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by Dragon D. Luffy
Wed May 20, 2015 9:04 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 164877

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 1]

Guys, one question, how can I change the word that appears under my username? The one that's "patsy", right now?
by Dragon D. Luffy
Wed May 20, 2015 8:49 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 164877

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 1]

Wait, you mean bad in the sense of bad player, or mafia?

If it's the later, then yes, it seems to me he thinks I'm mafia.
by Dragon D. Luffy
Wed May 20, 2015 8:47 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 164877

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 1]

Metalmarsh89 wrote: Have you considered that Epignosis just thinks you are bad?
No, but I hope that isn't the case. :puppy:

And if it is, why is he bothering? We're supposed to hunt scum, not bad players.
by Dragon D. Luffy
Wed May 20, 2015 8:43 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 164877

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 1]

Golden, I'm not seeing you doing much interrogation like you say. You are mostly stating general facts about the game, like MP's meta, your theories about yesterday newbie chat, post activity, and telling stories about your previous games. But I'm not seeing much direct interaction between you and o...
by Dragon D. Luffy
Wed May 20, 2015 8:13 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 164877

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 1]

If you are "leaning town" on me, then wouldn't I also be misguided? But I don't think you read me, DDL. You claim I have "very little posts." I'm assuming you mean that I have "very few posts" and not very tiny posts. I have sixteen posts of varying sizes, anyway. Your...
by Dragon D. Luffy
Wed May 20, 2015 3:01 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 164877

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 1]

I just noticed I said "aspect" instead of "suspect" in my read about MP. :fist:

Sometimes I wish it was possible to edit posts here.
by Dragon D. Luffy
Wed May 20, 2015 2:28 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 164877

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 1]

TH, elaborate. What do you mean by golden-like. And what is so ungolden-like about him in this game? Come on, help us.
by Dragon D. Luffy
Wed May 20, 2015 2:25 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 164877

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 1]

What are those accusations, and why do they apply to you? I am primarily referring to accusations that DDL has stated suspicions and then quickly abandoned them when given a response. I think I've done the same thing. That's to say: it's not behavior i find suspicious on Day 1, at least not as DDL ...
by Dragon D. Luffy
Wed May 20, 2015 2:23 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 164877

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 1]

I do not agree that sanmateo is/was the main character behind the focus on you last night. That was a combined effort, and if anything sanmateo came in later than the rest of us. I also don't agree that he would (or should) be dragged down tomorrow if you get lynched. That sort of play would be dan...
by Dragon D. Luffy
Wed May 20, 2015 2:15 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 164877

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 1]

Here's my list: acrosstheather: posted 3 times iirc, and his most productive post was quoting a post from someone who said they were suspecting me and saying "Good point". Nothing else. And the other posts were fluff. That's pretty scummy. Now, it's hard to make a fair read on someone who ...
by Dragon D. Luffy
Wed May 20, 2015 2:00 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 164877

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 1]

After all, sanmateo is the scummy one who started it all. so you think i'm scummy? for any other reason than omgus? I'm thinking about D2 here. If I'm lynched, then you can be sure town will try to figure out who was responsible. Who wants to bet sanmateo won't be the primary suspect? It may even b...
by Dragon D. Luffy
Wed May 20, 2015 1:20 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 164877

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 1]

In context, DDL said this before the post to which I linked. If this is DLL's assumption, that there are 1-2 Mafia in the group of five, and he himself isn't one of them, then that means there is 1 or 2 Mafia in a group of 4. One would think, then, that this would make his job as a civilian much ea...
by Dragon D. Luffy
Wed May 20, 2015 12:14 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 164877

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 1]

This post: I also looked through sanmateo's posts to try to grasp where the early suspicion is coming from and I don't see it. I came out of it liking his casing of DDL more than my own and at the moment my imaginary vote is on the Dragon. You admit you don't have a big case on me, but you are inten...
by Dragon D. Luffy
Wed May 20, 2015 10:29 am
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 164877

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 1]

Metalmarsh, why do you think I'm your main scum candidate? I see you quoting a lot of people and making quick agreements/disagreements on them, but I'dlike to see what YOU think. In your opinion, what makes you think me as a mafia? i'm saying this because I'm seeing a slowly bandwagon forming on me,...
by Dragon D. Luffy
Wed May 20, 2015 9:06 am
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 164877

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia

I se people quoting this post over and over so I'm gonna reply to it: I think Dragon is bad news. He's leaving himself little outs that he can use later. http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic.php?p=142976#p142976 That post right there says he isn't voting anyone because ten people haven't talke...
by Dragon D. Luffy
Tue May 19, 2015 10:40 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 164877

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 1]

@sanmateo: here's the thing you're not getting. When I say I would vote someone, we're talking about an hypothetical situation here. And I talked about those hypothesis because people asked me to: "what would you do if you had to vote now?, and "what would you do if you had to pick one of...
by Dragon D. Luffy
Tue May 19, 2015 10:25 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 164877

