Dammit.Epignosis wrote:The Day 0 poll determined the peek Kevin got.
Well, if there's one thing I wrote down as a possible signal and it turned out to be true, it was Llama voting himself in that poll (Mom).
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Dammit.Epignosis wrote:The Day 0 poll determined the peek Kevin got.
My criterias eligibility are pretty simple:Scotty wrote: I've never seen the Notebook, and I hope I never have to.
Definitely not according to this game. And my reads were in the wrong direction, so you had all the weapons to take advantage. Civs leading civs astray is the definition of baddie win.Scotty wrote:And Rico, we didn't realllly want you to go, because you were practically our cheerleader early on when Draco and LC started coming down from the attic, so to speak.
But knowing you, you could figure it out eventually and turn it right around against us. Your death really was a decision based on how active you were and how your reads could lead everyone astray. Really, your downfall is that you are a good player.
Firstly, gut tells me with close to full certainty the two bandits are spread among the D2 vote/non-vote camps.Scotty wrote:Yo @Elo, i wanna know who your lead running back is in suspicion today.
And @Rico, which scenario among the ones you listed sounds more plausible?
Unfortunately, I feel it could be anyone; the bandits may have even gone different ways. Eloh, you and I were pretty determined to test the red peek. Draco said he'd consider other options just as much, but then I don't even recall him coming back till EoD. As you say, Scotty and llama could have easily distanced: Scotty locked on Enrique pretty quick; Llama could have cooked for us the "I told you so" speech, but right now I'm not feeling it entirely. Sprityo's take on MM was kinda lax and he "took interest" in voting Scotty for unstated reasons. Then there's DFaraday and Enrique, who missed the Day completely.Long Con wrote:Sorry, Marsh! Ok, Scotty and Llama are my top suspects now. Baddies knew Metalmarsh was going to flip Civ, and avoided voting him. Llama already said he's going after Metalmarsh voters if he flipped Civ.
lolthellama73 wrote:Draconus, I don't know you. What's your deal?
That is hardly the main issue concerning MM (although, for me personally, his loose D1 vote is indeed a partial issue as well).thellama73 wrote:
I don't think baddie MM would come out gunning for me on Day 1 with no provocation. It's not his style. He would be more subtle.
I see a bit of contradiction here. Wilgy made false statements to protect himself, but wasn't direct enough in his statements towards lynching you for the peek to be genuine. How would he have protected himself by going all out bark on you, wording and all? I think the insinuations in his statements were clear enough: only one [baddie] shall be left standing if we lynch you.Metalmarsh89 wrote:DrWilgy wrote:MM is my friend but we must duel to the death, so him
PULLDrWilgy wrote:Lol, why did I ping? I am MM's friend this is true, but we must fight to the death for the greater good. Only one shall be left standing!Yeah, he was the cop. But does this look like the attitude of a cop who knows they've nabbed a baddie?DrWilgy wrote:There can be only one.
No, I'm pretty sure that he was trying to protect himself from getting nightkilled by offering a false statement, and nothing else. Not once did DrWilgy state that I was mafia or scum or even a hoo ha. Note that "We must fight to the death for the greater good", not "You must die for the greater good" or something of the sort. The word selection is key here.
I fake-claimed to smokescreen, but ended up killing the real cop, so nevermind me, I'm in spaghetti spill mode right now.Scotty wrote:Well I know for certain that Rico was fake-claiming. Is that a cause for a vote? I don't honestly see a good reason right now to claim anything for real. But I'm glad you hopped on my train early on. What are you thinking about now, @Enrique?Enrique wrote:I was originally gonna make a post to explain why I was gonna vote Long Con, but the more I went into it, the more I realized what he's actually saying. I don't think he's withholding any info that the rest of us aren't (which is to say, our roles). Llama laid the bait and it looked like LC was ready to take it to prey on Scotty, but what if he just knew he was fake-claiming?
Right now that's good enough for me. Scotty.
BTSC interception is not in the roles, though.Scotty wrote:lol in a previous game I played on Mafia Universe, the locals there use "peek" ad infinitum to describe role-checking.Long Con wrote:To me, this is effectively: 4) Kevin will gdfhk before Day 1 begins. On ensuing night periods, the cop may select another player to role-check.Epignosis wrote:4) Kevin will peek before Day 1 begins. On ensuing night periods, the cop may select another player to role-check.Ricochet wrote:Host: Does the Cop receive a random D0 peek? Also, can he receive a D0 peek of any kind or only a civilian one?
The only other thing I can think of is maybe peeking at BTSC between the bandits? Because after all, he does so in the movie before they even arrive.
Will what now?Long Con wrote:To me, this is effectively: 4) Kevin will gdfhk before Day 1 begins. On ensuing night periods, the cop may select another player to role-check.Epignosis wrote:4) Kevin will peek before Day 1 begins. On ensuing night periods, the cop may select another player to role-check.Ricochet wrote:Host: Does the Cop receive a random D0 peek? Also, can he receive a D0 peek of any kind or only a civilian one?
Well, I said I wouldn't stay up late, but who am I kidding, lol. Having a hard time interpreting your voters, because it's hard to understand either of them's actions as a risk taken as baddies. Between LC and Enrique I could see LC being the tricksterer and I agree Enrique gives the slight sense of surfing (plus, as I've told him, I don't really get the throwback to Tree Mafia he's pointing at). There's more substantial claims to consider beneath LC's wording, but again, he could also ably handle a bluff with it.Scotty wrote:@Rico
Who are you thinking of voting? Because unless the low posters show up soon, I will probably be voting to save myself.
