The Syndicate

Nah I was referring to the post where you say me and Mac are a team.

I had stopped talking about Tink at that point.

I mean I did argue about Tinks alignment two pages ago or smh but that was before I even started to call you bad.

You are reaching so you can use one of those named falacies.

Fredwood wrote: ↑Sun Jul 02, 2017 6:46 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 02, 2017 6:34 am I mean you just said you think me and Mac are the bad team and now you accuse me of strawmanning when I call you out on that?
I said it's likely The strawman is about you misrepresenting my stance on the Tink wagon.

Where did I even mention Tink

Like... you are folding to pressure like a piece of soaked toilet paper.

Ok Ill stop with the metaphors.

This is weird because the wagon is forming way early than usual.

But you are having such a violent meltdown that I can't possibly not vote for you. You are setting off every alarm at once, by throwing gasoline, setting them on fire, and then running around them naked and screaming.

If you're a civ this is a pretty terrible play from you. You need to learn how to chill.

But if you are bad... Yeah you also need to learn how to chill.

I mean you just said you think me and Mac are the bad team and now you accuse me of strawmanning when I call you out on that?

Did you even look what post I quoted

I love when someone sees a wagon and decides the only way that possibly could happen if it the entire mafia team is on it.

Fredwood wrote: ↑Sun Jul 02, 2017 1:49 am The derpy pushback on this is questionable and I think that a DDL/Mac team is very likely at this point.

The OMGUS

Fredwood wrote: ↑Sat Jul 01, 2017 2:27 pm Spirit wasn't a CFD at all, that would imply that there was any wagons to begin with. In actuality both wagons were fast forming at EoD as we had 3 votes with an hour to go.

Semantintics. Some key elements of CFD were there. A civ voiced a suspicion of someone others weren't paying attention, in an EoD where nobody was very confident about the lynch. Others followed her and the lynch happened so fast not even the lynchee had time to vote back.

Point is, it's very possible that mafia was not able to make a coordinated attempt at stopping that. Specially when you consider the number of possible mafia doing it caps at 2.

You are analysing the fuck out of it and yet you smoothly avoided getting involved in last night's lynch, despite being online all the time. You stink.

Fredwood wrote: ↑Sat Jul 01, 2017 2:02 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Jul 01, 2017 7:32 am
Fredwood wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2017 10:48 pm Those on Tink: LC looks kind of bad, DDL too, DF was kind of middle of the road before this. Of all 4 voters I'm a little more inclined to give Wilgy a little more of town lean then the other 3, unless Dom is Wilgy's partner and he's super bussing him to build town equity to make the best out of a bad situation and had "yolo" inspired push to save Spirit. I'll have to analyze the vote I think to see if it was to build an even wagon to get another vote to force a lynch.

TLDR I can see why a town would be on a Tink lynch, but I'll eat my hate if at least one scum wasn't on the Tink lynch. Wilgy/Dom makes sense, don't know if Wilgy/Dom/Spirit make sense. 3 other three could be in a them/Spirit/Dom mafia.

Null for non-voters.
I think you look bad on this lynch.
Good OMGUS, I really wish you would put more effort into them. That's two in 12 hours.

The fact you suspected my priorly does not revoke my right to suspect you.

I couldn't care less if something is OMGUS or not.

Mac is not the hero we need, but he is the hero we deserve.

Fredwood wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2017 10:48 pm Those on Tink: LC looks kind of bad, DDL too, DF was kind of middle of the road before this. Of all 4 voters I'm a little more inclined to give Wilgy a little more of town lean then the other 3, unless Dom is Wilgy's partner and he's super bussing him to build town equity to make the best out of a bad situation and had "yolo" inspired push to save Spirit. I'll have to analyze the vote I think to see if it was to build an even wagon to get another vote to force a lynch.

TLDR I can see why a town would be on a Tink lynch, but I'll eat my hate if at least one scum wasn't on the Tink lynch. Wilgy/Dom makes sense, don't know if Wilgy/Dom/Spirit make sense. 3 other three could be in a them/Spirit/Dom mafia.

Null for non-voters.

I think you look bad on this lynch.

Mac is a neutral one, coming early and voting for a teammate out of the blue with no reason isn't really costly. He could be bad and this was just bad luck.

Fredwood wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2017 10:39 pm Fucking A...So clears Tink...no way does Mafia save her over Spirit so I think they were a V/W wagon. Glad I at least moved my vote off her to at least give her the chance in a tie.

Implying mafia was the one to decide that lynch tho. What if all players on Tink's wagon (excluding Tink) are civ? Then mafia didn't have a sway.

Which is likely because this was a CFD, more or less. Mafia doesn't prepare for those.

Anyway, Nutella looks 99% civ, and Gman looks pretty good too.

Tink wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2017 9:50 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2017 9:38 pm
Tink wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2017 9:21 pm I'm not the one to lynch. Lynch someone else!
You know what, your contribution has been garbage this game.

Plus the whole "I don't try because I'd rather have fun" irks me on personal levels.

At least Dizzy could come back.

I'm fine with lynching you.
You're wrong to lynch me and you are also wrong about how it's about winning instead of fun.