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 1]

@sanmateo: here's the thing you're not getting. When I say I would vote someone, we're talking about an hypothetical situation here. And I talked about those hypothesis because people asked me to: "what would you do if you had to vote now?, and "what would you do if you had to pick one of ...
by Dragon D. Luffy
Tue May 19, 2015 10:06 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 164877

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 1]

I see that DDL thinks all those who've been posting tonight look like town. I disagree, but not only that, I highly doubt that none of the mafia are talking. I just can't see that being the case. Honestly, I see MP's over-helpful behavior as suspicious. I know we have a lot of new players and he wa...
by Dragon D. Luffy
Tue May 19, 2015 10:02 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 164877

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 1]

Anyway, my read on sanmateo, since it's the only one I haven't read yet. The fact that he is being active and suspecting of me is a good thing, as opposed to what I said about MP. But I don't like how he is tunneling on me hard. I've hardly seen him talking about anyone else, and I'd like to see his...
by Dragon D. Luffy
Tue May 19, 2015 9:50 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 164877

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 1]

For the record, I don't know any of the other newbies. The ones I know are MP, who I have played one game with and talked to on skype for a while, and Metalmarsh, who I have played the same game with. I've also watched Turnip Head's game on mafia championship, so I *kinda* know him. Though I heard t...
by Dragon D. Luffy
Tue May 19, 2015 9:38 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 164877

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 1]

You guys are playing with semantics here. To quote myself. I like to make accusations based on little evidence Which is exactly what I've done. I've claimed the possibility of each one of you being scum, based on evidence that isn't really big. May now fit your definition of "accusation", ...
by Dragon D. Luffy
Tue May 19, 2015 9:17 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 164877

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 1]

Committing to slight civilian read on DDL. I believe him. Thanks. But I think I'm having a deja-vu here. Last time we played a game together, I was mafia, you were town, and you thought I was town for a long time, going as far as using your message ability to tell other people that you thought I wa...
by Dragon D. Luffy
Tue May 19, 2015 9:05 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 164877

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 1]

sanmateo, did you read the question jay asked me? He asked about an hipothetical situation. He made me choose between 3-4 players, and I picked one. I'm not going to vote MP now, and I don't know if I'd vote him at some point in this phase. Like I said, I pointed out something I find suspicious, and...
by Dragon D. Luffy
Tue May 19, 2015 9:00 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 164877

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 1]

Sloonei, answer your question, the reasons I gave for people being scum were more fringe theories than based on actual evidence. Such as "he wrote a weird post which could be scummy", not "he has consistently written scummy posts which make me suspect him". The second one is what...
by Dragon D. Luffy
Tue May 19, 2015 8:55 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 164877

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 1]

FFS, 7 posts in the time it took me to write this one. And I like to call people scum. Defenses are a great way to get reactions. you've not called anyone scum. in fact, you've made assertions of scumminess but in each case offered a caveat to relieve the pressure inherent to those assertions. ergo,...
by Dragon D. Luffy
Tue May 19, 2015 8:44 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 164877

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 1]

You people are posting faster than my internet can load your posts. :suspish: And I like to call people scum. Defenses are a great way to get reactions. you've not called anyone scum. in fact, you've made assertions of scumminess but in each case offered a caveat to relieve the pressure inherent to ...
by Dragon D. Luffy
Tue May 19, 2015 8:43 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 164877

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 1]

And I like to call people scum. Defenses are a great way to get reactions. you've not called anyone scum. in fact, you've made assertions of scumminess but in each case offered a caveat to relieve the pressure inherent to those assertions. ergo, you're scum. :) Thing is, I don't think any of the ac...
by Dragon D. Luffy
Tue May 19, 2015 8:31 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 164877

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 1]

And I like to call people scum. Defenses are a great way to get reactions. you've not called anyone scum. in fact, you've made assertions of scumminess but in each case offered a caveat to relieve the pressure inherent to those assertions. ergo, you're scum. :) Thing is, I don't think any of the ac...
by Dragon D. Luffy
Tue May 19, 2015 8:15 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 164877

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 1]

I do think it's weird that you tried to start a conversation by saying something you don't actually believe in. What implications does "weird" have for you? Are you reading civilian, mafia, or neutral on Sloonei? Do you believe his explanation? I think it's very likely that it's true, and...
by Dragon D. Luffy
Tue May 19, 2015 8:09 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 164877

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 1]

MovingPictures07 wrote:Also listening to Skylarking thanks to Jay's 'singing'. :P

Just kidding, it's way better than my singing.