What about MM's vote for Llama or DF's self-vote?Scotty wrote: I still don't like Wilgy's vote for MM, and I especially don't like LC's vote for me.
I believe there can be more depth to heist plays than "fake claiming = baddie (because I know so)".Enrique wrote:I was originally gonna make a post to explain why I was gonna vote Long Con, but the more I went into it, the more I realized what he's actually saying. I don't think he's withholding any info that the rest of us aren't (which is to say, our roles). Llama laid the bait and it looked like LC was ready to take it to prey on Scotty, but what if he just knew he was fake-claiming?
Right now that's good enough for me. Scotty.
Very well, let's rewind and go over again through your posts, because I'm not inventing any situation other than what said posts have generated.Long Con wrote:Sounds to me like you are inventing a problem to give yourself an excuse to vote someone on Day 1. Can you possibly give me the last sentence in your quote here again? I think there was some error and I'm not 100% sure I understand the meaning of it. I think you are saying that voting for Scotty because I find his Buzz claim suspicious makes me Mafia, but that sentence is just a little jinky.Ricochet wrote:Why are you generalizing? Yes, at first I asked for some thought process or tactic behind your vote, but you dispelled that angle. Right now, the problem lies in the fact that you voted and you are openly keeping the reasoning to yourself, as shown in that quote. Reasoning your vote sounds likely play mafia playing to me.
Long Con wrote:I'm not withholding any information.
Long Con wrote: my reasons for voting Scotty are my own for now
There's nothing in the roles supporting your "slightly-greater-than-zero-information" claim. Also, we're running on a tight Day phase, so why hold your voting reasons for yourself?Long Con wrote:I have basically the same answer, my reasons for voting Scotty are my own for now. I will say that I'm not voting him for some fishing ploy. He's my slightly-greater-than-zero-information top suspect.
...thellama73 wrote:It's way too early for me to say I really suspect Scotty. I was just testing his response.Ricochet wrote:Same question as to llama. Any reason to suspect Scotty for foul claiming?Long Con wrote:So you are saying you're Buzz. Interesting. Let's see if the votes are truly moveable. ScottyScotty wrote:God I hate Kevin. I wish I could feed him to my tarantula
Scotty wrote:Ricochet wrote:Say, I bet you want to find your tarantula in one piece, when you come back home, don't ya?Scotty wrote:Even if I were implying as such, why vote Buzz? He's still part of the family. We really should be voting all the Kevin claimers. And there's a lot of them. What good has Kevin ever done for the family?Long Con wrote:So you are saying you're Buzz. Interesting. Let's see if the votes are truly moveable. ScottyScotty wrote:God I hate Kevin. I wish I could feed him to my tarantula
Say, I bet you want to find your tarantula in one piece, when you come back home, don't ya?Scotty wrote:Even if I were implying as such, why vote Buzz? He's still part of the family. We really should be voting all the Kevin claimers. And there's a lot of them. What good has Kevin ever done for the family?Long Con wrote:So you are saying you're Buzz. Interesting. Let's see if the votes are truly moveable. ScottyScotty wrote:God I hate Kevin. I wish I could feed him to my tarantula
Firstly, I didn't call llama "mellow", I called the hook he launched as such. Then, with the underlined sentence you are either literally defining how "fishing reactions" works or I am slightly confused by what you mean to point out.Elohcin wrote:I wouldn't call him mellow. I would expect more predictable with his first eyeballs. Kind-of seemed like he was waiting for someone to bite on one of his eyes and make a suspicion out of it. But I could be wrong.Ricochet wrote:
---I'd classify it as mellow on the Llama Loony Fishing Spectrum. Do you feel civvie llama would be zanier or more predictable with his first eyeballs?Elohcin wrote:HI guys. Sorry I am just now checking in. I know I missed all of Day 0. But as you saw, our day has been super nutty.
This is so true.Long Con wrote:How you feel about your family is a complicated thing.thellama73 wrote:Hi everybody! Why does Scotty hate Kevin? Is he a baddie?
I don't have any pings yet, but Llama seems to be fishing hard with his nit-picking eyes. What do you all think?
Epignosis wrote:It is now Day 1.
This is what my day has been like.
I'd classify it as mellow on the Llama Loony Fishing Spectrum. Do you feel civvie llama would be zanier or more predictable with his first eyeballs?Elohcin wrote:HI guys. Sorry I am just now checking in. I know I missed all of Day 0. But as you saw, our day has been super nutty.
This is so true.Long Con wrote:How you feel about your family is a complicated thing.thellama73 wrote:Hi everybody! Why does Scotty hate Kevin? Is he a baddie?
I don't have any pings yet, but Llama seems to be fishing hard with his nit-picking eyes. What do you all think?
Same question as to llama. Any reason to suspect Scotty for foul claiming?Long Con wrote:So you are saying you're Buzz. Interesting. Let's see if the votes are truly moveable. ScottyScotty wrote:God I hate Kevin. I wish I could feed him to my tarantula
Why?DrWilgy wrote:MM is my friend but we must duel to the death, so him
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Enrique wrote:Hmm.
Llama, did you take Scotty's comment ad litteram or is there any reason you suspect him to have faked a hint as a baddie?thellama73 wrote:Hi everybody! Why does Scotty hate Kevin? Is he a baddie?