOD-0h00m
leetic moves to TSP (6+1) at EOD-0h00m and one extra minute late

final VC as we all know:
RonDubz (1) - TSP
Dizzy (1) - pyxxy
TSP (6+1) - WWA, Gira, Bereft, Rondo, Ranmilia, leetic
pyxxy (2) - ted, Abi

reposting so i can refer back to this easily via mobile

ebwop, pyxxy didnt say this, I did.

let’s speedrun the tinfoil tho…
if Leetic and abigail then leetic/abigail/tsp….
then abi voted town d1, and leetic didnt vote till tue literal last second… that’s not amazing…

@leetic why such the late bote. were you not feeling any of the wagons or something?

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 8:14 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 8:12 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 8:11 pm why are we clearing abigail again?
It's mainly that she doesn't look partnered with any of the main suspects. And we also know that she didn't submit the kill if she is a wolf.
at least that’s what you’re saying

nah thats my thinking as well. I not playing super methodically atm, as may be apparent, but from where my head is at atm, the partnership that makes the most sense is abigail and leetic and if leetic is scum, they can just have the win tbh

@leetic do you know for sure that your check confirms nightkills, and not just other night actions?

brb reading the sign up thread

leetic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 8:04 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 8:03 pm is he not claiming the +1 vote mechanic that has been announced over and over?
He says his vote is "worth 2", but granted at this point I'm not sure that Made is even playing the same game as us.

e4 e5
Nf2

yeah it’s just a +1 like everyone else

leetic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 8:00 pm
Made wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:59 pm @leetic can you rephrase? why is gira/made being w/t relevant to gira/ted being w/w?
Why was Gira so unwilling to switch to Dizzy if the team was TSP/Gira/ted?

well if you think the Dizzy slot is going to flip soon, and you dont want to get your hands dirty??

regardless i see your point now, thank you

leetic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:59 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:58 pm
Made wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:56 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:55 pm
Made wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:47 pm gira is voting ted now…I mean my vote is worth 2, so sure.
[VOTE: ted] aubergine
Is that a hard claim?
yessir
Didn't you say you were just vanilla earlier?
Also, if true does your role affect parity?

I am vanilla.

@leetic can you rephrase? why is gira/made being w/t relevant to gira/ted being w/w?

leetic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:55 pm
Made wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:47 pm gira is voting ted now…I mean my vote is worth 2, so sure.
[VOTE: ted] aubergine
Is that a hard claim?

yessir

Made wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:52 pm oh dear the tinfoil is coming…do we ever need to worry about gira/rondo?

wait were good, rondo is rarely scum here…i hope…

oh dear the tinfoil is coming…do we ever need to worry about gira/rondo?

and because i dont want to never be able to win as scum again, I will say that while not comfortably, I think im still in my scum range—especially after losing so bad last time

Gira wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:46 pm
Made wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:41 pm
Gira wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:32 pm
Made wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:27 pm
Gira wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:21 pm in general my expectation is mafia in endgamee rarely hard align, their goal is to split the room, sometimes around a false dichotomy
sorry to spray and pray a bit, but want this in writing just incase Im right: That’s why i think i might be right about a ted/gira. I don’t like the noncommittal nature of gira’s read on me/rondo either. It’s giving “okay so after we chop made, we chop rondo or vice versa”
i am not arguing that?? wtf

yes' i'm going back and forth because i'm uncertain but i have actively been TRYING to investgate people outside you and rondo where half the game seems hung up on you today

my difficulty with you has been that a lot of the time it's been very hard to figure out what your actual thoughts/analysis are on the game, if you could make that clearer i think that'd be helpful.
in a tweet:
it’d be weird if there were one scum or three left so assume two.
combo that make sense to me:
-Abigail x leetic (which if it is them well done, amazing play)
- ted/gira

Im having trouble imaginging rondo with anyone else alive, and that, plus his tsp vote, plus his post today makes him look green af

so it really has to be you and Ted at this point. I could ofc be wrong, but that is my thoughts/anaylsis of the thread.

at the moment im reading for connections between ted and gira to see if there anything there clearing.

also ted, I played scum with you recentlyish right?
i think the way i've been interacting with ted is like obviously never scum/scum but if you want to kill one of us then go for it i'll help you out

@leetic, do you agree with this take? ted/gira never being w/w?

