The Syndicate

Perhaps in the interests of sharing the load we could endeavour to take one person each and quote-share key interactions - we don't all have to reach the same conclusions, but having some quotes for interactions and whatnot might help all of us.

There was a time when I would have wanted to do all of them but I don't feel like I have that kind of time in this day phase.

sig wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 10:58 pm Damn I hate when I’m near the end and one of the more active players.

@Vivax @Golden

Whatcha both thinking right now

That I have done no compatability reads on anyone left. And I feel tired thinking about the need to do them, but I'm gonna start tonight, because I think tell me a lot more than my gut.

But, for the hell of it, my gut list from 'least likely to be scum' to 'most likely to be scum' before I undertake the reads is:

Vivax
Elo
Sig
Sloonei

Vivax, I've had a gut read on for a while - I like his hunting. He presses, but he doesn't give all his cards away.
Elo, I've had in my town core since her possible town slip, but I haven't been paying attention to her.
Sig, I've never eliminated from my PoE based on what's happened in the game - that's not the same thing as a scum read though.
Sloonei - Given the scotty flip, sloonei is not a mason as I thought he was all game, and there's some specific stuff in the way he interacted with my mason read that I need to revisit but don't have me feeling great right now.

I just realised it's kind of ironic that Elo and Sloonei are both still here and alive given day 1.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 4:57 pm I saw I was tagged by Golden and then I started reading his reminiscing and I was like awe what is he going to say about me? “Thanks for inviting me back” I see where I rank.

Hahahaha I was focused on the players

I’m not ‘done done’ I’m just scarce.

sig wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 4:15 pm No if we win you gotta come back for GoC this year @Golden it’s mandatory

As long as the timing is good.

Vivax wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 3:51 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 3:01 pm None of you have to read my self-indulgent claptrap

I printed it out and hung it in the livingroom

Now this one I can tell is a joke!

Btw I do very much appreciate all my friends from round two too… scotty, llama, Sloonei, marmot, Jay etc… but that’s not what this game feels like it’s about.

And I appreciate meeting new faces too! Come play more with me.

None of you have to read my self-indulgent claptrap

Vivax, reminding me of one epic moment in my mafia history, has made me feel like this is the moment to reminisce… I don’t know how much more mafia I have in me, and I feel like this might be the last game I play with many of my long time friends. So please indulge me a little.

@bea we talk often anyway, but I’m so glad we at least got to play again. I’m still expecting that co-host one day.

@Kate i did not believe I’d ever play mafia with you again and it makes me so happy that this happened! And this game made me remember why I missed you being around.

@S~V~S I’m so glad you subbed in. We’ve had plenty of tunnelly fights in mafia over the years but I wouldn’t have it any other way - I love your perceptive guy play and you are formidable as any affiliation. One of my great regrets is not trusting you more in Survivor, I think we would have gone to the end together if I had.

@LoRab youre a constant reminder to me of the Lost bond that brought so many of us together. Lostpedia may be the role in this game, but STV was just as equally a community built on the back of Lost, and I always feel a kindred spirit.

@G-Man i know I’ve mentioned this before, but you were somewhat of a legendary figure to me *before* my mafia career, given I’d seen you around on STV for so long. I love how fate intertwined our mafia identities to some extent through that one Econ gambit.

@DFaraday I’m not sure whether you were in my first game but, I at least remember coming across you early. We had so many’tone-setters’ in those days… mafia was remarkably kind… and you are one of them.

Speaking of kindness, Heiots might be number one. She retired from her mafia career without ever being lynched (or NKed maybe?) I remember asking her to sub in to a confirmed baddie role for me, as one of my teammates had to pull out and we needed her vote… but I had to promise her we had the win on lock and she wouldn’t die! I think that was superman mafia.

And I miss Sophie. And blindfaeth. And manu. And the dutchies. And Cfan and matahari and long con and black rock and flyin high and dom and more besides. These were good times.

