The Syndicate

Long Con wrote:Too many recruits, too much freedom of recruiting. I figured when Epig was saying the Civs had no chance that he was speaking from a behind-the-scenes perspective, and that this end is what he meant.

Chris wrote:So to be clear Gotrees, you're voting Dom based on your gut that he's bad?

And fewer lives left to be lost? He never survived an NK...

I don't understand your vote to be honest...


LINKI @ LC: No, Snow Dog is The Cyber Head.

Chris wrote:Gotrees, you plan on voting? I see you there lurking...

keys56000000000 wrote:If I die, look towards Bass, DF, Gotrees, Nijuukyoshryuken, and maybe even Dom, Elocin and BR (although I'm more doubtful about those three) as your remaining mafioso.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:keys is a she right? Or did I misread somewhere?

Correct.

Gotrees wrote:

nijuukyugou wrote:Shit, I thought the poll ended late like the other nights. Sorry, hosts

Ms Bloops I'm still awaiting a reply from you.

nijuukyugou wrote:Shit, I thought the poll ended late like the other nights. Sorry, hosts

zeek wrote:Night poll:

Tigus - Under Galatic Heritage in the novels, i.e. protection, the Doctor was stranded here once for all of five minutes before he worked out an escape.

Uranus - Mining of Uranus helped power the Time Destructor created by the Daleks. Some not so nice species like the Ice Warriors went to a moon there to observe a reaction on the surface of the planet.

Woman Wept - Visited by the Doc and Rose once (unseen), the whole planet was also taken by Davros and the Daleks during the Stolen Earth storyline, when they tried to use the Reality Bomb.

Vulcan - Human colony almost taken over by the Daleks. Doctor saved the planet and the Dalek survivors went into the Dalek Asylum.


Tigus sounds safest.

For some time there was speculation that the Monk was actually an earlier incarnation of the Master or the War Chief,

In an alternative timeline, the Monk cooperated alongside the Master, the Rani and Drax to try to destroy the world using a DNA recombinator, turning the human race into a gestalt consciousness which could be used as a weapon to conquer the universe.

According to REF: The Doctor's Lives and Times, the race for Enlightenment began in orbit of Woman Wept.

Enlightenment was a prize offered to a group of Eternals by the White Guardian and Black Guardian in a race. [...] It was claimed to bring anyone's heart's desire to life and Wrack wanted to win so she would never be bored again.

it was revealed that Enlightenment was in fact the ability to choose between good and evil, concepts of which the Eternals had no knowledge. Turlough threw the diamond at the Black Guardian and upon contact with Enlightenment he was consumed by flames from the blinding light of the prize.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Gotrees wrote:I think Elo has been acting strange this whole game. Starting off with a Juliets 1.0 vote, then an Azure vote, then a bunch of votes where she was the sole person voting for Dana, then suddenly she began voting very accurately and with the crowd, (Made, Enrique, MM, Roxy).

Might this shift in voting habits be due to being recruited? I don't know. What I do know is that (1) Elo doesn't appear to be any more active in thread to suggest that she actually has any reason to make these informed votes, and (2) every single vote since the Made vote, she has voted with Blooper, with the exception of one vote. In that vote, Blooper voted for Elo's favorite enemy, Dana. I feel like the recruiter might be recruiting these silent players and using them as pawns or something, I imagine it would be a good way to fly under the radar. I think it's generally being assumed that Elo is good because she survived the early Strax attack, but if my theory is right she was recruited just before the Made vote, and would not have been a baddie at the time of Strax's NK attempt.

I notice that Blooper was posting a few hours ago, but failed to reply to the concerns I mentioned earlier about her. If there really is a connection between Blooper and Elo, there might be one with Epig too (maybe as recruiter?). Although I realize this would definitely need a closer look.

Let me know if I'm insane, it's past 3 in the morning and I need some sleep. For that reason, I also won't be posting the planet summaries up right away, but I'll try to get them done before the poll closes tomorrow. I will mention, though, that Vulcan has made an appearance before. My summary of it can be found here. It had strong Dalek connotations, but now that the Daleks are dead I don't know what that means for us. Personally, I would still avoid it.

You should also be aware that Strax tried to kill Elo, but failed. Hence, she is either a civ or a baddie with protection.

nijuukyugou wrote: Just so I don't leave you hanging, I'm catching up a bit - I honestly missed the whole case on sabie, so that'll give you an idea of how far behind I am

As far as Epi goes, I really do think he's just burned out. I've said it before and I'll say it again - people say he acts strange/different/like a baddie, but he really just acts like himself, so it's not particularly weird behavior to me. Even though I know I'm a quieter player, I advocate having a look at quieter players, since surely not all of the baddies are out in the open like he is.

