The Syndicate

Allison Taylor wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:26 pm I've been defending myself since you guys started a wagon on me Bart, I'm not sure what you want from me.

Allison Taylor wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:24 pm

Bart Simpson wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:23 pm

Allison Taylor wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:21 pm

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:20 pm Not sure lol. I think it's NAI in a vaccum, leaning towards a calculated play so wolfy. Like it's townie when they don't care about dying, you can't convince me she doesn't. And town her would always care.

What the hell are you talking about, I'm self-pressing. I care about dying and have been trying to convince you all I'm not scum for the last 15 minutes.

You waited until this moment to do this...

I don't like CFDs. As any alignment. I've said it over and over, and it's a very well known part of my meta that I absolutely despise them and think they're anti town. I'm only doing this one because it's to save my own life.

Allison Taylor wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:21 pm

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:20 pm Not sure lol. I think it's NAI in a vaccum, leaning towards a calculated play so wolfy. Like it's townie when they don't care about dying, you can't convince me she doesn't. And town her would always care.

What the hell are you talking about, I'm self-pressing. I care about dying and have been trying to convince you all I'm not scum for the last 15 minutes.

Mr. Burns wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:14 pm

Spoiler: show

Bart Simpson wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:12 pm

Allison Taylor wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:09 pm

Bart Simpson wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:08 pm

Allison Taylor wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:05 pm

Bart Simpson wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:02 pm Your take day 1 was Otto/Krusty both villagers. Is my memory bad?
You backed up their reciprocal TRs

Correct, it was clear that they knew each other and had strong meta reasons to townread each other, and at the time they both looked pretty townie with good entrances + tone, so I was willing to let it slide. Obviously that's changed and now I think one of them is scum.

Is happening that you ignore 2 scums in this process and give me alternate Poe 1 of 2 players who can be never checked until endgame.
This is fmpov wolfy behaviour my lady.

Sorry, can you rephrase what you're saying here? I don't understand.

You don't have a clear Poe, this is the problem
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Who does? Most of us have skipped around all day...well, except me and I just refused to vote until the last minute so I'm no better. Now we are in a wagon formation that I just realized is mostly absurd.

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:09 pm

Bart Simpson wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:59 pm

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:55 pm @Bart Simpson Did you finish the iso of Krusty?

Nope i was kidnapped by RL unfortunately.
Did you have time to Iso Allison and find a reason to vote her?

Nope last I iso'd her was last phase when I was reassessing. Mostly stemmed from her having a small view on the game and going at it one target after another. It fits someone being comfortable with the state of the game, and keeping stuff close to their chest for further pushes afterwards. Like you can't what their thoughts on the game are past her current target at times. Especially since she was talking about the wolves being happy with the status quo so it doesn't fit her play. She's playing a clean game which is expected but I don't think she's actually contributed to any solving or has skin in the game.

Also our interactions earlier, feels like she's treating me as confirmed town through them rather than someone she's considering might have been fooling her like she said.

There is also the worlds, I'm absolutely certain there is a wolf between her and Burns if not both. Like most other teams don't make sense especially since I have you as town and I know I'm town lol

Allison Taylor wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:09 pm

Bart Simpson wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:08 pm

Allison Taylor wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:05 pm

Bart Simpson wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:02 pm Your take day 1 was Otto/Krusty both villagers. Is my memory bad?
You backed up their reciprocal TRs

Correct, it was clear that they knew each other and had strong meta reasons to townread each other, and at the time they both looked pretty townie with good entrances + tone, so I was willing to let it slide. Obviously that's changed and now I think one of them is scum.

Is happening that you ignore 2 scums in this process and give me alternate Poe 1 of 2 players who can be never checked until endgame.
This is fmpov wolfy behaviour my lady.

Sorry, can you rephrase what you're saying here? I don't understand.

Mr. Burns wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:06 pm

Bart Simpson wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:05 pm Lol at the timing.. Oof

Getting too close to Eod to not have a vote down

Allison Taylor wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:05 pm

Bart Simpson wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:02 pm Your take day 1 was Otto/Krusty both villagers. Is my memory bad?
You backed up their reciprocal TRs

Correct, it was clear that they knew each other and had strong meta reasons to townread each other, and at the time they both looked pretty townie with good entrances + tone, so I was willing to let it slide. Obviously that's changed and now I think one of them is scum.

