The Syndicate

Maybe this will motivate people:

If we blow this game, Jackofhearts2005 wins after being lynched on Day 1. It's a reversal of Shockheaded Peter, when both of his teammates ate it Days 1 and 2 and then he giggled through LyLo anyway. Imagine how smarmy he will be if this happens.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 4:55 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 4:52 pm My repeated failed efforts to make this thread GO are making me worry about Sloonei again.

This shrug emoji is your second post in the past 15 hours.

My repeated failed efforts to make this thread GO are making me worry about Sloonei again.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 4:28 pm You mean you think the way he caved to your pressuring him to suspect Soneji for that point was inorganic? Idk

The way he responded to my stupid "buckos"

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 3:58 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 3:50 pm Long Con is probably mafia for being a rigid beeper of boops even when I am clearly just being a jackass.
Is that your professional opinion? Also I'm not hip to the beep boop lingo I have seen going around, so I don't understand your meaning.

Robots make beep boop noises. To beep boop is to be robotic, to be stilted, to be unnatural.

Long Con is probably mafia for being a rigid beeper of boops even when I am clearly just being a jackass.

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 3:45 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 3:42 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 3:42 pm Pretty minimal interactions with Jack, he did call out Jack for an opinion on the salad Nutella thing, and after Jack's death he trying to claim it as a suspicion, but I didn't really see it as a suspicion, just asking Jack's actual opinion.
whaddya think of that, bucko? eh bucko? EH BUDDY?
Um... ok...pal.

I guess that's a ping against him.

Oh you GUESS? You SUPPOSE? You THINK SO, PAL?

Sorry I am so bored

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 3:42 pm Pretty minimal interactions with Jack, he did call out Jack for an opinion on the salad Nutella thing, and after Jack's death he trying to claim it as a suspicion, but I didn't really see it as a suspicion, just asking Jack's actual opinion.

whaddya think of that, bucko? eh bucko? EH BUDDY?

Mac voted motobot but never posted, silence alert

Jiwon jumped on my accusation that Myo hasn't given reads despite having given nearly no reads of their own.

W A T
U P
W I T
D A T

motobot wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 5:42 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 7:39 am
motobot wrote: ↑Tue May 26, 2020 8:29 pmI was going to vote for you for scrap, but now I kind of think Spacedaisy is a better choice because you sound like you are trying to pretend to figure out who is bad and who is good.
I have two questions for you, motobot:

1. Why was Spacedaisy the best choice for scrap?

2. What made you think MacDougall was pretending?
1. She sounded like the best person to pick because she wasn't saying anything that somebody evil would say.

2. You can't just figure everybody out at the start of the game when there's no proof and no votes in.

This may not technically be a "lie" in that Spacedaisy hadn't said anything at all, but it doesn't look honest.

[VOTE: motobot] aubergine

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 2:49 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 2:04 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 2:01 pm I looked at Soneji's ISO. I don't think he's bad.
why not?
Nothing I read made me suspicious. And I usually do ISO's with a bias toward reading things as suspicious. Give me an angle on it that would adjust that perception and I'll analyze it.

How do you feel about Soneji's interactions with Jack, and about the general progression of Soneji's reads?

This day phase has been ass.

Does anyone trust Jiwon?
Does anyone trust motobot?

[VOTE: sig] aubergine

*throws hands up*

[VOTE: Soneji] aubergine

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 3:24 am Overall I find more positive in sig's iso than negative. What's the strongest point against him?

He hasn't pushed a single read beyond making one post at any juncture of the entire game, and the only strongly worded mafia read he has provided was once at Soneji -- no follow-up.

Anyone: why is sig a civilian?

[mention]Sloonei[/mention] why do you think Myo looks like a civilian? I don't.

Homework:

Go to sig’s ISO and tell me how many strong reads he has expressed since this game started.

Then, among those, tell me how many times he has actively pushed a mafia read.

11 players alive: 2 mafia, 1 indy, 8 civilians

If we don't count on that indy, we sit at 8 vs 2. That's 2 mislynches to MyLo + 2 mafia alive = POE pool of 4 needed. That expands to 5 if we accept the indy as pro-civilian (I am unwilling). The goal of the game should be finding 6 non-mafia among the 10 players who are not you.

[VOTE: sig] aubergine

Nice. That bodes well for nutella and Mac I suspect, as they'd be the most obvious kills and protections.

motobot wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 8:43 pm I'm sick right now. Voting Myo for scrap.

Feel better!

