The Syndicate

K bye

Ricochet wrote:I would have closed the Ponderosa thread too, tbh. Knowing how the show's format deals with the closing procedure, post-judgement judgement talking feels meh.

What happens in a tie

Think it's called you were the loudest.

I would have closed the Ponderosa thread too, tbh. Knowing how the show's format deals with the closing procedure, post-judgement judgement talking feels meh.

About as good as "pick a number between 1 and 10"

I don't think the Quin power role complaint is fair, just like the Opt power role complaint isn't either. Quin didn't use idols every tribal council. The others didn't eliminate him when he didn't. Their loss. Opt didn't win every challenge ever. In fact, she lost the very last one. She was left in the game.

It is what it is.

DharmaHelper wrote:Maybe it's just my personal preference but I can't see how anyone can not choose Opt to win the game. She played the social game like a pro, adapting to the loss of a strong ally in myself. She rode another strong ally (Golden) and had the sense/balls to cut him loose. And she won the majority of immunity challenges (even ones she had no role advantage in)

She can lose based on butthurt effect. INH and Epig seem way more detached, but don't know about the rest.

I still sort of suspect a bitter jury maj on this one.

<doesn't care much about Survivor irl
<cares instead about BB

oh, Negoo

Scotty wrote:
Ricochet wrote:Do real life jury members discuss their vote option openly? I think this shouldn't be allowed in Ponderosa. It could be so easy to rally up or influence another's vote.
Here's where this game and the real game slightly differ:

Because tribal comes directly after Lorab was voted out, I thought it h fair to LORab to not be able to discuss with her fellow jurors her thoughts.

What does happen in the real life ponderosa is people do mingle and rally for their prospective vote before tribal, discuss what they're going to talk about, etc. This is a mechanic that the jury has but doesn't always have to play with.

Oh ok.

I'm just of the mentality that, mingle and all, it wouldn't (or I wouldn't like for it to) influence my decision. I'd only be judging the ones in the final 2 or 3 chairs.

Do real life jury members discuss their vote option openly? I think this shouldn't be allowed in Ponderosa. It could be so easy to rally up or influence another's vote.

GOSORSHA

WHERS DA POST

Sorsha going for the jugular, woo!

DharmaHelper wrote:If Opt and Quin are in the final 3:

would you give the game to the person who won the most individual immunity challenge

or

would you give the game to the person whose role allowed them to find a near infinite supply of immunity idols?

The former, overall.

The latter, most surely.

Tbh, both Opt and LoRab could in principle try to deny each other the chance of winning, by not making it in the Final 3, but I think they could face a tough match against Quin afterwards, either way.

Still can't believe I named a completely random winner when there were 7 or 8 left and here she is, in the final at least.

Well wellity well.

zzzzz

juliets wrote:
Ricochet wrote:^I agree. From what I'm reading, I think 50% of the jury will go bitter. Opt needs to win immunity and take players with her that have less chance to win over the jury. LoRab is prolly the best choice going forward. If it's Final 3, I'm not sure Sorsha would absorb too many votes, except if the jury is real salty on both Opt and LoRab. Quin could probably give her a hard time, maybe even make her lose.

Then again, the most vocal people to discuss who they like or dissent are S~V~S, Golden and Eloh. Epig appears to be willing to vote Opt now. INH doesn't seem to have an issue with recognizing Opt's game. No idea what the others think.
One thing that occurs to me is Epig could be persuaded by Elo's feelings about Opt and decide not to vote for her based on those feelings. Hard to tell though.

I think the fair thing would be for each to decide who he wants to give his vote to.

I don't see why Epignosis in particular would have issues assessing the worthiest player in a game for him.

^I agree. From what I'm reading, I think 50% of the jury will go bitter. Opt needs to win immunity and take players with her that have less chance to win over the jury. LoRab is prolly the best choice going forward. If it's Final 3, I'm not sure Sorsha would absorb too many votes, except if the jury is real salty on both Opt and LoRab. Quin could probably give her a hard time, maybe even make her lose.

Then again, the most vocal people to discuss who they like or dissent are S~V~S, Golden and Eloh. Epig appears to be willing to vote Opt now. INH doesn't seem to have an issue with recognizing Opt's game. No idea what the others think.

So Opt voted Eloh with him, huh? Man, she might have a lot to endure through jury time, overall.

Is Opt planning to take LoRab with her in the Final because LoRab would be the goat? Was LoRab that stabby or not favored by the jury members?

I don't think Sorsha will get any jury votes, at this point, except maybe S~V~S supporting her?

This is all assuming Quin is not taken into the Final, which should make it more challenging for both Opt and LoRab.

Oh man why did they not blindside LoRab? Bigly waste of an opportunity.

Who is Quin even aligned with anymore?

Spoiler: show

Ponderosa lot apparently are unaware Quin has an idol and think he'll still go down tonight?

Oh the sizzle.

They should turn on LoRab tbh. Blindside her with Quin. Anything else and Elo and Sorsha are toasties b4 Final 3.