Mr. Burns wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:03 pm [VOTE: Krusty] aubergine

A'ight...now we're pod racing

Mr. Burns wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:02 pm

Bart Simpson wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:00 pm

Mr. Burns wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:56 pm

Bart Simpson wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:52 pm All our suspects until now didn't give a damn and we have town reads not bothered so much during the game

All our suspects until now were just "well everyone else seems towny." Today we are gonna chop someone who has at least put in effort on clearing themselves...truthfully or not...so yeah they are gonna resist. That goes for Allison, Krusty, or Otto.

And you t-b-q-h

Well, yeah...but to be even more honest I've been a candidate every day.

Allison Taylor wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:00 pm

Allison Taylor wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:56 pm

Bart Simpson wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:54 pm If Otto/Krusty has just one wolf, then 2 more are outside.
Who are they?

As said earlier:

One in Hugh/Burns, because those two aren't wolves together. I'm currently leaning towards it being Burns slightly more because Hugh voted me without hesitation and Burns sort of showed hesitation to join the wagon on me, like he knows the wagon is bad and he doesn't want to get his hands dirty.

One in Gramps/Grumple. I have mixed feelings about both of them but GTH it's Grumple because the town stuff I've seen from Grumple seems less easier to fake than the town stuff I've seen from Gramps (even if it's less consistent).

Actually maybe Hugh is open wolfing with the vote on me because he thinks he can get away with it, ugh

I don't really buy his weird insistence that Krusty/Otto is V/V either. But that Burns hesitation is so out of character for the guy who was willing to smack a vote down on someone because he thinks pressure can turn coal into diamonds.

Mr. Burns wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:56 pm

Bart Simpson wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:52 pm All our suspects until now didn't give a damn and we have town reads not bothered so much during the game

All our suspects until now were just "well everyone else seems towny." Today we are gonna chop someone who has at least put in effort on clearing themselves...truthfully or not...so yeah they are gonna resist. That goes for Allison, Krusty, or Otto.

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:55 pm @Bart Simpson Did you finish the iso of Krusty?

Mr. Burns wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:53 pm

Bart Simpson wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:49 pm

Mr. Burns wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:45 pm Allison?

Spicy I guess.

This is all you can say?

What else is there? Seems like a grasp at straws play, but it's not like I have any great arguments...I've read Allison as town, but I've pretty much read everyone as town so I'm obviously wrong somewhere.

Allison Taylor wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:50 pm

Bart Simpson wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:48 pm

Allison Taylor wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:42 pm

Bart Simpson wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:38 pm @Allison Taylor why do you think we have to see you villager?

Because you see the town spirit and solving attitude in my posts?

I am blind, i don't see the spirit of the town in this game at no one litterally
Please help

I don't know how to show it to you Bart. I've been doing my best to solve the game since D1, my pushes haven't been the best but none of us have had particularly good pushes so far so I don't see why that makes me scum. I've told you my reads already, I can quote it for you if you'd like.

What makes you think I'm a better exe than one in Otto/Krusty? I argued earlier that there was very likely a wolf there because it would be pretty unlikely for both players to misread each other so heavily given that they knew each other really well and were able to confidently identify and meta each other D1.

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:51 pm You feel it's manipulative?

Mr. Burns wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:45 pm Allison?

Spicy I guess.

Allison Taylor wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:42 pm

Bart Simpson wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:38 pm @Allison Taylor why do you think we have to see you villager?

Because you see the town spirit and solving attitude in my posts?

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:37 pm I swear if you're Mafia bart lolol

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:37 pm Apologies not accepted

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:35 pm

Bart Simpson wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:33 pm How much time is it until Eod?
Poll says is at 9:30
My clock says is 7:30 now
You already said my clock is good but you say we have one hour until Eod.

55 minutes. Here's the host post

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 2:38 am

Please note that because of Daylight Saving Time, Day 4 will actually end at 8:30 PM Eastern time, one hour earlier than normally scheduled. I apologize for our society's continued reliance on this practice.

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:33 pm Why didn't you join me on Burns Bart?

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:25 pm

Bart Simpson wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:19 pm

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 7:20 pm

Allison Taylor wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 7:02 pm

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 6:57 pm What did you get from looking at Burns and me?

I've been poking at both of you for reads and thoughts this day phase and I've gotten mostly zilch tbh

both of you are just repeating the party line in that you have roughly the same reads/ideas you've had a day phase ago (correct me if you've done any major re-evals this day and I missed it). burns is depressed and I think townies are more likely to be depressed in this gamestate but obv that's easily fakeable.

