The Syndicate

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Rico, I cursed you on Night 4 to use the word "seem" in every post. Why didn't you do it?

Never got such a curse.

Roxy wrote:

Spreadsheets we made for you. Two sheets linked together, first one is the questionnaire answers, the second is n/a's and votes etc.

Aah carp, even with me winning D6's challenge, the vote would have been tied, because of "Lips" double vote.

In fact, no wonder she / you killed us off one by one, you kept getting null recruiting results.

Dammit, I could have been on the winning side, if I only I were civ.

I know we're still waiting for more full results, but I'll ask anyway:

What was boo / "Lipsticklacey"'s power?
Who was "Bass" the First?
Who was "Turnip Head" the First?
Who was "Turnip Head" the Second, even?
Who is the socking MVP?

Apart from the mafia team and the obvious times I or we were hit with something, when did you use your powers and who did you use it on?

One other thing I forgot to mention was that my sock enabled for me more liberties, being more opinionated, risking to take stances that might hurt me later, arguing more directly... not to mention that having to also pretend I'm TGG allowed me to be slightly more aggressive, too (even if I tried not to abuse that).

At first "Rico" seemed lost so the recaps he made during Day 1 and such were all under my "guidance". Although later Golden said he intentionally wanted to look un-rico-like and un-golden-like. Judging from the wrong guesses, it looks like it paid off more than intense mimicking did, in my case.

Still... Me guiding "myself" on how to post like me. omfg

Finally, I answered G-Man as my idol, don't ask why. The irony just keeps flowing given that I basically had to play him a bit as well (I really asked for it, though, after my D0 pic-style banter. )

Awww and Roxy, we didn't get to the Willy Wonky question.

So everybody knew I was "Golden"?

How nice of her.

boo wrote:Ha, see Epi? Told you TH was one of the people who won the sock guess.

How did the other baddies not manage that? Did you not tell one another who you were to start with 7 right answers?

Lol no, we initially weren't allowed to reveal ourselves, then even after being allowed, me and JJJ at least were adamant to keep the fun going and not reveal ourselves (and that was way past the trivia point, anyway). This lasted until Roxy came in the thread and, despite all my protests, talked to us addressing us by our real names.

Nice runner up spot, TH, but who was the top beast with 14 guesses?

I only guessed 5, lol.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Golden 2 wrote:

Bass 2 wrote:

Golden 2 wrote:

Bass 2 wrote:Your case is that a Mafia Seemer walked the line of getting mod killed JUST to set you up for a lynch?

After Days of playing it safe and subtle? Sure, why not switch gears. Besides, it's also very easy to dupe you all by being so brazen and thus look like the real deal. But his fail is forgetting this isn't home turf, this is another forum. Check back my Mordechai game in Biblical (although that sock is now probably changed into one of the socks here, lol), if it pleases you, and see if you can trace any sign of me going overboard this much during it. I can play hard ball, but I'm still aware on which site I am and am aware of minimum etiquette.

"His" fail is forgetting this isn't home turf. How do you know who "he" is, if boo 2 was a seemer? If I recall correctly there are many female players on this site, so how do you know it's a "he" to begin with?

"boo" is male sock. "His".

I also should have realized from this post that Golden 2 was Ricochet. :P

But that wasn't a gender slip!

XthAtGAm3RGuYX wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

XthAtGAm3RGuYX wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Did you enjoy me going all TGG on your ass?

I dont even know what this means lol

I nabbed some sprites from your photobucket to make a case on the player who "seemed" to be you. I thought it was appropiate.

oh yeah i forgot about that one.

Ricochet shouldve used my Mia Fey sprites. I use those in defense of myself or others. Von Karma is my attack set

I never made use of them, I think, when I could post normally. Sorry. Researching this to the point of playing a second freaking sock accurately would have probably damaged my brain. Luckily I could sort of "transpose" them into pictures and such, because I was more often challenged than not, during my Seemergate days. I blended several characters with the pictures, not just Mia Fey and Von Karma.

