The Syndicate

I think Kevin's seemer power counts a bust under the circumstances of Eloh's early (and unexpected) death and Cecil being still alive (and with people who could potentially connect with him - his private messenger, for instance - still alive). Plus, my personal feeling is that rolehinting in this game was quite leniently supervised, which obviously didn't work in Mafia's favor, in absence of closed setup and/or counterfeit roles to claim as. Not that circumventing the claim rule is uncommon, via subtle hints and such, still midway through the game everyone was discussing openly who they are or think others are. Easy to get the mafia stuck on their chessboard spots, this way. Not sure how TSP stayed alive this much, given that Boom had no death/wrath to fear from the Politicians (I missed Boom's early attempt to call bullsuit on TSP's claim, so whatever).

Slightly bemused by Tan's design myself, tbh, but not familiar with any of the lore - maybe he is a character who went with the wind. Being bulletproof isn't that uncommon, when you want your indy role not to get rekt that easily by nightkill forces (Moloch or The Judge from Epig's games comes to mind). Inheriting the mafia kill is definitely not uncommon, but I don't understand how that didn't turn him into an antagonist one bit. Indy-inheriting killers usually become SKs. What I would have probably never allowed myself was the role to change his wincon prediction that easily and often. Pretty low pressure indy role, overall, for Boomslang to handle.

Golden wrote: ↑Sun Jul 30, 2017 8:36 pm rico, I assume your gimmick was real and not forced?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2017 8:34 pm Ricohet...

this is super important...

...what do you think of...

....America...

...by...

...Yes?

Well done, scumbo, making me waste a night of search with this fake hint.

America... Erika...

Dom wrote: ↑Sun Jul 30, 2017 7:18 pmquin hasn't voted.

Dom wrote: ↑Sun Jul 30, 2017 7:18 pmquin

Dom wrote: ↑Sun Jul 30, 2017 7:18 pmvote

speedchuck

insertnamehere wrote: ↑Sun Jul 30, 2017 6:59 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Sat Jul 29, 2017 8:18 pm Of course rico is bonkers enough, but that doesn't mean he's bad. He was one of the most vehement in keeping tony firmly in his sights as a lynch option.

This is a guy who I seriously contemplated for a while as politician, but it just doesn't fit with the facts.

Alrighty, this seems to be the thin-ass reasoning behind why no one but myself and Futurama Wilgy seem to not be considering Rico in any real way.

And it's bullshit.

The Day 3 vote made Tony looks shady as shit, and he seemed like primo lynch material. Rico did take a stand against him, by posting cat emojis, but he was much more loudly against myself and Golden.

In fact, Ricochet and TonyStarkPrime both voted against me on Day 2 and Day 4. Ricochet never voted for TSP a single time.

It's already clear how two baddies from two different teams, Epignosis and TonyStarkPrime, were able to use me as an easy target, with Ricochet being the one driving the train with the false accusation against me.

Rico posted a couple wolfie emojis in response to TSP's posts immediately in the aftermath of Day 2, and the Elo lynch. After that, however, he quickly hopped on the "TSP = Tan Jacket" bandwagon.

Spoiler: show

Ricochet wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2017 7:50 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2017 7:44 pm This is a defense of Tony.

TonyStarkPrime

The Man in the Tan Jacket

LET ME POST

Ricochet wrote: ↑Sat Jul 29, 2017 2:01 am

Boomslang wrote: ↑Fri Jul 28, 2017 10:09 pm TSP is not the Man in the Tan Jacket. Y'all barking up the wrong tree with that.

Here are Ricochet's two proposed Politician teams. Note that TSP is not on either.

Spoiler: show

Ricochet wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2017 3:16 pm

Politicians (3)

timmer

Glow Cloud

Elohcin

Hiram McDaniels

insertnamehere

Ricochet wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2017 8:45 pm

Politicians (3)

insertnamehere

speedchuck

sprityo

Golden

I utterly fail to see any sort of special attention paid to both the Politician team (outside of quoting every post I make and adding a wolf emoji) or TonyStarkPrime, and Golden's statement absolving Rico doesn't make a lick of sense to me.

Ricochet

speedchuck

if

Ricochet

speedchuck

Dom wrote: ↑Sun Jul 30, 2017 6:48 pm

Ricochet wrote: ↑Sun Jul 30, 2017 4:14 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 30, 2017 3:59 pm Scruffy already said this. For the good of this company, we must kill Bender.

Vote=speedchuck

Ricochet

speedchuck

You are not the cat.

Ricochet

speedchuck

insertnamehere wrote: ↑Sun Jul 30, 2017 6:42 pm Unfortunately, last time I checked, I wasn't a lawyer living in New Zealand.

