The Syndicate

I'm so glad that worked out so well!

I am voting pie because I like it better than cake.

Where's the rest of the votes? SVS? Snowman? Ty?

Black Rock wrote:

Zomberella12 wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

Zomberella12 wrote:Whatever. Voting Long Con. Llama, you better not be messing with me.

I assure you, I'm not.

SVS, Snowman, does this sound real to you?

Why are you relying on Snowman's opinion after stating you might vote him?

I have to vote now and I am going to with TySlayer this time. Sorry, I didn't have a lot of time to think about this game today I got caught up in the other one.

I just want his opinion. I won't necessarily rely on it.

thellama73 wrote:

Zomberella12 wrote:Whatever. Voting Long Con. Llama, you better not be messing with me.

I assure you, I'm not.

SVS, Snowman, does this sound real to you?

Whatever. Voting Long Con. Llama, you better not be messing with me.

thellama73 wrote:

Zomberella12 wrote:I think I'm starting to see how this game is different than normal mafia. The BTSC is usually only a mafia power so people are hesitant to "defend" each other.

So this round I do have BTSC but the other member of my civ group is functionally non existent, so I'm not gonna get any endorsements this round. I did want to lunch Ty, but now I'm leaning more toward Snowman. He just posts so little and I can never get a read on him. LC, all your posts sound suspicious to me so I doubt know if you ate bad or if I'm biased.

Personally, I think it would be smarter of you to lunch Long Con. Unless of course you are bad this round.

I REALLY want to lunch Long Con but I'm worried after my mistake with Russ.

EBWOP: don't know if you are good

I think I'm starting to see how this game is different than normal mafia. The BTSC is usually only a mafia power so people are hesitant to "defend" each other.

So this round I do have BTSC but the other member of my civ group is functionally non existent, so I'm not gonna get any endorsements this round. I did want to lunch Ty, but now I'm leaning more toward Snowman. He just posts so little and I can never get a read on him. LC, all your posts sound suspicious to me so I doubt know if you ate bad or if I'm biased.

Long Con wrote:Also, Zomberella, when I came after you last round with a 'weak' case, it was because my BTSC partner said that he and some old teammates had a Roxy-approved secret code going on, and I think he said that you and S~V~S were baddies according to it. I mad eup some stuff about my own deductions based on letters, etc... but then Russ got lynched. I really expected the code-people to follow along with what I said and come after you then, so I don't know what happened with that. You were bad then, right?

I don't totally trust you so I'm going to plead the fifth. However, I was part of a pact that now isn't really going to work because there's only two of us left.

I was also bad for one day and one night, but I am good again. For realz. Maybe we are all taking turns being bad. So, who is bad now? Someone who was cool with killing FZ, so not SVS or Llama I would think. No me (obviously) or Bass, or Ty, so we're left with BR, LC, and Snowman. Snowman's post was particularly long and jovial today. That makes me think that he's trying to hide something. I'm fine lunching him. But that's not really fair since BR and LC aren't really saying anything at all.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Snowman wrote:Down another civvie, this does not bode well for us. I'm scared to say anything, FZ had her super-secret spreadsheets, and she got killed for it!

Let me be first to welcome our anthropomorphic overlords Wasatch and Hunger and....Pestilence (I don't remember who's left).

MovingPictures07 wrote:

thellama73 wrote:In fairness to the players, and with the greatest love and respect to Roxy, the mechanics of the game sort of inevitably set up arguments like this.

I for one have loved every second of playing this game and watching it now that I'm dead. Perhaps my favorite speed game I have ever played. and I mean it.

My favorite game so far for sure!

S~V~S wrote:Go away dead, civvie murderer.

When it is dead people talk on topic daywe will call you

Voted *a* because I like to vote the letter at the top.

Russtifinko wrote:Well shit, I had a big 'ol defense post lined up, but I thought this lunch ended tomorrow. Guess moving and going out of town really did mess with my sense of timing. My bad for that.



Zombs, can we assume that I took you up on your bet and that you owe me $20?

Going to try to say this without affecting the game for players still alive:

thellama73 wrote:There seems to be some confusion about this, so let me clear it up.

If you're going to say things like "Russ definitely has to be bad" you better be able to back it up with voting record analysis or in-thread info.

If secret info is the reason you think that, then don't say it. Make an actual case based on publicly available info.

Jesus Christ.

FZ. wrote:I expected Donners to come in and prevent this lynch and I think I was pretty clear about it. This lynch is on their hands.

Zomberella12 wrote:Okay, there are three baddies out there that all got defended. Unless they are all in cahoots, there are civvies out there ago are defending baddies and not defending civvies (ie Russ). Come on people, what are you doing!?!

llama is right, FZ. and Zombs are dead wrong. To me there is absolutely no grey area there. I don't want to play any more mafia games where people think it's civs' responsibility to reveal info or vouch for each other, and I do only want to play mafia that is based on casebuilding and publicly available info.

