The Syndicate

zebra how come you voted black rock? last time you were against lurker lynched and how it seems to have played out BR would be a lurker no?

a2thezebra wrote:If you're defining who your allies and who your enemies are by their win condition exclusively, you're in deep shit. End of discussion.

well consdiering how golden has not stated any wincons, why should we not define it by wincons?

a2thezebra wrote:lmao these poor newcomers

for real, they should of seen us fighing in heist

i aleady offered others to make a new dicussion and it would porb be moved on but nobody is saying anything so......

idgt?

a2thezebra wrote:
ika wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:
ika wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:I'm pretty sure you started it because you realized that you were contradicting yourself so you had to improvise a new definition for the term "scum" as it is normally used in this game just so you could keep arguing without admitting defeat.
im not at all. scum and mafia are two different terms
Okay, I'll play. What do each of them mean?
maifa= a player who aligned to the mafia spcifcly and can not with with any other faciton toher them mafia otherwise stated

scum= a player who does not have a town wincon or shares wincons with a said player
And which of these are the cylons? Or are they both? Or are they neither?

i think ym statements on my stance of cyclons has made it clear. i have been callign them scum all game long. so where do you tihnk they go?

if i player more games that had multiball mechanics or something like this gaem has you would be seeing that i do use the terminology of mafia/WW/3rd party for respective players.

in downtoan abbey i called the doctor (who was sig) to be scum. his wincon was not town so peraonlly i didnt care hat happens to him

a2thezebra wrote:
ika wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:I'm pretty sure you started it because you realized that you were contradicting yourself so you had to improvise a new definition for the term "scum" as it is normally used in this game just so you could keep arguing without admitting defeat.
im not at all. scum and mafia are two different terms
Okay, I'll play. What do each of them mean?

maifa= a player who aligned to the mafia spcifcly and can not with with any other faciton toher them mafia otherwise stated

scum= a player who does not have a town wincon or shares wincons with a said player

a2thezebra wrote:I don't know whether to laugh or cry at that. You're literally pretending to not know the definition of the term to try and save your argument.

im not, i know the term of a mafia and the term of a scum

zebra if you dont belive me you can easly go see the downtown abbey game as well, even thought the doc was aligned to eb town-sided i called him scum still

S~V~S wrote:I have no idea what to say, and that pretty much never happens.

what doesnt?

a2thezebra wrote:I'm pretty sure you started it because you realized that you were contradicting yourself so you had to improvise a new definition for the term "scum" as it is normally used in this game just so you could keep arguing without admitting defeat.

im not at all. scum and mafia are two different terms

juliets wrote:
ika wrote:
juliets wrote: If the cylons are all mafia (12) and some of the humans are cylons (lets say 2) then that would bring us up to 14 mafia against 16 civs. That just cannot be the case.
here i got a few quesitons, did i ever say they are mafia to beign with? did i ever say they all have the same wincon? did i ever once say "oh they all have BTCS together"

ill wait
I also thought when you said scum you meant mafia. Scum has always meant mafia on this site. But you say you did not mean that so I think I'm just going to drop the subject for now. We are going around and around getting nowhere.

the facepalm is real

a2thezebra wrote:You never go full semantics.

hey hes the one who started it

a2thezebra wrote:You two know that no one is reading any of your back-and-forth at this point right?

you could alwasy bring up something new and i would talk to you

Ricochet wrote:
ika wrote:
Ricochet wrote:
Nope. You're wiggling because the only weapon you have left right now appears to be appeal to how "literal" you were by never using the word "mafia". Nice use of "goal post" fallacy, btw, I must have used it three times before you thought of memorizing it and using it (poorly) in your own texts.

Btw, no answer from you, is scum not the term of mafia players, in a game of mafia?
i never once use the word mafia and for very good reasons. your the one trying to misrepresent my post by "litarly" saying mafia=scum when it does not.

scum=scum
mafia=maifa

so plz misrepresent more
Is scum not the term of mafia players, in a game of mafia?

no its not.

