The Syndicate

INH: What do you suspect may have been the nefarious motivations for three people (now four) all claiming to have the map? In particular, what worries you about Golden's flip-flop in that discussion...

There are 159 posts in this thread, and 102 of them belong the last four players to make a post plus the host...

And I didn't find her responses to your questioning to be honest. I just think I'm right. :shrug: I'd say she's more suspicious than the mean. This thread hasn't moved as much as I'd like though so generating reads so far has me reaching...

So that's how she was lynched? I remebre having her as a top icv read when I was nightkilled, and mbeing surprised to find her come up maifa. Not exactly. I don't think the details are relevant here though, my drunken Marmot friend. :bighug...

1. I think Sorsha's post about giving the map to a woman was entirely fluff. Not serious. A gimmick that is only saying 'We are women, so give it to us.' Not 'these girls and I are civ, so give it to us.' The purpose of asking her those questions was to determine to what degree she was posting fluff. Sometimes baddies like to enter a game that way. Refer to Felt 2 and Sorsha's fluff cloud 9 post that llama laser-beamed. 2. Confirming civ-reads doesn't fit, because the post itself was a gimmick. Okay. Remember that time we agreed that we were often on the same page? Good times. Yeah and then you lined all of your walls with tinfoil. :...

What you usually do doesn't mean anything to me. I don't know why it should. "I don't see why it's necessary to ask her if she civ-read..." That's a bizarre way for any sentence to start in a Mafia game thread. The lead-in to your question was a square key in a round hole. It wasn't appropriate in context. I just showed you how it was a square key in a square hole. Explain the discrepancy you perceive...

My body. It's ready. :cloud9: :omg: Dyslexicon, in our scrimmage game last April you were a townie. You started the game with a decent flurry of activity. This time you have declared that your body is ready and then gone *poof*. Why...

What you usually do doesn't mean anything to me. I don't know why it should. "I don't see why it's necessary to ask her if she civ-read..." That's a bizarre way for any sentence to start in a Mafia game thread...

Marmot, while you're sloshed, why don't you tell us a little bit about your mafia team? They're a wonderful group of peop le . Which one is your favorite...

Marmot, while you're sloshed, why don't you tell us a little bit about your mafia team...

I knew I would do that...

None of the men should get the map. You all won't use it anyway, you'll get us lost and then won't ask for directions :p It should go to Nutella, Eloh or me. I'm chosing survivor. Yo Sorsha, you chummed up with the ladies based on game-irrelevant stuff to pursue the map. Did you care about the alignment of its recipient? ONE I really only see one answer to this. Were you going somewhere with this? TWO I don't see why it was necessary to ask whether Sorsha civ-read the people she mentioned, considering the specifics as to why she mentioned them. THREE As for Sorsha, I don't think their alignment mattered at all to her. I don't think that in itself is suspicious, but I think appeasing you in her response is. I don't understand the progression from ONE to TWO to THREE. I poked Sorsha about her girls-only map promotion to determine whether/how much she cared about the recipient of the map being a trustworthy civilian (instead of merely a female). She told me that she did care. So I then extracted, via the transitive property, the implied reads that she had not overtly stated: 1. Sorsha wants a female to get the map. 2. Sorsha wants a civilian to get the map. Thus Conclusion: Sorsha believes the females are civilians. Beyond those specifics, squeezing reads out of people is what I do and I know you've seen that before many times. You look fake right now. I rescind my town read...

I really only see one answer to this. Were you going somewhere with this? I already went somewhere with it...

My role is super cool because it's power increases in proportion to the size of my ego. It's a good thing I didn't get that one...

None of the men should get the map. You all won't use it anyway, you'll get us lost and then won't ask for directions :p It should go to Nutella, Eloh or me. I'm chosing survivor. Yo Sorsha, you chummed up with the ladies based on game-irrelevant stuff to pursue the map. Did you care about the alignment of its recipient? Sure, I'd love for the map to go a civ. Can I safely assume then that you read nutella and Elohcin as civilians...

I just realized that someone is going to get lynched on Valentine's Day. Romance is in the air. :daisy...

I would prefer not to disclose all of the details of the map, because the mafia team might be able to find ways to turn it to their advantage. I will say though that Golden's guesses are at least reasonably close all things considered. Once I have had a few opportunities to utilize it myself and get acquainted with the effects it creates, I might be more inclined to talk about it. We'll see...

