The Syndicate

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 1:29 am my city is a fucking hotbed of fascist bullshit and i cannot bring myself to fucking care about anything

i'm burying myself in mafia to an unhealthy extent because i can't deal with sparing a single second to think about the fucking real world.

Well it means we get more of you, so that's a silver lining!

But I feel ya. In the past few years my ability to care about my own country has slowly degenerated.

It will get better. The world always gets better in the long term. It just sucks that the march is so slow.

This is pretty unexpected, but all my support to you, my friend. I hope your life only continues to get happier from now on.

It's possible he doesn't actually intend to play you and he really got into a situation where he is incapable of delivering his part of the deal for whatever reason, but he's ashamed to admit that. Even then, that's none of your business. Time to be assertive, like LC said.

Thanks again, guys. I still don't know if this was the right call, after all I don't kid when I say Brazil's economy right now is in a recession. The news you see every day are apocalyptical.

But a decision is a decision, I need to deal with the consequences of it, whatever they are.

I said no to the job offer.

The guy making the offer called me while I was still in bed (I know it was him because of the area code). I realized I had to give him an answer soon. So I emailed him telling I refuse the offer.

Yesterday I went to uni and spent hours hanging out with friends and making plans to go out. I can't abandon all of that just because of two words in my diploma.

Now I guess I'll have to gamble on Volvo wanting me.

But thanks girls, you are great.

It's more like I've spent so long in this field. I entered uni in 2010 ffs. And it was the #1 institution of Latin America, very hard to get in. Feels weird to just drop everything. Like, you expect to finish uni and go work on the stufd you just learned.

Not to say the time until now was wasted, since I gained a bunch of life experience, but it's a more feeling thing.

Right now, if Volvo calls me (and that's looking likely since I just nearly aced their Excel test), I will probably take their offer. I know that's what I want the most. But if Volvo does not call me and the choice is between going to the Aero job or just staying here and prolonguing unemployment, then I dunno.

Also I'm being sustained by my parents and they keep saying they don't mind it as long as I'm busy with something. But I have that nagging feelings I might be abusing their goodwill. Then again, if I go work outside, I'll srill have to be sustained by them partially, so that argument doesn't hold well rarionally.

Guys I'm on a big crossroads moment here.

3 years ago I had just graduated in Aeronautical Engineering and I got a job at the field. It was a simple trainee job at a small company (15 people), but I enjoyed it. Learned a lot of cool new stuff and worked with nice people. I had been in doubts about my affinity with the field before, but after working in that job I realized I enjoy it, even if I'm not really crazy about planes.

The problem was the time outside work. In the 16 months I spent there I didn't make a single friend, let alone girlfriend. The people from work never called me to do things outside work either. My life was work-home-work-home-etc. I'm not a very sociable guy, so I have trouble making friends unless they are already part of some group I have to go to. Around the end of my time there, I started having moments of sadness which today I believe were the start of a depression.

Then in the end of 2017 I got fired and moved back to my parents' house. Now, I don't enjoy being unemployed. It sucks. But damn if my mental health didn't improve from that. I started doing ballroom dancing classes, then an MBA, and now I started a second graduation at Production Engineering. My mom says I look happier now.

As for the graduation, the goal is to add a major to my CV that doesn't sound extremely specialized, because it seems no one hires Aero Engineers if the company doesn't specifically make planes. While Production is Management, and Management is needed everywhere.

I'm really enjoying it. I haven't quite gotten a group to go out all the time yet but I'm making a lot of friends so that is going to happen soon. The uni is a breeze. And in the last two months I went to hiring proccesses for internships at 4 companies, all of them multi-national, which is more than Aero has ever given me.

Now fast forward to today, and I'm going to do the final stage of a proccess for an internship at Volvo, in a town about 30km (20 mi) from here. It's 7 candidates for 4 spots so my chances are great. The job is related to using ERP/SAP systems to organize materials, which is something I've noticed is really demanded in the job market. I'm really excited for it. But it's an internship so the pay is pretty low, and doesn't count as a real job for law purposes.

