The Syndicate

Congrats to the civvies!

I was convinced someone had been recruited because I just had too many people I thought were bad. I didn't occur to me the celestials would want to work with the baddies. I knew every time someone tried to push a lynch my way they were bad. For the record, I could either put an item in the bag or use it-not both. I figured they would be stolen. I just misunderstood what I heard Night 1 for a while. I was really hoping offering up my vote would save me another day.

Thanks for the great game Llama!

Don't mind if I do! Thanks Sophie

Aw that looks festive FS. I need after the sugar high the Easter bunny put my son on.


Well I finally got what SVS was saying, I don't know what to make of Vompatti at this point and after reading him the last 24 or so hours I don't trust Bullzeye.

It's alright. I guess it's okay to say now I tried to set the Bar higher but I guess I had nothing in my Bag of tricks.

No rezz please. I just want to enjoy my cosmopolitan in peace.

Well it's clear this vote isn't going any other way. I tried. On the plus side for the civvies I'm probably one of the better roles to lose as I have nothing to offer. No one will be receiving any items because I don't have any. I'm not the millionaire, I don't even know why Canuck thinks that.

Save me a seat at the bar Golden, Sophie and FS.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

LizKeen wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:What I want to know is what can you accomplish from a group of us telling you where to put your vote that you couldn't accomplish by placing your vote somewhere yourself?

2 mafia have been lynched. If I was mafia and gave my vote away that would make me the worst teammate ever. Me just voting how I want to vote would prove nothing.

What would you prove to everyone else by conforming your vote to the player of their choice? Giving the responsibility of your vote to seven other players to handle doesn't seem like a good idea to me. If you are a civilian, you should vote the person you find most suspicious.

their? I was including you in that suggestion but you don't seem to be. It seems a likely scenario I'm going to be lynched. I'm just trying not to be.

And Dom's post reminds, I never answered SVS. I don't know who you would vote TBH. You voted BF first on Day 1. you voted somewhere in the middle on MM Day 2. You did a turnaround about your opinion on Zombarella Day 3 and voted Vomp, you accidentally self-voted Day 4 and you weren't going to vote Epi Day 5 but then you changed your mind after his lynch was certain. You seem to be hinting at something with TH but I guess I'm just not getting it. Could someone clue me in?

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

LizKeen wrote:What I want to know is what can you accomplish from a group of us telling you where to put your vote that you couldn't accomplish by placing your vote somewhere yourself?

2 mafia have been lynched. If I was mafia and gave my vote away that would make me the worst teammate ever. Me just voting how I want to vote would prove nothing.

Black Rock wrote: Also with this Liz thing I have no idea what she means. I checked the roles and really don't get this hint thing. I wish someone was around to bounce ideas off of.

I'm not role hinting. I don't even know what I would be hinting at. Although, I didn't do it intentionally, but I think my role would be rather obvious if anyone caught something in previous posts.

Metalmarsh89 wrote: 2) The last point in the list I brought forth on LizKeen, in which LizKeen suspects Epignosis based on reasoning brought forth by SVS.

I did not suspect Epignosis because of SVS. I simply speculated on something she said. You're really making more out of a comment than it deserves. He really caught my eye when he suddenly tried to steer the idea of a lynch on me. And I asked more than once for opinions on who people thought was lying in the back and forth between Long Con and Epi, but it took a long while before anyone responded to that.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
@juliets. LizKeen asked this question on Night 1. My point here was that LizKeen said that "it could be possible for a teammate to give an item to put in the safe". Everyone knew that Epignosis had a safe because he voted for it on Day 0. However, nobody would have known that Epignosis was bad at that point in time unless they were one of his teammates. Regardless if it's true or false, it looks like LizKeen asked this question with the knowledge that a "teammate" even had a safe.

I wasn't even thinking about who had the safe when I posted this. I was merely speculating on what could happen. I don't think Epi was even on my radar at that point. If I was his teammate and had such knowledge why in the world would I have even said this?

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Black Rock wrote:Interesting. Right at this moment how are you feeling about Liz?

Right now, she would get my vote.

I feel less certain about her than I did about Epignosis, I will say that. On the other hand, nobody has denied the points I brought forth, and I don't know how I feel about that.