Ricochet wrote:
ika wrote:
Ricochet wrote:
Because it's not revealed in the roles that all cylons are.
but the basic show is cylon vs human so agrment ffailed
Because not all cylons in the show were.
ireeilvent to the overall point
Because there was no reveal that Epig is scum in his lynch post, leaving it, at the bare minimum, to the thought that it's open to interpret. Hence, that not all cylons might be scum.
hi pot im kettle we are both blakc

Said it time and again, like I said.
and i will keep refuting you time and time again
There is no such thing as "basic show". This show has had four seasons, what's the basic part of the show and what's the non-basic part of it. There is a show in which a "basic" conflict evolved into something more complex. It does not stand to reason that it's proof of "basic" being the standard of this game.

How is it not irrelevant?

Oh I see, you've gotten tired of arguments after just one point out of three. Coolio.

i showed all 3

your first is refuted by the fact the show follows humans vs cylons still

the seocnd is not the case as shown already

and the thrid is a pot/kettle arugment cus you litarly did that to me about the vote poll title and now you are using the same argument

ObscureAllure wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:This is getting reeeeeeally dumb.

[ytubehd][/ytuehd]
I feel like I'm at a trump political rally

i swear if trump wins im giving up on life

Ricochet wrote:
Nope. You're wiggling because the only weapon you have left right now appears to be appeal to how "literal" you were by never using the word "mafia". Nice use of "goal post" fallacy, btw, I must have used it three times before you thought of memorizing it and using it (poorly) in your own texts.

Btw, no answer from you, is scum not the term of mafia players, in a game of mafia?

i never once use the word mafia and for very good reasons. your the one trying to misrepresent my post by "litarly" saying mafia=scum when it does not.

scum=scum
mafia=maifa

so plz misrepresent more

Ricochet wrote:
Because it's not revealed in the roles that all cylons are.
but the basic show is cylon vs human so agrment ffailed
Because not all cylons in the show were.
ireeilvent to the overall point
Because there was no reveal that Epig is scum in his lynch post, leaving it, at the bare minimum, to the thought that it's open to interpret. Hence, that not all cylons might be scum.
hi pot im kettle we are both blakc

Said it time and again, like I said.

and i will keep refuting you time and time again

Ricochet wrote:
ika wrote:
Ricochet wrote:
ika wrote:annnnn dyou havent refuted the point at all. good jop on making ameaningless post
"Did I ever say they were mafia to begin"

Pages of "all cylons are scum". Literally pages.

I am really sorry your brain is stuck and you have absolutely no way of escaping your own contradictions. I truly am.
i find it funny you are tryign to compare apples ot organges. you litralyhave poroven my point that i have not once called them mafia. i have eben calling them scum
Lol. Wiggle wiggle wiggle. Is scum not the term for mafia players? Is this an alternate universe?

im not wiggling at all your the one whos chaing goal post now.

i mean if you want to argue the later we are in battlestare glaxia with is techancly a diffrent universe

Ricochet wrote:
ika wrote:
Ricochet wrote:
ika wrote:
Ricochet wrote:
Don't know what that means. The lore you reference is that cylons were at war with humans until both factions got more divided and the concept of cylons as antagonists got completely nuanced.

So no, I cannot translate that into cylons need to die, because they're mafia, in this game. If it's not because they're mafia, but because "agenda", then as I've said, good luck with that.
you poor poor child
Glad I gave you the incentive to keep acting like a fourth grader. Page me when you reply to arguments with arguments, cool?
say the kid who has yet to refute my poitns i have made
I did time and again.

nah not really, you have yet to prove to me how cylons are not scum

Ricochet wrote:
ika wrote:annnnn dyou havent refuted the point at all. good jop on making ameaningless post
"Did I ever say they were mafia to begin"

Pages of "all cylons are scum". Literally pages.

I am really sorry your brain is stuck and you have absolutely no way of escaping your own contradictions. I truly am.

i find it funny you are tryign to compare apples ot organges. you litralyhave poroven my point that i have not once called them mafia. i have eben calling them scum

Ricochet wrote:
ika wrote:
Ricochet wrote:
Don't know what that means. The lore you reference is that cylons were at war with humans until both factions got more divided and the concept of cylons as antagonists got completely nuanced.

