The Syndicate

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:37 pm Well that sucks. I was gonna jump off at the last minute like a big surprise for the fun of it to make a tie but y'all wrecked the wagon formation lol.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:32 pm He's wrong. But you've got a lot to go off of for tomorrow. Good luck civs.

Thanks for giving it your best shot

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:33 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:32 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:31 pm You don't have the numbers I don't think. You might as well just stop cuz I am not moving off Daisy.
I hope you're right
Yeah same but also I don't actually mind. Soneji and Long Con clearly have given people boners for their lynch so they'll go down sooner or later. I feel like if I don't get this Daisy lynch today she'll hang around and endgame.

Cowardice

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:31 pm So funny. You guys just totally railed off one player to another that has scarcely rated a mention. Which of the three of you is the mafia?

Right now I think zero. We're trying to get it right and there are only so many avenues to work with.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:31 pm You don't have the numbers I don't think. You might as well just stop cuz I am not moving off Daisy.

I hope you're right

[VOTE: Soneji] aubergine

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:29 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:28 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:27 pm This is bad. One of you is actually bad. Lynching Long Con when he's not here in an avalanche like this is bad.
I will never understand why people care about this
If Long Con is Mafia he missed end of day 1 which cost him his teammate and has again failed to show up to EOD.

Not a thing.

do you know his schedule

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:27 pm Of the four of you it's clearly just Daisy.

Why?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:27 pm This is bad. One of you is actually bad. Lynching Long Con when he's not here in an avalanche like this is bad.

I will never understand why people care about this

LC's vote is open, so Daisy is dead if people don't show up / Mac doesn't move.

[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:21 pm I'm not disjointed and panicky at all. I have remained intentionally quiet in order to see how people were going to handle my lynch. You and LC are the ones who seemed most to exhibit exactly what I expected to see in a baddie. It is because of that reason I would rather see one of you lynched. But if I die, then it will be revealed I'm civ and they can lynch the two of you next.

Jay, are we voting sig or LC? Because right now, back and forth will probably end up with neither lynched.

I think sig looks worse in the immediate present. I grant that LC isn't here. If you have a preference I will listen.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:18 pm i honestly do not remember the last time I failed to catch scum jay

Spoiler: show

sig wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:17 pm You and Daisy are aiming for LC or me, but only me after I came in and voted before that nothing.

It's quite clear your trying to save her right now.

Hate it

[VOTE: sig] aubergine

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:14 pm Sure. When he doesn't have a well established position with strong mechanical evidence contrary to his gut on a player that he doesn't know is actually genuinely capable of manipulating him by creating authentic sounding posts.

Spacedaisy is capable of fooling me. I don't care. I am here to make judgments. I don't think she's mafia.

[mention]nutella[/mention] feelings on sig?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:11 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:10 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:03 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:02 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:02 pm Nobody actually truly town reads Jay here right? I mean aside from Daisy who hasn't explained why and is being shielded by him? Surely everyone has the same doubt I have.
Nah
Helpful Sloonei. Cheers mate.
Jay = Town
How many times have you caught scum Jay vs. not caught scum Jay?

Sloonei has caught me more than anyone alive. Including you.

sig wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:11 pm So I was just sleeping but afyer reading everything I like this wagon more so then lc

I never was for LC and this last minute push away form daisy onto either me or LC doesn't seem genuine seems like an attempt to save a teammate

This is so fake. We just did this on Day 1 and killed a mafioso.

What so many townies fail to understand at EOD is that when you don't completely feel a lynch that appears finished in the poll, you don't have to just sit on it because you're too scared to do anything else. I will not fart around at EOD if I think we're headed to a civilian flip. I don't give the first shit about anything else.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:04 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:02 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:01 pm All of the signs point at Daisy but then Daisy makes one random soft ATE post and suddenly Jay is like "nah sounds authentic" dropping all of his reasoning in favour of a snap town read. I don't buy it. Jay is either spewing her town or her partner.
I don't bake in tunnels like 98% of civilians. That's one of my best traits. If I see a civilian in one post, then I see a civilian. I don't need to roast on it all day. I don't give a shit.
You see one Daisy post and it overrules all of the mechanical reasoning that she is scum that you and several others agree on. This is not Jay. You do not do this. You play analytically. You are off meta. You only do snap reads on day 1. Everything else is analytical. I literally just watched you play town.

Every time you try to tell me how I play you say shit that wrong as hell. You have got to stop doing that.

I played an abnormally analytic game in the qualifier because the post restriction called for that. I use my gut too. I favor my gut.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:02 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:01 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 8:59 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 8:58 pm STFU Mac and make a decision
Okay big boi

[VOTE: jaggedjimmyjay] aubergine

Our only avenue of defeat is in leaving you alive so thanks for the day 2 effort posts we'll take it from here.
I know you're scared of daddy Jay, but no dude. If you don't want Long Con, who else is a viable alternative to daisy
I posted my POE, you were in it.

I know. It's token Mac. It's fine. I'm town.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:01 pm All of the signs point at Daisy but then Daisy makes one random soft ATE post and suddenly Jay is like "nah sounds authentic" dropping all of his reasoning in favour of a snap town read. I don't buy it. Jay is either spewing her town or her partner.

I don't bake in tunnels like 98% of civilians. That's one of my best traits. If I see a civilian in one post, then I see a civilian. I don't need to roast on it all day. I don't give a shit.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 8:59 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 8:58 pm STFU Mac and make a decision
Okay big boi

[VOTE: jaggedjimmyjay] aubergine

Our only avenue of defeat is in leaving you alive so thanks for the day 2 effort posts we'll take it from here.