I'm still trying to get a feel for who the Celestials are, and I am pretty certain she is not one of them.

I said days ago I wasn't a Celestial. You have gone back and forth saying I'm not bad, I'm bad, I'm not bad, I'm bad. I don't get you.

Black Rock wrote:Ok, I need to go to bed. I am not going to vote tonight like I said I was. I am going to try and pop in here at one point tomorrow. At this moment I have way to many questions floating around in my head and I would like to see more discussion. If the host wants to push back the vote that wouldn't bother me at all *nudge nudge* but that is selfish and I'll try my best to vote tomorrow.

linki: Denied your points? Do you mean like someone defending her?

It won't happen. I have NO teammates other than civvies. I don't want people to vote me but if someone suddenly does try to push my civvieness it's a set-up.

The host has no problem with it so I'm going to try it. The only way I can think of to get you guys to believe me is to hand you my vote at this point. So here's the deal: Tomorrow's Easter and I won't be around until late, however, if before I go to bed, (and I'm an insomniac so that will be a while), if enough people can come to an agreement on where I should place my vote tomorrow I will put my vote on that person. First, second, third vote, whatever I really don't care. (Obviously not going to vote myself of course.) I won't go off just 3 people because that could be mafia, I think to be fair I need at least 7 people in agreement.

I have an idea that I think would show I'm civvie but I don't know how kosher it would be to do.

Bullzeye wrote:

LizKeen wrote:

Bullzeye wrote:

LizKeen wrote:

Bullzeye wrote:Being useful and being a civvie are two entirely different things though.

Ok, what is it about Vompatti's post that you're finding civvie?

His posts are the usual Vompatti stuff.

Well that would drive me batty.


I wish I knew how to convince you people I'm not bad. Does it even make sense I would be on a team with Epignosis? I've thought he was bad since about Day 2. And he was trying to steer people towards me Day 3.

Do you not have anything to say about the rest of my post? I wish someone could explain to me where the other three baddies voted if both Zomb and Vomp are bad and got so many votes each. In my opinion, it makes more sense that some of the people responsible for the Vomp case would be baddies trying to save Zomb. Epi even voted Vomp to tie it up! Why would he have deliberately created a tie between two of his teammates? Surely it would have been better for him to put the final nail in Zomb's coffin?

As for you, it's not unheard of for teammates to go after each other. That's the whole concept of distancing. Some players spend all game looking for a nice big bus to throw their own team under when they're bad. For all I know you could be like that. The two of you could've agreed in btsc to go after each other so one would have civ cred when the other was lynched. A lot of your posts just don't add up with the idea of you being good IMO.

I guess I don't know what else I was supposed to say to that. This post kind of contradicts itself. You're saying one teammate wouldn't have voted another but then you say two teammates would throw each other under the bus for distancing? Maybe Vompatti and Zombarella were teammates and since Vompatti wasn't really participating they threw him under the bus. I don't know.

S~V~S wrote:
Like I said, though. I would either like to test LCs theory with a Vomp lynch. Or you can try to lynch me, or the obviously silenced AGAIN Turnip Head. I won't be voting for Turnip Head- ever. (in this game)

Linki, Wow, Vomps is having a linear conversation with someone. I don't know that I have ever seen that

You weren't voting Epignosis either. By the end of the day I wouldn't be surprised to see you vote TH.

Vompatti wrote:

S~V~S wrote:

Vompatti wrote:If Turnip Head is not bad, why did he vote for me?

Maybe he thinks you're bad, Sugar. It happens.

He should be thankful for all the votes I gave him.

I don't understand this post, unless you're saying TH IS the millionaire.

Bullzeye wrote:I do still have the key, but I've put it up for sale in this auction thing since it's completely useless t me.

What if it becomes useful? Why would you chance selling it to the mafia?

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

LizKeen wrote:

Turnip Head wrote:You gotta risk it to get the biscuit.

You stole my line.

Long Con wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:I don't know if baddies can transfer items around between teamies, but my guess is that the vault keeps papers safe from thieves.

I don't think so:

thellama73 wrote:How Items Work

Some items can be used to confer benefits, some cannot. Some items will be consumed when used, some will not. Most items can be stolen. When someone is lynched, all of the items they possess go to the people who voted for them, in order. So the first vote gets the first item, etc. When someone is NKed, whoever performed the kill gets the item. Items may not be voluntarily traded between players.

