The Syndicate

WTF? Two seconds ago you said you worked out what my dealio was and that I wasn't bad.

MacDougall wrote:
Golden wrote:
MacDougall wrote:Anyways... I think while I was writing this I kind of worked something out that makes me rethink my suspicion of you at all. You'll probably take that as me backing off like a pussy but if you actually know me you know that's not me. I actually think I know what your dealio is now and I don't think you're bad.
Not necessarily. I'll admit, I expected you to have this sorted already, it is part of why I've suspected your going after me isn't genuine. So, could it be that you did already have it sorted and this is a good way to get me to back off? Yes. It could also be exactly as you say that you have actually just put it together now. I don't see this particular statement as being particularly persuasive one way or the other.
Lol what am I supposed to be a telepath? It was only posts on the very last page that made me put 2 and 2 together.

Linki: I don't believe that at all.

If I thought you were civ at the time you called me out, trust me when I say you would not have gotten an OMGUS.

That's the difference between my reaction to you in Dune and in this game.

Posts on the last page?

of my iso or the game thread?

MacDougall wrote:And let me elaborate on the whole mean/belittling thing. I don't like calling certain types of players scum off my gut reads. I don't particularly mind pissing people off and offending people, but civ or scum there are certain players I prefer not to engage like that until I have formulated more than a gut scum read because of how much content they are capable of producing in quick time to bury me in shit. You and Zebra fall into that category because your reactions give me anxiety. Sometimes you've been rational (but even in the Dune game you dropped the calm act and became angry Golden sometimes) and I expect you would do exactly what you did and that's just pile layers of OMGUS onto me because of it. I do it too. I know the type. It's me. But, Zebra asked me to be honest and the day was being wasted so here we are, with you OMGUSing the shit out of me (and yes, you are OMGUSing me, you had a civ read on me before).

I never had a civ read on you, Mac.

Underlined explains why I said I did. I know exactly what you are getting at. I think you and I work very similarly.

MacDougall wrote:Anyways... I think while I was writing this I kind of worked something out that makes me rethink my suspicion of you at all. You'll probably take that as me backing off like a pussy but if you actually know me you know that's not me. I actually think I know what your dealio is now and I don't think you're bad.

Not necessarily. I'll admit, I expected you to have this sorted already, it is part of why I've suspected your going after me isn't genuine. So, could it be that you did already have it sorted and this is a good way to get me to back off? Yes. It could also be exactly as you say that you have actually just put it together now. I don't see this particular statement as being particularly persuasive one way or the other.

Classic llama.

Hey, its legit genius either way. Never let me accuse you of not being good at this game.

Yeah, that one. Thanks for helping, DH.

a2thezebra wrote:Please tell me it's a direct post that you can point to that makes you trust her without outing her as insert power role here.

The most recent lynch post from DH.

Also, I'd be up for a llama lynch. Not because I particularly suspect him, just because lynching llamas is fun.

I will, but if you want to get a quick start... try just ISOing him and looking at his approach to BC, Enrique and Simon.

He has Enrique as confirmed scum nearly at the very start of the game base on entirely bullsuit reasons, and he never lets up, pursuing it with such certainty. I never thought the case that was being built on Enrique on day zero had much merit, it was so tenuous... but it makes sense to me coming from someone who was technically on his team, knew he was bad, but had no btsc with him... and Greedo was stealing his credits too. Have a look at how fast he jumps on all the Enrique stuff.

BC, on the other hand, he defended.

Simon, he was completely happy to see the lynch go down - but really critical of people while it was in flight. Such an easy way to come out slamming others after the fact. I don't like it all.

And I'll add to his attitude towards those three - Mac said he was anxious and afraid of coming after me because I can be 'mean and belittling'. I think he thought he was aiming straight at a weak spot, there, to get me to back off or piss me off or make ME feel little. In reality, all I see is someone who I don't think is the slightest bit afraid of me coming at him in a way that could be considered 'mean and belittling', and hopefully buying the goodwill of others who see me that way in the process. I found that statement from him to be calculated in the extreme.

