The Syndicate

Scotty wrote:Noting that sig and Enrique both find serge suspicious and support MM's case on golden.
Keeping that in my back pocket for later.

:twirl:

(serge's a cop btw)

Golden wrote:I can't believe I'm being accused of being a fucking moron in two games at once.

yeah i cannot imagine what that feels like...

Serge wrote:Wow, that lynch came out from nowhere. The poll would have me believe that ika got lynched but the first page isn't updated yet. I'm not really sure what happened there. I'll catch up in an hour or two, hopefully.

lmao

If people believe it I guess. I think I've laid out my thought process so if that doesn't convince you then w/e.

No, you should lynch me.

I can't wait for either endgame tbh.

jesus christ...

If I cared enough about this game I wouldn't be, but I actually want it now. I get an out, y'all get insight, Golden gets out of my ass.

Okay so lynch me, I'm not resisting. I guess I'm just some sort of imbecile who doesn't know how to scum.

That's more a reaction to the aftermath. We lynched a cop yippie-yay. You had your mind made up before this convo, don't pin it on that.

Golden I just don't have the patience to deal with you (misleadingly) condescending to me and calling me a mafia/cop in this case that makes the most moronic chances at every chance. Just lynch me now and it will be a valuable contribution to our meta.

Sloonei wrote:
Enrique wrote:
Golden wrote:lol enrique and sig just look like they are co-ordinating a plan to take sloonei out, to me. Thats what it looks like.

Sloonei would for me be at 'confirmed civ' on the rainbow. He was first in and a critical piece of the Fuzz lynch. I will be astonished if he ends up being a cop. Astonished! It would probably be the most astonishing flip I would ever have seen! But I'm sure he isn't.
Golden you have bad, bad views lmao.

Lynch me tomorrow I don't have the time to play anyway. But Sloonei is bad, I called it already.

btw I was the first Fuzz voter

linki- as a game mechanic Golden, this isn't new
And this is another huge reason you're so suspicious. You were the first Fuzz voter, away from all the other bandwagons before the CFD was even on anyone's mind. As soon as it started you bailed. Why? What was your vote doing there if you didn't actually want to lynch him?

I was creating an unnecessary connection to my teammate on Day 2 because I fell like it.

Okay. It was a bullshit lynch and the fact that he was a cop doesn't change anything.

Golden wrote:lol enrique and sig just look like they are co-ordinating a plan to take sloonei out, to me. Thats what it looks like.

Sloonei would for me be at 'confirmed civ' on the rainbow. He was first in and a critical piece of the Fuzz lynch. I will be astonished if he ends up being a cop. Astonished! It would probably be the most astonishing flip I would ever have seen! But I'm sure he isn't.

Golden you have bad, bad views lmao.

Lynch me tomorrow I don't have the time to play anyway. But Sloonei is bad, I called it already.

btw I was the first Fuzz voter

linki- as a game mechanic Golden, this isn't new

I loathe changeable votes so much.

Sloonei wrote:
Enrique wrote:
Sloonei wrote:
Enrique wrote:
Sloonei wrote:I'm interested to know what quin and Enrique think of me now.
Oink oink.
Really? Even with that lynch result and my involvement in it?
You mean how you tried to back out of it after it gained steam and I had to pressure you into making a choice?

Yeah.
If you thought you were pressuring me into a decision, I assure you I had no idea this was happening.

I wasn't trying to back out at all, and if that's the way you're perceiving my actions then I think you're the one who oinks.

You're right, you were making "a strategic choice" not to vote for who you thought was bad.

Sloonei wrote:
Enrique wrote:
Sloonei wrote:I'm interested to know what quin and Enrique think of me now.
Oink oink.
Really? Even with that lynch result and my involvement in it?

You mean how you tried to back out of it after it gained steam and I had to pressure you into making a choice?

Yeah.

Sloonei wrote:I'm interested to know what quin and Enrique think of me now.

Oink oink.

I mean, Golden, if you're gonna justify everything through WIFOM there's not a lot of discussion to have.

Golden wrote:
Enrique wrote:
Epignosis wrote:I'm behind seven pages. Catching up before the deadline isn't going to happen. Can someone give me a summary of Fuzz? What'd he do?
Said he wouldn't touch ika/Silverwolf, then broke the tie against ika. Fast forward a bit and all the gleam voters immediately hop on him instead.
So, they abandon the easy way to save ika and make it very complex for themselves to save ika, thereby exposing ika as bad in the process?

I mean... get real... if ika is bad, the best way of saving him would be to convince others to vote gleam.