Transfer and traded are two different things. So I would say it could be possible for a teammate to give an item to put in the safe.

I'm baffled as to why the stock certificate would start a fire. Why would anyone want to burn stock? Unless the stock market crashes.

I'm off to bed but I hope tomorrow doesn't find the whole city burned down.

Who had the safe? Epignosis. The other baddie had a vault.

On Night 1, LizKeen could not have possibly known this unless she was a baddie.

I didn't KNOW anything. We're back to this ridiculous argument again. I was MERELY SPECULATING, because as I've said before to me TRANSFER AND TRADE MEAN TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.

Long Con wrote:Interesting point on Lizkeen, Metalmarsh! It's like she knew that a baddie or Celestial had the Safe, isn't that right?

Again, didn't know anything. All I had was those earphones and I've put it out there multiple times what I heard.



And this (finally) is the first time that LizKeen mentioned any suspicion of Epignosis. This happened Day 3, just after SVS mentioned the theory that TH and Epignosis were targeted together, in agreement with SVS's post.[/quote]



I was suspicious of Epi for trying to steer the next lynch in my direction.


I've got to run to the store before it closes and then I'll address anything else addressed to me or about me.

It would be easier to support you if you'd give us anything to work with.

Bullzeye wrote:

LizKeen wrote:

Bullzeye wrote:Being useful and being a civvie are two entirely different things though.

Ok, what is it about Vompatti's post that you're finding civvie?

His posts are the usual Vompatti stuff.

Well that would drive me batty.


I wish I knew how to convince you people I'm not bad. Does it even make sense I would be on a team with Epignosis? I've thought he was bad since about Day 2. And he was trying to steer people towards me Day 3.

Bullzeye wrote:Being useful and being a civvie are two entirely different things though.

Ok, what is it about Vompatti's post that you're finding civvie?

I'm not up for that! But it doesn't seem as anyone is paying me much mind anyway. I was up for an SVS lynch until FS got killed. Now I'm not sure. Vompatti has been 0 use this game.

RIP Fingersplints. I could never get a read on you. I thought you were bad for pushing the Sophie lynch, then good for being an early Epi voter. Than you defended SVS so I didn't know what to think.

SVS, what civvie came back? And I wasn't implying you role claim about being lynched. My thought was if you had said nothing I think people would have just assumed you were Legga and left it at that.



Can someone repost the poem? I can't read it on my phone.

No way am I selling a vote, but I'd be willing to buy those ear tubes back.

If MM is on to something I'd be up for a Vompatti lynch today.

Wasn't fs the first vote for Epi?


That was supposed to be at the end of the last post in response to MM.

S~V~S wrote:Um, I aggressively pursued her until freaking Golden made me think I was wrong. It was like 5:30 AM, I came in the thread, and Zomba & Liz had lulled Golden into a sense of complacency. He said he did not think she was bad, I read her posts from that night and thought he might have a point. I did not trust my own gut, and I got burnt by her (and Golden). When you posted those two quotes from me that morning with Golden and Zomba and made the crack about my post, then my next post, you did NOT mention that they were 40 minutes or so apart. You also did not mention that it was like 5 or 6 AM and no one was here, lol.

But like I said, I have been very open. If you choose to ignore it, or not believe it because it would be more fun for you if i am bad, that's fine. But I am not bad, and I think you know that

I did not "lull" Golden into anything. You think I was working with Zomberella and then turned around and put the second vote on her? It would have made more sense for me to go along with Golden's "I think we can turn this lynch around" idea if that was the case. I don't buy into the whole "mafia could be throwing their teammates under the bus" theory, it has never made sense to me when it comes to an early vote. Later yes, I can see it, but in the first few votes almost a day before the lynch does not make any sense to me. Not unless they're the millionaire and even then that's pretty risky.


Wasn't fs the first vote for Epi?

I think I get what you're trying to hint at SVS but if that's the case why imply it was the item you had saving you rather than letting us think you were maybe Legga. Surely if that wasn't your role Legga wouldn't have minded people thinking it, until/unless someone tried to nightkill them. I've been baffled at the fact the mafia tried to kill you night 2 but then never pursued it again. The thing about Oliver Oliver is how does he know who he's talking to is telling him the truth?