But... yesterday I just got called to work at another Aero company, in the same city as the previous one. It's a bigger one (about 300 people). The pay is a little higher than before, but not high enough for me to save any money, considering I have to pay for my MBA. I'll prrtty much work to eat. Meanwhile, in the Volvo internship, while I don't know the pay, I estimate it's about 35% of the other company's net monthly pay (ignoring the fact it's a 30h/w job instead of 40). But... living in my parents house means the expenses are much, much lower, so if you take them into account, the two jobs are likely to leave me with the same amount of money left, which is almost zero.

A bunch of things have to be considered. I don't LOVE either Aero or Production engineering, but I enjoy both. Volvo offers a 30% probability of hiring me after the 2 year internship, but most importantly, an experience in something that doesn't make companies reject me for being over-specialized, something that could bite me in the ass in the future if I get the Aero job and it doesn't last again. But the Aero company is a real job. And I feel like it's my obligation to get a real job at this point of my life, not come back to uni and start over. But I already came back to uni, anyway.

Another question is why I got alone and depressed in that city. Everyone I know who went there says the city is colder than usual. Like, it feels less like Brazil and more like USA/Europe, with people being more formal and less sociable. True, but I'm an introvert who has always found it difficult to make friends, so I don't know to what extent what happened to me is the city's fault, or a consequence of my personality. And this time around I could keep doing uni at night, so maybe that would solve my problem. Even though my father will have to help me fiancially because I seriously can't pay for MBA + uni + living expenses with that salary (but father is paying for uni now so that won't change).

This shit is killing me inside. My heart says take Volvo, but my sense of duty tells me to take the Aero job and progress my career, not stall it. There is also the fact one is a job offer and the other, just a possibility. I can wait for maybe a week before giving the Aero job an answer, but if I don't have an answer from Volvo yet, I risk saying "no" and then being left with nothing later. Then again, I got FOUR job interviews in two months, something unimaginable in the small and limited Aero field, so I think getting an internship near my home city is job a matter of time.

If you read everything so far, thank you. That was me trying to summarize a very complicated stage of my life. I have a bunch of forces fighting in my head. The job security risks of each job, and how much I want to stay close to my family, and duty, and my mental health. And the fact Brazil is in an endless recession so jobs are hard to come by. I dunno. I'm stalling for now, but I'll need to come up with an answer soon.

Wow my innocent joke had some big ramifications.

dunya wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 5:24 pm I have meetings with some new housamates this weekend. One of them is an aeronautical engineer who describes himself as OCD clean and only wants someone who can't live somewhere that isn't spotlessly clean. I cannot wait to meet him and see my future living space. I'll be sure to ask him some essential questions like what time he does his laundry and if he has a smoothie maker. Any other questions I should ask before co-signing a lease?

Ask him who invented the plane

If he says Santos Dumont he's trustworthy.

If he says Wright Brothers he's a hack.

Sorry to hear that Daisy. I hope you get it through, so a few months from now you will be chilling in a new house.

My grandfather lost a toe a few years ago. He had cancer and the chemio made his toe get sick, so they had to amputate it.

He's fine now tho.

Live and learn.

Well those antibodies aren't gonna develop themselves.

You forget the point of schools is not to educate people, it's to invest in the workers of the future. If you are spending more money than the optimal to educate them, you are not making your money's worth when those people start working in the future.

Also forcing students to read books by themselves is a good way to separate the talented ones from the ones who should actually be moving boxes. Because capitalist society doesn't need a full population of literate people anyway.

And this kind of verbal abuse is also a way to prepare students for the verbal abuse they will be used to in their adult lives, as well as separate the ones who can take verbal abuse and still succeed, from the ones who cannot work adapt to a corporate world, and therefore should be, again, moving boxes.

(sarcasm, but sadly a lot of people believe in those)

Thanks, guys.

Already did. Well sort of. I just went to my parents' house nearly immediately, and now I'm slowly bringing things back with my dad.

Or pray that I get hired to that public job in the civil aviaton agency. Some day.

Thanks guys. Just needed to vent it.

Right now I have literally 99 problems because I intend to move back to my hometown but that means moving out and transporting my stuff.

Then after that, spam my CV.

So I just got fired. Kind of feeling like shit now. I was in this job for over a year and really loved it. It wasn't anyone's fault tho (except maybe the government), because the company was doing badly financially.

Now I'm lying on the couch trying to muster the strength to look for jobs again.

It's not deleted, it's in the mod forum. But nobody can post in it.