The Syndicate

KZA wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 10:25 pm I feel like the odds of Enrique being some double vote Mafia are also very low in this setup but it's still a thought I should share if anyone seriously disagrees

I wasn't expecting anything else anyway.

Okay I have moved back to Scirrus. If Enrique is real then Alison will die. @Epignosis any concerns? I’m not Epi, but yes. If he is lying then there will be no Lynch and we wasted a day The other way to prove my role would be to *actually* make a no-lynch by using my extra vote to tie it. See what ...

Okay I have moved back to Scirrus. If Enrique is real then Alison will die. @Epignosis any concerns? I’m not Epi, but yes. If he is lying then there will be no Lynch and we wasted a day The other way to prove my role would be to *actually* make a no-lynch by using my extra vote to tie it. See what ...

KZA wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 10:14 pm If Epi and I are both here until EoD we can arrange the wagons in such a way that Enrique ties it at 4 but a chop would still occur if Enrique is telling the truth since his vote is worth 2 and it would become 5-4

If you're willing I'm good.

[VOTE: Alison] aubergine

Out of the two I would prefer to vote for Alison but that wouldn't prove anything. So unless people want to move votes around, idk how you wanna do it.

Alison I just feel it more. Feels like a "fuck mechanics" scenario frankly. If I'm wrong whatever. [28] I agree that feels say Alison, mechanics say Scirrus. I don't know that I trust the former more. You don't seem to be willing in this situation to demonstrate your role power that you c...

Alison I just feel it more. Feels like a "fuck mechanics" scenario frankly. If I'm wrong whatever. [28] I agree that feels say Alison, mechanics say Scirrus. I don't know that I trust the former more. You don't seem to be willing in this situation to demonstrate your role power that you c...

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 8:17 pm [VOTE: Alison] aubergine

I just feel it more. Feels like a "fuck mechanics" scenario frankly. If I'm wrong whatever.

[28]

I agree that feels say Alison, mechanics say Scirrus. I don't know that I trust the former more.

I will be busy tonight at my usual posting time. So it looks like I have to decide between Alison and Scirrus now. Awesome, no pressure.

meh i feel like i've explained my general positions to the best of my abilities. yeah i feel stuck but i don't have a better solution than just seeing what's up with grogu. i've asked to be blocked tonight and i'll probably be in trouble if the mafia doesn't kill again... so no matter what i can har...

I'll play but I hope we don't start for a bit longer still...

Announcing this now rather than surprising you later: I'm not convinced, but, if by the end of the day I'm tying Grogu to Scirrus with my extra vote, I will move my vote to ensure that there is a lynch.

who did you protect...

The flipside for you in case of a Grogu scum flip: we couldn’t really say you’re cleared for Night 1 anymore (I had been operating under the assumption mafia failed to kill you), but you’d still pretty much get cleared on Night 2, when you would have been free to kill someone. i can, because I was ...

basically the only way that theory is true is if ALL the scum members are afk (because otherwise the active scum would just submit the factional NK), and that seems unlikely compared to just "the mafia were roleblocked" Okay, but it’s not me. And if it’s Scirrus then I still don’t believe...

The flipside for you in case of a Grogu scum flip: we couldn’t really say you’re cleared for Night 1 anymore (I had been operating under the assumption mafia failed to kill you), but you’d still pretty much get cleared on Night 2, when you would have been free to kill someone.

If there was a person who was supposed to do it and just forgot, nobody else had to forget, and aside from the straight up missing reywaS it wouldn’t be unlikely for a relatively innactive teammate (ie. Poison) to not follow up on the state of the kill. The same thing happening on two consecutive ni...

Okay but. This player admitted that they forgot to send their night action. They weren’t ant more active the following day. I’m not pulling it out of my ass.

errr i said that backwards

meant “you’re scum but i’m hoping you flip scum?” *

I'm not accepting this. There was a kill N1. That was Marmot. Someone sent that in. Who was it? I block Enrique and there's no kill and people are voting Grogu? I can clear myself and die. We need to vote Enrique here, he doesn’t sound truthful on his push of me. He’s hoping I flip scum and just tr...

Plenty of other things could have happened but when I saw that there was no kill tonight it really made me go.... oh... so the mafia isn’t playing this game... and that’s essentially how I still feel. I would feel very embarrassed to lose at this point.

if i do die today i want it to stay on the record that sometimes as a civ i use multiple players’ names in a single paragraph and it won’t tell you my alignment~~

if the blockers want to alternate nights making sure i never kill anyone that’s fine by me because as i’ve made clear, i don’t have a night power. if we lynch grogu today and he’s scum that’s even better. make sure grogu and i are tied and he’ll die, because that’s my role, my vote counts for two. i...

There’s two players in my POE (Grogu, reywaS) who are highly unlikely to have submitted a night action, and possibly no mafia kill. Could easily be a coincidence, it could also just be that dumb of a situation. If rey isn’t gonna show I at least want to turn the heat up on @Grogu tomorrow. I want t...

if they never kill anybody and i *still* don’t make it to the end somehow i’m gonna be so pissed lmao

Town is being lead astray here Who hasn't claimed? I think everyone who hasn't claimed should claim now. @Enrique @Poison @reywaS @Grogu I think these are the nonclaims, apologies if you claimed and i haven't seen it yeah why not. i have an extra vote. tie me with rewyaS and we’ll be rid of a scum

There’s two players in my POE (Grogu, reywaS) who are highly unlikely to have submitted a night action, and possibly no mafia kill. Could easily be a coincidence, it could also just be that dumb of a situation. If rey isn’t gonna show I at least want to turn the heat up on Grogu tomorrow. I want to ...