I've been trying to get into Hedville but it's not letting me. I've been trying to find the Piano but it's not coming up in my searches. Did anyone ever play there? If so do you have a link? I know I stopped playing around 2009 or 10.


I'd like to put it out there my vote record is as such: I voted Zomberella Day 1. She wasn't the Millionaire so that would have pointless if I knew her role. bf/townie lynched.
Day 2, I missed the vote but I was pretty clear I wasn't on board with that MM lynch. MM /townie lynched
Day 3, I voted second for Zombarella (granted I was worried about myself) but she was lynched/mafia
Day 4, I thought that was a complete railroad of Sophie. I voted DP. He was n/k'ed so I assume he was townie but that was an odd kill. I wouldn't have been on board with it if I was mafia because he probably could have been easily lynched the next day.
Day 5, Voted 4th for Epi. It was a half-day until the vote-could have gone any which way. I posted my suspicion of him Day 2 and I never wavered from thinking he was probably mafia. Lynched/mafia.

I wasn't going to post that because I knew it would just be jumped on as WIFOM but I really got nothing much to lose at this point.

I'll go look at Hedville when I get home.


We only have your word you were even cursed,and how did you know a civvie did it? The doctor has an ability? How were you silenced when you posted on Epi. Wouldn't silence trump everything?
You completely backtracked today and you flipped your opinion on Zombarella when she was in trouble.


FS, you suspect me, what about SVS?

I'm not worried, I don't think there's shoe-eating in my future.

If you're not epi's teammate I'll eat my shoe.

TH, I played as nobodysfool for a while. I can't remember what else, I'll have to go look. That stupid mistake is going to dog me becAuse the mafia is going to use it to their advantage.

Bad Blonde Beast!

Can I just vote SVS now?

Oh, and Bullzeye I did respond to that requoting comment and when I am home on my computer I will go find it for you.

I am on my phone so I can't require multiple posts. I don't know where this stuff about I haven't responded to stuff is coming from. Juliet, you linked me back to posts you were curious about and I responded. I made my case on Epi day 2 or 3 and he's never stopped suspecting me from what I can tell so distancing we are not. I am not trying to fear mongrr. I am a highly paranoid player and never assume there's not some game mechanics we might not be aware of. I don't know what powers the millionaire gains, does anyone have any thoughts on the powers? I'm merely speculating one could be a lynch save. If no one else thinks that's a possibility than I'd be up for lynching him tomorrow because his nonsense posts and " vote for me" post scream baddie to me. I don't know his game style. Does he always do this?
The Juliet's Coffee thing I have explained. I can understand it seems suspicious. It is what it is, a mistake.
No, I don't really expect reciprocation from MM. If you want to know who would be higher on my suspect list still I would say besides Epi, SVS, Vompatti, TH, Juliet, FS (depending how this vote turns out) and Elohcin.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:LizKeen, who is Zompatti?

The love child of Vompatti and Zombarella.

Or, I hit a Z instead of a V on the keyboard.


And I'm sober and that line still makes sense to me.

juliets wrote:I did not play games at Lostpedia as Juliets Coffee. I played as ImaPisces. And how many games did you read at Rev?

I was trying to quote and paste and answer on my phone and posted the wrong site. I didn't play at Lostpedia that meant to say Hedville. And probably 2 or 3. I decided not to play there because people looked like they were being really nasty to each other. It's one of the reasons I quit all together. I played at The Piano once or twice too. Can't remember the name of the site before that.

S~V~S wrote:Lini, no, lol, not to make you look bad. Make your votes fit with your posts, which they don't. You say one thing, and vote another. I want to try to see where you are coming from with those votes.

Why no votes for Vomps? Not just that one day; any day.

Okay my votes: Day 1 I voted Zombarella because I didn't feel bf would have been so bold if he was a baddie. I voted Zombarella because there wasn't much to go on and I thought that comment she made might have been outing herself.


Day 2 I didn't think MM was bad most especially based on those posts the last day. But I missed the vote. I was less sure about Zombarella because from the ear phones I knew the mafia planned to put the doctors ability on whoever Zomba voted for. I took that to mean they were going to set Zomba up to look suspicious. Hence, why I told her to be careful where she put her vote. I wanted to vote you that day but that didn't seem to be where anyone else was looking and I didn't want to vote MM.