I know you're scared of daddy Jay, but no dude. If you don't want Long Con, who else is a viable alternative to daisy

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 8:59 pm Long Con as Mafia doesn't scum read me I don't think. It feels like actual townie irrational tunneling. I'm not voting there.

I think that's exactly the shit mafia LC does. He lives for being unorthodox.

STFU Mac and make a decision

Don't be a bunch of frozen cowards, FTL Mafia players. If you think Daisy's latest posts look like mafia then say so, but otherwise move your damned votes. I don't think she does.

Daisy if you're in on LC I would prefer that over sig. [VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

[VOTE: sig] aubergine

Daisy is town. Lynch someone else.

lol

c o u l d
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MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 8:49 pm
motobot wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 5:50 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 5:46 pm Thanks mate.
That's sarcasm I can tell.
When you are mafia you have to make an effort not to let your nervous energy come across as needless aggression.

I could also lynch motobot if you're feeling like lynching motobot, Syndicate user MacDougall

We have about 45 minutes, so no lynch is final. I think Spacedaisy sounds authentic there.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 7:37 pm So, what is it then? Daisy can be my teammate because she voted Soneji and not LC or Jack. sig could be my teammate because he said "I don't think LC is bad". myo could be my teammate because...?

Your tone is awful.

[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

I'm a bit distracted right now. I will try to say things as we approach the end.

Spoiler: show

motobot wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 7:29 pm She didn't say anything so she didn't say anything evil.

I mean I can't argue with that!

motobot wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 5:42 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 7:39 am
motobot wrote: ↑Tue May 26, 2020 8:29 pmI was going to vote for you for scrap, but now I kind of think Spacedaisy is a better choice because you sound like you are trying to pretend to figure out who is bad and who is good.
I have two questions for you, motobot:

1. Why was Spacedaisy the best choice for scrap?

2. What made you think MacDougall was pretending?
1. She sounded like the best person to pick because she wasn't saying anything that somebody evil would say.

2. You can't just figure everybody out at the start of the game when there's no proof and no votes in.

Spacedaisy made a particular number of posts on Day 0 that led our friend motobot to this conclusion:

Zero

That's the mafia team.

Green - bad fit as mafia teammates

Yellow - could be a fit I guess

Orange - tangible causes to associate as teammates

This seemed more productive than I anticipated. Take conclusions with some grains of salt since I am not working with great sample sizes of posts here, but I still drew them. Like I said, I have not saved a pile of notes. I just used my eyeballs. I can expand on any interaction upon request.

It's a decent review for Soneji. It's bad for Long Con.

nutella wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 6:54 pm Why would you ever want something that's not nicely divisible like 50

I would prefer 100, but it's not an option. At least I didn't go with 99

Myo wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 6:51 pm Voting SpaceDaisy for lunch. I don’t know how to do the aubergine vote formatting so let’s just pretend it looks correct.

You can either press the "vote" button in the post construction screen and type the player's name within the code, or you can enter the code manually:

[ vote ]PLAYER[/ vote ]

remove spaces from brackets

I can't believe so many people did their homework.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 6:38 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 6:25 pm 90 posts per page is ace
Did something change there?

boo rescued us from the bondage of 50 ppp. For a while the option to change that in the user control panel didn't work. It does now though, and you can set it anywhere from 1-99.

Spoiler: show

Soneji could you tell me what happened in this 30 minute space?

90 posts per page is ace

Myo wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 6:21 pm I feel pretty okay about Sloonie. He's talkative and analytical and doesn't seem to be particularly twisting comments to fit a specific narrative he's trying to create.

Additionally:
1. I just cannot marry the idea that Jackofhearts2005 and Sloonie are both wolves with Sloonie ranking Jackofhearts2005 top town in his Day 1 player rankings.
2. Jackofhearts2005 again frames his opinion (at least partially) in some else’s logic, this time Slooni’s. Does it make sense for Jackofhearts2005’s to use another wolf’s logic for his vote? My head says no.
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 9:30 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 9:26 pm Jackofhearts2005 NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME we must summon the Megazord!
You should know I’m torn between posting Power Ranger memes and just voting LC (cause his push on me was limp and Sloonei’s mini iso on him does show him being scummy) and you know, actually finishing catching up cause I’m only a few pages back.

I think that's fair. It's something that I think is decent for both LC and Sloonei.

I have a broader "POE pool" of seven which just combines mine with nutella's:

Daisy
Soneji
Jiwon
LC
motobot
Myo
sig

It would be manageable to check two-way interactions within this smaller group to see if anyone can be eliminated. I will glance at interactions, but I won't spam y'all with the notes -- I'm not sure there will be a lot to say anyway given thin post histories.

A little birdie tells me Soneji and Daisy aren't teamed, because at EOD she had an out to vote Long Con to save Jack. Instead she stuck with her Soneji suspicion. If she is just distancing there, it'd be goofy given that there's more civilian credit available in just blasting Jack in the face.

Swap Jiwon for sig too.

nutella wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 6:08 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 6:00 pm How about y'all gimme a 5-player POE pool. Ignoring the independent for the moment, that's the current target number.
Daisy
Soneji
Jiwon
LC
Motobot

I toyed with putting Sloonei in there but I decided he's ok

Mine is the same except swapping LC for Myo.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 6:02 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 6:00 pm How about y'all gimme a 5-player POE pool. Ignoring the independent for the moment, that's the current target number.
So POE pool is the 5 players we believe might be bad, right?

The 5 players you think are least likely to be good.

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