Did I miss some of your questions? I think I got back to everyone mentioning me, and shared my reads and thoughts on the game. Haven't really mentioned Grumple and Grampa though but I have no interest in solving there, nor has anything changed from my thoughts the last phase.

Lmao at party line. Re-evaluation doesn't necessarily entail reaching completely different conclusions. One change though would be Bart as mentioned in my interactions with him earlier. Reservations on Krusty are new-ish. Fucking Burns that's my line, I'm the one emotionally exhausted

Chances that this is w/w theatre durecting town in 2 opposite directions?

Otto and Krusty? Or me and Alison interactions lol?

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 7:20 pm

Allison Taylor wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 7:02 pm

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 6:57 pm What did you get from looking at Burns and me?

I've been poking at both of you for reads and thoughts this day phase and I've gotten mostly zilch tbh

both of you are just repeating the party line in that you have roughly the same reads/ideas you've had a day phase ago (correct me if you've done any major re-evals this day and I missed it). burns is depressed and I think townies are more likely to be depressed in this gamestate but obv that's easily fakeable.

Did I miss some of your questions? I think I got back to everyone mentioning me, and shared my reads and thoughts on the game. Haven't really mentioned Grumple and Grampa though but I have no interest in solving there, nor has anything changed from my thoughts the last phase.

Lmao at party line. Re-evaluation doesn't necessarily entail reaching completely different conclusions. One change though would be Bart as mentioned in my interactions with him earlier. Reservations on Krusty are new-ish. Fucking Burns that's my line, I'm the one emotionally exhausted

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 6:50 pm

Bart Simpson wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 5:31 pm 5 hours until Eod i will be back i hope 2 hours before

Still reading that Iso but i wanted to check the Eod moment.

It's 4. You've missed the host post clarifying it

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 4:57 pm What's your take on Krusty?

Mr. Burns wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 4:45 pm

Bart Simpson wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 4:35 pm

Mr. Burns wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 3:02 pm

Bart Simpson wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 2:37 pm

Poll at the moment of this post wrote: Allison Taylor..........1 .......Principal Skinner
Grampa Simpson......1 .......Bart Simpson
The Grumple..........1.......Allison Taylor
Krusty the Clown.....2 .......Grampa Simpson, Otto Mann
Mr. Burns .............1.......Hugh Jass
Otto Mann............1.......Krusty the Clown

I think at least one wolf is wagoned and the silence reflects a state of waiting.

I am seriously hoping the hilarity of this post is intentional.

i am not offended if you proove i am idiot, expand this idea for me please

There were only three players NOT wagoned there and one is lock town Skinner...so yeah "I think at least one wolf is wagoned" was a pretty sure bet. I thought the irony was hilarious, whether intended or not.

And I don't think you're an idiot even if it wasn't intended...frustration really just creates humor sometimes.

Mr. Burns wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 4:46 pm I wish I had one for you.

Mr. Burns wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 3:03 pm

Spoiler: show

Bart Simpson wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 2:13 pm

Mr. Burns wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 2:05 pm

Bart Simpson wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 1:35 pm

Mr. Burns wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 1:14 pm And Bart acting like I should be wasting time trying to clear Skinner by other means is just weird.

I didn't try to clear him, just happened to observe a thing who logically comes from town.

Mind to share your thread searches?

Why?

I have transparently shared my thoughts for three solid day phases, and gotten input feedback. At this point it is obvious that a lot of that feedback was intentionally misleading so I don't really need any more.

At the same time, my deep reading has yet to reveal anything new. In some cases that's because I was right all along. In some cases that must be because I am conf biasing to make the same bad clear on a wolf that I made before. In either case, updating you minute by minute that I still feel pretty much the same as I did at SoD seems sort of pointless.

In regards to Skinner...everything he has posted, just about anyway, comes after the uncontested tracker claim...so sure, that all "logically comes from town."

in other words you didn't post in the thread to have the time to read the thread but you don't have new conclusions after reading?

Basically.

Have you come up with anything new?

Mr. Burns wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 3:02 pm

Bart Simpson wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 2:37 pm

Poll at the moment of this post wrote: Allison Taylor..........1 .......Principal Skinner
Grampa Simpson......1 .......Bart Simpson
The Grumple..........1.......Allison Taylor
Krusty the Clown.....2 .......Grampa Simpson, Otto Mann
Mr. Burns .............1.......Hugh Jass
Otto Mann............1.......Krusty the Clown

I think at least one wolf is wagoned and the silence reflects a state of waiting.

I am seriously hoping the hilarity of this post is intentional.