Also, @zebra - do you see what I see in terms of trusting elo?

a2thezebra wrote:
MacDougall wrote:This is no way to hunt a likely fully in tact scum team. No vote pressure on anyone except Simon. Lots of gambling posts. No egg breaking. Empire can just come in vote Simon and leave, how are we supposed to flush them out if we just do that?
This looks like the kind of post someone would make if they knew Simon was innocent.

Exactly how I feel.

When I get the chance (which won't be today) I intend to write a post entitled 'why Mac is team Hutt'. There are quite a few signs at this point.

Glorfindel wrote:
Golden wrote:Not to mention the fact that until this game zebra and I haven't managed to have one where we have actively trusted each other at all.
So I guess then I have to ask you the question - are you prepared to keep your mind open on me even just a little?

I feel I've had an open mind all game - it's why I defended Enrique from suspicion early in the game and turned on him later when I felt there was better evidence.

I don't know why you feel as though I'm guaranteed to vote you tomorrow - I don't feel that way. I do feel like you haven't done anything to get off my suspect list yet, but you are only one person on that list.

Canuck was my top civvie read before she was your top civvie read so neener neener

Anyway, my clique is with canuck. We come from great countries that live in the shadow of their mroe famous neighbours, but we both know where it's really at. Right Canuck?

Not to mention the fact that until this game zebra and I haven't managed to have one where we have actively trusted each other at all.

@Glorfindel - I've played with zebra and Mac about three times each, starting only about 6 weeks ago. Mac and I have actively traded barbs today. How is it that you see that as 'unwilling to seriously vote anyone inside your clique'?

I've come to the conclusion I'm feeling a lot better about Elo today.

You've already proved number 1 today, since you feel like I've been acting like a dick

MacDougall wrote:You though, you psyched up. You disagreed. You made excuses for taking the day off. I don't get it.

I never disagreed.

I just said I didn't feel the need to be the one doing it, and that plenty of other people had the capability.

MP has been doing that all game. MP also had really good reasons to take a break and focus on RL, and he wasn't doing it right then. So...?

And if it takes for you to think someone is civ is for hem to act the way you want them to and think the same way you do, then I guess I know now exactly how to make you blind when I'm scum.

I have said since a long time to go, and I will continue to say it since you continue to seem to think the same thing. Your idea of me taking a day off and not being urgent in catching empire making me SCUM is blatantly wrong. You know what golden doesn't take days off to stop 'scum hunting'? SCUM golden. Scum golden never rests, because he has a meta to live up to. Even if he is wrong, at least he looks like he is trying.

Civ golden doesn't give a toss about appearing to his meta. Civ golden just wants to solve the game. You can take that to the bank.

JJJ had experience of accusing me of taking the game easy on a number of days where there were easy lynches in Bullets over Broadway too. What happened in that game? I was not on either of the baddie teams (which should have been known in that case because I put a hole in both), and I was alive to help decide the game at lylo, and I won.

Here is the thing... it doesn't even matter if I took down two members of the empire in the next two days. If I take a day off, people just start accusing me of having bussed my teammates. They ignore the fact that I take lots of days off all the time. As I said to Brian way back on day one of this game:

Golden wrote:
bcornett24 wrote:You are way to defensive for what I said. I have never seen a golden who is scared he is going to be lynched because of too much content as a civ? Even if you have been in the recent past, even in more than one game, that is a bullshit excuse, and illogical. As you stated in your argument with zebra content is useful as it allows reads. I've have been lynched on day 1-2 in 2/6 of the games ive played thus far. That hasn't stopped me from posting. (Thanfully this day 0/1 fell on my weekend so I have had more time to participate.)
I'm not 'afraid to post content'.

But if I put my absolute full 'supatown golden' into every game from day one, two things will happen.

1) People will like me less, because it can be quite an abrasive style for some people and I make a concerted effort not to do it too often, only when I feel very confident and;
2) I'll burn out.