Econ was one of my favourite games. Not only was it a fun performance, it was a bridge between classic old school mafia and new school. Role madness, with Jay teaching me how civilians could take solving to a new level.

I’ll never forget King Arthur. I wish we still had Rev Mafia to go back to. If Econ was my best performance, perhaps King Arthur was my worst, but it certainly set my early civ meta apart. Asking everyone to lynch me when I was literally King Arthur because I thought it could lead to mechanically guaranteeing baddie lynches the next day or two due to the Excalibur mechanic, only to discover the baddies had stolen my sword, if I recall correctly. Lol.

And there were others. My arrival as a civ in Superheroes, where we all played in socks and no one knew who I was yet. I remember there was a guessing contest for who was in each sock and the responses to who was in mine were very flattering… it cemented trust in me as civ for a long time.

Futurama as Fry. Biblical mafia, bullets over broadway, mooby… so many games with good memories. Some that I don’t even remember what game it was, just a thing that happened. I feel like ‘alive to win’ game conditions seared a lot of those early games in the brain, because you really wanted to solve but remain lynchable. I just couldn’t get the hang of remaining lynchable to begin with, I provided win equity to the civs in so many games I didn’t win.

And lastly, BSG, my hosting magnum opus. I never forget people who turn up for my games and I appreciate it, and people really did TURN UP for that one.

You know, after I played grease mafia 12??? 13??? 14??? years ago I was so inspired I immediately drafted Indiana Jones mafia. I still haven’t hosted it yet. Maybe one day!

Long live this third mafia career (no, short live it most probably… but at the very least I’m glad to be back here and feel happy to participate again and I don’t intend to completely vanish… I have hosting to do.)

Lastly @Spacedaisy my brain twin, thanks for inviting me back!

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 2:05 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 1:27 pm

Vivax wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 1:02 pm Interesting that when you search for the word 'coward', some of G-Mans posts show up as mine. Was curious about how Golden got to that nickname.

In a game where I was mafia in I think the night before lylo, G-Man did a gambit where he dared the killer to kill him (knowing that if he was alive, he’d get lynched), and said if the killer didn’t kill him, he’d call that person ‘coward’ for the rest of time.

It’s Economics mafia if you want to go find it. Probably my best ever performance as any faction.

Also my first game on the Syndicate.

I think it might have been Jays first too.

Vivax wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 1:02 pm Interesting that when you search for the word 'coward', some of G-Mans posts show up as mine. Was curious about how Golden got to that nickname.

In a game where I was mafia in I think the night before lylo, G-Man did a gambit where he dared the killer to kill him (knowing that if he was alive, he’d get lynched), and said if the killer didn’t kill him, he’d call that person ‘coward’ for the rest of time.

It’s Economics mafia if you want to go find it. Probably my best ever performance as any faction.

I think it's DF. I did comparative analysis yesterday and it fits.

I want to be motivated to revisit everyone, but my 6 year old has a tummy bug and spending two hours of my afternoon doing this only to find the game is over anyway just doesn't appeal. One of those ways in which my relationship with mafia has necessarily changed from what it used to be.

So I'm just gonna get the vote I know I'll end up making anyway out of the way now.

[VOTE: DFaraday] aubergine

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 2:25 am

Golden wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 1:31 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 12:40 am I really wish I knew how hard to hark the Vivax town core. If we are true to Scotty, DF and Sloonei should be our only choices.

Wilgy, you’ve followed sloonei’s votes a lot this game, that is to say you’ve been voting in the same place as him often rather than that you’re sheeping him.

I’d like to know whether that’s coincidence or something else (trust, tactic… whatever it might be).

Didn't even realize it was happening boss.

I was so convinced I was watching mason indicating.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 12:40 am I really wish I knew how hard to hark the Vivax town core. If we are true to Scotty, DF and Sloonei should be our only choices.