So no, I cannot translate that into cylons need to die, because they're mafia, in this game. If it's not because they're mafia, but because "agenda", then as I've said, good luck with that.
you poor poor child
Glad I gave you the incentive to keep acting like a fourth grader. Page me when you reply to arguments with arguments, cool?

say the kid who has yet to refute my poitns i have made

@GOLDEN whats the status of replacing IAWY?

annnnn dyou havent refuted the point at all. good jop on making ameaningless post

Ricochet wrote:
Don't know what that means. The lore you reference is that cylons were at war with humans until both factions got more divided and the concept of cylons as antagonists got completely nuanced.

So no, I cannot translate that into cylons need to die, because they're mafia, in this game. If it's not because they're mafia, but because "agenda", then as I've said, good luck with that.

you poor poor child

juliets wrote: If the cylons are all mafia (12) and some of the humans are cylons (lets say 2) then that would bring us up to 14 mafia against 16 civs. That just cannot be the case.

here i got a few quesitons, did i ever say they are mafia to beign with? did i ever say they all have the same wincon? did i ever once say "oh they all have BTCS together"

ill wait

Ricochet wrote:
ika wrote:
Ricochet wrote:
I clearly know about the lore that it's not as basic as it sounds. I clearly have belief in this game that it could not be as basic as it sounds.

The places detail doesn't change the facts. Are all Cylons scum? If yes, then you have 12 scum. Is that reasonable for this game's ratio? If no, then maybe rethink the idea that all Cylons are scum.

Two separate places happens to apply to every single role in the design, btw.
your sill missing my point that im making, your such a niave little boy its kinda mausing
Make it again and I'll retrace my steps as well. By all means.

sure, cylonds need to die check your lore with that and you might figure out somehting

a2thezebra wrote:Oh my god lmao

"niave little boy"

im dying

glad i can amuse people still

Ricochet wrote:
I clearly know about the lore that it's not as basic as it sounds. I clearly have belief in this game that it could not be as basic as it sounds.

The places detail doesn't change the facts. Are all Cylons scum? If yes, then you have 12 scum. Is that reasonable for this game's ratio? If no, then maybe rethink the idea that all Cylons are scum.

Two separate places happens to apply to every single role in the design, btw.

your sill missing my point that im making, your such a niave little boy its kinda mausing

juliets wrote:
ika wrote:
juliets wrote:So if all cylons are bad we are sitting here with 12 mafia, 16 civs, and 1 secret role. Does that seem reasonable?
and you thinkn 12 scums put together sounds reasonsable? its kinda clear they prob dont know each other offhand
I wrote an answer but Ricochet just took the words right out of my mouth.

multiball much? i mena its clear people all have some weird wincons at this point and polos wincon aligns with the cyclons

Ricochet wrote:
You're welcome, if it makes you feel better, my child.

how old are you? like real talk im curoius now

Ricochet wrote:
True. But if all Cylons are mafia and 12 scums to 16 civs doesn't sound reasonable, it must mean it doesn't sound reasonable for all Cylons to be mafia.

Q.E.D.

for somoen whos all about lore your clearly not knowing much.

not only have i disproven it by makign a simple obsevation of "oh look two seprate places and that they might not see eahc other"

your not even reaidng

Ricochet wrote:
ika wrote:
Ricochet wrote:
ika wrote:litarly we can argue all day and im not going to be swayed one bit
I don't personally give one frak about you being swayed in any way. You're incorrigible and I came to that conclusion long ago.

Funny, though, how you started using some shred of arguments after Silverwolf came in the thread and offered material to use. Until then, you were on autopilot shouting and spamming "Cylons must die".
then why even adress it to me? i mean if your that convicned you shouldnt even respond then. it shows you cleary dont belive what your sayign right now
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

I've had better losers at arguing than this when I was in fourth grade.

thank you for proving my point all the more

Ricochet wrote:
ika wrote:
juliets wrote:So if all cylons are bad we are sitting here with 12 mafia, 16 civs, and 1 secret role. Does that seem reasonable?
and you thinkn 12 scums put together sounds reasonsable? its kinda clear they prob dont know each other offhand
Nobody said the mafia is 12 players, if the mafia will be mixture of humans and cylons.