Are people saying Chris is the Master? I think I saw that a few pages back, but haven't gotten a chance to see exactly why this is so. I'm begrudgingly willing to glean posts and posts for it, but I'd much appreciate the shortened version if someone can oblige me

Long Con wrote:balloonery

Chris wrote: Gotrees was simply absent. I suppose when the Daleks were dead, and Sabie started taking heat, it could make sense to just disappear.

keys56000000000 wrote:Gotrees - I don't have anything in particular against you, no thread evidence. I just feel like I sense nonchalance in you. That's how I felt about Sabie. That's how I feel about DF, Hedgeowl, and sure Chris, Bass too. I forgot about Bass.

Dom wrote:
Thank you..
Why do you have time to do so much planet research, but not enough time for game play and reading?

keys56000000000 wrote:I don't think Sonw Dog or Epignosis are mafioso. Chris, I think you're reaching.

My suspects for Sabie's teammates are:
DF,
Gotrees,
Hedgeowl,
in no particular order.

http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Indigo_3 wrote: Indigo 3 was the location of the Blue Desert. The desert was perfectly symmetrical, but in the centre was the Sanctuary of Imperfect Symmetry, a religious retreat which existed to counterbalance the desert's perfection. (AUDIO: The Skull of Sobek)

http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/The_Skull_of_Sobek wrote: On the isolated planet of Indigo 3, far out in the wastes of the Blue Desert, lies the Sanctuary of Imperfect Symmetry. It is a place of contemplation and reflection. It is also a place of death. Something from another time, from another world, has found its way inside the hallowed walls. Something with a leathery hide, a long snout and sharp pointy teeth. Tick Tock. Here comes the crocodile...

Dom wrote:Gotrees, just curious, you say you aren't caught up, can you point me to where was the last time you read before you made that post?

juliets wrote:Gotrees, thank you for responding to my post.

juliets wrote: First, we can't deny that Gotrees has been super helpful on the night polls that involved planets from Dr. Who. Gathering all that material and publishing commentary at the end of each group must have taken a long time. He also has posted some videos that are interesting but not directly related to what is happening in the game. So I have to ask, why hasn't his posting been as complete? He talks about catching up which excuses him from posting thoughts or doing any baddie hunting. If he can post all that material about the planets why can't he keep up?

juliets wrote: Second, he indicates in this post he see's no connection between Enrique and Made, and says his own vote record is no better than Enriques, and finally he feels reluctant voting for made.

Gotrees wrote:Man, I'm not certain on either of them.

Epig does a better job arguing his case than Dom does, but Enri does a better job arguing his case than Made does.

Are people assuming Made is the Emperor Dalek and cant get lynched? Someone mentioned it earlier: if that were the case, there would be no need to save him last night. Also, I don't see any connection between Enrique and Made. Frankly, other people have come across as closer to each other.

The most suspicious thing on Enrique to me is his trend of unlucky votes, but it would be pretty hypocritical for me to criticize him for that, considering my record isn't too great either. His survival of last night is also a bit odd, but it seems pretty certain that it would be possible for him to potentially survive that night as a civ (eg. if the Master was blocked).

I feel reluctant voting for Made, though, too. I don't entirely understand the argument against him.

The thing I'm ultimately falling back on to base this vote on is my experiences with them outside of the game, since I mostly know them in that context. I mentioned on one of the first days that Made seemed a bit off to me. Enrique seems more like his usual self. It's entirely possible that he's just a better liar, but that's what I'm going on for now. I really hope I'm right.

juliets wrote: Third, Gotrees had this to say about Enrique (and MP) before the Enrique lynch. Note it begins with a soft complaint about how hard the game is to keep up with:

Gotrees wrote:Man, even without a lot of discussion this game is too much for me.

To be perfectly honest, MP and Enrique both seem equally bad to me. And by that, I mean they both seem civ. But so does everyone else. They just seem less civ than most people. I really need to improve my baddie-detector.

The case against Enrique is pretty much set in stone, I think. I agree that Made's actions seem suspicious, but can Enrique be entirely blamed for that? It is possible that Made just wanted to go out with a bang or something, or as someone mentioned a few posts up, wanted to save himself from being exposed as a baddie in an almost-tie. I don't know.

