The Syndicate

I'm not even all that busy, but I do feel slightly overwhelmed by the size of this game. I've read pretty much everything as it was posted, but a lot of it has just straight flown over my head, and I'm especially having trouble keeping track of who says what. MP makes a good point that I'm not offering much of anything right now, and he's completely right, I'm still adjusting to the pace. I appreciate Zebra's ISOs/GTHs (I have no idea what those acronyms mean but she keeps using them so one of them is probably right and I have a slightly better grasp on the game after reading them.

So a few quick thoughts (MP made a post with a bunch of different points to address but oh jeez give me a few minutes to even feel like reading it):

sig approached my Tattooine posts from two completely different angles before and after people were talking about it. His original response was:

It could also favor the Hutts, but we might just be overthinking it.

So it stands that he doesn't think my question is too out there and he's being helpful, suggesting that maybe we're just oblivious, right? Then Mac calls me scum, then this happens:

sig wrote:I don't think enrique vote for Yavin is suspicious.
Though this

Enrique wrote:I think Tattooine, in the worst case scenario, would favor the Independents. Do we know what their win conditions are yet?

The Hutts aren't independent and are based on Tattooine so I find this interesting.

Bro... you had my back... just a minute ago. If you found it straight sus from the beginning, then fair enough, but how do you go and pull a 180 the moment somebody else mentions my name? Now, his post is not especially accusatory, he's very careful with his words ("I find this interesting") but the implication is right there and it bothers me that he was so quick to jump on it like that.

One more thing I'm not all that comfortable with is the "let's go to the baddie option to find out their plans" rhetoric. Like, um, excuse me? That's never been a thing like that in Mafia, has there? Or at least I don't remember it from my days. The baddie option benefits the baddies and that's that. Matt's push for the Death Star was especially disconcerting, but my first real "what the fuck did he just say that" moment was when Russ suggested Tattooine was a good option "to find out Jabba's plans." Huh? It's hard to think a Hutt would be so upfront about wanting to go to Jabba's lair, but I certainly didn't read that and think "damn, Russ, that's some fine civvie logic!" There's many valid reasons why people might've voted Tattooine, the one I remember reading the most being "because that's where the movies started," but jeez how do you expect me to trust someone whose vote is founded on it being the baddie option?

This is also a thing that gets me, about people voting Alderaan because "it sounds the nicest." What the fuck, dude, maybe it's more exciting or something, but people complained there wasn't a single bad thing to say about Yavin and you vote for a planet that's only famous for blowing up and killing everyone in it? Day 0 logic is some weird shit.

Oh yeah and Matt definitely had some sort of info. He was pushing it so far down our throats I can't even tell what his goal was, and he can keep denying it but he definitely knew something or he wouldn't have been so damn persistent. It's not like anyone was going to forget after the day was over. There had to be a reason.

Okay, wowie, now to figure everything else out and stop skimming the longer posts.

I think there's a bit much attention on me trying to make up my mind for Day 0. I looked at Tattoine, I looked at Endor. For Endor I looked both ways, and even the Tattooine question wasn't a lot more than "wouldn't this benefit independents? What's the deal with them?"

Maybe I didn't lay out my whole thought process, but I commented on what I found worth commenting. Tattooine got a bunch of votes, and I doubt all of them stopped to consider "wait, isn't that where Jabba is based?"

sig wrote:I don't think enrique vote for Yavin is suspicious.
Though this

Enrique wrote:I think Tattooine, in the worst case scenario, would favor the Independents. Do we know what their win conditions are yet?

The Hutts aren't independent and are based on Tattooine so I find this interesting.

Yeah that seemed really obvious once somebody pointed it out. To be fair, when I think of Tattooine I always associate it with those raider shits stealing the droids, Anakin coming back to kill them, etc. I haven't watched a Star Wars film since I was 10, and though yes I know the Hutts are based there, it just kinda went over my head when I made that post.

Oh jeez. OK, here's my issue with this whole thing: everyone's talking as if I didn't provide any reason for my vote when I did, from the beginning! I'm on mobile right now so finding it is a bit of a hassle, I'm gonna get on my laptop ASAP and quote the post because really it isn't hard to find. From my first mention of Yavin, before I voted for it, I mentioned what a blatant civvie option it looked like. Mac went on to press me as to why I hadn't voted for it yet, and I said hey I don't know why nobody else has. There's not much to that beyond me making up my mind.

I'm reading the whole thread but honestly I'm not very good at absorbing things from mobile, so I have very little to comment on right now. I will be back with my thoughts on some more things not directly related to me. This whole argument is just silly. I shouldn't have to defend myself here.

i mean, im replying. honestly i havent been putting enough energy into this game and i have very little idea of whats going on outside of mac building a narrative out of all my posts.

i disagree about there being any nervousness or inconsistencies in my voting. i considered some options, found one that actually managed to look appealing, and went for it.

thats like the biggest nonstory ive seen presented as a case on mafia

tbh i had no idea what "Yavin" was until i read the descriptions, at which point it was a bit of a no-brainer. like really? the place is literally the civvie base where the civvies do cool things in the movies. i DID consider my options (tattooine, endor) up until i found out about yavin. but then when it looked so good, surely i was missing something that kept people away from it? nobody gave it any consideration so i just put it down to lack of familiarity and went ahead and voted.

like i dont even understand what the baddie logic behind anything there would be.

uhh okie

It struck me as pretty odd too. Like, wouldn't it stand to reason that (as somebody pointed out to me earlier) that Jabba would benefit from going to his own lair? I mean, we're just going to a planet, that doesn't mean we'll suddenly find out everything about Team Jabba.

I'm also not really caught up with the thread and I apologize. Shitty day. I'll make an effort tomorrow to get up to speed.

Oh. I was way off. Thank you DH.

What day is Thanksgiving? Is it this Sunday? That's the one that's always on a Sunday right?

Well, at least that's not me.

Voted Yavin. You guys are all crazy.

huh

I haven't voted at all. I was just wondering if there was a reason not to.

Why doesn't Yavin have any votes? You guys realize that's literally like the civvie base, right?

a2thezebra wrote:

Enrique wrote:

Matt F wrote:Why isn't everyone picking Death Star? I heard they have free wifi now so obvi the best option.

what r u hidin from us matty

Yeah, he seems pretty excited about it.

what if his goal was to make us not vote for it

i mean i never intended to anyway but what if

Matt F wrote:Why isn't everyone picking Death Star? I heard they have free wifi now so obvi the best option.

what r u hidin from us matty

Endor is actually a lot more appealing when you read the roles and realize we have an Ewok on our side. Maybe it's not so dangerous after all.

I think Tattooine, in the worst case scenario, would favor the Independents. Do we know what their win conditions are yet?

nah it's okay you're not missing out.

All of the locations sound dangerous tbh

Hoth had like big yeti creature things. Not nice.