I will be quitting any future games in which people infodump.

Sure - the check is in the mail

I'm still new at this and apparently still unclear about some things. If I learn something from BTSC and it makes me want to vote for a specific person, then I can't vote for that person without finding evidence against them in the thread? I see why this would be good. But it also sets up a situation where someone could refuse to post and then expect to be safe from lynching because there wasn't anything in any of their posts to convict them. It's also a rule that no one has been following - lots of people said things like "I trust so and so" or "I don't trust so and so" without any explanation. I really did think you were bad. Sorry I was wrong.

linki - Without vouching, doesn't the game just turn into random luck?

Snowman wrote:

Zomberella12 wrote:Okay, there are three baddies out there that all got defended. Unless they are all in cahoots, there are civvies out there ago are defending baddies and not defending civvies (ie Russ). Come on people, what are you doing!?!

Who defended Black Rock?

Oh...um...erm...maybe no one. Hey! Black Rock! Dang it!

Okay, there are three baddies out there that all got defended. Unless they are all in cahoots, there are civvies out there ago are defending baddies and not defending civvies (ie Russ). Come on people, what are you doing!?!

Can we please see a photo of the poll? Sorry I'm on my phone and I don't know to do a screen shot.

Obviously there are some pacts out there because someone has to be bad! Everyone can't be good!

What!?!?! Oh no! Now I feel bad. RIP Russ.

Linki: no kidding

FZ. wrote:Unless Russ is a Donner, he has to be bad

My thoughts exactly!

Long Con wrote:Actually, I might be up for a zomberella lynch. I've been looking at the original letters and made a couple of assumptions based on the night polls , and I may have a pattern to follow. It points to Z and one other player as likely baddies based on what I know, and eliminating roles who have died.

That's convenient and weak. A secret pattern that only you know that points to me? Who is the other one that it points to?

TySlayer wrote:Llama was too quick to trust FZ. I don't trust either of them, and if llama is actually saying FZs posts are HELPFUL, then there's trouble afoot.

I wish we could lunch you!

Zomberella12 wrote:

thellama73 wrote:Well, Russ may well be bad, but my gut is still saying Zombrella, so I'm placing my vote there.

You and your guy need to just take it easy! I'm willing to bet money on Russ' evility.

Agggh! No more playing from my phone. You and your gut! Maybe you guy needs to too. :P

thellama73 wrote:Well, Russ may well be bad, but my gut is still saying Zombrella, so I'm placing my vote there.

You and your guy need to just take it easy! I'm willing to bet money on Russ' evility.

FZ. wrote:

Zomberella12 wrote:@Snowman- I don't think your vote for Bass makes any sense.

Neither do I

So who are you going to vote for?

@Snowman- I don't think your vote for Bass makes any sense.

Zomberella12 wrote: I don't get how my role rotation would affect my civviness.

I said this wrong. I do get it.

Zomberella12 wrote:

thellama73 wrote:So BR, LC and I all exerienced the same rotation pattern. FZ's was different, and no one else has said. I'm less inclined to vote people who share my rotation pattern, so that leaves BAss, FZ, Russ, and Zombrella.

I don't get how my role rotation would affect my civviness. But based on the rotation pattern of my family I would suspect Russ, LC, Ty and BR. The only one that overlaps is Russ. I really like FZs analysis and I think they help the civs. She helped us find Blooper and Rico. Right now I want to vote for Russ.

I mean Trice, not Rico.

thellama73 wrote:So BR, LC and I all exerienced the same rotation pattern. FZ's was different, and no one else has said. I'm less inclined to vote people who share my rotation pattern, so that leaves BAss, FZ, Russ, and Zombrella.

I don't get how my role rotation would affect my civviness. But based on the rotation pattern of my family I would suspect Russ, LC, Ty and BR. The only one that overlaps is Russ. I really like FZs analysis and I think they help the civs. She helped us find Blooper and Rico. Right now I want to vote for Russ.

Russtifinko wrote:And why is the poll so short?

Hey, yeah! Why is the poll so short. I'm not seeing Llama, Snowman, or Ty. What's going on here? Secret secrets make me crazy

FZ. wrote:

Snowman wrote:

Zomberella12 wrote:

Bass_the_Clever wrote:I do trust ty.

Hmmm.....fine. But what if you both are baddies?

My thoughts exactly.

I doubt it. While they may rotate next round, if they're working together, chances are only one of them will, and that would leave then other one as a known baddie to the other. At this stage, I think the best option for the two baddies, is to go after one another, especially if they don't have the power of one dying before the other. That way, if they get the other killed, chances of them rotating to a civ role are higher, and they improve the civvies condition (and their own).