Day 3 I still wasn't sure about Zomb, especially with those posts she made right before I voted but as I've explained more than once I thought the lynch the next day might come down to her or me and I wasn't going to vote myself. Had I had a chance to be around closer to the vote I probably would have voted Zompatti because I already pointed out his posts were less than useful. I know its easy to say after the fact. I can say if I had been a baddie teammate with Zombarella I would not have voted her that early even to save myself. Again I have no way to prove this.

Day 4 I voted DP because I couldn't wrap my brain around him having that elephant charm unless he was the beast. Yes, it's been said the celestials might want it for something and yes it's also been pointed out all sorts of game mechanics could have accounted for it. I wasn't willing to chance a duck is a duck.

Vompatti as I've said twice now seems to want to be voted for. Which could explain his useless odd posts. No, I won't vote for him at least not right now because either he's the millionaire or for some reason wants us to think that. If he is is the millionaire then by my count he has 8 votes already (that could explain the day 1 self-vote) and who knows how much power and if one of those powers is the ability to avoid a lynch I don't want to waste a vote AND give him more power.

You've made no bones about the fact you won't vote Epi. Which says to me you know who he is, which means you're both either mafia, indy, or you're bad and you know he'll flip civvie and you want to give yourself some cred. What is your take on him tying up the vote on Day 3?

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

S~V~S wrote:What is your opinion on Liz?

My opinion on Liz is that I think you're right, and she's as bad as they come. I'm surprised she hasn't been lynched yet.

Wow really? No reciprocal benefit of the doubt? Ok then.

Epignosis wrote:
I see you
I see you though your eyes can tell lies I sympathize

Well that's creepy. What am I wearing?

S~V~S wrote:
And I was tryig to disguise myself in a sock puppet game. And gone for the day =/= insanified. At Rm & LP, generally lynching those unable to defend was not done. I still don;t like to do it, and I know there are others who feel as i do. Call us old ladies.

I don't like to do it either. But I refuse to grow old and as to whether I'm a lady it depends on who you ask. :P

However, Epi seems to do quite well posting in song.


Or maybe not. I have no idea what this means:

Epignosis wrote:
Sol, Dhoop
Sun
Ilios
Naytheet
Ah Kin
Saule
Tonatiuh
Qurax
Gunes, Grian
Surie
Ir
Samse

Metalmarsh89 wrote: I'm losing the motivation to make a case right now. I've already made two (on other players) this game to no avail. And my ideas here keep getting stomped on.

I feel your pain.

LOTS of people have thrown guff at Epi this game. Not sure why you are so sure it's you up for the frame.

Like I said I was being paranoid.

I just read all of your posts. You know what? The only person consistently in your suspect list is Vomp. And you never voted for him once. Not even when he was almost lynched. I know, I know, you voted early because you were in such fear for your life.

Like you pointed out, I voted early because it was either that or chance missing another vote and at that point I had no way of knowing how the lynch was going to go. The suspicion at that point seemed to be me or Zomberella so a vote on Vompatti wouldn't have made sense. If you look at the posts you 'll see I wasn't back that day before the vote. Given how many votes he got that day and that post he made yesterday I think it may be a very good thing he didn't get any more votes. It seems he actually wants them. And actually my suspect list hasn't changed much, if at all. My only problem is there's about 7 people on it and there's supposedly only 4 mafia left.



How do you know Juliets as Juliets Coffee? Did you play at RM or Lostpedia?
I did play at Lostpedia once or twice a long time ago. And I read a couple of games at RM but decided not to join. I think that name just got stuck in my head.

There is something bothering me after reading your posts, I have to read again and try to put the posts in context, and make them fit with your voting record.[/quote]

Make them fit? Just to make me look bad?

Epignosis wrote:

LizKeen wrote:I haven't felt good about Epi since I made that initial post about him. And tying up the vote between vompatti and zomberella didn't help.

LizKeen wrote:At this point it just appears I've made myself an easy lynch target and that sucks. If that succeeds and you all have to start saying my bad I would be taking a long look at Epignosis, Juliet's Coffee and Elohcin, TH and Vomp.