I'm heading into a short mafia break after this game to stay fresh, and I only signed up for this one very late because I couldn't resist the theme. But I have no intention of playing this game at 100% intensity. I'm still committed to providing quality content, just hopefully in a less intense way. I need this for me.

I appreciate you doing the iso and realising that I've been providing content all game. You didn't need to change your perspective, you could have pursued it, so that is a positive in my book.

The relevance of that post has still not changed. I am sticking to exactly the same game method and intent that I declared all the way back there, and I will continue to stick to it no matter how much people cajole me otherwise. I have a history of stress-related depression. I know when to push and when to take it easy. This game is one where I'm taking it easy. That doesn't mean low content, and it doesn't mean I'm not thinking. It just means I have absolutely no intention of trying to supatown golden at 100% the entire game.

MacDougall wrote:
Golden wrote:@Mac - you suspect me only to get me to post more? Is that what you are saying?

I feel like your thoughts are all over the show. I've been rational this entire time. I haven't OMGUSed you - I wanted you to answer questions about MP because I felt your change suspicious, but you have obfuscated in your answers on that, to the extent that all I can take from it is that it is 'obvious' that your reasons for changing your view is because 'MP has been different' in the last short period of time. If that was coming from someone else, how good a reason would you see that as being?

And if your cajoling to get me to post more was just that, I'd probably see it as motivated by civ causes. But it hasn't just been that.... its been waving (from before you asked me to post more) in and out of this suspicion you have that I'm on team Empire, and you have been using my apparent lack of effort as evidence that I am on that team. So, yes, it feels to me like the latter is more true than the former. It isn't necessarily so, but if you want rational - just go back and look at yours posts as they relate to me over the last few days. They've been all over the show. It's hard for me to see them as coherent rational thought. Take this, for instance.

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MacDougall wrote:
Golden wrote:
MacDougall wrote:
Golden wrote:I'm rarely one who stirs noise for the sake of it. If I think I have some easy votes, I'm ok having a couple of quiet days, especially when I'm busy enough as it is.

I will say though - what is this low hanging fruit have I been going after, exactly?
Fair enough.

Not just you, the entire game has been played with the voting of low hanging fruit getting lynched and looks set to continue with Simon's lynch. Ironically they have been scum, so can't really complain, except that they've been scum from the same team so I'm not discounting the possibility of the Empire being the driving force behind it all.
BC was low hanging fruit? Really? Was Enrique going to go down if noone had put out the various connections? I don't think so... that was a solid case, not low-hanging fruit.

I would call low-hanging fruit 'I'm voting bubbles because she doesn't post much'. But I haven't really seen any of that going on this game. Seeing clear baddie connections and lynching people for them is hardly low-hanging fruit. It's what we are trying to do...

I've also generally pushed against low hanging fruit lynches - including early movements against russti and enrique, and BC trying to push bubbles etc... so I don't think you will find it accurate to say I've gone for low hanging fruit. The one exception you might make is bass 1.0.
Okie dokie. Consider me convinced.
I suspect you because I feel your level of scum hunting is not where it usually is. Despite your efforts causing 2 scum to be revealed. Actually because of it. For you to back off after catching 2 scum is weird. You just put your vote on Simon and allow everyone else to do the same, it's so unlike what I expect of you. Especially when you have the taste of having caught scum I'd expect you to be very present after that, but instead ... you're busy, your focus is on World Reborn etc. I can't see why you wouldn't be giving this game the same level of attention as World Reborn when you have actually been largely responsible for putting us in a good position here. That should feed your desire to contribute, instead it seems to have given you carte blanche to apparently take the day off. That's more of a bad guy reaction that a good guy reaction. It's like you won some civ cred so you feel comfortable taking the day. Until I provoked you into action, and you reaction wasn't like MP who just started analysing the game and hunting, but to no u me really hard.