One other thing I tried to do was pretend, as TGG, that I'd be actually interested in roleplaying Golden without breaking character. I knew it was very forced, given that you yourself would probably don't give two s's about it, but the others seems to have baited it, so it also helped me from really having to act as TGG that much.

When I was killed, I quickly scrambled for some reaction gif and a bit more rough language, but after I was brought back, I tried to supress "TGG" and act casual.

RadicalFuzz wrote:
Rico if there's one thing I'm going to parade around until everyone's sick of it, this is it. Where had "That Goofy Clown" been referenced on Syndicate before?

No idea. I knew it'd end my fake career, but I just couldn't look it up anymore.

XthAtGAm3RGuYX wrote:

Ricochet wrote: Or maybe a lesson to learn. But I don't feel it was a quality over quantity lesson. I damn well had the quality. Even TGG found it in his heart to give me a clap for it.

Oh wait you were Golden 2? I couldve sworn that was somebody that I personally knew. Seemed like people around here arent as painfully into video games as my common circle of mafia players. So when somebody caught all the MGS2 quotes, one of the most controversial and somewhat least liked game in the series, I was positive you were somebody I was familiar with.

Mildly disappointed nobody caught the breadcrumbs I left to my real identity behind the sock. I knew I had to do something like that once you flipped as me.

Still though, kudos for the videos. One of these days I will learn video editing.

Well the quotes were the easiest bit to trace. As soon as you posted the train stations list, in sync with finally understand what a seemer does, I googled and then holy fuck TGG is after me. I did the research afterwards and played with the info.

Nobody catching on to that was good for me. For a while, at least. Actually I expected you to come way harder at me, to the point of being angry and trying to break rules in order to signal that I am full of shit. Dunno why this feeling, but lol.

The video edits means to mix things into Windows Maker, it's really nothing. What I'm more experienced with is audio editing, since I'm a musician (although even here I'm no tech / audiophile guy, I just like to press the keys and make sum musik ), which is why for the Codec video I tracked down the actual piece (which wasn't easy) that was playing during the Colonel's ramblings and edited it into my video, so that it wouldn't seem fake, cut and such, despite being otherwise obvious that I added new written content and montaged several sequences (the jap girl moves repeat often because I didn't have enough blank material). Well at least I hope it sounded like it was still pieced together, but oh well...

Turnip Head wrote:Admit it, my "HIMYM gaffe" theory was bulletproof

lol no. G-Man used it for any occasion, including his own civilian death (although that is understandable). Nobody listened to you on that, anyway.

Also, you wouldn't have touched me with real hunt. You didn't succeed one Day earlier, after all - you didn't even vote for me, I would have had all the weapons to call flip-flop on you. "boo"'s flip was the single factor that changed things dramatically.

linki - true dat

Turnip Head wrote:

Ricochet wrote:

Turnip Head wrote:

Ricochet wrote: -- Day 3. TH and whoever else cursed me, if you think you burned me good, then let me tell it was among the best experiences I've had. I've had to play as Golden, TGG (was already "seemed"), G-Man (because of the pictures) AND DrWilgy (because of the challenge to post like him - which I just paraphrased into an inner grotesque-humoresque story), at the same time. How's that for eclecticism! Loved it - even if it was all for naught...

I picked you (and everyone else) for those challenges with the expectation that you would rock it. Lacey 2 of course had to keep undermining my efforts, so I was happy to see him lose the alphabet challenge to Cobalt 2 :P

As for the second challenge you had: I won't argue that the effort wasn't there on your part, and that it was a close vote, and that I suspected you... but I watched the entirety of that llama video, and I was laughing my ass off.

If you say it was a close vote, then it's still a problem for me, because it can be extremely demoralising. After all, if one can sometimes win with 2 posts, why should one struggle to do so (and fail) with 200...

Or maybe a lesson to learn. But I don't feel it was a quality over quantity lesson. I damn well had the quality. Even TGG found it in his heart to give me a clap for it.

