The Syndicate

Epignosis wrote:

sig wrote:

Epignosis wrote:At present, I would be willing to vote sig or Scotty, but my willingness needs reason.

Your reason to vote for Scotty would be to tie it with Sig, and sig is awesome.

Or you could join me and vote for Ika.

sig.

ika.

I don't do, "Hey help me lynch this guy" and "join me and vote that guy!"

how about no. how about you help me lynch sig, or you could jsut help scuma nd vote me

i like how for all of the ohter days i was never batted an eye and now suddenly i get suspected for whatever reason

more votes on sig plz

sigh.....

sig wrote:Nice of Ika to slip in that nice NO U fly by vote also

It was never a no u vote not have I ever public claimed my votes all game so nice misrepresentaion

Epignosis wrote:In a nutshell so far:

Somebody: "Let's lynch so-and-so."
About half of everybody else: "Okay."
Somebody else: "No, let's lynch this other person"
A number of the other half: "Okay."

pretty much.....

now help me lynch sig

thellama73 wrote:

Nerolunar wrote:Yeah I dont think we should rule out Lorab either.

I do. Lynch switch is a civ power. Unless she got lucky with the power steal, I am comfortable ruling her out.

doubt its any power steal or anything of the sort, i bet the person used their power

and frankly im not in any mood to try to defend myself nor care to.

lynch me and then lynch sig/llama/dasiy

sig wrote:

ika wrote:so sig/llama are sucm and daisy porb third

loool that makes no sense. I'm now mafia since I voted you and Daisy/llama are my teammates. I doubt any of use are that sloppy to tie THE ENTIRE TEAM TOGETHER. Nah your mafia and flailing around.


I didn't vote for llama since my mafia read on him is dependent on how you flip, why are so eager for me to switch from one scum to the other why does it matter?


In the wise words on a not so wise women.

"At this point what difference does it make!?"

becasue your setting up associatives pre-flip and doing what llama did "oh if dfar is scum daisy is too" its not one way

so sig/llama are sucm and daisy porb third

sig wrote:N

Polo wrote:

ika wrote:read the end of your post i quoted, you said "IF I FLIP CIV"

You know ika, your attitude in this game is very different from EST mafia. You've been much more aggressive. What happened?

Day 3 he was killed that night, I don't think it is a coincidence he suspected Ika and was then killed. I'm starting to believe more and more that Ika is mafia, potentially with Llama as a teammate. I'd like to lynch Ika today.

VOTE IKA

I'll ISO him soon.

besides that not much from Polo some early suss on Dom, but he later reads him as civ. As well as daisy and a slight civ read on Ika and maybe on Epi. This actually adds more weight to my Ika theory. Kill the player who suspected then changed his stance on you. It gets rid of an issue and isn't as likely to lead back to the killer.

if you think im scum with llama why do you vote me instead?

Spacedaisy wrote:No and no.

I'm at work now but when I get how in a couple hours I will post a list of the people I suspect and am possibly interested in voting.

we can lynch you instead

DrWilgy wrote:Do we wanna lynch Sig today?

Maybe, how about llama first?

llama might be scum with dasiy

Polo wrote:

ika wrote:read the end of your post i quoted, you said "IF I FLIP CIV"

You know ika, your attitude in this game is very different from EST mafia. You've been much more aggressive. What happened?

....

tell me how i was not aggresive in there?

like my town play is agressive, scum me tends to eb more passive

read the end of your post i quoted, you said "IF I FLIP CIV"

Spacedaisy wrote:

ika wrote:

Spacedaisy wrote: If you can't see how weak this case is, then I don't even know what to say to you. And the worst part is you all have spent all day talking about me and no one else really so it's highly unlikely anyone else will get lynched. So ika, I want to place a sig bet with you, Dom and/or Llama. When I flip I want you to put "I made a ridiculous case against Spacedaisy in Downton and was wrong about her," in your sig if I am civ.

hey dasiy, i jsut noticed, this, why did you use a conditional "if i am civ"

and im telling you when you cant read people that you need to lynch them cus it makes no sense for town to go "i cant read them so leave them"

