The Syndicate

Epignosis wrote:.

Zomb had a lynch stop, so we were not concerned with her flipping, but she wasn't around, and come to find out, she hadn't adjusted her DST settings (I send the PM twice a year for a reason, people!), so I tried to save her anyway. I figured her lynch would be my downfall, but folks strangely went after Sophie instead.

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I know, right?


congrats, civvies!!!

LizKeen wrote:Well it's clear this vote isn't going any other way. I tried. On the plus side for the civvies I'm probably one of the better roles to lose as I have nothing to offer. No one will be receiving any items because I don't have any. I'm not the millionaire, I don't even know why Canuck thinks that.

Save me a seat at the bar Golden, Sophie and FS.

hey liz! Have a drink

Golden wrote:Sophie, come join me in the deadie lounge

Hey friend

He looks so suspicion in that pic. I should have kept Jessica

I think this was all Larry Davids fault

Piling up

Epignosis wrote:

Sophie wrote:Lynch switch please

Q: What do you call it when Sophie has a lynch switch?

A: Sophie's Choice

Lynch switch please

rabbit8 wrote:

Sophie wrote:

rabbit8 wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Who are you gonna vote today rabbit?

I'm leaning Sophie right now. It's much better than the DP case. I also want to look more at Dom. I think TH brings up a some very good points.

Dont vote for me

I'm convinced.

Of what?

rabbit8 wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Who are you gonna vote today rabbit?

I'm leaning Sophie right now. It's much better than the DP case. I also want to look more at Dom. I think TH brings up a some very good points.

Dont vote for me

fingersplints wrote:Sorry thanks rabbit I get it now.

Thanks rabbit??

fingersplints wrote:

Sophie wrote:

fingersplints wrote:

Sophie wrote:

LizKeen wrote:I hope you Sophie voters are right. My thing about DP is like I said earlier, unless that charm got stolen from BR before she was killed then it ended up in beasts hands. And if someone stole it from her they should know who the beast of Bremen is and I don't think I've seen anyone trying to impart that knowledge. I can see why someone would take my ear tubes and maybe a rare book but why an elephant charm?

They arent

They aren't what?

They arent right. Its pretty hard to erase part of a quote with my phone

I still don't get what you mean by "they aren't right" Who isn't right and what aren't they right about?

I was answering to liz keens post

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Also, for the record, Long Con claimed on Day 2 that his Ivory Arrow was stolen on Night 1. Who else would steal the Ivory Arrow other than the Celestials? This makes it less likely, though not impossible, that the Celestials stole BR 1.0's elephant on the same night.

So otherwise, if DP is a celestial, that means that the Celestials would have had three guesses to get accurately who had the elephant charm. Not only that, but they would have had to know the elephant charm was worth something to them, or at least made that assumption. Anyway, they had the Night 2 and Night 3 steals, as well as the Night 2 item checker to go after what they wanted. The odds here are low, but not impossible I'll concede.

Now there is the possibility that DP is a civilian item stealer, but is that a strong possibility?

And then there is the chance that he is the blonde beast of Bermuda, and yes there is a decent chance.

All this and the fact that a civ will get lynched today instead of him

fingersplints wrote:

Sophie wrote:

LizKeen wrote:I hope you Sophie voters are right. My thing about DP is like I said earlier, unless that charm got stolen from BR before she was killed then it ended up in beasts hands. And if someone stole it from her they should know who the beast of Bremen is and I don't think I've seen anyone trying to impart that knowledge. I can see why someone would take my ear tubes and maybe a rare book but why an elephant charm?

They arent

They aren't what?

They arent right. Its pretty hard to erase part of a quote with my phone

LizKeen wrote:I hope you Sophie voters are right. My thing about DP is like I said earlier, unless that charm got stolen from BR before she was killed then it ended up in beasts hands. And if someone stole it from her they should know who the beast of Bremen is and I don't think I've seen anyone trying to impart that knowledge. I can see why someone would take my ear tubes and maybe a rare book but why an elephant charm?