It'd be nuts to think you are on the Hutts since you got two of them lynched right. So if I am right in my ping you'd be Empire obviously, not Hutt. In case you're wondering why I think you're Empire. Again this is the sort of thing I feel a civilian Golden would just GET without me needing to express it.

All your points against me are valid. But you are only pointing out that I have had an inconsistent read on you. My opinion on you has indeed fluctuated. As has my opinion on many players. My read of the play changes as content gets produced. You have made me feel unsettled, then you've made me feel better, then you've unsettled me again. Same can be said for others. I started with a scum read of Sig, now I have a very town read of Sig. I started with a scum read of MP, now I have a town read. I started with a town read of you, now I have slight bad guy read.

And now you are ignoring the obvious answer I gave you about my MP read? MP came in today all guns blazing, agreeing that today was being wasted. Agreeing with ME. I am civ so if he feels the same way I do it's easy for me to deduce that he is civ.

You though, you psyched up. You disagreed. You made excuses for taking the day off. I don't get it.

Mac, if you think all I've done is no u really hard, then you need to read the day back, tbqh. I've put my oar in all over the place where I've felt it is needed.

@Mac - you suspect me only to get me to post more? Is that what you are saying?

I feel like your thoughts are all over the show. I've been rational this entire time. I haven't OMGUSed you - I wanted you to answer questions about MP because I felt your change suspicious, but you have obfuscated in your answers on that, to the extent that all I can take from it is that it is 'obvious' that your reasons for changing your view is because 'MP has been different' in the last short period of time. If that was coming from someone else, how good a reason would you see that as being?

And if your cajoling to get me to post more was just that, I'd probably see it as motivated by civ causes. But it hasn't just been that.... its been waving (from before you asked me to post more) in and out of this suspicion you have that I'm on team Empire, and you have been using my apparent lack of effort as evidence that I am on that team. So, yes, it feels to me like the latter is more true than the former. It isn't necessarily so, but if you want rational - just go back and look at yours posts as they relate to me over the last few days. They've been all over the show. It's hard for me to see them as coherent rational thought. Take this, for instance.

Spoiler: show

MacDougall wrote:Basically Golden gives actual non surface effort for minimal time, tugs a string and lynches two Hutts and wonders why I want him to try more. Not just wonders but thinks I'm bad for WANTING a player who has shown amazing ability to catch scum here to post more.

To what fucking end would me as scum want you to try harder if you were civ?

You say 'I'm trying to get you to post more'

I say 'you're trying to get others thinking I'm not contributing when I am'.

"non surface effort for minimal time"... thats what you are claiming I've done in this game.

I may post "Paranoid theory: enrique and simon are BC teammates" but when I do that, I've already done my isos and poll research to test it. Catching scum isn't minimal effort.

If that is really how you feel, I don't know what I can do about it.

I'm thinking plenty.

This isn't RYM. Me telling you the next five suspects on my list isn't at the top of my agenda. I explained to you... simon today, I have no need to go tealking about my empire suspects when simon was still on the list. You can accept that, or not, but its normal culture in a world where death often ends your game when civ. What if I call three empire team members out correctly? I can't lynch them all, but they can certainly NK me.

And I still don't understand why you would think you don't have supertown golden in this game when I basically was the one who created the case on the two baddies we've caught. It seems that holds no sway in how much you think I'm thinking.

Heh, I see you caught that inconsistency first.

I have a simple answer for you.

Depends if I think you are good or bad. Today you get full on rebuttal - because I think your motivations for going up against me are not civilian motivations. It also does sometimes depend how busy I am in real life.

It's hard to provide thoughtful responses to continued cajoling from you to post more, as though this is an indicator of my civ self when I've already made it very clear it is not.

@MP - people who are tinfoiling don't tend to bring up reasons to suspect you that were actively defended against with objective evidence days before.

Mac keeps bringing up his perception of my 'lack of posting'. I expect civilians (especially ones like Mac, who actually have a pretty minimal level of experience of me) to take into account a broader understanding of my civ meta when it crops up. His opinion on that side of me this game hasn't changed, so I believe he has an agenda for pushing it.