Alright guys, let's do some GTH reads. Not really, but let's see some that of that beautiful content I know you're packing....

None of the men should get the map. You all won't use it anyway, you'll get us lost and then won't ask for directions :p It should go to Nutella, Eloh or me. I'm chosing survivor. Yo Sorsha, you chummed up with the ladies based on game-irrelevant stuff to pursue the map. Did you care about the alignment of its recipient...

North-east because I like a little of everything. :smile: Lynch: Scotty His support of me in the map business looked fake. Also I appreciate those who entrusted the map to me, I will do my best to live up the appropriate standard...

How do YOU intend to forge a civilian victory? By doing My Thing. I will do my best to outwork every other player, because every other player is less confidently civilian than I am (in my own universe). Time constraints might prevent the same kind of effort I have given in some past games, but I will surely still work hard. I don't like to leave any stones unturned...

Meanwhile, I'm an administrator of the forum who doesn't know how to properly quote. :goofp...

Hi everyone. Apologies for dumb questions ahead of time, I will be asking them all game and for games to come too.[/quote[ Ask at will. :) Alright, now that I got the reverse psychology argument out of the way, should we try to coordinate the poll votes, or would that be against the spirit of the game? And would there be a benefit in doing so? I am guessing not much aside from pissing off the mod. I don't think there's anything wrong with that notion. The host already declared that this Day 0 post is just for fun though and not relevant. Do you mean poll votes in later phases? You guys call the mod the host here from what I gather, right? Yeah same thing. We have a separate term "MoD" (Moderator on Duty) with the specific purpose of mediating disputes and keeping the peace. What is BTSC? Behind the scenes communication. This is the typical communicative advantage of the mafia team and sometimes civilians have it too in limited capacity. What is Civ or Civilian? Is that like a regular townie? Synonymous...

It's my first game, I deserve a map. It was rather difficult to sign up and meet new people. Fredwood's four posts are only marginally relevant, but I still react positively. This in particular, where he calls for the map, pleases me considering the personality he conveyed in the sign-up thread: Thanks. Jack and Silver are the only two names I recognize been competing with them from anywhere from 5 to 10 years. I'm not a proper representation of the talent pool, I'm not very good (false humility), going to have to find a way to figure out how games are played here. If there's any truth to the highlighted portion, I'd anticipate a civilian Fredwood would be a lot more comfortable doing that right off the bat than a mafioso Fredwood in this foreign environment. This read can be qualified with a little insight from those people who have played with Fredwood before -- please tell me what you think of this perspective...

I like nutella and Strawhenge already...

The prefect game was ROTTK. Three prefects were named in a very large group (I think approaching 30). The prefects were: Scotty INH Me Scotty and I were civilians. INH was bad. I was killed early. Scotty was killed late. INH was lynched semi-late. I don't think I was killed because I was a prefect. I was killed because my reads were solidly on the Nanman Mafia team and I was annihilating them. No hubris intended. I don't care about target painting at all and welcome the map without concern for that. If nothing else, we end up telling the Mafia who they're killing and they lose command of their most fundamental weapon...

I voted for scientist, because that's the coolest of all the cool professions...

I'm here, and ready to party. Also voting for JJJ to receive the Map. He hasn't been bad in forever so what are the odds he's bad now ? :grin: While it's true that I've rarely been bad on The Syndicate, the last example (from about 8-9 months ago) featured evil JJJ versus good Scotty. You're not one I'd expect to express this argument, even if it's transparently fallacious. I welcome your vote and I ask you to defend it again...

Give it to one of these Civ-as-can-be dudes, and they are D-E-A-D. Is that a threat...

I'm open to other map requests, but I want to know how y'all intend to forge a civilian victory in this game if you are entrusted with it. I'll lead lynches on the unanimous civ-reads and make a fool of myself. Town read...

I'll take the map. Y'all know I'll do the most work I can, as is applicable at least for this mechanic. My time is more limited than usual, but if you shoulder me with responsibility I'm sure you'll trigger my highest motivation. :rolleyes: I don't think I could handle your highest motivation. I can't either. Talking Heads broke me for months...

I'm open to other map requests, but I want to know how y'all intend to forge a civilian victory in this game if you are entrusted with it...

I'll take the map. Y'all know I'll do the most work I can, as is applicable at least for this mechanic. My time is more limited than usual, but if you shoulder me with responsibility I'm sure you'll trigger my highest motivation. :rolleyes...