You should thank me for cursing you that day; otherwise I would have tried to pivot that lynch off of boo 2 and onto you :P

I'm happy with the way I played my role. The challenge was to amuse me, so I'm fine with the decision I made. I enjoyed your vids as well. And I don't blame MM2 for not posting more that phase, it was an ugly thread at that point.

happy is what you have to be happy with

You did enough, anyway. You took my vote away and voted "boo" over "Cookie" last second. I never once imagined I wouldn't get to keep my vote and, together with "Scotty"s +2 on "Cookie", seal the deal.

Turnip Head wrote:

Ricochet wrote: -- Day 3. TH and whoever else cursed me, if you think you burned me good, then let me tell it was among the best experiences I've had. I've had to play as Golden, TGG (was already "seemed"), G-Man (because of the pictures) AND DrWilgy (because of the challenge to post like him - which I just paraphrased into an inner grotesque-humoresque story), at the same time. How's that for eclecticism! Loved it - even if it was all for naught...

I picked you (and everyone else) for those challenges with the expectation that you would rock it. Lacey 2 of course had to keep undermining my efforts, so I was happy to see him lose the alphabet challenge to Cobalt 2 :P

As for the second challenge you had: I won't argue that the effort wasn't there on your part, and that it was a close vote, and that I suspected you... but I watched the entirety of that llama video, and I was laughing my ass off.

If you say it was a close vote, then it's still a problem for me, because it can be extremely demoralising. After all, if one can sometimes win with 2 posts, why should one struggle to do so (and fail) with 200...

Or maybe a lesson to learn. But I don't feel it was a quality over quantity lesson. I damn well had the quality. Even TGG found it in his heart to give me a clap for it.

Turnip Head wrote:My least favorite part was getting blitz lynched in 30 seconds

You're welcome.

Well I wasn't ready for this to end tonight (was excepting 3 vs 1 lylo tomorrow), but here's the concession recap.

The Good
-- The winners. Congrats to them. boo dupes everyone again with strong gameplay and taking command over the dynamic, no surprise there after Death Note.
-- This game. Amazing in its challenge and results, overall.
-- The Hostesses. Great in every way and terrific to have around. Plus, I understand they said something about, except a runner-up competition from DrWilgy, me being their favourite player with whom they had contact...? That's gotta be a reward in itself.
-- Surviving a phase as an outed seemer. Going from certain kill to NO votes taken. Nothing else worked out for us, but this has to feel good. Also, you should have seen Golden and JJJ constantly ready to buss me, only to congratulate me at the end of that Day for the bewildering result.
-- The irony of me playing Golden and Golden playing me and being together on the same team. Hostesses say it was purely random, but I ain't buying it.
-- Speaking of, at least Golden didn't win.
-- Oh, at least MM didn't win either.
-- The team that was there. Eloh and BR, it had a great time playing with you. As for my trio with Golden and JJJ, let us meet again and make it work next time, gentlemen.
-- My teammates not figuring out who I was, except for Black Rock ("Scotty"), but she spotted me dun goofing in a Chat she created in Recruitement, probably. And perhaps boo? Idk, I dun goofed in Gladiators twice as well.
-- Not being figured out by anyone else, either... he says in his wishful thinking...
-- My sock. I literally freaked out when I was delegated to play Golden, because of time issues and not being prepared one bit to adopt his persona. But until I had to start adopting other socks as well (see slightly below) or just lose grip on it (late in my game), I tried to emulate him as best as possible. Of course I collected as much meta as possible - I'll just copy some of it here
-- Day 3. TH and whoever else cursed me, if you think you burned me good, then let me tell it was among the best experiences I've had. I've had to play as Golden, TGG (was already "seemed"), G-Man (because of the pictures) AND DrWilgy (because of the challenge to post like him - which I just paraphrased into an inner grotesque-humoresque story), at the same time. How's that for eclecticism! Loved it - even if it was all for naught...