I don't know what you are saying here ika. The bet I gave was if I am lynched and flip civ you would put that in your signature. I know for a fact I will flip civ, so it's a question of how sure you are that I'm bad and how willing are you to put your reputation/pride on the line.

you relaize i never cared for cases and that i hardly make any and that when i do they are alwasy shit right? so your sig means nothing overall?

sig wrote:Okay well I'm not going to end the day voting for me. So instead I'll vote for Lo Rab I'd rather she is lynched then Daisy, and the case on her is better.

cases are overraited, daisy is sucm

im convinced dasiy is scum, whoever has the "check BTCS" one check diasy tonight

Spacedaisy wrote: If you can't see how weak this case is, then I don't even know what to say to you. And the worst part is you all have spent all day talking about me and no one else really so it's highly unlikely anyone else will get lynched. So ika, I want to place a sig bet with you, Dom and/or Llama. When I flip I want you to put "I made a ridiculous case against Spacedaisy in Downton and was wrong about her," in your sig if I am civ.

hey dasiy, i jsut noticed, this, why did you use a conditional "if i am civ"

and im telling you when you cant read people that you need to lynch them cus it makes no sense for town to go "i cant read them so leave them"

daisy or dfar are my votes

and daisy should know im willing to take on bets

Spacedaisy wrote:I'm done talking, you all have already decided. I would just ask that when I am lynched and flip civ, please lynch llama next, so that he is the victim of his own faulty logic as well. He did after all, vote to lynch bubbles and then turn around and wanted to lynch me for her lynch. Takes zero responsibility for his own actions and lynches me because he claims I am protecting DF from lynch, despite the fact he has no idea what DF's role is. That is the basis of this freaking lynch, it's the stupidest case against me I have ever seen and if llama and Dom and ika are not bad, they are going to be eating a ton of crow when this lynch is over.

NIce AtE

if you dont know how to read someone you lynch them, the fact you have been saving his ass all game long and not town reading him is quite telling n itself

i feel liek thsi game is going nowhere and its jsut back and forth aboutt he same things....

lets lynch dasy!

Scotty wrote:

ika wrote:

Scotty wrote:Ika what do you think of:
Dom
Daisy
DFaraday
Dip n' dots

i would lynch them all if i had multi-lynching powers. if you asking for reasons then i need more time for that and that can be done in a little bit

What happened to this? Little bit is preferred in this day cycle por favor.

Also why did you vote for Sorsha and not announce it or explain your vote?

i got busy. dom i still suspect cus jsut out of guts, daisly has been constantly going "im town" but lacks the convicton i would see form town

dfar should be self explaintory.

as for my voting, have you seen me ever announce my votes where its not required?

Scotty wrote:

sig wrote:

sig wrote:I see three scenarios here.

1. Ika is mafia and killed Silver before she could get a strong read on him.
2. Someone killed Silver to frame Ika, this points to an experienced mafia member.
3. Silver mainly talked about DF, Epi, and LC around the time of her death and EOD. One of them is mafia and killed her.

I'm requoting this, the more I think about the more likely it is to be true, plus I think all three would think that Ika could be framed for Silver's death. I'll do the leg work for it over the phase, I'm just throwing out some thoughts right now.

Yes, I thought about this, and I'm actually surprised ika hasn't talked about this point more. If I recall, he and silver like to feast on NK analytics. Though some people, like (arbitrarily) baddie DFaraday has admitted to preferring to kill people that support him or aren't involved with him one way or another to throw people off the trail. This wouldn't seem like a baddie DFaraday move.
I could be behind LC though.

i wish not to believe that ika is bad because a) that would undermine the role that takes people off the poll and b) he is acting vastly different than his last baddie game. Too much WIFOM in the argument that he killed his wolf partner.

ive been trying to push it but been largly ignored....

Long Con wrote:

ika wrote:

Long Con wrote:

Epignosis wrote:With no message from Lady Edith, that means Edith was blocked, could not muster the inspiration to write a solitary word, or the poor girl is dead somewhere in the English wilderness, her body probably consumed by wolves of silver.

I doubt Edith was blocked, I think it's more likely that she missed sending in her PM. The killer could have been blocked as well, instead of a successful protection.

which would imply thats black rock based on her not being around no?