I wonder if that is why Blooper got NKed? Maybe she rotated to a civ role and then Freemont was vulnerable.

@ liniki: Yes, share pleez.

Is there anyway to know if the "lunch bounces off me and sticks on you" power is still in play and who might have it? (RIP Splints)

Bass_the_Clever wrote:I do trust ty.

Hmmm.....fine. But what if you both are baddies?

@FZ - I get your theory about Russ. Plus he seemed a little upset about the game turning into a 'who-defends-who' situation. That would make sense if he was Hunger and didn't have anyone to defend him. (Other than a pact - which I think was suggested by MP on the thread).

I'm still waiting to find out if Bloops was Wasatch or a civvie? That will tell us how many baddies are left.

thellama73 wrote:I'm probably going to be looking @Ty and Zombrella today. Ty feels like he is being led (which may not mean much because of all the civ BTSC) and Zombrella seems too eager to assume a leadership role.

Is that just cause I like to vote early? I'm just trying to kill baddies. I'm fine lunching Ty this round. We have so little information on him. Someone said that he's playing like a newbie baddie. That makes sense.

Wha...? So what role was she? I was sure that Bloops was Wasatch before the roles changed but now that she was killed by Freemont Pass, huh?

S~V~S wrote:

Zomberella12 wrote:

S~V~S wrote:Went with 4 again, although this time i was hoping for 8.

You were hoping for 8? Does that mean that you wanted to be killed?

By the by, this is what I do when I'm trying to figure out how to play this game. I can't even remember which roles/powers are alive and which are dead.

No it means 8 is my favorite number. It is known.

Should I be afraid of dying?

I have no reason to think that you should. I didn't know that you liked 8.

Snowman wrote:

nijuukyugou wrote:What.

I don't even...

I don't even know what's happening anymore. But I guess I never did.

Voting 7, because I love 7, no matter how mainstream it is :P And then I'm going to bed to play Sporcle and go to bed.

Lies, LIES! A web of liiiiiiies.
You don't know how or why you're still alive?

Hold up Snowman. Are you really confused? You said that you were and now you seem to be calling out Blooper for saying the same thing.

Also, I voted 4 because I like to pick the top one.

S~V~S wrote:Went with 4 again, although this time i was hoping for 8.

You were hoping for 8? Does that mean that you wanted to be killed?

By the by, this is what I do when I'm trying to figure out how to play this game. I can't even remember which roles/powers are alive and which are dead.

Oh! Oh no!

Bass_the_Clever wrote:wow looks like we are voting blooper.

How do you feel about that?

TySlayer wrote:Hmmm... I'm voting for nijuuoku. He doesn't post enough, and what little he does post is cryptic and secretive. Plus I'm pretty sure he was the one who sent those emoticons after my message.

Speaking of not posting enough...

Hey wait! Why is MP still on the poll? Did he come back to life?

Russtifinko wrote:I guess I need to vote now as I'll be gone until lunch time. Going with Bloops. She has 2 votes and so is more likely to be actually lunched than Zombs, and I'd like more time to think about Zombs because I may be biased against her, like I said.

I did suspect you before the role switch, but now I don't.

thellama73 wrote:Voting for Zombrella. I feel like she has been directing the thread a lot more today, and I sense manipulation.

linki FZ: Yeah, sorry. Work has been really busy lately. I'll try to do better tomorrow. I don't know how Roxy would handle that. We should ask her.

linki again: I just told you.

What the ... Llama!?! Unbelivable! I can't belive you voted for me. Somebody told me that it would be easy to lunch me because I post so much but I never thought that you would lead an attack against a teammate after what happened to you earlier.

Not me. Yikes.

fingersplints wrote:Well day 1 ninja voted LC and bass voted epi. day 2 bass voted LC and ninja voted Russ

So based on votes I'd say ninja is Epis teammate and bass is trice's. Thoughts?

I agree that TySlayer is not a threat. Between Bass and Ninja, I'm much more inclined vote for Ninja. In fact, I'm going to do that now.

Snowman wrote:

Zomberella12 wrote:Snowman - I think you might be wrong about Splints. What do you think about Blooper?

@Bass and BR - Do you have any opinions about NinjaBloops?

I have no idea about the Karate Squid, he says like two words a day...

...also, I haven't read anything he's posted.

Yeah...really sparse and bland posts. Not much info. Sounds like Bloops might be a bad guy trying to fly (or swim?) under the radar.

Snowman - I think you might be wrong about Splints. What do you think about Blooper?

@Bass and BR - Do you have any opinions about NinjaBloops?