The Bad
-- That I lost, of course. In fact, I'm now 0/2 in the last three games I plan to play. I only have Talking Heads left.
-- The team constantly getting rekt by the recruit killer. And then the blocker, cop and so forth. Oh well.
-- Golden's lamenting in BTSC. Not to mention, his predictions coming true, as well.
-- The outbursts in the game. Let's not ever go back there again.
-- The seemer. F this role. I handled it as best as I could, without any experience (obviously I wasn't that mad to go search for TGG's Crazy Clown meta from two freaking months ago, so at that point I basically conceded), but me no likey.
-- The mafia slackers. I'm sorry, but we were seven. SEVEN. And in the end, after "LC" (Eloh) died, it felt like we were only three. And then we were just three. And then... And then... BR I can understand, since she couldn't balance hosting and playing, but we also lost "Wilgy", who had become a second seemer and "Blooper" as a protector. I think BR said in BTSC that Bass is a beast to have as teammate, but sorry, I didn't see any of this. And Lacey, as far as I understand, was the only player who was delegated mafia because she asked or stated such preferenced. Disappointing.
-- Losing the Day-whatever-it-was challenge (the video one). I've talked to the Hosts and I apologise for bringing it up, but the way I still see it, I lost to bias and it also happened to drive the mafia's game into near ruin (TGG flipping as the real player and tracker and thus sending me to the grave, etc.) The seemer story / possibility was in the open already, "rey"/TH himself suspected me all along, so losing after two days of efforts to "MM" cracking a llama (oh the irony!) vid joke was desolating and felt rigged. I don't know if this is true, but this is how it feels. If your choice was genuine and unbiased, TH, then you still broke my heart. It stands for me as a glitch in the Challenger's role design, which is why I think that normally the decider should be third party. Since TH already had info (and suss) on me, compared to the first challenge (which I won), I regard this second challenge as having had no chance to earn his sympathy anymore. All in the past, but just want to share this, for future reflection on how to let players be the judge of others, especially if dynamic and perception can change.
-- Losing my shit on D7 and using the Day end, although we discussed in private that, should things go south, we'll preserve it. But nope - after we lost "Scotty"/BR on D6, the recruit killed "SVS"/JJJ and I suddenly saw red in front of my eyes. I even did a terrible move voting/lynching "rey"/TH, whom we blocked that Night, trying to figure out if he's the killer. It wouldn't have made any sense to push that lynch anymore, since the kill went through. Anyway, dumb and costly and it was 98% over afterwards for us. Props to the real, worthy Golden toughing it out a few more Days.
-- Unanimously lynched, oops.

I'm sure there's more, but I'm too tired right now.

Golden 2 is cleaned (inbox at least, password and other stuff is up to you, Hosties ).

A recruit winning team of three? Dayum.

Turnip Head wrote:

Ricochet wrote:

Golden wrote:Ricochet?

I hate myself.

Maybe thellama73 then, since he hates you too.

No comment on that one.

Golden wrote:Ricochet?

I hate myself.

Turnip Head wrote:

Ricochet wrote:

Golden wrote:

fingersplints wrote:Both trivia have been answered.

The answers are:

Spoiler: show

SVS and

What does it say about me that I answered both of those. Am I in touch with the common man?

I also answered , but not SVS.



Anyone care to guess who I picked?

Metalmarsh89?

Nah.

Golden wrote:

fingersplints wrote:Both trivia have been answered.

The answers are:

Spoiler: show

SVS and

What does it say about me that I answered both of those. Am I in touch with the common man?

I also answered , but not SVS.



Anyone care to guess who I picked?

fingersplints wrote:The Sock 2 prize has been awarded.

I said Mafia Idol 2 was closed, but I'm feeling generous and will open it back up for a second guess since no one has won it. Golden, Long Con, and Epignosis are all great guesses for mafia idol, but they are NOT the Mafia Idol I am looking for. This person was selected by 5 people as their mafia idol!!!

I doubt it's me...