Whatever I think of Scirrus at face value and/or theories of his claim, I must acknowledge he was a wet noodle all of Day 2. I'm open to dialogue. i propose to you that scirrus and I should be treated as difference checked. 1) we both have strong scumreads on each other. 2) if I am town, scum tried...

I’m not inclined to buy either the “mafia voluntarily abstained” or “Scirrus is a vig but a bad one” explanations. He could be lying, but not in that way... maybe it’s just my ignorance but how often are mafia vigs even a thing? In a game so small that feels super unbalanced. On the other hand if t...

It'd be pretty funny if Grogu missed the kill and he just showed up and admitted it.

A hosting philosophy question has been asked of me that warrants being shared with the full game thread. Individual role powers must always be submitted by the individual player holding the role. Teammates (civvie, baddie, and indy) may not submit a teammate's individual role power on their behalf....

Long Con wasn't blocked, therefore Alison was protected -- unless anyone else has something she's "mechanically" civilian. Quotes added for the G-Manism. Nobody is denying Alison was protected. I'm telling you that much. Is Alison a civilian? What I mean is that her protection is what pre...

A hosting philosophy question has been asked of me that warrants being shared with the full game thread. Individual role powers must always be submitted by the individual player holding the role. Teammates (civvie, baddie, and indy) may not submit a teammate's individual role power on their behalf....

Mafia vig is still too weird a concept for me, especially coupled with the suggestion that the Mafia *chose* not to kill. If anything I think they just missed it. It’s too small a game IMO, the kill is worth more than the mindfuck.

Long Con wasn't blocked, therefore Alison was protected -- unless anyone else has something she's "mechanically" civilian. Quotes added for the G-Manism. Nobody is denying Alison was protected. I'm telling you that much. Is Alison a civilian? Looks like that *or* the mafia really didn’t s...

ah man fuck that

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Mar 03, 2021 10:08 pm I put in to copy Enrique in case I somehow live.

I don’t have a night power. :/

I’m not inclined to buy either the “mafia voluntarily abstained” or “Scirrus is a vig but a bad one” explanations. He could be lying, but not in that way... maybe it’s just my ignorance but how often are mafia vigs even a thing? In a game so small that feels super unbalanced. On the other hand if th...

bro i literally just posted about how i didn’t have time for the thread all day and just got home... chill.

Why is part of the theory involving me trying to kill Epi? That's the most unbelievable thing. I'd never target Epi night 1 for a kill. The host made an announcement that the mafia can withhold their kill. This is probably what happened Stretch. At least one of us is trying to solve. Unfair.

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Mar 03, 2021 8:06 am Why is part of the theory involving me trying to kill Epi? That's the most unbelievable thing. I'd never target Epi night 1 for a kill.

The host made an announcement that the mafia can withhold their kill. This is probably what happened

Stretch.

I don't think Scirrus shot Marmot to claim for credit I think Scirrus shot Marmot because JJJ/Alison are most likely protected, Epi was taken care of by LC (or so he thought), and so the shot pool for a hypothetical Mafia Vigilante Scirrus is {splints, Grogu, Poison, Enrique, Marmot}, and out of th...

Gonna be frank: I don't think there's any way in hell a civilian Alison thinks [mafia vigilante Scirrus] is the most probable explanation for these events. The logic is loaded with holes, the assumptions are too numerous, and the odds at face value should seem low. I also don't really believe her s...

got it its 40 mins

My day’s been extremely busy. I’m not sure if there’s 40 minutes left on the poll or close to two hours, but I hope it’s the latter... gonna have dinner quick and then see about this game again. Sorry for being absent.

I don't remember exactly what Nanook was going for besides mentioning the difference check (that I didn't understand at the time and just kind of shrugged off). I'll look into that tomorrow too. I just remember thinking your turn was very sharp, and even though I disagreed with the idea of a differe...

In fact, I have a problem with the way Scirrus claimed. Marmot died and four minutes later, Scirrus claimed not one but two things. mafia was messed with i claim vig and shot marmot Why not wait and see what reactions take place after Marmot's death? Why put that out there right away? Nobody was su...

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Mar 03, 2021 2:11 am I lied about being a full cop. I'm partially insane - my check has a 50% chance to be wrong. The check on Enrique came back mafia. Therefore Enrique has a 50% chance to be town and a 50% chance to be mafia, which is >rand.

Okay that's pretty funny though.

I still haven't done the more in-depth re-read I wanted to earlier, and I've mostly skipped over the last page that talks about Long Con more specifically (from what I see he would be a good lynch, will pay more attn tomorrow). I just want to say... I feel a very strange break when I read JJJ's post...

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 9:38 pm @Enrique please tell me about Marmot.

He’s dead. :/

I think I need to do a serious re-read / ISO of almost everyone. I will let you know what I find.

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