Wilgy, you’ve followed sloonei’s votes a lot this game, that is to say you’ve been voting in the same place as him often rather than that you’re sheeping him.

I’d like to know whether that’s coincidence or something else (trust, tactic… whatever it might be).

sig wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 9:42 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 9:38 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 9:20 pm Last wolf is in this PoE:
Vivax, Sloonei, DF

Which one is it tho?

If it is DF and he’s sending in kills but not posting, dealing with that at lylo is unappealing.

It could also be

1. Randomized kills
2. Other teammates sending in kills
3. Michelle was asked/allowed to out in nigjt actions


I’d say we can’t look too deeply into the kill in terms of being alive it was clear Scotty was going to be the kill imo

How do the hosts normally deal with this stuff in the current era?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 9:41 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 9:38 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 9:20 pm Last wolf is in this PoE:
Vivax, Sloonei, DF

Which one is it tho?

If it is DF and he’s sending in kills but not posting, dealing with that at lylo is unappealing.

It's 7 v 1, I doubt we'll see lylo

If DF is bad and we don’t deal with him until lylo then we will see lylo.

It’s only a problem if he isn’t bad.

But based on my comparative reads yesterday, I think he’s quite compatible with mafia.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 9:20 pm Last wolf is in this PoE:
Vivax, Sloonei, DF

Which one is it tho?

If it is DF and he’s sending in kills but not posting, dealing with that at lylo is unappealing.

Sorry scotty!

I’m loling now at all my interactions with Scotty and how difficult he found it believing me.

I understand the brick wall lol.

What the actual fuck.

I have been super wrong about who I thought the masons were and I’m going to have to reevaluate everything.

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 8:52 pm Very nice playing with all of y’all. If i don’t make it through the night, and some tomfoolery is afoot, pay close attention to golden. Very close attention. Assuming michelle is bad, X-ray googles need still be applied.

I don’t want a scenario where dfaraday is just auto elimm’d tomorrow without discussion. So keep up the solving and pressure on golden and wilgy just in case.

THe crux of my continual tinfoil is this: a duo consisting of those two would have to be deep wolfing. Even ONE holding back from bussing other teammates one after another would look suspicious (and I know you’re probably like ‘Scotty, your tinfoil hat is on so tight you’re ready to start spotting aliens in the barn’ but it would be a disservice for me to exclude all possibilities- plus who doesn’t love some good conspiracy theories late into games??)

Unless something absolutely bonkers happens sometime in the night (Socky’s, the map secret resurgence, etc) Pretty much all we need to do is continue the path we’re on. Elo is town, sloonei is town, viv is town. Clearing aside, they are ones i trust.

This elim is THE LEAST nervous I’ve felt in a while in this game, and frankly i’m exhausted lol so i’m all here for it

Love you too Scotty.

If i die tonight no one tinfoil scotty. The town core is string,

Vivax wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 8:59 pm Got a bad hunch that Fingers was jailkeeper/Kate

Pretty confident splints would be tangrowth. We’ve seen no evidence of that role.

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 7:32 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 7:29 pm (+scotty, who as far as I’ve seen hasn’t hinted but is mechanically cleared).

oh, I’m surprised you of all people haven’t picked up on my proclivities yet.

Which makes me wonder what other roles you’ve got pegged for certain people..

(But I’m not gonna go there)

Spoiler: show

Lol, no I haven’t picked up on yours, but it’s nice to know it’s there.

(+scotty, who as far as I’ve seen hasn’t hinted but is mechanically cleared).

I just hope everyone that I have pegged as specific town roles get on the same page. We probably have an undefeatable town core if they do.

Wilgy could be bad and I’m open to the misread but I’m more convinced by Michelle than wilgy.

Vivax wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 7:19 pm Because silent nights:

It‘s important to have Wilgy explain why not Golden and for Golden the why not Wilgy or why Michelle.