I'm still gonna write a case against you, just out of sheer prickliness.

The sad part is that with the short term memory of some of these people, they'll probably forget it by this time Day 7. If there is a Day 7.

insertnamehere wrote: ↑Sun Jul 30, 2017 6:27 pm well I guess my vote is more ceremonial and arbitrary than anything else

Ricochet wrote: ↑Sun Jul 30, 2017 4:14 pm

Ricochet

speedchuck

Golden wrote: ↑Sun Jul 30, 2017 5:50 pm I'd still look at rico before I looked at inh

Ricochet
2
14%
Voters: DrWilgy, speedchuck
speedchuck
5
36%
Voters: Golden, Boomslang, Dom, sprityo, Ricochet

insertnamehere

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 30, 2017 3:59 pm Scruffy already said this. For the good of this company, we must kill Bender.

Vote=speedchuck

Ricochet

speedchuck

speedchuck wrote:

Boomslang wrote: ↑Sun Jul 30, 2017 9:51 am

sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Jul 30, 2017 1:51 am

Boomslang wrote: ↑Sat Jul 29, 2017 8:09 pm Still out on vacation. Did read through the thread, and I agree with Dom the best candidates are speedchuck and spirityo. Voting speedchuck.

About Rico, if we think TSP was Hiram due to secrets, then his post restriction isn't coming from a role restriction.

i know he's third party and all but this is questionable.

how much do we trust boomslang to side with us if it comes down to it you think? i wouldnt mine removing him if we couldnt come to a conclusion on who to lynch by tomorrow evening

I think this is a very wasteful line of thinking. We only have a few shots to get the remaining mafia, and deliberately using one of those shots on someone you don't suspect as bad is asinine.

nijuukyugou wrote: ↑Sat Jul 29, 2017 12:51 am
killed by the Man in the Tan Jacket.

Boomslang

insertnamehere
speedchuck

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Jul 30, 2017 9:07 am Aye, this. I haven't even been considering Dom for the status of politician.

Could somebody update me on why Sprit is apparently confirmed town?

sprityo wrote: ↑Sat Jul 29, 2017 2:14 pm
Rico, I know for a fact that the real Cecil is alive

Eloh was Kevin 100%

sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Jul 30, 2017 1:39 am Dom, im assuming you and Rico have figured me out by now? Rico i think finally caught on today

insertnamehere wrote: ↑Sat Jul 29, 2017 8:03 pm RAINBOW LIST

INH
Quin
Boomslang
Speedchuck
Sprityo
Dom
Wilgy
Ricochet

Quin is more or less town-cleared, Boomslang is the Man in the Tan Jacket, Speed and Sprit are the people who I've agreed with the most over the course of the game, I'm not inclined to vote for either of them. I disagree with Dom's read on Speed, and I think we've been going in opposite directions for most of the game. Nevertheless, the dude has hunted pretty damn hard, which is why he's above Wilgy. Who's just...you know...here. Doin' Wilgy stuff.

And the perennial last on my list is Ricochet. Who I'm convinced is bad.

Golden, do you really think a person bonkers enough to willingly post in emojis isn't bonkers enough to fake being cursed when they themselves are the one doing the cursing?

Dom wrote: ↑Sat Jul 29, 2017 7:35 pm I severely doubt INH is bad at this point.

Dom wrote: ↑Sat Jul 29, 2017 7:25 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Sat Jul 29, 2017 7:23 pm Also noting - for it to be Dom, he would have to have read blue velvet without playing. Didn't check if he was the MoD.

I was, but if you notice-- I did literally nothing for it.

Dom wrote: ↑Sat Jul 29, 2017 6:44 pm No one hsould be lynching sprityo because sprityo didn't curse anyone.

Keep in mind, we're looking for the No Faced Woman. That ain't sprit.

Speedchuck is my best guess at the last pol.

Ricochet-- I apologize for forgetting your curse that barely impeded your communication because you have all but made communication impossible in this game.

Dom wrote: ↑Sat Jul 29, 2017 6:44 pm No one hsould be lynching sprityo because sprityo didn't curse anyone.

Keep in mind, we're looking for the No Faced Woman. That ain't sprit.

insertnamehere
speedchuck

Golden wrote: ↑Sat Jul 29, 2017 4:05 pm A note on Rico - it's not impossible that his steadfast refusal to use words may be a role limitation. If so, he's Hiram. It seems unlikely, because he's using blobs that he likes. But Hiram apparently tries to pretend to be human but is obviously not.