DharmaHelper wrote:
Ricochet wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:All tbis LMS hate. This was one of the best games on the site in my time here.
We live now, more than ever before, in an age of Dead-or-Alive wins. Most probably don't want to openly embrace a format in which they'd only have a 1 in 19 (or however much) chance of winning.

Would you describe this as one of the best for its Mafia format per se or is it just the hype that were getting a close as possible Survivor experience?
It was the most fun. I didn't have to worry about hunting baddies or being hunted. I got to goof around and just have fun. I think LMS in general is a better format because it's less structured and there is more flexibility.

I don't even particularly like Survivor :P

But you were hunted down.

If it's LMS, everyone else eventually is the "baddie". L'enfer c'est les autres.

I think the LMS format packs the same amount of psychological structure as a typical Mafia does. Even more individual level, as opposed to a collective one.

And I'm saying all this without any real discontent for the format, like for instance Epig shares. Is it Mafia? I don't really care, it really works as a once in a while variation. I'd be willing to host one, for the fun of the spectacle. Meanwhile, I wouldn't really come near one, given my losing complex. So I wouldn't be able to embrace the fun of it.

DharmaHelper wrote:All tbis LMS hate. This was one of the best games on the site in my time here.

We live now, more than ever before, in an age of Dead-or-Alive wins. Most probably don't want to openly embrace a format in which they'd only have a 1 in 19 (or however much) chance of winning.

Would you describe this as one of the best for its Mafia format per se or is it just the hype that were getting a close as possible Survivor experience?

Final phases in Survivor Mafia be like:

Did Sorsha use her special item? From the sound of it, it could be yuuuuuge.

Talk is talk, but grudge is also grudge.

Then again, since this isn't really about winning a million bucks or real life retribution or anything, by Jury time, everyone will revert to simply considering who deserves this game win better.

I think S~V~S has already said in the Jury thread that Opt would not be among those whom she'd give her vote. I think Golden might have issues too? That's two, already.

Someone needs to constantly remind me how the alliances are shaped, at least on paper.

I agree Quin might be in doo-doo, following his idol waste.
I genuinely think any immunity drop from Opt will trigger "mwahaha off you go" votes from the rest. Call it pessimism.
If Quin goes tomorrow, I think any or both Eloh and Sorsha could wrestle to sink at least LoRab and give themselves a 1 in 2 chance for a final two. Then again, both her and Sorsha have been vote targets, when idols were used, so they might not last after all.

oh the sizzle

Leave Sorsha alone!

DharmaHelper wrote:
juliets wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:If what SVS said is accurate and they already know who they're voting off, it's Quin tonight.
I thought Quin had an immunity idol? Maybe not. It looks like SVS expects it to be Sorsha.
Oh wait, yeah. Probably Sorsha then Quin since its almost final 5.

Unless they blindside Quin.

Where's Eloh in this equation? Who is she really aligned with or under whose umbrella is she placed? She also completely missed BTSC this time.

Scotty wrote:
Ricochet wrote:Have I created a monster after screwing with Scotty in Watchmen?
Nah man. Can't beat the technical villainy that was those goddamn puzzles.

The difference is that mine have a solution.

Yours created problems

The best kind.

Have I created a monster after screwing with Scotty in Watchmen?

How many Jury members did Golden actively sink? Might have a bad bitter jury time, accordingly.

DharmaHelper wrote:Another side note, I'd be wary about winning too much immunity/reward. People see that and they wait for the one you don't win to cut you.

I had said that a page ago. tsk tsk king

I for one don't get the part about cutting off BTSC. Isn't it an integral part of the lore?

DH, if you were in the final jury, who would you, at the moment, spew fire against and who would you go "all in all, you have the king's respect", at the Final Tribal Council?

Also, given that alliance packs seem to be in threes right now, I hope this game is a Final 2. Definitely needs more salt that three-player packs sticking it to the end.

My pleb senses are telling me that if Opt doesn't win immunity at any point left in the game, given she played her idol, everyone except maybe LoRab will try to sink her. Looking at Golden, if the opportunity comes closer to Final stuff.

Opt not having immunity will bring to mind Weakest Link snafu strategies. You don't always bring your strongest with you in the final.

Oh schnap.

juliets wrote:
Ricochet wrote:
Scotty wrote:She is continuing to slightly suggest the final 5 all-girls alliance, but is being very soft about it.
That'd only be like, what, the third time on this website?
Rico, what game besides GOC ended with all women?

Enrique's LMS game.

Scotty wrote:She is continuing to slightly suggest the final 5 all-girls alliance, but is being very soft about it.

That'd only be like, what, the third time on this website?

Sorsha is going to win this and people won't even see it coming.

Scotty wrote: Kerosine

Jesus H. Christ, I was hopelessly staring at "kerosen" missing a third e to it for two hours yesterday, with no clue this variant existed.

why is this allowed

fok science

hi what did i miss besides everythin

bye bye king

Yeah, time for a "King" or "Queen" to die. Enough pawns.

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