It’s not important that I explain why *not* wilgy… I’m lynching who I think *is* mafia.

Michelle > wilgy for me. I read Scotty’s Michelle/Quin interactions and did my own Michelle/G-Man interactions. She looks compatible to me.

I’ve had good vibes on wilgy this game and his votes on g and Quin are good… not determinative. I also like the way he’s been sheeping sloonei. Seems like for some people, Sloonei is a good person to sheep.

Vivax wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 7:10 pm The typo one was a joke. An extra S doesn‘t make anyone sscum

Oh lol.

Yeah see this stuff can fly over my head. I was just confused at the read.

This is IRL stuff and I’m not asking for it to be a crutch or change your read, just please note that regardless of alignment it affects how I engage. I’m not offended/bothered by being suspected for things that are within the range of things that can be explained by my neurodiversity - it’s an explanation, not a defence, so please don’t feel like you have to treat me too differently.

But some accomodations are useful in terms of your actual ability to hunt out my alignment.

Vivax wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 7:02 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 6:58 pm You have no idea how much hard work I was putting in to not make typos because I don’t see my own typos easily and I transpose letters often.

Your writing is good enough that you don‘t look dyslexic.
Either way, I don‘t plan to make fun of that.

You sure you don‘t have a rare case of the shining over there?

I want to be really clear about this.

More than half your posts in the last couple of hours (including this one) I literally don’t understand.

I don’t know what you’re asking. I need more directness.

As for ‘not looking dyslexic’. I try not to look dyslexic. It’s easier when I write on a computer than in handwriting, for sure… and autocorrect can help but sometimes hinder.

I probably made the post you quoted on pc not phone so I didn’t get the autocorrect assistance.

I guess what I’m telling you is that typos for me are NAI but in this particular game, that it took me so long to make one is actually a thing. You don’t have to believe that.

You have no idea how much hard work I was putting in to not make typos because I don’t see my own typos easily and I transpose letters often.

Vivax wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 6:50 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Oct 27, 2022 7:25 pm And here’s the truth, just not doing much was kinda successsful because my brain got bored and started looking at other people. Which I need to do as well, but I can see how I would fall away from voting you through entropy rather than actually suspecting you less, and that’s the problem.

Entropy!

Successsful typo in post suggests Golden could be one of our reptilian liar overlords

I’m dyslexic

Vivax wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 6:39 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Oct 27, 2022 7:09 pm Has @G-Man posted today?

@Elohcin did being close to lynch give you any insight

@Quin - no questions. But you do one major Scotty/eloh thing and it feels like you’ve been coasting ever since. I remember there was a game where I was mafia and I was false reading you as mafia, and you were far more reactive and defensive, feels like your approach to suspicion is to go quiet and hope I start looking elsewhere (don’t remember what game it was though) [VOTE: Quin] aubergine

This one maybe. Bit of a lukewarm accusation.
Really need to reread that entire day LoraB got zonked

No, I was all over him like a rash,

He was calling stuff ‘substantial’ that just wasn’t and absolutely wouldn’t elaborate on his reads.

He pushed into scotty/eloh to look busy at the exclusion of anything else.

There was plenty problematic on day one.

Vivax wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 6:30 pm Quin was voting Golden too before late-switching to Michelle.

Maybe revenge for very early bussing.
Stubborn bussing too but finding a single explanation from Golden on what made Quin mafia is hard to find if at all during his ‚early ISO‘

I can’t iso myself on phone but happy to deal with this, from my day one iso, and also in more depth if requested, if we’re both in the next day phase.

Vivax, I’m neurodiverse. I don’t always deal with implication we’ll. If there’s something about my behaviour that you want a particular response to, I might need you to spell it out more. Sorry!

sig wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 6:43 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 4:17 pm I tend to think the only world where Michelle isn’t bad is one where sig and df are trying to utr this.

What’s utr?