And anyway, I have found him to be, shall be say... deliberately obtuse throughout this game. I think he has very well understood a lot of things that he is pretending he is not understanding and finding suspicious.

linki @Mac - a second ago, from my dune meta, you said going up against me sees me just shrug of suspicions and not care.

Now, you say I am mean and belittling when people go against me and you avoid it when you can.

Which is it? They are basically polar opposites.

MovingPictures07 wrote:
MacDougall wrote:MP's tone changed. MP's approach to the game changed. MP reacted positively to me prodding him repeatedly. It all really does quite go without saying.
How so? If so, I'm unaware I've made an approach change. Maybe I just feel more comfortable now that it's past the early stage.

Exactly MP. Do you feel it goes without saying why Mac has changed his read on you? I don't understand why at all, and his vague implications that it should be obvious don't help me at all.

MovingPictures07 wrote:Golden, let's talk. If you could lynch any player in the game right now instead of Simon, who would it be and why?

Mac, 100%.

Because I think he is trying to drum up suspicion on people he sees as threats to his own survival, rather than having genuine opinions. Good example, go iso how back and forth and flaky he has been on his suspicion on me. It's like he is dipping his toes in the water to see if anyone else bites.

He also berates others for not creating content, but when I suggest he could do the same he barely does. It's not like he is going out of his way to canvas a lot of suspicions or directly question people. He only really started directly going at me just now after I started questioning him about his read on you. Before that, he was cautious in his suspicion of me.

linki @mac - when did I ever suggest you would want to exclusively talk about me? I was actually asking you to talk about your suspicion of MP, so...

Golden wrote:It has come to my attention that my week is insanely crazy, so I doubt I'll be posting as much as usual. Just wanted to warn people.

Golden wrote:My primary effort goes to World Reborn because it is in end game, and all up, across everything I'm doing... I will not be as present as would be ideal from now until after Christmas. I am super busy. There is a reason I was the last man on to sign ups, and why I've said I won't be signing up for any more for a while.

Please don't claim I said it was JUST world reborn. That's bullsuit.

MacDougall wrote:Golden has also shown a propensity for what feels like disappearing mid conversation here and popping back up later which is totally unlike him. That's a real feel based thing though. He feels less present in the thread here. He says it's because World Reborn is in late game or whatever. I feel like it's more than that.

It is more than that.

It's that my fucking REAL LIFE IS FUCKING BUSY!

WTF mac - "lightweight accusations" - you still haven't answered a very basic question.

I have no idea why your read on MP has changed, at all. Still don't.

OK, here is a heavyweight accusation for you.

I have thought you are empire for many days now. I've kept it in, because I don't feel the need to go spouting my empire suspicions and let them NK me before I can do anything about it.

You are inconsistent in this game. You beseech others for contributions while giving minimal of your own, and obfuscating when you are asked questions.

And here is the most important thing...

In Dune, I reacted to you the way I reacted to A PERSON I KNOW IS TOWN. Your suspicion of me was genuine, so whatevs.
In this game, I'm reacting to someone whose suspicion I find forced and unlikely.

You are doing the same thing BC did - attacking me based on my level of contribution. You've read this thread, so you know that I've already pointed out over and over why that is not a scum tell for me. So why, exactly, do you see it as one?

MacDougall wrote:An inconsistency there imo.

I disagree. I'd still have a slight town read on him.

He hasn't done anything in the game to change my read... or anyone elses. He has been literally entirely absent since then.

Are you trying to find my apparently minor inconsistency to avoid talking about your massive hulking one? You just took MP from 'team empire' to green on your rainbow with not so much as a hint of reason, like you were trying to slip it through, and you are trying to pass it off as though it shouldn't be questioned.