LizKeen wrote:And Epi being insanified I would guess is a ploy to make me look bad. Possibly cooked up by him and his teammates.

Show me the strength of your
Singular eye.

My eyes are weak but the nose knows...

And I haven't cleared any of the above 5 people from my suspect list. But I suppose I was just being paranoid about the other, I didn't know how much people like to curse you. :P

I haven't felt good about Epi since I made that initial post about him. And tying up the vote between vompatti and zomberella didn't help.

I'll take Yes over Kanye.

If some of them aren't being faked. Although apparently that bottle really gravitates toward Epi. I'd like to sign up for Piffington Wainwright's class. Will there be a course on the differences/similarities of trade and transfer?

S~V~S wrote:Why?

Because I couldn't get past that he had the elephant charm and I didn't understand why anyone would want to steal that item.

RIP DP. I really thought you were the Beast.

I'm just trying to figure things out. The lynch of Sophie just felt very off to me.

I feel like the Celestials and the mafia are voting the same people. I can see why the mafia would do it but is there some reasoning the Celestials would do it? Either that or there's some recruited folk.

We've lost all the info roles

RIP Sophie

I can see why civvies never win. Are we sure there's only 4 mafia? That felt like a mafia rampage.

*my phone is being ornery about letting me post*

I didn't ask him about the charm so never mind.

LizKeen wrote:But I asked if mr. Fung if there was any advantage to one team having the item and he said no.

Oh wait, I may not have asked about the charm. *goes to look*

But I asked if mr. Fung if there was any advantage to one team having the item and he said no.

I hope you Sophie voters are right. My thing about DP is like I said earlier, unless that charm got stolen from BR before she was killed then it ended up in beasts hands. And if someone stole it from her they should know who the beast of Bremen is and I don't think I've seen anyone trying to impart that knowledge. I can see why someone would take my ear tubes and maybe a rare book but why an elephant charm?

fs, if you're so sure Sophie is bad why haven't you just gone ahead and voted her?

Vompatti wrote:You guys should totally vote for me so my baddie teammates' protective powers whome I have BTSM with won't go to waste!

Then I'd say you're the Millionaire and you've already gained power which means you could have some lynch save so I'm not chancing wasting a vote.



I'm voting DP. I just don't trust that he's got that Elephant Charm from a steal.

I just looked. Bullzeye's last post was he was going away for the weekend.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

LizKeen wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:On one hand, I may or may not have switched roles when I entered the game.

Your other role is dead, so that's a moot point.

Epignosis wrote:Ironically, I feel like I'm the only person in this game paying any attention.

I'm kinda offended by that

Just pulling these two points out for the irony, Miss LizKeen.

I replaced in for A Person. Also, per the Day 4 Post, I may or may not have switched roles with Bass.


Are you sure you're paying attention?

Touche, since apparently I missed that TH had already answered my question. Although I don't know that I believe the answer. But I do appreciate a response. I misunderstood your post MM. I thought you were saying you may or may not still be the police inspector.

But I swear I've probably read and reread this game probably more than anyone in the history of mafia ever. I honestly believe I've made some valid points, when I'm not screwing up. :P I swear, I'm trying really hard.

Turnip Head wrote:And while we're talking about it, I really doubt that that's what the bottle does. I think it's more likely that Epi was targeted not by an item, but by a power from the baddie camp. Probably something like this:

Roles wrote:Macleish MacPherson - The Crooked Doctor - Can dispense medicine that does a variety of unsavory and often illegal things.

This just feels really off to me. Why such doubt MM sent Epi the bottle. If he'd been bad and used the Doctor's ability on Epi, why would he have called attention to it in any way?

Casimer Jech - The Antique Dealer - Can trade his items for others each night. If the item is usable, both parties can immediately gain the benefit.

The point I meant to make about this is I didn't get an item, Juliet isn't saying she got an item. And BR didn't say she got an item. But she may not have known.

juliets wrote:I am not lying about the book. Why would I lie?

A baddie would lie.

juliets wrote:Tell me what doesn't make sense and I will explain it.