Under the radar

Vivax wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 6:46 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 6:41 pm Also it’s not true that I backed off from expanding on it. I explained what I didn’t like about Quin.

You swaggered how many games you solved off D1s.
Please give some solving ?

I have no idea what you are getting at or what you want from me.

I’ve done plenty of solving this game including today.

Vivax wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 6:20 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 6:11 pm

Vivax wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 5:04 pm Seems odd to me the whole look at Wilgy/Michelle/Quin flew right over Golden's head, but I can only handle so much tinfoil a day.

It didn’t fly over my head. That’s why I specifically pinged you. I wanted a reaction in the moment but you weren’t around.

I’m just impatient.

I liked how you pinged Quin on D1, not so much how you talked about literally anything else before you gave up.

I don’t understand this comment

Also it’s not true that I backed off from expanding on it. I explained what I didn’t like about Quin.

Vivax wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 5:43 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 5:36 pm Why is no one here?

'Michelle you didn't interact with Quin. '
I don't remember to see Quin posting.

In this day, every single time when I posted i was alone itt.
So mafia is happy with a new mischop and town don't want to know anything about the game.

So Golden wasn‘t trusting Quin on D1 but backed off from expanding on it saying ‚shrug, nobody thinks the same as I do‘, Sloonei claimed hard townread

Wilgy on the other hand seemed content with having you as the sorta obvious option, which you mentioned.

Would that make sense to you? Or do you have other players as suspects.

I think you are misunderstanding my post significantly.

I did not suspect Quin less because others didn’t see it the same way as me. Yes I backed off - I have a history of trying to lead the thread and tunnelling. Me doing stuff like *listening* instead is something I’m deliberately trying to ge better at in this new mafia life. But backing off and listening is not the same as changing my read.

My read of Quin changed the period of time when sloonei reiterated a hard clear of Quin for about the fourth time and when Sloonei backed off on the read.

And if you’ve been following the role I think Sloonei has, you’d understand why.

Once it was cleared up for me that Sloonei wasn’t hard defending Quin, I was quite focused on him again.

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 5:28 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 3:22 pm @Michelle Let’s say you’re town- who is in your POE? Like I get you have to defend yourself, but so far I’m mostly seeing nitpicking defending to 2 people that have already voted you.

You know I’m town. Do you think Wilgy is slandering you as a wolf? What is your read on the rest of the players?

Bea didn't post, so everyone said she is in antispew. Obviously, everyone was wrong.
I answered at posts adressed at me with the limited time I had until now and I started the Quin Iso. You say I am nitpicking.
Town violence against town cannot be stopped by logic, I know that much.

I reset my reads. All of them.
Reasons:
I had Wilgy as town but he is pushing me without a reason. What he said that day 1 was not a real suspicion, has little value for me and despite he saying few times that he didn't notice Sloonei's vote, I don't trust that to be true. Wilgy looks like he needs a mischop.
You are the only player I am sure is town.
Golden's vote is lazy.
Sloonei voted Vivax, I belive he didn't know the vote is locked regardless alignament.
Vivax posted that idea about me shading you, it was probably a honest mistake and NAI. At least he had an attempt at solving.
Sig, Elo and DF are utr.

I am looking at the hour, is 23:24.
I want to try to solve though, that's the best part of the game for me

My vote is lazy? I literally went and did associative reads for you and DF.

Vivax wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 5:04 pm Seems odd to me the whole look at Wilgy/Michelle/Quin flew right over Golden's head, but I can only handle so much tinfoil a day.

It didn’t fly over my head. That’s why I specifically pinged you. I wanted a reaction in the moment but you weren’t around.

I’m just impatient.

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 4:34 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 4:11 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 3:19 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 2:14 pm For the record, when I have been mafia in the past my top priority has been distancing and so-called “anti-spew”, since my old Hyper Aggressive playstyle never lent itself to staying alive for very long.

Since I saw a mention or two of my mafia meta.