Gira wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:46 pm
Made wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:41 pm
Gira wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:32 pm
Made wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:27 pm
Gira wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:21 pm in general my expectation is mafia in endgamee rarely hard align, their goal is to split the room, sometimes around a false dichotomy
sorry to spray and pray a bit, but want this in writing just incase Im right: That’s why i think i might be right about a ted/gira. I don’t like the noncommittal nature of gira’s read on me/rondo either. It’s giving “okay so after we chop made, we chop rondo or vice versa”
i am not arguing that?? wtf

yes' i'm going back and forth because i'm uncertain but i have actively been TRYING to investgate people outside you and rondo where half the game seems hung up on you today

my difficulty with you has been that a lot of the time it's been very hard to figure out what your actual thoughts/analysis are on the game, if you could make that clearer i think that'd be helpful.
in a tweet:
it’d be weird if there were one scum or three left so assume two.
combo that make sense to me:
-Abigail x leetic (which if it is them well done, amazing play)
- ted/gira

Im having trouble imaginging rondo with anyone else alive, and that, plus his tsp vote, plus his post today makes him look green af

so it really has to be you and Ted at this point. I could ofc be wrong, but that is my thoughts/anaylsis of the thread.

at the moment im reading for connections between ted and gira to see if there anything there clearing.

also ted, I played scum with you recentlyish right?
i think the way i've been interacting with ted is like obviously never scum/scum but if you want to kill one of us then go for it i'll help you out

@leetic, do you agree with this take? ted/gira never being w/w?

gira is voting ted now…I mean my vote is worth 2, so sure.
[VOTE: ted] aubergine

the reason I asked @tedxtr if I was scum with him recently was because I recall shitting the bed as scum and I feel like that was with him… id imagine he specifically would find my play here incompatible with my scum game, but that doesn’t have to be the case.

gira voting ted is very mind f$&ky i must say, but maybe delulu is the solulu

Gira wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:37 pm
Made wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:34 pm
Gira wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 8:50 pm
Gira wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 8:49 pm i guess it's possible ted has figured out the exact right buttons to push to get me to think he's town but he'd be playing a really really good game if so
n other words i think it's incredibly unlikely and would only re-evaluate if the game goes long and he's still alive. to be clear.
@Gira do you still feel this way? i control-f ted in your iso, and this the most direct read I could find.
i think half the time i've refereed to him as insomnia

but this was my most recent post on him:

Gira wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:09 pm [VOTE: Made] aubergine

i read the last two pages in reverse, it's not rondo

i had a flash of uncertainty earlier on ted today but i went to read back on tsp's posts and i still think he is just town from that. i can re-check ted's iso but i highly doubt he is mafia at this point in time

so is it fair to summarize your view of ted to be green, but trending downwards?

Gira wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:32 pm
Made wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:27 pm
Gira wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:21 pm in general my expectation is mafia in endgamee rarely hard align, their goal is to split the room, sometimes around a false dichotomy
sorry to spray and pray a bit, but want this in writing just incase Im right: That’s why i think i might be right about a ted/gira. I don’t like the noncommittal nature of gira’s read on me/rondo either. It’s giving “okay so after we chop made, we chop rondo or vice versa”
i am not arguing that?? wtf

yes' i'm going back and forth because i'm uncertain but i have actively been TRYING to investgate people outside you and rondo where half the game seems hung up on you today

my difficulty with you has been that a lot of the time it's been very hard to figure out what your actual thoughts/analysis are on the game, if you could make that clearer i think that'd be helpful.

in a tweet:
it’d be weird if there were one scum or three left so assume two.
combo that make sense to me:
-Abigail x leetic (which if it is them well done, amazing play)
- ted/gira

Im having trouble imaginging rondo with anyone else alive, and that, plus his tsp vote, plus his post today makes him look green af

so it really has to be you and Ted at this point. I could ofc be wrong, but that is my thoughts/anaylsis of the thread.

at the moment im reading for connections between ted and gira to see if there anything there clearing.

also ted, I played scum with you recentlyish right?

Gira wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 8:50 pm
Gira wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 8:49 pm i guess it's possible ted has figured out the exact right buttons to push to get me to think he's town but he'd be playing a really really good game if so
n other words i think it's incredibly unlikely and would only re-evaluate if the game goes long and he's still alive. to be clear.

@Gira do you still feel this way? i control-f ted in your iso, and this the most direct read I could find.

Gira wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:21 pm in general my expectation is mafia in endgamee rarely hard align, their goal is to split the room, sometimes around a false dichotomy

sorry to spray and pray a bit, but want this in writing just incase Im right: That’s why i think i might be right about a ted/gira. I don’t like the noncommittal nature of gira’s read on me/rondo either. It’s giving “okay so after we chop made, we chop rondo or vice versa”

I also learned a little late that I got an extra vote today. I think based on today, Rondo looks really town. lemme see what additional dirt I can dig on gira. questions are welcome in the interim

leetic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:09 pm
Made wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:09 pm do we have a solved game if I die and flip town?
If you will flip town, wouldn't you want to not die?

transparently, im not sure. I don’t want to be a long term liability. my slot just feels murky—like to put it into perspective, i expected to be the flip today based on yesterday, and I could be, but the way we’re getting there scares me. like I would be a wonderful person to vig imo.

i am—maybe unreasonably so— terribly afraid that i survive today (again), we have to flip me in lylo, and we lose

do we have a solved game if I die and flip town?

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