That's my assumption, yes.

fair enough

Scotty wrote:Ika what do you think of:
Dom
Daisy
DFaraday
Dip n' dots

i would lynch them all if i had multi-lynching powers. if you asking for reasons then i need more time for that and that can be done in a little bit

Long Con wrote:

Epignosis wrote:With no message from Lady Edith, that means Edith was blocked, could not muster the inspiration to write a solitary word, or the poor girl is dead somewhere in the English wilderness, her body probably consumed by wolves of silver.

I doubt Edith was blocked, I think it's more likely that she missed sending in her PM. The killer could have been blocked as well, instead of a successful protection.

which would imply thats black rock based on her not being around no?

Scotty wrote:

ika wrote:so im removed from lycnh todday and doc pulled off a save.

nice

scotty i seocnd that why lorab why not dom or daisy or something like that i need to read your lsit again

Well you read my list then and get back to me why you think those 2 deserve more of a

i read it and understand now

did you defar read change at all

Spacedaisy wrote:Llama, so I should not point out someone's lack of logic because I told you tosuspect me all you like? Riiiiiight. You just aren't use to such an engaged Daisy. Regardless what you think, I'm civ.

Ika did you say why sorsha?

no reason offhand.

i do find it odd that you keep empatizig your a civ, any reason? it makes me doubt you more

thellama73 wrote:

ika wrote:so im removed from lycnh todday and doc pulled off a save.

nice

scotty i seocnd that why lorab why not dom or daisy or something like that i need to read your lsit again

Why would anyone remove you from the lynch poll? No one is even thinking about lynching you, are they?

beats me.

i mean i could theory redirced but meh

so im removed from lycnh todday and doc pulled off a save.

nice

scotty i seocnd that why lorab why not dom or daisy or something like that i need to read your lsit again

Polo wrote:

Dom wrote:Are you new or something?

Yes. How many more times need I stress that?

HEY BUDDY ARE YOU NEW, NO BUDDY YOU ARE NEW HERE, LIKE BUDDY ARE YOU NEW?

:P

(dont answer it i am board and need to crack a joke)

LoRab wrote:
Why are you speculating in the thread about who has a civilian role?

sometimes i get board and like to try to figure peoples roles

Spacedaisy wrote:Oh you are allowed to have whatever reads you like, but the way you phrased that made it sound as though I was second on your list because of silver's reads you were going to push. You should listen to her read on me, she was right.

Epi didn't ever go after me for my posts that I recall.

Yep I was wrong on my theory regarding bubbles replacement, I sure it won't be the last time I'm wrong I my mafia career. It is what it is.

its a mixture of both, jsut becuase i say something of the sort base don phrasing does not mean its the literal thing.

jsut like how epi was saying "univeral town read" eand everyone when thats not exactly how i apply it all the time. i tend to use a lot of words like that

Spacedaisy wrote:

ika wrote:

Epignosis wrote:Let me run this question by you, ika: Instead of telling Lord Grantham what he should have done, why not tell us who you think murdered Silverwolf? That would be the most helpful use of your time. I find it bizarre that I should even have to raise this question to you.

well im goign to look at her read and lynch the people she was supecting and go from there.

i knwo dfar was one of them so im starting there tommorw

daisy is a close second

ill have to read the rest of he reads

That's interesting since she was town reading me.

am i not allowed to have reads indepent of her as well?

i would like to hear your thought on this flip, if you already commented could you quote it?

i mean after all you were one of the main wagoners about it

sig wrote:

ika wrote:hey sig would it be too far fetched that epi is the silencer?

I wouldn't say it was far fetched, but I wouldn't say there is any proof that he is.

well consdiering how he seemed to be beithcing about me being unslilenced?

doesnt any of his iso seem to lead to anything of thinking that?

hey sig would it be too far fetched that epi is the silencer?

Scotty wrote:

ika wrote:

Scotty wrote:Well. That sucked.

Will be back later tomorrow. My reads are still messed up and this recent turn did nothing to help me. I'm as blind as a bat in a hail storm. Meaning I'm still blind, but I'm also in a hail storm.

also i wantedd to yell a bucnh at you, keep on track with silvers reads and push those

Ok, dad

well we both though youn were obvious town on day 1 and to see you kinda waffle around wanted me to go "SCOTTY FOCUS"

how about this: do you have a color list that you could make off top of head

Scotty wrote:Well. That sucked.