MacDougall wrote:
Golden wrote:
MacDougall wrote:
Golden wrote:
MacDougall wrote:That would be from what Jimmy refers to as the "eye test".
How do you reconcile that rainbow with your prior suspicion of MP - have you had reason to change your feeling on him?
Does that not go without saying?
No, it does not go without saying. I expect you to say it, in fact. Otherwise, I will have to assume there is no reason to change your feeling on him.
If I had a bad guy read on someone. Then they appear in a rainbow list as green. Consider that me having changed my read on him.

I didn't ask if you changed your read.

I asked you if you had a reason to.

If you can't tell me that reason, then I don't believe your read changed.

MacDougall wrote:
Golden wrote:
MacDougall wrote:That would be from what Jimmy refers to as the "eye test".
How do you reconcile that rainbow with your prior suspicion of MP - have you had reason to change your feeling on him?
Does that not go without saying?

No, it does not go without saying. I expect you to say it, in fact. Otherwise, I will have to assume there is no reason to change your feeling on him.

MacDougall wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:Sorry I've been gone for about a day. Yeah, Simon.
Where is your fire, zebra? Where is that supatown fire?
I paused to contemplate the same thing. This is exactly how I feel about Golden as well. The difference is that it kind of makes sense for Zebra. Zebra has made over 300 posts. I can't see any room left for contributions in a BTSC from her.

Golden on the other hand, there seems to be something left in the tank from him. And he's defensive when I question his contributions, quite rightly so theoretically since he still has a metric fuckton of posts, yet his contributions feel restrained somehow. Like he is leaving half his thoughts elsewhere.

Linki: Golden can you explain why you aren't suspicious of Russ? Russ has me mightily spooked.

Because he isn't bad.

MacDougall wrote:That would be from what Jimmy refers to as the "eye test".

How do you reconcile that rainbow with your prior suspicion of MP - have you had reason to change your feeling on him?

Glorfindel wrote:
Golden wrote:Oh, so it is on me that we haven't caught the empire, is it, mac?

If we want to catch the bad guys, it must be done by me... no-one else can do it...

If you want to find the empire, I know that you are also plenty capable of supatown.

(My best guesses for members of the empire - glorfindel and eloh).

My primary effort goes to World Reborn because it is in end game, and all up, across everything I'm doing... I will not be as present as would be ideal from now until after Christmas. I am super busy. There is a reason I was the last man on to sign ups, and why I've said I won't be signing up for any more for a while.

BC tried to make out like my relative quietness was a sign of my baddiness. Go back and read my defence to that. It would serve you well now.

linki @Mac - not every egg needs to broken on the same day. Take RYM 87. Two baddie teams in that one. No hint of who the second baddie team was until the first one was gone. First day of looking for the new team... hole blown straight in the side. The point is, every day we lynch a baddie is a good day. I don't feel the need to bust my nut trying to find a baddie I'm not even going to lynch today.
As this is my first (and in all likelihood last) game here I've deliberately stood on the sidelines so far this game trying to find my bearings amongst you all in this unfamiliar community and now feel compelled to make the following observation:

I'm frankly appalled at the exchange that started last night as a consequence of this post. There is absolutely no question that there is little if any objective analysis being undertaken by most people playing this game. Certainly, everyone is 'coasting' on the Simon bandwagon and I for one am not so naive or stupid to think for a second that sooner or later (although sadly probably sooner ) I will fall victim to this approach that I've seen displayed throughout the game. It seems to me that the majority of the players in this game just seem to be taking the easy way out all the time - eliminate the low posters, the strangers... Don't be concerned about the players who barely participate and then just drop of the planet (Russtifinko). Ignore people like Nijuukyoguo who (suspiciously in my view) just drop in out of nowhere to post a vote on me just after someone with an equally sparse voting record this game had just done the same thing...

And YOU Golden - you criticise everyone for sheeping and yet you nominate me as one of your prime candidates for lynching based on your "guess"? I'd have frankly expected more from a player of your reputation and obvious calibre. From an outsider's perspective, I continue to see an extraordinary lack of willingness on behalf of a lot of you to actively consider the potential guilt of players within your own clique and that myopia could very easily cost us this game.