To be clear:

If there is a mafioso in this set:

nutella, Mac, Sloonei, ted

Then I expect the civilians to lose this game. The best way to prevent that is to get activity from the quieter group:

[mention]Myo[/mention]
[mention]JiwonMeganPark[/mention]
[mention]motobot[/mention]

and energy from the rest:

[mention]Long Con[/mention]
[mention]Soneji[/mention]
[mention]sig[/mention]

That can help any civilians among them to find one another. Without that, they're always going to be more suspicious, and they're always going to be lynched before that group up at the top. If they are all civilians up there, then that's great. The game remains winnable. If you're a civilian in that pile though, the onus is on you to answer the call -- the game may depend upon it.

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 8:05 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 6:12 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 6:05 pm So basically based on negative GTH reads. I might as well just not play your little game again if that's what you're going to do.
No, not basically that. In both cases the worse offenders are Myo and sig.

If you refuse to play my game for no reason, rest assured it won't make me suspect you less.
I have a bad feeling you're not Civ. I have no case, so don't get uptight about it. You've got a good handle on the usual JJJ schtick, which I see as good-to-excellent proactive play, so sometimes it just comes down to gut. Maybe my saying it could influence some rolecheckers or whatever. But then if you're Civ, it's a waste of an ability. Ain't that just Mafia?

I'm not entirely myself this game, so I don't view that with surprise. I just major-efforted my way through a historic town win in the MU tournament and am taking this game off (by my standards). I joined because it was clear a replacement was needed.

sig and Soneji are my top suspects.

Jiwon, Myo and motobot are next tier.

Long Con is a more tin foil option.

Mac, nutella, Sloonei, ted are civilian reads.

I believe the POE target is 4, so that's not a super healthy game state. There's only so much one can do though -- folks need to post.

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 6:05 pm So basically based on negative GTH reads. I might as well just not play your little game again if that's what you're going to do.

No, not basically that. In both cases the worse offenders are Myo and sig.

If you refuse to play my game for no reason, rest assured it won't make me suspect you less.

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 1:11 pm Oh my God, so that's what that picture was. I thought it was some sort of meme I didn't understand, like a statement on the State of Affairs in America today or something.

Anyway to answer your question:

Long Con and sig

Spoiler: show

You have essentially never had any substantive interaction with sig apart from that chummy exchange in there followed by a GTH bad read. So that's meh. From his end it's worse:

Spoiler: show

His reads on you have been a bunch of incoherent nonsense to me. He has both liked you and disliked you with no discernible progression. He has called you mafia clearly only when he has tacked you alongside other players (Mac and ted). And that "someone is trying to save Daisy by going after LC or me" thing just smells horrible to me -- like he was trying to save you.

~~~~~

Long Con and Myo

Spoiler: show

From your end it's similar to sig. You interacted in no meaningful way before an eventual GTH bad read. There's no effort to develop anything here.

Spoiler: show

Then Myo did the same thing to you. You served as a springboard for even more barely-relevant mechanical chatter and then get an arbitrary "wolf" read. It looks like forced distancing given that it's both-ways and neither of you seems to have the first clue about the other otherwise,

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:39 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 8:46 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 7:37 pm So, what is it then? Daisy can be my teammate because she voted Soneji and not LC or Jack. sig could be my teammate because he said "I don't think LC is bad". myo could be my teammate because...?
Your tone is awful.

[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine
If no one suspects Jay for this awful non-answer then I'm actually considering for the first time that the Civs might lose this game.

I didn’t have time to answer your question. It was complex and demanded quote digging. It was EOD, I was focused on finding an alternative to Daisy quickly, and I was simultaneously trying to clean a marinara sauce explosion in my kitchen. I looked quite ridiculous.

I’ll expand on the bits you asked about when I get to my computer.

penny 4 ur thots

Myo wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 6:50 pm JaggedJimmyJay wolf
JiwonMeganPark town
Long Con wolf
MacDougall town
motobot town
Myo town
nutella town
sig town
Sloonei town
Soneji town
Spacedaisy wolf
tedxtr wolf

Myo wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 6:51 pm Voting SpaceDaisy for lunch. I don’t know how to do the aubergine vote formatting so let’s just pretend it looks correct.

C

sig wrote: ↑Sat May 30, 2020 2:17 pm I like Daisy's last 2 posts, I'd love to see a full read list and who'd you like to lynch.

I don't like that LC tried to claim credit for the jack lynch,

Still think Jay could be mafia since I'm sticking with my inactive theory.

Besides that I'm a bit meh. If the top civ arent shot in next few phases we should probably lynch them.

sig wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 8:22 pm Havent read anything since last posts in the middle of some stuff

I'll try to read up before deadline but throwing. a vote on daisy only since I want the scraps and bet lynch seems inevitable

sig wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:11 pm So I was just sleeping but afyer reading everything I like this wagon more so then lc

I never was for LC and this last minute push away form daisy onto either me or LC doesn't seem genuine seems like an attempt to save a teammate

D-

Soneji wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 4:06 pm
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 2:32 pm I had multiquoted things that stood out to me as I was going and then my browser signed me out, so that’s annoying. I’m at work so I’m just going to try and recall as best I can atm.

1. I like the look of Jack atm. His vote for me, and subsequent move to someone else inactive is a method I approve of. This early in the game is the best time to vote for an inactive unless you have a solid reason to suspect someone else. I also felt like a jokey exchange between he and a Mac earlier made me feel like they are either civ/wolf or civ/civ combo. I’m leaning civ on both but more strongly feel civ vibes from Jack.

2. This might sound a little weird after #1, but I didn’t like the lengths sig went to explain that he wouldn’t normally vote an inactive but this time... etc. It felt a little like he was covering his ass before a controversial vote. Over explanation, if you will.

3. Soneji’s comment about sloonei’s “why does this exist” post felt kind of off to me. He called it clarifying, it didn’t feel like clarifying to me. It felt like an accusation. Also the rest of his post felt like a lot of questions that can make it appear like he’s doing more hunting than he actually was. Feeling a little bad about him, and possible he is covering for Sloonei?

Just a caveat, I was reading the thread at work, there is the chance I mixed up what was from which poster. I can’t look now because I’m headed to lunch and I’ve got a thing over my lunch. Those are my thoughts at the moment. I’ll vote after work.
1. Going back to this, I can't see how someone can approve so much of inactive votes early when votes are great for pressure in the early game. You shouldn't just park on inactives, it's a copout and doesn't move forward discussion. Daisy also left the door open for them to push onto Mac later.

2. It seems like he doesn't have reason to think inactive votes controversial with this crowd.

3. This definitely does feel more against Sloonei than what I did, especially given they were getting what I was saying wrong/not taking into account all of Sloonei's posts on the matter.

Their late vote on me was terrible and I only narrowly didn't get lynched over Jack.

[VOTE: Spacedaisy] aubergine

Beep boop

D+

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat May 30, 2020 7:25 am
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 9:52 pm Good lord, four pages at the eod? I’m going with my gut based on my earlier reads. What’s the story with the LC wagon? Did I miss something or is it in these last four pages?
I can see why Space is a hot topic

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat May 30, 2020 7:31 am yeah that's about it

[VOTE: Spacedaisy ] aubergine

C-

Let's go have a peek at the reasons folks provided for voting Daisy.

Woulda been super if POE pool people who aren't now dead had been there at EOD. I don't immediately feel like the macro solving of the game moves forward much beyond "daisy wagon bad". It's something.

I thought sig made zero good posts at EOD.

nutella wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 10:21 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 10:17 pm
Why do you think mafia was on Daisy.
This doesn't have a question mark and that's because it shouldn't even be a question lol

(multiple people who were already in the POE sitting comfortably for a long time on what ended up being a mislynch which scum probably saw as an easy target for today)

in fact something that I think Ted, maybe someone else, said about Daisy "needing to be resolved today" or whatever set me off. That's usually a sign of a mislynch that scum are content to sit on.

Feeling the vibes and on the same page as SlootellaDougall

sig wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 10:18 pm I'm also not liking Jay's post, mainly gut. But, the chart and the way he's putting in work kinda seems like Champions.

orly?

like champions?

like one of my most dominant games in a decade?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 10:16 pm Rarely do I actually get attacked by emotional scum so I'm giving Soneji major town points there.

Was sig and tedxtr compatible in your little charty doodad Jimbob?

I didn't look at ted. I constrained it to seven people to make it manageable. He's worth a look

k

Well EOD was loud so lets lern frum it k

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 11:02 pm If so I'm never taking any opinion you make in a Mafia game seriously ever again because you clearly are the worst player who ever lived.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:52 pm I am just trying to make this a training exercise for Jay's semi finals tbh.

Someone's going to get in my face, I have no doubt.

Spoiler: show

Like when you called Soneji a horrible player earlier in the game. Surely you didn't mean that, right?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:48 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:47 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:46 pm Y'all need to learn to not big dick every game you play is what I am saying. It's a social game. We're meant to be having fun. Champs is where you can channel your endless competitive desire.
Keep in mind that you were calling me mafia as I was trying to lynch someone else.
Very nicely. You called me a coward and repeatedly insulted my intelligence.

I think you're a great player who fell victim to being frozen at a poll deadline. Shit happens. I hope you know that when I talk shit to you, I mean it in good humor. We have played eight billion games together and I know what skills you boast.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:46 pm Y'all need to learn to not big dick every game you play is what I am saying. It's a social game. We're meant to be having fun. Champs is where you can channel your endless competitive desire.

Keep in mind that you were calling me mafia as I was trying to lynch someone else.

Anyway I'm just gonna sit here and let Epi tell me what to do next.

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