They arent

in any case, i hope my lynch helps shade some light to some peoples behaviour, and you guys lynch better tomorrow

i dont except to survive when many people expressed intention to vote me and i already have 3 votes

a baddie would maybe expect to survive cause they have teammates, but i know ill be a deadie later

Bullzeye wrote:

fingersplints wrote:

Bullzeye wrote:Home now. Knackered! Gonna catch up here and have a chilled out night of pizza and WrestleMania 31. Uni work will keep til tomorrow - speaking of which, it's the Easter break so for the next three weeks I can hopefully be more active.

If you haven't already don't forget to change your time settings.
yay for being still light out

Haha it was just about still light when I started my catch-up! :P Thanks for the reminder!

I think you have raised some really good points regarding Sophie. I think I may put a vote there this evening, definitely wouldn't feel comfortable voting DP just because he allegedly has an item when there are many non-baddie ways he could've got it.

im an easy lynch, ha?

maybe civvies should look at this bandwagony votes when i flip civvie (and btw, THIS are bandwagon votes, for those of you who dont understand the concept)

its really easy for the baddies to pile up on a civ lynch. let see how they pile up to vote me now.

fingersplints wrote:

Sophie wrote:

fingersplints wrote:

Sophie wrote:

Turnip Head wrote:Because I suspect Dom for things he has said and done, and I don't suspect DP for what he's said and done. I don't know how to make it any simpler than that.

he didnt say much at all in this game, though: http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/search ... 0&sr=posts
9 posts, 7 one liners, 2 off topic. I dont know how you can draw any conclussion from this nothing, imo

DP replaced in AFTER you Sophie. So it's ok you haven't contributed much because you are a replacement, but DP should be damned for it.

I have 74 posts. Long posts. DP has 9 post. 7 lines.

are you really comparing this 2????

You guys chose to compare them, not me. I have read through all your posts and they are not all long posts. There was that off topic bit about music and lots of posts confused about what is going on or asking for help. So yes, you have a lot of posts, but they aren't all on topic or relevant.
DP is always quiet. This isn't out of the ordinary for him. You are only quiet and blendy like you have been here when you are bad.

No, YOU said that i was saying that DP should be damned for what I was doing. And what I was doing wasnt what DP was doing at all. Call them blendy or whatever, but im still posting. You can draw conclusions from my posts because im POSTING. You can say im non commital or whatever, because im posting. Thats of course different to not posting at all. Of course NO ONE will be able to suspect DP for what he posted: he didnt posted at all. Thats what i said.

Really different than what YOU said, though

fingersplints wrote:

Sophie wrote:

Turnip Head wrote:Because I suspect Dom for things he has said and done, and I don't suspect DP for what he's said and done. I don't know how to make it any simpler than that.

he didnt say much at all in this game, though: http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/search ... 0&sr=posts
9 posts, 7 one liners, 2 off topic. I dont know how you can draw any conclussion from this nothing, imo

DP replaced in AFTER you Sophie. So it's ok you haven't contributed much because you are a replacement, but DP should be damned for it.

I have 74 posts. Long posts. DP has 9 post. 7 lines.

are you really comparing this 2????

Turnip Head wrote:Because I suspect Dom for things he has said and done, and I don't suspect DP for what he's said and done. I don't know how to make it any simpler than that.

he didnt say much at all in this game, though: http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/search ... 0&sr=posts
9 posts, 7 one liners, 2 off topic. I dont know how you can draw any conclussion from this nothing, imo

I cant believe i have so many votes. Lynching me wont achieve any good, people

I called him a baddie. People have just mentioned him. Thats hardly subtle.

Several votes? You mean two?

Thats hardly subtly suspecting him and its nothing like a bandwagon or mm. Thats a flat out lie and ridiculous.

Why dont you just lynch me, see who i am, and then you will gain clarity.