I voted for you, you know.

And you are wrong to think there is a trade off between fun and winning.

Playing to win is fun. Even if you lose, just trying as hard as you can is really satisfying.

But mocking other people's hobby by joining it and telling them they shouldn't be trying to win is being a dick. Not more than that.

Fredwood wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2017 9:41 pm

My image mafia game is still 7 games down the queue, you'll have to wait more.

Tink wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2017 9:21 pm I'm not the one to lynch. Lynch someone else!

You know what, your contribution has been garbage this game.

Plus the whole "I don't try because I'd rather have fun" irks me on personal levels.

At least Dizzy could come back.

I'm fine with lynching you.

Elo is always bad even when she is a civ.

Fredwood wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2017 9:19 pm Because the EOD activity was questionable so of all the low activity she has the most negatives for me , also DDL is voting for someone on vacation as well, so if we don't for one person who is on vacation, I don't know if we should vote for any of them.

Dunno, I feel bad about voting low activity, but it's almost all we have at this point outside my pings on G-Man (shrug).

Is it just me or this post contradicts everything you said half an hour ago?

I'm okay with a Tink lynch tho. Gman too.

I was referring to people who never played at all. Mild inactives that come and go like Dizzy are a different story.

Fredwood wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2017 8:31 pm I'm not proposing someone else

Why

Who do you want to lynch?

Look, half of the players this game are too busy in real life to play. If I have to give them all civ cred for that we may as well call the game over.

Bads get busy too.

Also can you show me that post? I probably missed it.

Why someone else over Dizzy?

Voting Dizzy. Her disappearance after making a million posts about game mechanics irks me.

Actually no, scratch that, I forgot Jack was almost lynched.

G-Man wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2017 3:36 pm Is that all you got, Fred? You spoke more about mafia theory and side-bar stuff on Day 1 than anything with teeth. On Day 2, you gave me one poke about my NK analysis and then disappeared, only to come in at the end of the day, expressing dismay at having no choice but to vote for one of Timmer or Boo because they were the top trains. You also tried to angle it as if my abstention was forcing us into a coin-flip (without even understanding how Epi and Simon break lynch ties).

Dude, I once posted in nothing but pics and memes for a whole game because I wanted to. Same goes for the time I posted like a Magic 8-Ball. Or the time I posted like the Old Spice guy (the man your man could smell like). Or the time I played in character as Dr. frickin' Evil. It's a free internet. Everyone still had a choice at the end of Day 2. My actions didn't force you or anyone else to do anything. Saying otherwise is just trying to pass the buck.

Speaking of my NK analysis, I still maintain that Jack's murder wasn't smart. Unless the baddies killed Jack because he came out and said that, despite all the argle-bargle with DDL, he thought DDL was civ, it's an unforced error. The only benefit to come out of it was getting rid of the most talkative player. Around here, talkative and sharp players don't get taken out right away or JaggedJimmyJay would be the first NK every time. That's why I think it makes sense for someone from Jack's or another mafia culture to be behind that. Perhaps they have a teammate that is barely around to bounce ideas off of. Whatever the case, it quieted down the thread and achieved little else.

Imo they got rid of Jack because he was not being suspected by people.

That's one of the most basic reasons to kill anyone.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2017 10:05 am MOOOOOOOOM, LC broke the siiiiiite.

Gman's notes brought me back to these lists.
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Jun 25, 2017 4:10 pm Boo
Gman
Dizzy
Nutella
Speedchuck
DF

Thats my proposed list. You guys post yours. I propose we make a deadline for it and then everyone sends their votes. Is 3 hours before the end of N0 good enough?

DFaraday wrote: ↑Sun Jun 25, 2017 4:40 pm If we're still considering alternatives to Jack's list:

G-Man
Boo
DDL
Dyslexicon

Those are the only ones I'm leaning somewhat civ on so far.

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Jun 25, 2017 5:08 pm For what it's worth, here's a list of players I'm considering sending my point to:
Jack
G-Man
Long Con
Speedchuck
Dyslexicon
Timmer

sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Jun 25, 2017 6:22 pm So I don't get the purpose of putting 6 names down. From what I can read in the OP it's just one person you vote for. But my list is as follows:

Speedchuck - because we're CPI buddies
Dom - because I'm afraid of Dom. Always.
Jack - because I "like" jack as a person
DrWigly - because he's a doctor
LC - because I like LC as a person
Mac - because I haven't seen Mac in forever it feels like
Everyone above, has your list from before changed? how has it changed? has it narrowed down or widened? why?

DDL, DF, Hazelnut, you had all 3 chosen Gman. Why G-man in specific.

Sprityo, in regards to your list specifically, you and Jack were the only ones to list me. Why did you choose me? beyond that of "he's a doctor?" Am I still on that list? Why did you choose Dom and Mac as one only posted today, and the other is still out?

There are more players that I no idea what to think than players who I have thoughts on. I'd say the null and void atm are DF, Dom, Eloh, G-Man, Mac, Neverwhere, Sprit and Tink. From all of you, can you let me know which player you find the most interesting, and why?

And for now...

Adios muchachos.

