The Syndicate

April Ludgate wrote:

Jeremy Jamm wrote:and either way the mafia would come out on top, since there would be a cop in any three possible set ups, narrowed to two if they had the godfather which I believe they do.

All I'm saying is it makes no sense what so ever for April to do what she did

Everything you are saying is objectively wrong. The only thing my miller claim did for the baddies was allow them to narrow the setup to one possibility. It simultaneously allowed town to narrow it down to two possibilities. The baddies went from 2 to 1 (halving the possibilities), and the townies went from 8 to 2 (quartering the possibilities). Both godfather setups feature a cop, and both miller setups feature a cop. No matter how you arrange the roles within the concept you're discussing, the baddies know there's a cop.

Unless the baddies were just lucky on Night 1, they found the cop because of the cop's posts. They didn't find the cop because of me. To smear me for that is suspicious on its own power, and to imply that my miller claim is fake at this point is just plain silly. Even some alternative miller who is afraid of claiming for some reason would still be voicing suspicion of me for being an obvious liar... so that leaves you right now.

Again I ask: are you the miller?

Ron Swanson wrote:

Leslie Knope wrote:

Ron Swanson wrote:Really?

From Mon Nov 21, 2016 2:45 pm
Tue Nov 22, 2016 8:46 pm

Result: 1 day, 6 hours, 1 minute and 0 seconds

Guess it proves somewhere in the middle of what I said and what you said, but still nowhere near your "wasn't gone for a day".

Time between posts. I got caught up as soon as I got home Tuesday and almost missed the vote.

I'm afraid thread time is the only one that matters. You were AWOL from the thread.

Leslie Knope wrote:

Ron Swanson wrote:He did? *frowns* Well, I guess that is true, in the sense that the mafia might have figured him out. So are you saying you are mafia?

I fail to see how you got there. I'm a vanilla townie.

Then how can you claim with certainty that Craig "outed himself"?

Leslie Knope wrote:

Ron Swanson wrote:Speculative. Besides, the mafia just pinpointed and killed off the town cop. I don't think that tells us they're worried about using gloves in this game.

Killing me would have made sense if I were entirely off-base, because it would have made you, April, and Andy look guilty if you're all civvies.

Still speculative.

Leslie Knope wrote:

Ron Swanson wrote:Besides, don't you change your narrative now, Knope. You said "Ron and April are plotting together". Now it's "maybe not April, but still Ron"? Why? Also, what would it be required for you to be slightly more than "slightly more sure" that you can trust April?

There's still a possibility that the mafia took a 50/50 gamble on what setup we're in and had her claim Miller knowing that if it paid off, the only way to prove that were either good or bad would be to lynch her. While it seems unlikely, it's still possible.

Taking a gamble to guess which of eight setups we're in is not a 50/50 gamble.

Leslie Knope wrote:

Ron Swanson wrote:
I know what I am, so that was simple math. I wish I could trust you to be town as well, but at this stage, I cannot.

What it looked like to me is Andy making another attempt to tee me up so you can knock me out of the park.

That's not the point, nor was it in your earlier reply. I had already ridiculed Andy's list because it had a dead civilian on it.

Leslie Knope wrote:

Ron Swanson wrote:

Leslie Knope wrote: My top suspects at the moment are Ron and Andy - two of my best friends. I'm also keeping an eye on Jerry. I'm sure this is his fault somehow. Even if he hasn't directly killed anyone.

Defense mode. Noted.

Defense mode? Nobody has cast a vote for me this time, despite Andy's attempts. What am I defending from? It looks to me like you're in defense mode.

From suspicions. People can be defensive at them as well.

Leslie Knope wrote:

Ron Swanson wrote:What's wrong with me looking at your post? I deem it suspicious, should I not? And foremost, I dismissed it as nonsense.

It doesn't bother me that you looked at the post. What bothered me is that you dismissed it as nonsense without addressing any of my points.

And other than being obviously manipulative, what points have you made?

Access link "In topic", below my profile picture, then read... pretty much everything.

April Ludgate wrote:

Jeremy Jamm wrote:Jeremy Jamm is here! To attempt to catch up,
First off I disagree with anything and everything Knope said,
Second Ron should be lynched for punching me,
Third I want a bigger office.

Expect a few posts throughout the day. I do want to point out April outing herself caused the death of our cop, I wouldn't mind seeing her get lynched in case she is the mafia. Why would a civ do such a thing? Also until our miller flips we don't even know if it is in the set up 100% we also don't know if April is the miller or the godfather do we?

Blaming me for the cop's death is nonsense. This post is awful.

Leslie Knope wrote:

Ron Swanson wrote:I'd like to hear what Leslie to say given her Ron & April nonsense at the late hours of the late phase, in light of the flip and what it says about April. Bunch of nothing throughout the phase, AWOL for 42 hours and then comes in, having drunk apparently from the same bottle of cheap Bud as Ann.

It was less than 24 hours.

I don't think it changes much. It makes me slightly more sure that I can trust her, but I still don't trust you, Ron. There are two reasons I'm still alive at this point: 1. Craig outed himself. 2. One or more of my accusations (you, April, Andy) was correct and killing me would have only raised more suspicions.

Ron Swanson wrote:

Andy Dwyer wrote:guys
leslie
bill
ron

You have two civilians on that list, one of whom is dead.

That's very interesting, Ron. I'm a vanilla townie, and I think you know that.

My top suspects at the moment are Ron and Andy - two of my best friends. I'm also keeping an eye on Jerry. I'm sure this is his fault somehow. Even if he hasn't directly killed anyone.

Ben Wyatt wrote:

Jeremy Jamm wrote:Leslie, hasn't checked in yet, why isn't Leslie here? She must have murdered poor Li'l Sebastian, we should take Leslie out.

Whoa, whoa, whoa. Let's wait for Leslie to at least show up before we decide to lynch her. It's only been, what, 40 minutes since the game began? Andy, Craig, Donna, Jean-Ralphio, Jerry, and Tom all aren't here either. Why did you single out Leslie, of all people?