On the other hand, the mafia WILL be 12 players, if you keep insisting Cylons are inherently scum, because the Final Five are, *gasp*, Cylons.

Think about it for a sec, it might blow your mind.

i have been thinking about it scince i got my rolecard silly

Ricochet wrote:
ika wrote:litarly we can argue all day and im not going to be swayed one bit
I don't personally give one frak about you being swayed in any way. You're incorrigible and I came to that conclusion long ago.

Funny, though, how you started using some shred of arguments after Silverwolf came in the thread and offered material to use. Until then, you were on autopilot shouting and spamming "Cylons must die".

then why even adress it to me? i mean if your that convicned you shouldnt even respond then. it shows you cleary dont belive what your sayign right now

and i have been doing this for a while now even after silver siad it so funny

Ricochet wrote:I'm now actually curious to see if and when a human will flip scum and shatter everything ika and Silverwolf have put their basis in .

ika wrote:
Ricochet wrote:
Oh wow, moving the goalposts, so now the poll title is relevant to deciphering the design of this game? Lol no. A lynch poll is a lynch poll, Hosts flavor the question however they wish.

The lore is not fully about cylons vs humans, if the entire series was transposed into this (which the Final Five detail may prove to be the case).
funny, i mentioned it earlier and you said nothign about it. im jsut saying what golden seems to be saying if we are going to use his words as matt has said.

i also like how you ignored the other more strong points i made, great discredit
I didn't notice when you mentioned it earlier, I'm busy replying in real time to an avalanche of posts, if you haven't noticed.

If I haven't addressed something, you can always back the discussion up and point to it. Everything notable you brought up I did not ignore. Simple as that.

thats for yout o find. im not going to bring up odl stuff

Matt wrote:
ika wrote:
Matt wrote:I'm officially voting Ika Day 2.

As he says, scum must die.
cool good thing im not sucm
Well you def ain't civvie so yup, "cool".

willign to bet on it matt?

juliets wrote:So if all cylons are bad we are sitting here with 12 mafia, 16 civs, and 1 secret role. Does that seem reasonable?

and you thinkn 12 scums put together sounds reasonsable? its kinda clear they prob dont know each other offhand

Matt wrote:I'm officially voting Ika Day 2.

As he says, scum must die.

cool good thing im not sucm

and the more you even mention it the more im goign to argue otherwise

litarly we can argue all day and im not going to be swayed one bit

a2thezebra wrote:You're just being stubborn at this point, you know you're wrong.

no, cylons are scum they all die

Ricochet wrote:
Oh wow, moving the goalposts, so now the poll title is relevant to deciphering the design of this game? Lol no. A lynch poll is a lynch poll, Hosts flavor the question however they wish.

The lore is not fully about cylons vs humans, if the entire series was transposed into this (which the Final Five detail may prove to be the case).

funny, i mentioned it earlier and you said nothign about it. im jsut saying what golden seems to be saying if we are going to use his words as matt has said.

i also like how you ignored the other more strong points i made, great discredit

a2thezebra wrote:
ika wrote:
Matt wrote:
Nah, it's literally humans and cylons vs cylons in the end.
you have now proven my poitn that cylons are scum they should all die
No, he has now proven you wrong that all cylons are bad. If we're going to be siding with them to defeat others, that means that the ones that we side with aren't the ones we should focus on defeating. Capiche?

nope, he said cylons are evil in ther himself, it doesnt matter what it is, cylonds must die

Matt wrote:
ika wrote:
Matt wrote:
Silverwolf wrote:Tough shit Ricochet. Others might be interested. Yours and others strong willingness to say Epi is good or shoot down those trying to say otherwise, is an auto scumread from me.