Narrowed down. I'm more suspicious of everyone, while on day 0 I was more willing to trust people saying things I agreed about.

Gman is the same above. Not much to say since it was day 0 so there wasnt much to go on.

Personally I feel good about Wilgy. I think he is trying to figure out the game.

It's not just LC. Every image in this forum that used photobucket has self destructed. Including most of the winner banners.

Wait, Jack has experience in playing with me? That is news to me.

Iirc I only played one game with him where I was civ and he was some weird kind of indie.

I feel like dizzy has stopped appearing too much after that very active day 0.

Btw, did you draw any conclusions from that analysis, Gman? As in, anyone you think is civ or bad? I feel that is more important than the comments on individual posts, though those are interesting too.

I know it's annoying when players suspect you for not posting when you have been busy. I've been there. But I can't help it. From my side, there is nothing I can do but analyse your behavior, from a completely uninformed standpoint. Please don't be offended by it.

G-Man wrote: ↑Thu Jun 29, 2017 5:36 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 29, 2017 4:21 pm Some bits

Tink is so aggressively apathetic I want to lynch him/her just for that. The whole whing days zero about their alignment though, unfortunately.

G-man seems detatched. Im having a bad feeling about him.

Boo... I still want to believe in my read, but this lynch has forced me to evaluate it, and some of his posts do seem forced. Some players are just weird though, I dunno.
If by distracted you mean sneaking the start of a mafia game in behind the wife's back on a weekend and working 11-hour days ever since, while trying to read the game and take notes when I have a spare minute or two (not to mention using my entire lunch break to read while shoveling calories into my mouth), only to go home and sneak mafia in behind the wife's back before and after the kids go to bed... Yeah, you got me.

Thing is, I'm trying to distringuish between signs of you being busy and signs of you not wanting to contribute with the greater scumhunting goal. Baddies get busy IRL too.

And I've never seen bad Gman. This could be the first time...

Some bits

Tink is so aggressively apathetic I want to lynch him/her just for that. The whole whing days zero about their alignment though, unfortunately.

G-man seems detatched. Im having a bad feeling about him.

Boo... I still want to believe in my read, but this lynch has forced me to evaluate it, and some of his posts do seem forced. Some players are just weird though, I dunno.

G-Man wrote: ↑Wed Jun 28, 2017 9:50 pm Insult to injury- timmer's lynch confirms that all three of the Day 1 lynch trains were civvies. That will actually help me during my re-read. RIP Timmer. Looks my Day 0 vote was wasted after all.

Which is pretty ironic considering you abstained.

I'm more suspicious of a player who posts but doesn't add anything than one who doesn't post at all. The later is just completely busy 99% of thew time. The former may be a little busy, but often they are mafia just coasting.

sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Jun 28, 2017 6:05 pm DDL, can you tell me in short the single glaring issue of why timmer is the better lynch candidate?

There isn't a big one, but he is barely playing the game at all. And I think Boo is a civ so I don't feel bad voting Timmer to save him.

I'm voting Timmer partly because he hasn't done much to improve my view on him from the past day, and partly because I don't wanna lynch Boo.

There are plenty of people who honestly believe in NK analysis. I'd say more than the ones who don't.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 28, 2017 5:25 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2017 11:04 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:22 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:10 pm
G-Man wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2017 8:49 pm Interesting result. Not a very strategic kill. I suspect it's someone with experience playing against Jack.

RIP.
Odd what makes you say this?

@DDL, why are you so unsure of his alignment then if you thinks it comes from a civ perspective?
My opinion is not a constant.
But what changed?
I read a couple more posts from him and my impression changed a bit?

Ok let me elaborate because I know youll ask.

I already had an impression he was coming from a civ perspective but was being careful about trusting my own read. I'm still not sure about trusting it, but that impression of civ has gotten stronger.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2017 10:14 pm So nobody can go more than two. Same principle holds.

Unless there are mega evolutions in the game.

(but I saw no mention of them)

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2017 11:04 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:22 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:10 pm
G-Man wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2017 8:49 pm Interesting result. Not a very strategic kill. I suspect it's someone with experience playing against Jack.

RIP.
Odd what makes you say this?

@DDL, why are you so unsure of his alignment then if you thinks it comes from a civ perspective?
My opinion is not a constant.
But what changed?

I read a couple more posts from him and my impression changed a bit?

Snover, Munchlax, Riolu, Inkay and Mewoth only have 1 evolution.

Mew and Mewtwo have none.

Eevee has eigth, but it can only pick one and then that's it.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:10 pm
G-Man wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2017 8:49 pm Interesting result. Not a very strategic kill. I suspect it's someone with experience playing against Jack.

RIP.
Odd what makes you say this?

@DDL, why are you so unsure of his alignment then if you thinks it comes from a civ perspective?

My opinion is not a constant.

Wow I almost voted for Jack.

@Jack

Turns out I didn't actually suspect the people who voted with me. Rather, I mistook them for the ones making a whole bunch of fishy votes last phase:

Timmer (temporary)
DF
Tinky
Eloh
Dizzy
Sprityo
Gman

It's so many I can't even begin to think where to look first.

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