(I cut off the rest of this quote which was about MP)

First he says that he sees MP and Enrique as civ, just less civ than others. I guess that means he see's them as bad? He also says MP and Enrique seems equally bad which I disagree with. In my opinion MP never seemed as bad as Enrique seemed. He then defends Enrique against the accusation that Enrique is on Made's team as evidenced by Made voting for himself. Again, in my opinion it seemed pretty obvious why Made voted for himself - to try and help save Enrique.

juliets wrote: I know these issues don't feel meaty but like I said before, they've been stirring in the back of my mind. I'd like to hear from Gotrees and would especially like to know why he has a lot of time when he is putting something neutral in the thread (the info about the planets) but has not gotten more involved in some of our discussion except in that post where he talked about MP. I'd like responses to the other quotes but again, especially my first point.

It is presumed (and often implied) that there are still organic components beneath their suits, meaning they are actually cyborgs, not robots: in The Tenth Planet, a Cyberman tells a group of humans that "our brains are just like yours", although by the time of Attack of the Cybermen (1985), their brains seem to have been replaced with electronics.

Darillium was the location of the Singing Towers. The Eleventh Doctor took River Song to see these towers the last time she saw him before she went to the Library and met the Tenth Doctor. She told the Doctor in the Library that "the last time I saw you - the real you, the future you, I mean - you turned up on my doorstep with a new haircut and a suit. You took me to Darillium to see the Singing Towers. What a night that was. The towers sang and you cried. You wouldn't tell me why, but I suppose you knew it was time. My time. Time to come to the Library.

Circa 4,999,999,740, Catkind lived on the planet New Savannah. They were a primitive people at the time, and their natural resources were running low. The New Earth Empire came to New Savannah, and brought it and Catkind into the empire. They agreed to give the Cats autonomy until the year 5,000,000,000, when control would be given to the New Earth Empire. Within fifty years, Catkind had reached the same level of technology as the humans, and Catkind grew to distrust them. In order to avert a potential war, they left the Earth empire cities, which were then covered by empathic force fields, stopping any Cats from returning. Myths would spring up about these Cats, specifically about them being angry spirits.

In the intervening centuries, a cult sprang up to to oppose human influence. With the help of Bubastion, they destroyed the headquarters of Vedela Defense Systems, which controlled the force fields around the city. At the stroke of midnight at the start of 5,000,000,000, the forcefields were shut down and gigantic robots, disguised as undead Catkind, entered to the city. Unfortunately, Bubastion had programmed them to attack everyone, intending to use New Savannah for his own purposes. When Garrard Townsend, a member of the cult, learned they were being used, he turned the force fields back on and deactivated the robots.

Stormcage Containment Facility was a prison in the 52nd century of the highest security. River Song was a prisoner there and a frequent escapee, but always returned as her part of the charade to make the Silence think she actually killed the Doctor at Lake Silencio.

Though the staff were able to keep most of the prisoners in their cells, they failed endlessly with River Song. However, as she always returned after a breakout, they might have eventually given up on trying to stop her and left her to her own agenda.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:I voted Vulcan until I do some research.

bea wrote:and Gotrees has special new person love in my world too.

Enrique wrote:Dylan, you might be able to answer this. "The upgrade had failed" before the Cybermen killed zeek? What does that mean?

Elohcin wrote:I am going with Red Rocket.

In an alternate timeline in which the Cybermen conquered the Borg, Raxacoricofallapatorius was among the many worlds the Cybermen conquered, the natives all cyber-converted.

Red Rocket Rising was a planet colonised by humans.

Riften 5 was a satellite of Vita 15. On Riften 5, the Fifth Doctor visited the vid-archives and saw genetic tests that were run on Daleks after the War of Sharpened Hearts.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Gotrees wrote:I'll get to work on another planet summary thing in a bit if no one else does it first.

Go for it.

Gotrees wrote:So...

Made is Dalek king?

Also, I love that vid.

Epignosis wrote: "This will be an interesting vote."

The word "certainly" isn't necessary. See?

Long Con wrote:I would think Made, if he were Emperor Dalek, would still not want to be lynched, and thus exposed as that role to the more suspicious of us. A save of him to keep his cover makes sense.

zeek wrote:If we aim for a tie between a civ and a baddie, the civ will be lynched. No tie. I think its necessary to have a clear choice of 2 votes so its free from manipulation in that sense at least.