It's very easy to be critical of this shift if you happen to be cop and we are wrong about Fuzz. Very easy indeed. You can then paint the people who made the shift as bad tomorrow. You could lynch me, and call it my fault. But I'm watching you all - I think the shift is a great pointer towards everyone on it (except, possibly, DDL) being town.

Or
if I'm mafia and reading the thread.

linki- shut the fuck up every1

Epignosis wrote:I'm behind seven pages. Catching up before the deadline isn't going to happen. Can someone give me a summary of Fuzz? What'd he do?

Said he wouldn't touch ika/Silverwolf, then broke the tie against ika. Fast forward a bit and all the gleam voters immediately hop on him instead.

Sloonei wrote:Back to RadicalFuzz then, since we're all done entertaining new options now.

I don't agree with this vote, but thank you.

Silverwolf wrote:
Enrique wrote:
Silverwolf wrote:Fuzz was completely against the ika lynch, then came in and threw a vote on him to break the tie with no explanation. This kind of last minute flip flopping is not town-like behavior at all and is very opportunistic.

Fuzz should be lynched today.
Last minute behavior like... receiving 7 consecutive votes in 2 minutes, half an hour before EoD when he's not around?

linki- no wait he is around. still tho wth
Those votes occurred after a very opportunistic vote on a person he previously said he didn't want to vote, with no explanation. Also, his defense of this is weak and even the comment about not caring who died seem off and not pretty weak overall. Like he was pretending to look like town didn't care but failed at it.

You seem very invested in making this happen frankly for very little reason.

Breaking ties is a good thing fellas.

Hey Sloonei, be useful and break this tie?

Silverwolf wrote:Fuzz was completely against the ika lynch, then came in and threw a vote on him to break the tie with no explanation. This kind of last minute flip flopping is not town-like behavior at all and is very opportunistic.

Fuzz should be lynched today.

Last minute behavior like... receiving 7 consecutive votes in 2 minutes, half an hour before EoD when he's not around?

linki- no wait he is around. still tho wth

Sloonei wrote:
Enrique wrote:Guys Sloonei is a narc.
Chinese Fire Drill on Sloonei, anyone?

I don't do that, I prefer games with static votes plus at this point that's not gonna happen. All of your posts reek of donuts tho and I'll be glad to settle that tomorrow.

@Silverwolf: As good as any other reason.

Guys Sloonei is a narc.

Changing to ika because I don't trust the Fuzz wagon.

linki- well considering he went from 6 votes to 1 in five minutes? (i think)

What happened to all the people that thought gleam was bad?

This looks very very wrong.

Golden wrote:
Enrique wrote:Golden I really don't like this.
Why? Who do you think is being saved?

I have no clue, but someone. If the bandwagon fails, you weren't complicit in the others, if it succeeds, you still arbitrarily got somebody else lynched.

That felt dirty, having the first of 5 random votes for Fuzz. (I know there's a case– opportunistic voting. Oh well I'm seeing more of that stuff everywhere I look).

linki- what the fuck did i miss something important

Golden I really don't like this.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote:
Golden wrote:
Dragon D. Luffy wrote:I don't like the idea of starting another wagon, when we already have 3, with less than an hour for the phase to end.

This is the PERFECT opportunity for scum to save each other if they need to.

If you don't like the current wagons then tough luck. Try to push another one earlier next day.
Every post you make is making you look more scummy, imo. Why shouldn't we try to push one now, when so many people think all of the current wagons don't have a lot of merit?
If people don't like any of the 3 wagons then sure, go ahead.

But inviting people to look for a fourth one reeks of an attempt to deflect this lynch into something else.

I don't like the timing of this at all. Because all the scum who are seeing their possible teammates get lynched will take the chance to jump out.

Good post.

Sloonei wrote:I am starting to feel more inclined to vote for Epi, and if I reach a point where I'm confident enough to do that, I will do it.

Is that gonna happen on its own? Are you looking for encouragement?

also why is everyone voting fuzz now wtf i wasnt serious

Sloonei wrote:
Enrique wrote:
Sloonei wrote:I haven't left the ika wagon, don't worry. Just moving my vote around on the poll for strategic reasons.

linki- extremely low. I missed the first two days almost completely and my ADHD makes me only really skim through things I don't fully understand. I asked to be replaced a while ago, I feel really embarrassed about this, but it's gonna be hard for me to get fully into this game especially when I have tons of other work to catch up on.
Why did that post catch your eye?
I gave a much more in depth explanation that explained a part of my strategy for having my vote where it is right now. The other part is that I wanted to put pressure on other people while there was still time left in the day.

It read as manipulative, in a way that if somebody called you out on it you could just say "Trust me I'm just mysterious!"