My apologies if anyone takes offence at anything I've said above but please understand the frustration I am feeling with what I see happening here...

I will continue to not vote for Russti or Ninja, as well. I'm not concerned about either of them. If the only people you can name as suspects are people that I have absolutely no suspicion of, then I'm not going to create a whole lot of content about those suspicions.

A game cannot be solved in a day. If I recall correctly, you were one of the two who were upset at those expecting everyone to play the game the way people told them to... when they were being asked by zebra to generate content.

Now, you are upset because I proclaim there isn't a need to create content all the time.

I have difficulty reconciling these two statements. And if you think for one second my suspicion of you is a 'guess' in the sense that it is not backed up with activities in the thread... then I'm not sure you have a good grip on me yet.

I also note zebra seems extra quiet today - has she been silenced?

In b4 NZ jokes about how I should be intimately familiar with what a sheep is.

Oh, what we would call bandwagon. Right.

Sheep, according to Golden:

I think ninja would be a poor vote choice. I doubt llama will trust my view on that, though.

I know canuck - it's like - weighing simon's behaviour up against the evidence... what way to you go?

And I guess for me the answer was... if I didn't lynch simon, I'd just keep coming back to him because of those two votes being so hard to ignore.

If this game had a rezz anywhere and simon came back civ, I'd hope we could get him back.

I will be sad if Simon is not Team Hutt... well I'm sad for Simon either way, I wanted him to hang around longer. I always felt that my case was more indicative of enrique being bad and that simon might just have been in the wrong place at the wrong time. To break the tie in favour of a Hutt surviving twice would be very unlucky.

But, it is also very hard for me to ignore.

thellama73 wrote:
Golden wrote:@llama - your suspicion on me sounds like BC's suspicion. Where in my mafia career does 'laid back' equal 'bad'? Was I laid back in economics?
I prefer my Golden more on edge.

37 pages in. I'll finish before I vote.

I prefer my eggs scrambled.

That doesn't mean my hard-boiled egg is team empire.

@llama - your suspicion on me sounds like BC's suspicion. Where in my mafia career does 'laid back' equal 'bad'? Was I laid back in economics?

And I don't disagree that someone could be creating pressure on people they suspect. It's just that this person can't be me... not right now. But there are lots of people I think can do it. You, matt, zebra, MP... even plenty of quieter players in this game are competent at building pressure on their suspects with a minimum of posts.

I can't be 'on' every day right now. I just don't have the time. I have to pick and choose. After this lynch, I'll be making some effort to sort out the next thing.

Oh, so it is on me that we haven't caught the empire, is it, mac?

If we want to catch the bad guys, it must be done by me... no-one else can do it...

If you want to find the empire, I know that you are also plenty capable of supatown.

(My best guesses for members of the empire - glorfindel and eloh).

My primary effort goes to World Reborn because it is in end game, and all up, across everything I'm doing... I will not be as present as would be ideal from now until after Christmas. I am super busy. There is a reason I was the last man on to sign ups, and why I've said I won't be signing up for any more for a while.

BC tried to make out like my relative quietness was a sign of my baddiness. Go back and read my defence to that. It would serve you well now.

linki @Mac - not every egg needs to broken on the same day. Take RYM 87. Two baddie teams in that one. No hint of who the second baddie team was until the first one was gone. First day of looking for the new team... hole blown straight in the side. The point is, every day we lynch a baddie is a good day. I don't feel the need to bust my nut trying to find a baddie I'm not even going to lynch today.

Also voted simon.

MovingPictures07 wrote:I have an Econometrics II Final tomorrow and need to go back into crunch study mode.

I'll school you at Econometrics II, just like I did the first time around.

Dom wrote:
Golden wrote:
Matt wrote:What's this pull thing? I'm too lazy to even find a host post.

PULL

Haha
You just gambled away all your credits.

It's why I haven't pulled anything. Not even a finger.
If by all you mean 5....

I'm merely encouraging Matt to read the host posts, Dom!

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