Im done defending myself from such a huge lie. Tell me i ve been lying low, tell me i havent contributed much compared to my usual civvie game, but dont say im jumping dps bandwagon cause thats just not true. Right or wrong, it is MY suspicion and ill stick or die to it if its neccesary.

fingersplints wrote:

Dom wrote:

Long Con wrote: Thank God I ain't too cool for the safe belt
They tipping the scale for these crackers to win
Lupe steal like Lupin the Third.
Screams from the haters, got a nice ring to it
people talking shit, but when the shit hit the fan

Would that require that person to have a safe, though?



I'm finding it hard to not suspect DP for the record.
Also, I'm eyeing MM, I guess? Because he has MP's old role?

What specifically do you find suspicious about DP? I am not suspicious of him at all for the record.

Ok, not wink. Just a smile.

Maybe you are trying to push suspicion on me to save dp, fs?

fingersplints wrote:

Sophie wrote:

Black Rock wrote:

LizKeen wrote:BR, what do you think about DP having the elephant charm?

I have no idea what happened to it after I died. It's something worth noting.

Doesnt baddies obtain the item from people they kill? You had the elephant charm now he haves it: probably a baddie

There is also a civvie thief and neutral- probably civvie friendly thief to account for as well. Objects have been changing hands in ways other then the kill.

Ok, then

I still suspect him fs. You apparently dont suspect him at all wink wink like you said in other one of your posts

*FLAT OUT


Sheesh, i call someone a baddie before anyone and vote for him the next day and apparently my suspicion is not legit. First time i hear this in mafia.

Also, when i was pushing on dp being bad it was fs who said there were many ways for dp to have it. Fs was defending him. It will be interesting if dp is mafia, fs is her teammate, and she is trying to unvalidate my suspicion to lynch me after dp

You were kinda defebding dp there fs, right?

fingersplints wrote:This here post from LizKeen is the first post about DP and the elephant charm.

In fact Sophie's first mention of the charm is this, where she is commenting on someone else talking about it:

Sophie wrote:

Black Rock wrote:

LizKeen wrote:BR, what do you think about DP having the elephant charm?

I have no idea what happened to it after I died. It's something worth noting.

Doesnt baddies obtain the item from people they kill? You had the elephant charm now he haves it: probably a baddie

linki - you are using the same quote. IT is a flat out lie that you created the suspicion. Both the original post I quoted and this one were well after Liz started that suspicion.

So that makes me a bandwagoner? I might be ubderstandibg the concept wrong, but hows someone who called someone a baddie before anyone in the game is a bandwagoner? Are u for real?

Liz brought up dps name and asked br her opinion, i GLAT OUT SAID HE WAS BADDIE.

How on earth doesnt this make me suspicion of him????

Sophie wrote:

Black Rock wrote:

LizKeen wrote:BR, what do you think about DP having the elephant charm?

I have no idea what happened to it after I died. It's something worth noting.

Doesnt baddies obtain the item from people they kill? You had the elephant charm now he haves it: probably a baddie

I also said this afterwards. Would you call anyone ekse who does this and votes dp the next day a bandwagoner?
I think i was the first one to put dp and baddie in the same sentenxe. Hardly a bandwagonet. That is a lie and you dont need it to suspect me this time

Im clearly not jumping in a bandwagon here, fs, and you know it.
I did it with MM, cause was too busy.
I subbed in when there were 20 pages already and thread was going fast. I was very busy that weekend so while i slowly catched up, other 20 pages were written.

Its ok if you dont believe me and wanna vote for me. But dont make me repeat all this things, i said them already. Dont make me show again why i voted dp and mentioned him before. Its all here in thr thread for anyone to see.

Vote me cause i have been somewhat lying low and not contributing compared to my usual civ game, that at least has merit, eventhough its wrong

More like

Sophie wrote:

Black Rock wrote:

LizKeen wrote:BR, what do you think about DP having the elephant charm?

I have no idea what happened to it after I died. It's something worth noting.