Anyway, it's an amazing album that I haven't listened to in WAY too long.
What Jay's singing? How did I miss that? :confused2:
by Dragon D. Luffy
Tue May 19, 2015 8:04 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 164877

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia

I'm curious too. This Day 0 has been fun, but it's hard to make reads on anyone when almost none of the posts are about the game. It's easier when everyone is accusing each other. I suppose that's what Day 1s are for. Btw, I think it's very interesting how Jay started talking about making cases rig...
by Dragon D. Luffy
Tue May 19, 2015 8:00 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 164877

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 1]

I do think it's weird that you tried to start a conversation by saying something you don't actually believe in. What implications does "weird" have for you? Are you reading civilian, mafia, or neutral on Sloonei? Do you believe his explanation? I think it's very likely that it's true, and...
by Dragon D. Luffy
Tue May 19, 2015 7:44 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 164877

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia

Btw, I think it's very interesting how Jay started talking about making cases right after the second role was handed out. Which is interesting since the game was pretty much a blank state at that point. Though to be fair, he did say he had nothing at that point. That could indicate an alignment cha...
by Dragon D. Luffy
Tue May 19, 2015 6:40 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 164877

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 1]

Saying this negates the accusation I want to assert that the players expressing the most interest in starting the game are scum, so I'll have to find a new entry point into this thing. I'm curious, why would you think that? From my experience, scum players usually want the game to move nowhere for ...
by Dragon D. Luffy
Tue May 19, 2015 5:57 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 164877

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia

I'm curious too. This Day 0 has been fun, but it's hard to make reads on anyone when almost none of the posts are about the game. It's easier when everyone is accusing each other. I suppose that's what Day 1s are for. Btw, I think it's very interesting how Jay started talking about making cases righ...
by Dragon D. Luffy
Tue May 19, 2015 3:22 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 164877

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia

Wow I love Isle of Avalon. I thought I was the only one. The chorus is amazing.
by Dragon D. Luffy
Tue May 19, 2015 12:15 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 164877

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia

^ the lyrics in the description of the video are wrong, by the way. I recommend you look for the lyrics somewhere else if you wanna read them.
by Dragon D. Luffy
Tue May 19, 2015 12:12 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 164877

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia

Iron Maiden has a song about economics too:



I mean, it isn't made completely clear in the lyrics, but it's about that. I remember seeing an interview where one of the band members confirms it.
by Dragon D. Luffy
Mon May 18, 2015 8:38 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 164877

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia

I'm trying to send a PM to the host to ask questions about my role but for some reason my reply keeps going to the outbox instead of being sent. Why is that?
by Dragon D. Luffy
Mon May 18, 2015 7:44 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 164877

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia

Imo all options in the poll are somewhat true, but I like the irony of number 3 so I voted for it.
by Dragon D. Luffy
Mon May 18, 2015 7:34 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 164877

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia

Oh damn, my role was so cool. I was already planning what I'd do with it.

Well, the other roles are cool too, so I guess it's okay.
by Dragon D. Luffy
Mon May 18, 2015 7:18 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 164877

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia

Golden wrote:What is meant by 'closed setup'? That the roles aren't disclosed?
Pretty much. The idea is that it prevents players from figuring out ways to break the game early on. It also lets hosts troll them harder. :feb:
by Dragon D. Luffy
Mon May 18, 2015 7:17 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 164877

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia

Thought it'd be relevant:



#teamkeynes

(oh wait, that's mafia. #teamhayek then. At least until the game is over)

They also made a sequel:

by Dragon D. Luffy
Mon May 18, 2015 6:22 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 164877

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia

Well I suppose this does give players an opportunity to fluff without wasting a day phase on it.

Which is cool compared to where I come from, where D1 is basically "fluff as much as possible and lynch whoever is talking the most".
by Dragon D. Luffy
Mon May 18, 2015 6:19 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 164877

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia

Alright. Thanks for the explanations, guys!

I guess I'll just vote on whatever option I feel like then.

In other words, the third one, because it's kind of true. :shifty:
by Dragon D. Luffy
Mon May 18, 2015 6:12 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 164877

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia

Ok then.

And what about the poll? Do those usually have some in-game effect? It seems to be the case.
by Dragon D. Luffy
Mon May 18, 2015 6:03 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 164877

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia

Hello, guys. This is my first game in this forum. Nice to meet you.

So, any ideas on what this Day 0 is for? I figure Night 0 is so we can produce our first guns/butter, but what about the day?

Or is it some forum tradition I'm not aware about?
by Dragon D. Luffy
Sat May 16, 2015 6:52 pm
Forum: Previous Side Mission Sign-Ups
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia
Replies: 126
Views: 6595

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia

Another question: since votes are done through a poll, I assume changing votes isn't a thing in this site, right?
by Dragon D. Luffy
Sat May 16, 2015 12:05 pm
Forum: Previous Side Mission Sign-Ups
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia
Replies: 126
Views: 6595

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia

This game is now officially MovingPictures Invitational Game.
by Dragon D. Luffy
Fri May 15, 2015 4:30 pm
Forum: Previous Side Mission Sign-Ups
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia
Replies: 126
Views: 6595

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia

That's awesome lol

I won't do it though. At least not in my first game here.

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