Also shame on you, indiglo. My avi is an axolotl

Isn't it cute tho

linki- shut up sig we both know ur mine

Dragon D. Luffy wrote:
Sloonei wrote:I'm starting to feel better about an Epi vote than ika. Ika's frustration about all the votes he's getting seems genuine.
Did anyone say... three way tie?

Let's not. Ties are the devil, never mind three way.

a2thezebra wrote:
Enrique wrote:ika are you a baddie?
Are you?

Sloonei wrote:I haven't left the ika wagon, don't worry. Just moving my vote around on the poll for strategic reasons.

linki- extremely low. I missed the first two days almost completely and my ADHD makes me only really skim through things I don't fully understand. I asked to be replaced a while ago, I feel really embarrassed about this, but it's gonna be hard for me to get fully into this game especially when I have tons of other work to catch up on.

a2thezebra wrote:Both the gleam and ika wagons are highly suspicious/dubious.

I agree with this but I also seem to have missed the Epignosis one being a thing at all.

ika are you a baddie?

Voted RadicalFuzz. No reason.

agleaminranks is so intense lol. No negative read, I just really enjoy reading his posts. hardcore stuff :knight:

Quin wrote:
Golden wrote:Tranq may have been inactive, but he is also a very very good mafia player, who often manages to avoid attention from lynch and nk for long enough to do real damage. It says two possible things to me

1) at least one or two of the cops know tranq well, and wanted him out of the way early, or
2) Daisy wanted to take away one of sockface's players and picked someone she thought would be dangerous long term.

I think those are more likely than the cops simply taking him out for being inactive.
Does this mean that you have at the very least a neutral read for Scotty?

I think it'd be a bit of a bold move from Scotty to put himself in this position so early.

ika wrote:
Nerolunar wrote:
ika wrote:
Nerolunar wrote:Wow.

Well, if you can´t reference to posts and find bits of proof then how do you want us to agree with you? Why do you want to do ISO´s if you don´t want to analyse them?

Man.
i do analize them and most times i reach a conclusion based on skimming and what i feel i mean i could go role outing on people. cus thats what i look for in reading it, roles
Have you found anything?
yes i have found someone who is probally the hitman/don

damnnn tho lol

Turnip Head wrote:Lynching ika feels like it's lynching him because we don't understand him. Someone said that they cannot fathom his behavior as town, but can you fathom it as mafia either? To me it looks like ika doesn't give two shits about "behaving like town". I'm liking the energy he's bringing to the thread whether it's typical town behavior or not.

linki @ Llama: Well that's because it's more pleasant when you're around

I'm just kinda skimming over the last several pages but I wanted to say I agree with this completely. People's insistance of bringing the conversation back ika rubs me very wrong.

I'm so sorry, guys. I hate non-participators, but I simply don't have the time to catch up right now. I'm asking Daisy and MP to replace me, and also want to apologize for taking up a space in this awesome game I couldn't play. If they can't find a replacement and things calm down a bit on my end, then I'll make an effort to play this. I just have so much on my plate that kinda takes priority.

Err, Don, sorry.

I don't think you're having a go at me, I simply and I mean this sincerely hadn't been around till a couple hours ago, and still I'm sure I've contributed more than several other people in the game. The smileys I posted were probably like every single moment I even had signal yesterday. I'm also not grouping you with Diiny, you sorta just came up with that on your on.

But I'm here now and I may be a little swamped with work but I'll catch up any minute.

Quin wrote:
Enrique wrote:
Quin wrote:I've decided to change my vote to Enrique. I'm going to take sig's word for it that ika's actions are simply a cultural thing, but I've got my on him.

How much information we have determines who wins a game. That's one of my philosophies. That, and ask a shitload of questions and assume everything until proven otherwise. Enrique hasn't been able to provide the amount of information that I'd expect from a townie. The accusation I made of ika on how he ignored the traitor/don situation completely without justifying himself applies to Enrique in the same manner. On top of that, I found one of his latest posts (I'll find it as soon as I post this and explain myself) extremely scummy.
I ignored the situation? I said it was a terrible idea that each Don would try to avoid at all costs anyway.
What you said was in the same territory as saying 'I think x is mafia' but not explaining yourself. I want to know, from you, why Wilgy's plan was such a bad idea. I want to know why Diiny is so suspicious. Information drives this game and you provided nothing.

But I did address both of those points... one of them more or less indirectly in the post you quotes. The host would avoid making one of his team members defect, wouldn't he? And I thought Diiny was bad for his overeagerness in going after people who were barely even here, as well as jumping on every wagon that looked like it had a chance to take off.

I just got here, chill. I don't appreciate being told I'm not putting in the work when the game just started.

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