Chances that rico just happens to get a role that allows him to act enigmatically? Low. I don't think much of this theory. But I can't rule it out.
I still wish Rico would do something else now that we're at endgame. At least G-Man started using Memes with words in.

sprityo wrote: ↑Sat Jul 29, 2017 2:14 pm
Rico, I know for a fact that the real Cecil is alive

Eloh was Kevin 100%

insertnamehere wrote: ↑Sat Jul 29, 2017 2:59 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Sat Jul 29, 2017 2:26 pm

insertnamehere wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2017 9:16 pmYou and mayyybe Speedchuck are the people I could see having cursed right now.

INH, on night 2 you fingered epi and speedchuck as the ones most likely to have been responsible for the cursing. Do you remember why you saw them as more likely?

Both were around a decent length in Blue Velvet. Epi was adamantly against Rico's Poppy-posting, and I thought he perhaps doth protest too much. Speed was more or less indifferent to Rico's behavior in that game, and it surprised me that no one was throwing his name around as a possible FOW.

I'm still not sold on it being someone from Blue Velvet 100%, as it's easily possible for someone to have heard about Rico's schtick and just re-used it to frame a certain group of users.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Jul 29, 2017 10:48 am Hmph.

Scruffy knows what we should do, but no one ever ask ol' Scruffy. We'll need to lynch the emotion poster or life will continue like this forever.

nijuukyugou wrote: ↑Sat Jul 29, 2017 12:51 am

You have until 10PM EST SUNDAY

Dom wrote: ↑Sat Jul 29, 2017 7:59 am I'm not as convinced as you are.
I didn't see a curse yesterday... and quin looks cursed today? Maybe wilgy?

Dom wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2017 8:33 am respond with the rainbow face if you can't quote people

Dom wrote: ↑Sat Jul 29, 2017 8:02 am The only two people I have available for the Woman is Ricochet and Speedchuck

Dom wrote: ↑Sat Jul 29, 2017 8:02 am The only two people I have available for the Woman is Ricochet and Speedchuck

Dom wrote: ↑Sat Jul 29, 2017 8:32 am Ricochet-- why is INH the Woman with No Face?

Speedchuck-- who is bad and why?

Ricochet wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 1:36 am P O P P Y I'm Poppy!
P O P P Y I'm Poppy!
P O P P Y I'm Poppy!
P O P P Y That's me!

nijuukyugou wrote: ↑Sun Jul 16, 2017 9:15 pm
Epignosis
insertnamehere
Long Con
speedchuck
sprityo
timmer

These men all knew Pop-pyyyy
One is clearly bad-dieeee
'Cause they won't let me be freeee
And keep stalking me

TonyStarkPrime

The Man in the Tan Jacket

Hiram McDaniels

Elohcin

Kevin

Cecil Palmer

Dr Wilgy

Kevin

Cecil Palmer

Boomslang wrote: ↑Fri Jul 28, 2017 10:09 pm TSP is not the Man in the Tan Jacket. Y'all barking up the wrong tree with that.

insertnamehere

insertnamehere wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2017 9:31 pm I don't get why Boomslang instead of Ricochet, is what I'm trying to say.

I haven't been able to post a large amount today, but, barring any sudden loss of life or perception-altering event, I'm gonna be campaigning against Ricochet during Day 6.

StrexCorp (3)

Boomslang

Dom

Epignosis

speedchuck

Politicians (3)

insertnamehere

speedchuck

sprityo

Golden

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2017 8:34 pm Ricohet...

this is super important...

...what do you think of...

....America...

...by...

...Yes?

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2017 8:27 pm Golden, as a hypothetical before day starts, what does me flipping town, or being town I should say if I die tonight, entail? What does it show towards anyone else?

I ask the same question to Dom and Rico

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2017 8:12 pm Sprityo and speedchuck are both viable candidates.

insertnamehere

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2017 7:44 pm This is a defense of Tony.

TonyStarkPrime

The Man in the Tan Jacket

LET ME POST

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2017 6:21 pm Rico, other than yourself, whose lynch would you most oppose?

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2017 5:59 pm

Ricochet wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2017 5:49 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2017 5:45 pm Although I'm less sure now than I used to be.

Well, I mean... I don't want to explain too overtly... but it's nothing you've done that makes me less sure. And you probably are what I think you are. But, don't blame me too much if I'm paranoid about role hinting when it's pretty clear you haven't picked up on mine.

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2017 5:45 pm Although I'm less sure now than I used to be.

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2017 5:39 pm rico, I know you struggle with words, but you should read some instead of relying on voting analysis. Speeds words and process around coming to that vote make him clearly not strex.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2017 5:16 pm I've never actually been able to figure out what those x-eyed faces mean on your reads, rico

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... =20&t=1373

Ricochet wrote: