The Syndicate

Boomslang wrote:Linki2: MP, ladies and gentlemen, making a rainbow on Day 0 :P

Coming to you soon, MP makes a rainbow list in the sign up thread

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Golden wrote:Hot takes

Bwt is town. Scotty is bad.

Can you elaborate?

No.

I mean, I could, but I'd rather not right now.

Hot takes

Bwt is town. Scotty is bad.

Sloonei wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:Hey Sloonei, talk to me about some things too when you get the chance! What's your strategy?

I've read about 1% of the thread so far. I've been either at work or asleep since this game started, but that's done now. I'll have things to say soonish.

There are 192 posts. You've written 10 of them. By my calculations, that means you haven't read 8 of your own posts so far.

I don't blame you though. I don't want to read my own posts either. I don't even know what I just typed.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Last! Well maybe. Who hasn't checked in.

There's still time for you to be the first to self-vote.

insertnamehere wrote:3J continues to think my meta is contrarian gnat

Oh my, someone needs to sig this. It's awesome.

MovingPictures07 wrote:Conclusion: I think Wilgy is tinfoil reading me as mafia because he's afraid that I'm mafia.

So... you are townreading Wilgy?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Golden wrote:I didn't see disdain from inh. He seemed to be fine with others using it, pointed out that it had a particular weakness in this game, and made it clear he wouldn't be using it. That's all perfectly reasonable.

Yeah, this was part of my point; as a member of the mafia, if he in reality feels so strongly against POE, he could have easily derailed the entire thread by responding in a more emotionally manipulative manner. Instead, he popped in, noticed a potential hole in my strategy, expressed his beefs, and then was basically like 'OK, you do you, I'll do me'. I would expect that a mafia INH might have been more tempted to respond more outrageously, or at least draw out the conversation more. He seemed intent to express his piece and then end it.

I guess I don't agree with this assertion. I don't think "emotional manipulation" is a typical circumstance in strategic dialogue regardless of alignment. Sometimes it gets heated when people don't understand each other like it did in Red vs. Blue, but that's an exception and not the rule in my experience (and in that game everyone involved minus Epi was town).

I don't agree with THIS assertion, because I've seen people (including MP and epi) do it masterfully and intentionally when bad to get people to see things their way. There's a reason llama looks for too many adjectives. It's not entirely bullsuit.

I do think a lack of agenda is inherently town-leaning. I don't know that I'm willing to give inh a town read yet (because he did get emotional about PoEs, in my opinion, in Red vs Blue and he was town there, and I see what he has posted here as a natural progression of his thinking as a person rather than a character in this game.)

I didn't see disdain from inh. He seemed to be fine with others using it, pointed out that it had a particular weakness in this game, and made it clear he wouldn't be using it. That's all perfectly reasonable.

MovingPictures07 wrote:I want to town read you and Golden, but I cannot justify that quite yet, because I would expect the three of us to mindmeld on all of this regardless of alignment.

I feel there should be no legitimate reason to townread me yet. I haven't read the thread or the rules even. All I've done is talk philosophy and needled people for fun. So I'm glad you can't justify it. I think it would have been too soon.

Makes me feel like this is not scrimmage MP. That's good.

MovingPictures07 wrote:brother!

Save it for Lost Again.

insertnamehere wrote:

Golden wrote:inh just volunteered to iso epi

Or to watch Epi iso someone else.

If you want to avoid the smily, you have to spoonerise and say :copporn:

inh just volunteered to iso epi

MovingPictures07 wrote:I just know my own strengths and weaknesses as a mafia player. I've increasingly realized that I'm awful at finding mafia, but I think I'm generally OK at finding fellow townies, so I'm trying to play to my relative strength here.

I don't even think that's you. I think it's most people. That's why PoE as a concept has proven successful elsewhere.

I think it's fair to say that many people express an unwillingness to say they read people as town in case it gets their townread killed. But I think declaring town reads is helpful so I continue to do it.

I said it best, all you other pretenders are just saying what I said but more wordily

Epignosis wrote:Townie is Such a Pussy Word

Would you please stop grabbing people by their pussy word.

insertnamehere wrote:let me just say that I am completely willing to put my own survival over the "playing for the town win condition," which I assume means following POE to the letter.

I don't think Jay means that. I think he means trying to stay under the radar and not take any part in trying to solve the game to avoid being NKed.

In my experience of you, you always try to solve the game.

If you are town, then it's good if we know that we disagree about who is bad (or agree). It's bad if we don't know that we disagree, because neither of us are willing to say who we think is bad in case we are right and they kill us.

I agree with inh that PoE would be challenging in this game. It's great for a game that is relatively straightforward, but the more secrets there are the more difficult it is to achieve.

I'm willing to see how MP plays it out, though. I could be surprised.

Also, I'd note that the last time I talked about PoE on this site (Red vs Blue), it was fundamentally flawed for that game as well. Not because of the mafia (which it worked for), but because of the specific serial killer secret that G-Man employed, which enabled me to get a hard clear of myself from inh in my second life. Inadvertently, getting Jay on my side through use of PoE while I was a civilian, when he was under attack from people who didn't believe in it, allowed me to manipulate him a little into seeing the serial killer through the same PoE lens when I knew I could use it against him.

PoE is a great tool, but every game secret is a potential chance to manipulate it.

Hello

I read my role, but nothing else yet. I'm flat out. So I'll be back when I have a moment.