Because your wincon is antitown then or scum.
Barring shenani actions such as Epi really being Boomer but appearing as Athena upon death, Epi is good. Scum read me, vote me, I don't care. I'll be saying this until the end of the game.

Please tell me, Silverwolf, why do you want to destroy a role who is willing to do anything for the good of the human race?

Please, answer.

Also, still here for about 20, 30 min apparently.
maybce cus cylons are scum and that they need to be dead?
Answer the question. Why do you want to destroy a role who has done nothing but kick ass for the humans in the show the game is based on?

Why did Golden tell everyone to put trust in those who know the lore of the show? Why?

i think my question answers you damn question just fine in itself. YES I WANT THE FUCKIGN CYLON DEAD

he did? quote it i take that for a grain of salt anyways. if he did

Ricochet wrote:
ika wrote:
Ricochet wrote:Inference that this game must be about as basic as another game that proved highly basic is about the silliest fallacy possible.
who said that, that is the reason? the point she is trying to make here is that cyclosn are scum in gerneal and a game there shows that its the same, hell the lore itself says they are sucm and the entire plot of the thing seems to be killing cylons so whats your damn point?
The lore (theme) itself in a Battlestar Galactica on MS is the same as in a Battlestar Galactica on Syndicate? Wow, you blew me mind. Let me guess, is the lore Battlestar Galactica?

Cylons were scum in the game she referenced. Cylons were ultimately not all "scum" in the lore, since you brought it up. There's no confirmation of all cylons being scum in ths game. The game she referenced thus proves nothing. That's my "damn point".

it porves cylons are scum in the big picture. eve you admit it yourse fland matt, admit cylons are scum so your only proving mypoint more

Matt wrote:
Nah, it's literally humans and cylons vs cylons in the end.

you have now proven my poitn that cylons are scum they should all die

Matt wrote:
Silverwolf wrote:Tough shit Ricochet. Others might be interested. Yours and others strong willingness to say Epi is good or shoot down those trying to say otherwise, is an auto scumread from me.

Because your wincon is antitown then or scum.
Barring shenani actions such as Epi really being Boomer but appearing as Athena upon death, Epi is good. Scum read me, vote me, I don't care. I'll be saying this until the end of the game.

Please tell me, Silverwolf, why do you want to destroy a role who is willing to do anything for the good of the human race?

Please, answer.

Also, still here for about 20, 30 min apparently.

maybce cus cylons are scum and that they need to be dead?

Ricochet wrote:
Silverwolf wrote: Also, anyone defending Epi can die after he does when Epi flips scum. If he flips town, then this game is a Bastard game where the mod is allowed to mislead the players and I did not see it advertised as a bastard game.
Epi has flipped Cylon, there's no mention of his traditional alignment in the Host Post, which is something we almost always cover in Day lynches when hosting games here. Even this mere fact should make you think about the implications of that.

The Host has not mislead the players so far to anything, because there is no written mention that all humans are civilians and all cylons are mafia. You are infering that from expectations of a basic game and, as far as I can see, from proof of a basic template in a different game from a different forum from another time. I find that inconclusive.

OK, there are 2 known roles that have spcici abilites that are against cylons
THE POLL ITSELF SAY WHO IS A CYLON
THE LORE IS ABOUT CYLONS VS HUMANS

i dont think you can argue much more rico, cylons are sucm

Ricochet wrote:
Silverwolf wrote:Tough shit Ricochet. Others might be interested. Yours and others strong willingness to say Epi is good or shoot down those trying to say otherwise, is an auto scumread from me.

Because your wincon is antitown then or scum.
You cannot define town and scum roles on this game. You are even trying to doing it based on another game from another forum.

I have faith in the game being complex and lore-based. I'm willing to talk about it, which is something you and ika are nowhere near responsive towards. I am also human, so by definition I cannot be scum in your narrow perspective.

I think you also have an "agenda" to have all Cylons destroyed and good luck with that. My "agenda" is defeating the mafia. So far, there's no certainty that involves purely Cylons and all Cylons.

your missing the poitn entirely rico, the point is that overall (and yes i started lookign at lor itself) that LITARLTY its cylon vs humans in the end

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