See the underlined quotes. First you believe the book was used on Epi. Then the fact it left you night one is a stumbling block to that. Than MM is likely telling the truth. You say all this is posts on the very same page. Which is why it is confusing to me.

juliets wrote:LC, I just noticed that one of your issues with Epi is he looks as if he had a curse on him to answer questions with a "yes" which you think is possible he made up. I think I can prove he didn't make it up. I chose a rare book as an item and the book had the power to make people say "yes" to questions asked of them. I really didn't see how that was useful because I thought people would see through it but anyway it got stolen from me. I believe it was used on Epi.

juliets wrote:You're right LC, I didn't think of it that way. I double checked my spreadsheet and it was stolen night one. I double checked the pm on the item and it was definitely that the receiver has to say yes to every action. But maybe this is relevant - when I asked about it I was told it didn't do anything right now (back then). I don't understand really what that meant, not that I wanted to use it then. Maybe it had to be stolen to activate? Anyway, the fact that it left me night one appears to be a stumbling block to it having been used on Epi. Which I guess means its still out there to be used by someone else.

juliets wrote:

Long Con wrote:

juliets wrote:

Long Con wrote:

juliets wrote:You're right LC, I didn't think of it that way. I double checked my spreadsheet and it was stolen night one. I double checked the pm on the item and it was definitely that the receiver has to say yes to every action. But maybe this is relevant - when I asked about it I was told it didn't do anything right now (back then). I don't understand really what that meant, not that I wanted to use it then. Maybe it had to be stolen to activate? Anyway, the fact that it left me night one appears to be a stumbling block to it having been used on Epi. Which I guess means its still out there to be used by someone else.

Juliets, I don't think you're reading the thread closely enough. I just told you that MEtalmarsh claimed responsibility for Epig's Affirmative Curse on Day Two. Your rare book is not directly relevant to Epig's curse, as far as I can see.

I read that he said that and I read that you repeated it. I didn't think he was telling the truth when he said it but since he was good I guess he was. I'm not sure why you are saying I didn't. This post was to close out our discussion on the rare book.

Ok, as long as we're on the same page here. When you said "the fact that it left me night one appears to be a stumbling block to it having been used on Epi" I thought it displayed a lack of understanding of the Metalmarsh-bottle thing.

Oh I see what you mean. No we're on the same page. Since MM was good, him saying that was likely the truth.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:So here is my main question. If Turnip Head is one of the roles that allows him to steal an item (Tim Waldo, Sophie Kratzenschneiderwümpel, Casimer Jech, Luke McCracken, or Ichabod Chang), what good would it do him to come into the thread and say he "just ended up with the bottle last night"?

TH, why do you think you ended up with the bottle?

I don't know why but I wasn't really catching the fact that Sophie Kratzenschneiderwümpel could steal. And, I'm still not sold that Luke McCracken can actually steal.
Casimer Jech - The Antique Dealer - Can trade his items for others each night. If the item is usable, both parties can immediately gain the benefit. But if someone stole the Elephant Charm before DP got it wouldn't they know who the Beast of Bremen is?

Metalmarsh89 wrote:And you guys should try "Gay Bob doll. He goes all the way... Ever try oral sex with a miniature rubberized homo-replica?"

You and Epi are giving me nightmares.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:On one hand, I may or may not have switched roles when I entered the game.

Your other role is dead, so that's a moot point.

Epignosis wrote:Ironically, I feel like I'm the only person in this game paying any attention.

I'm kinda offended by that

Turnip Head wrote: I'm on the fence about Dom at the moment. I have some concerns, not least of which he is that he threw the first vote on Zomba and is now trying to make DP's vote for Vomp look bad in contrast. For all we know, Dom voted for his sinking teammate first to distance as much as he could.

This actually doesn't make sense to me. Dom had voiced his suspicion of Zombarella early on Day 3. If he was voting a teammate it would have been far more likely because he knew she was the millionaire. Which she wasn't.

And TH, you STILL haven't responded to that Day 2 post I've brought up at least 4 or 5 times now.

I was giving Sophie some time becuase she had a lot to catch up. But she's had plenty of time now. She suspects DP and Epi as do I so I'm not finding her all that suspicious yet. I do find fs defending DP and calling out Sophie interesting though.

Long Con wrote:No church in the wild

But I think Kanye would prefer you quote Beyonce.