Doesnt baddies obtain the item from people they kill? You had the elephant charm now he haves it: probably a baddie

Hardly jumping on anything. More than creating it

birdwithteeth11 wrote:I don't get the push for DP at all. The only two reasons I can see for voting for him are:

1) Because of some item swapping that may or may not incriminate him due to lack of hard evidence.
2) Because he's normally such an easy target with being quiet. Attach #1 to it and viola, an easy lynch candidate!

I think FS is right on with Sophie, however. The fact that she jumps in and attaches herself to the DP bandwagon makes me feel even better about her lack of being involved.

Votes Sophie

Im not jumping on any bandwagon, i was the first to insist he might be bad for having the br item

Canucklehead wrote:I agree with splintsy's read on Sophie. I think she's dead on. I see NONE of the righteous indignation and demand for acknowledgement that marked Sophie's civ game in RR, andthis post and this one here, which came after splints called her out, reads very much to me like she's TRYING to manufacture that indignation and fieryness that is her civ game, but just ends up in apology land anyway, which is NOT civ Sophie from my (admitedly limited) experience.

Theres a reason why i was indignated (is that even a word?) then and not now.
Fingersplints and golden (i mention them cause they accused me there) know me. They have played with me many times. The fact thar they thought there was even a slight chance i was bad in RR fired me up. I was putting myself on the spotlight, had over 300 posts, participated in every vonversation, my name was brought up as a suspect for everyone of the baddies. It could be an obvious civvie game to anyone thar didnt know me, but it had to be more for them, specially im refeering to golden who accused me more than fs anyway. Also, i was a very very powerful role there, i had killed one baddie at night and was also planning to kill or target the main suspects to find out their allegation. I could be very useful and probably pivotal to win the game. Specially in the beggining when i had the whole game ahead of me. I could only kill even nights, so in the time i was alive i targeted a baddie night 2(but got blocked), killed a baddie night 6, and cleared the main suspect night 8. Of course i was gonna be adamant to live if i was not only a civvie, but the most powerful civvie i ever been and clearly the most powerful one in the game who could help so much to win. Plus, it was my first game in 2 yeara, that super role, playing with old pals. Yeah, i got frustrated with the possibilty of being lynched .

This isnt the case here: i havent been contributing much, my role is vanilla, and i frankly understand where splints is coming from. But im not bad.

You seemed too convinced, fs. Like you were in RR and were also wrong there.
Look, i ve subbed in in this game, and by the time i got here there were already 20 pages of very charged, heated day 1. While i was reading those 20 pages in the weekend i visited family, thread kept moving fast and got to be 40 pages long. So i was literally always behind. I have catch up but my head isnt completely in the game. I know i usually dont behave like this as a civ, but this time im one, i assure you. Real life and subbing in have been the reasons why i might not seem my civvie self, but be sure i am good.


Im gonna be voting dp today, i think he is bad

And, eventhough i have to agree with fs and juliets that im not behaving like i do when im civvie, the truth is i am civvie.

Well, splints, i agree with you that im not behaving civvie, though i am.

But the dfaraday thing holds no water, imo. If i were baddie and df my teammate, why would i ask only his opinion on thread? Would i be that stupid? I mean, i honestly think theres no way you really think i would be that stupid

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:Zomb's posts make me feel a better I'd say. I'm gonna go for Vomps.

Now what if we consider DP's only post from yesterday, as well as the timing of his vote?




DP voted for vomps to push the him closer to Zomba at 7-6.

This is interesting

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:Zomb's posts make me feel a better I'd say. I'm gonna go for Vomps.

Now what if we consider DP's only post from yesterday, as well as the timing of his vote?




DP voted for vomps to push the him closer to Zomba at 7-6.

This is interesting

I think my worded is incorrect in that sentence

But if someone gets killed and the next day this said person gets the dead person object, what would that mean?

Black Rock wrote:

LizKeen wrote:BR, what do you think about DP having the elephant charm?

I have no idea what happened to it after I died. It's something worth noting.