Will be back later tomorrow. My reads are still messed up and this recent turn did nothing to help me. I'm as blind as a bat in a hail storm. Meaning I'm still blind, but I'm also in a hail storm.

also i wantedd to yell a bucnh at you, keep on track with silvers reads and push those

Epignosis wrote:
why would she not be killed n1? she died n2 in heist that you were follwing and i knwo shes not everyones top civ read but she was univeraly town read comapred to everyone else or do you have soemthing to disprove that

Night 2 is not Night 1. I would not have expected Mafia to kill her Night 1 because I think the two of you can be manipulated to defend each other or work with each other to the mafia's favor. I don't know what heist I was following where she died Night 2.

She was not "universally town read." Nobody is Day and Night 1 unless you are bad and know better. Universally means everybody, and everybody didn't agree she was good.[/quote]

when players die early, (night 1/2) in other games i would look into that. its not the point that it was night 2, it was that she died early. that would lead it to have er dying n1 as well. if i was the doc i would of already portected her.

as for the second part about us being maipulated, i doubt it. long con (who i suspect still aslo) was someone that was budding her. it felt like his enitre play for the msot part was trying to get on her good side from what i recall.

and yes i get she was not "universally" town read, but she was the most town read player.

Epignosis wrote:Let me run this question by you, ika: Instead of telling Lord Grantham what he should have done, why not tell us who you think murdered Silverwolf? That would be the most helpful use of your time. I find it bizarre that I should even have to raise this question to you.

well im goign to look at her read and lynch the people she was supecting and go from there.

i knwo dfar was one of them so im starting there tommorw

daisy is a close second

ill have to read the rest of he reads

Epignosis wrote:

ika wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

ika wrote:ill get ot this later i got a lot of stuff to do now that i am home

im quetion who the doc is too why were they not on silver n1?

If I were "the doc" (and I think you mean "Lord Grantham"), I would not be "on silver n1."

why?

Because I would not have expected Mafia to kill her Night 1, and she was not my top pick as a civilian, as much as you would expect everyone to believe.

why would she not be killed n1? she died n2 in heist that you were follwing and i knwo shes not everyones top civ read but she was univeraly town read comapred to everyone else or do you have soemthing to disprove that

i think thats most everything about it?

its was dumb to lynch that, dfar needs rope tommorw,him or MM im using silvers reads to lycnht em all

Polo wrote:Then I have three scenarios in my mind:

1) SIlverwolf was Lady Rose MacClare;
2) Lady Rose MacClare targeted ika but ika got silenced;
3) Lady Rose MacClare is someone else who did not use the Insanify ability. Why is that?
3.1) Nobody was insanified because Lady Rose didn't want to use her power (booo);
3.2) Lady Rose MacClare is one of those people who have yet to catch up, e.g. Bubbles or Matt.

silverwolf would never ansaify me either

sig wrote:

Epignosis wrote:I'm almost positive Polo is a civilian.

I agree with Epi here.

@Ika Why do you think Silver was killed?

because of her reads

Epignosis wrote:

ika wrote:ill get ot this later i got a lot of stuff to do now that i am home

im quetion who the doc is too why were they not on silver n1?

If I were "the doc" (and I think you mean "Lord Grantham"), I would not be "on silver n1."

why?

ill get ot this later i got a lot of stuff to do now that i am home

im quetion who the doc is too why were they not on silver n1?

Matt wrote:After SW was lynched...

thellama73 wrote:I guess we can rule out Ika as being mafia, then, can't we?

Why? From what little I've seen of them, they pride themselves on being able to see right through each other, so ika NKing the Wolf would actually make sense so she doesn't catch on to him later.

and you would relaize i would never kill her as logn as she town reads me

AND FIANNLY NOT FUCKING SILENCED OMFG.......

Epignosis wrote:I want to lynch Black Rock tomorrow. Who is with me in this endeavor?

I rather lynch long con

Silverwolf wrote:Is it just my imagination or is Long Con agreeing with me a lot?

Your not imagining things. I kinda noticed it near EoD.