Do you think there’s another reason mafia would have killed SVS and not me last night?

What is your suggested reason for the mafia killing svs rather than you?

Well as I said in a previous post when Michelle asked, it could be that SVs was closed down a path than I was. The biggest divergence being her suspicious of Sloonei, and, to a lesser extent, you.

But the more I think about it, a more likely reason is to avoid Kate Break. I was probably the most obvious NK target. And I would expect Kate Break, if still in the game, to go for me last night.

I don’t expect to survive another night.

So it could literally be just a doc dodge of another high profile civ voice.
Or one of you and Sloonei needs more scrutiny.

I can’t imagine Sloonei thinking ‘I’m safe with Scotty’… if I’d been asked who was pursuing Sloonei most in the thread I would have said you long before saying SVS.

I also really think the tinfoil is noise getting in the way at this point. Towncore doesn’t need blind trust but I really think at this point ‘scotty surviving because Sloonei is bad’ is the least likely of about six reasons for the kill I can think of (Kate break being a prominent one).

Given the risk remains that you die tonight, I think your efforts being focused eksewgere would be much more productive.

I’m impatient and I have a busy day and don’t want to risk missing eod.

I realise this might be a clinching vote. I do think it’s the best choice today. Sorry if I’m wrong.

[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

Updated vote totals

Sloonei -> Vivax
Wilgy -> Michelle
Scotty -> Michelle
Golden -> Michelle

Michelle (3)
Vivax (1)

I tend to think the only world where Michelle isn’t bad is one where sig and df are trying to utr this.

@Vivax do you have any reason I shouldn’t vote michelle right now?

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 3:19 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 2:14 pm For the record, when I have been mafia in the past my top priority has been distancing and so-called “anti-spew”, since my old Hyper Aggressive playstyle never lent itself to staying alive for very long.

Since I saw a mention or two of my mafia meta.

Do you think there’s another reason mafia would have killed SVS and not me last night?

What is your suggested reason for the mafia killing svs rather than you?

Quin/DF

DF quotes Quin and replies to him once in a way that could be described as 'slight distancing' - he disagrees with Quin in a way that makes no difference at all

On the flip side - perhaps someone should double check Quin's iso, but I don't think Quin mentioned DF at all until he started having a go at me for voting DF and was trying to pretzel me for not having made a case on him a day sooner. I think he literally never mentions DF outside of this exchange.

I think there's a high chance that DF and Michelle are the last two wolves.

G-Man/DF content:

DF provides an unsubtantiated town read on G-Man

G-Man puts DF in his POE 'not because he finds him suspicious, but because I have no reason to townclear him so far'. Quite innocuous, but it is interesting that G-Man felt the need to expressly explain that he didn't find DF suspicious while putting him in the PoE. That's the way a PoE works, you should get out of it not in to it.

There's an interesting phiosophical question here - to what extent is treating a PoE like a suspects list rather than a list of everyone not towncleared alignment-indicative?

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Nov 08, 2022 1:58 pm

sig wrote: ↑Tue Nov 08, 2022 1:57 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Nov 08, 2022 1:51 pm

sig wrote: ↑Tue Nov 08, 2022 11:58 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Nov 08, 2022 11:40 am Today:

-I am not looking to vote Wilgy. I think his track record is one that is solved by flipping Michelle.
-I will not vote for Elo or Vivax or Golden. They are my current towncore
-I am not voting Sloonei unless Golden changes his mind on Sloonei’s townness
-I think voting DF is a non-starter. If DF truly is wolf, he will be best eliminated last once we’ve caught the 3rd wolf.

Therefore, I will be voting for sig or Michelle today. And sig I feel pretty ok about.

Why is Vivax in your town core

As I’ve said, I’ve had a good feeling of him early on and I stand by my read of him.

That’s not a very descriptive reason.

Let’s say Michelle flips civ then what would your read be on them

[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

Let’s find out

Can this count in the vote tally?