Doesnt baddies obtain the item from people they kill? You had the elephant charm now he haves it: probably a baddie

Though im behind on a few pages so i need to read qhat have happened and maybe my suspicions will change

fingersplints wrote:I forgot to say I'm also eyeing MM and bass because I'm a little confused about that situation. I doubt I would vote either.

My strongest suspect atm is Sophie. A civvie Sophie is generally much more vocal than this. also, I am a little suspicious of how she has twice now asked dfaraday for his opinion. just his. She claimed it was from knowing him from RM but there are several others she knows better or as well that she hasn't interacted with at all.

Linki alright rabbit I'm pretty sure you know I am not bad

I know i havent been contributing much, but its because i ve been very busy. Im sorry for not being a very contributibe civvie, but if you are looking for baddies you should look elsewhere.

My biggest suspects are epi and dp

Yay for getting a baddie!

Sorry for missing vote, was in uni longer than expected

Late, gotta go sleep, bb tomorrow

Canucklehead wrote:I was never on board with the LizKeen case, so I'm not voting there.
I had strongly considered voting Z, but I think SVS' assessment of her not likely having BTSC this game is pretty sound, so I won't vote there.
I thought Epi's case on LK was....not convincing, but I'm not sure why a bad Epi would push so hard against a player so early....considering a vote there.
LC is LC and I have no particular reason to think he's bad right now, but I don't know if I've ever read LC correctly. I'm not voting there unless something really compelling comes up.
TH seems like civ TH to me.
I think that MP/Bass is an interesting spot to look. I will reread there and maybe consider a vote.
I would consider a vote for Vomps.

What about dom?

LizKeen wrote:[quote="Zombarella"]BTW - You are the only other person I've met who watches the Black List. It really is a great show. I covet Liz's hair.

Golden wrote:I watch the blacklist

I covet Tom Keen. I used to think he was nerdy but now that he's a bad boy he's kinda hot. I don't know anyone who watches it but you two.


SVS, you must be getting up as I go to bed.

I'm really stuck between a rock and a hard place here. If I don't vote Zombarella and she gets lynched and flips bad then I'm going to be accused of being her teammate. If I vote her and she flips civvie then I'm helping lynch another civvie. This really sucks.[/quote]

As a civvie you dont have to think in "what looks good", you have to say what you think and claim whatever you think even if it goes against whatever the rest of the thread thinks.
If they wanna lynch you for it, its they loss, they would lynch a civvie. But maybe your thoughts would be revisited later and they could help the civvies.
At least thats how i play when im civ. Thats why im usually a suspicion every game, and thats why y always tend to survive till the late stages of the game, cause the baddies know they can bring me up for suspicion.

The ONLY times i care about "how things look" and try to really appear civvie, is when im bad. As a baddie i try to be consistent and not to say things "out of tune".

I think the best thing to do for civvies is speak their mind even if they get super suspected because of it




Btw, where is daniel faraday??

I kind of read zombad reaction as a frustrated civ, but i could be wrong since im often wrong about this. Is there a posdibilty she is teææing the truth, though? It reminds me of when im wrongfully accused by many (like in rr) and the frustration thatvbrings

rabbit8 wrote:

Long Con wrote:

rabbit8 wrote:I want to vote for Zomba, Liz, then maybe one of these low posters.

I do not have Epi down as civvie, but I'm not willing to lynch someone helping try to find baddies, Liz.

You seem to back peddle on everything you say Liz and that is very incriminating IMO.

What is she backpedalling about?

If you don't think Epig is a Civvie, then what makes you think he's actually trying to find baddies?

Are these some sort of joke questions?

Read her posts, she is back peddling on a lot of things. I'm not your secretary. I f you don't think she is back peddling on what she has brought up I have to wonder about your sanity and or allegiance.

I don't have Epi down a civvie or indy or a baddie. I think he is looking for baddies as I agree with some of his thoughts. What's your point exactly?

Im not your secretary

BR: just checking if i understood it correctly