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by JaggedJimmyJay
Sun Mar 31, 2024 12:46 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 16927

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

What has Epignosis actually done in this game that is indicative of his being a civilian? Serious question. Everyone has seemed town at one point or another. Who cares anymore. Raise the bar. Oh Jay. Dear Jay. Explain what Lorab has done that has fit this description. Nothing. LoRab can absolutely ...
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sun Mar 31, 2024 12:46 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 16927

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

I think I am on board. I'm going to let my vote sit for a bit for reasons. Also Tony didn't say anything about my offer to lock my vote, so I'm not obligated to lock it. :P
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sun Mar 31, 2024 12:34 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 16927

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

Glorfindel is good people.
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sun Mar 31, 2024 12:32 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 16927

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

If the team is LoRab and falcon, then win or lose this is one of Long Con's finest hours as a civilian.
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sun Mar 31, 2024 12:29 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 16927

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

Maybe I am a moron for relying on a claimed independent to be my rock in this game, but what else am I gonna do.
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sun Mar 31, 2024 12:19 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 16927

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

@TonyStarkPrime, may we need to reconsider here? I know where reconsidering has gotten me in this game, but what's one more? :goofp:
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sun Mar 31, 2024 12:17 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 16927

Re: Kagemusha (D3)

What’s your thought on Lorab’s vote I don't care for it. I was surprised that she agreed with my rationale when it squarely implicated her, and she submitted to the vote with no resistance. I'm not sure how to interpret that right now from the standpoint of a falcon/LoRab team theory, but it makes ...
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sun Mar 31, 2024 12:14 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 16927

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

Another way to put it -- if the only real candidates to be a mafia teammate of LoRab are the three people currently voting for LoRab, then falcon's vote packs the least punch.
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sun Mar 31, 2024 12:09 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 16927

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

falcon is my best guess. Like... not JJJ, not Epi, not Tony, not sig. Not me. :shrug: Noted. :srsnod: That's been a hangup for me. If it's those two they've had some decent moments of distancing. LC raised valid points to the contrary, and your perspective could tip the scale. Who would be LoRab's ...
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sun Mar 31, 2024 12:04 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 16927

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

Epignosis wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2024 11:57 pm
Long Con wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2024 11:55 pm falcon is my best guess. Like... not JJJ, not Epi, not Tony, not sig. Not me. :shrug:
Noted. :srsnod:
That's been a hangup for me. If it's those two they've had some decent moments of distancing. LC raised valid points to the contrary, and your perspective could tip the scale.
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sun Mar 31, 2024 12:03 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 16927

Re: Kagemusha (D3)

This post pinged my suspiciometer: I just realized that one of the advantages that I have in this game so far,(and it's a big one for people like JJJ,)is the fact that I have zero history playing this, (without any help at least.) The reason I used JJJ as an example is because from what I understan...
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sat Mar 30, 2024 11:37 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 16927

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

Let me think it through with just night kills. motobot makes sense for anyone, so I'll focus on Scotty and Wilgy. LoRab - no reason to doubt she killed either of them sig - Wilgy town read him, Scotty had no opinion Long Con - Scotty suspected him, Wilgy lightly town read him Epignosis - Scotty ligh...
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sat Mar 30, 2024 11:31 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 16927

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

lorab @LoRab If you're town, come help us solve Is this Town falcon, trying to sort players on this do-or-die Day? I did think he showed some urgency in his other posts. You could argue the vote lacks urgency though, sure. Tony said earlier that he refused to vote falcon. I think LoRab is probably ...
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sat Mar 30, 2024 11:26 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 16927

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

lorab @LoRab If you're town, come help us solve Is this Town falcon, trying to sort players on this do-or-die Day? I did think he showed some urgency in his other posts. You could argue the vote lacks urgency though, sure. Tony said earlier that he refused to vote falcon. I think LoRab is probably ...
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sat Mar 30, 2024 11:18 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 16927

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

Granted, falcon's vote could change that too if he remains open-minded (if he's town).
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sat Mar 30, 2024 11:16 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 16927

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

We're forced to have an immediate sense of urgency this evening even if we still have another 23 hours. If @TonyStarkPrime is going to be gone and we assume sig is voting for me, then Tony's vote effectively becomes the person who dies. We have to consolidate.
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sat Mar 30, 2024 11:15 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 16927

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

Since I did my own look at Lorab's ISO, have have a different viewpoint that recognizes the possibility of some simple distancing between Lorab and falcon that could be team-indicative. It's not impossible. It'd be very valuable if you could pull out a post or two that guides you toward that conclu...
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sat Mar 30, 2024 11:10 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 16927

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

You've addressed things in my posts that you have taken issue with, Epignosis, so I don't need to see that expanded on. But it'd be useful to know why you think LC is the other one. The "Let's be towncore" rubbed me the wrong way. You seem gleefully excited to finish the game on me, and L...
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sat Mar 30, 2024 11:03 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 16927

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

You've addressed things in my posts that you have taken issue with, Epignosis, so I don't need to see that expanded on. But it'd be useful to know why you think LC is the other one.
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sat Mar 30, 2024 11:00 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 16927

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

I mean that respectfully.

I have considered Long Con and LoRab as a possible team. If Epignosis is not mafia, I don't know what else it'd be. I'm also not sure it matters, because I don't see how we win this game regardless of who it is.
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sat Mar 30, 2024 10:59 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 16927

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

That isn't an affront to the host or anybody else. My eyeballs hurt. I'm tired. Mafia is a thing to do when the shift is over, but I don't always have the strength for it. JJJ knows this. He just hosted me. LC I think knows this. Mafia are just railroading me into oblivion for a quick win because w...
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sat Mar 30, 2024 5:35 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 16927

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

(Glorfindel the Mafia player was long known for a "trust tell" in which he refused to lie under any circumstances)
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sat Mar 30, 2024 5:06 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 16927

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

@TonyStarkPrime if you'd prefer LoRab over Epi, I will follow you.
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sat Mar 30, 2024 4:12 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 16927

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

@Long Con present view of LoRab?
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sat Mar 30, 2024 3:33 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 16927

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

Smugness, when applicable, is best reserved for post-game. No smug.
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sat Mar 30, 2024 3:25 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 16927

Re: Kagemusha (D2)

Current thoughts: I’m of 2 minds on LC, because I read him wrong last game. But he has been pingy. Especially using the FEB emoji. So, not voting him for now, but keeping an eyeball there. :eye: I do suspect Wilgy. His posts feel like he’s faking himself, if that makes sense. Like, he’s trying too ...
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sat Mar 30, 2024 3:23 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 16927

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

falcon45ca wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2024 3:20 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2024 2:32 pm I hope LC is town, because that is so wise.

Is there any world where you see LC as Maf?

Let's say for the sake of argument you actually are Town...do you feel pocketed?
It’s quite possible. I think he’d most likely be teamed with LoRab if so.
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sat Mar 30, 2024 2:57 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 16927

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

falcon45ca wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2024 2:54 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2024 2:26 pm @TonyStarkPrime I will lock this vote today if you cannot be here tomorrow. I’d only change if forced by self-preservation.

Wait, are we able to lock votes?
Just by verbal contract. There’s no button.
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sat Mar 30, 2024 2:32 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 16927

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

I hope LC is town, because that is so wise.
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sat Mar 30, 2024 2:27 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 16927

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

@TonyStarkPrime in case that mention didn’t work
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sat Mar 30, 2024 2:26 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 16927

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

@TonyStarkPrime[/vote] I will lock this vote today if you cannot be here tomorrow. I’d only change if forced by self-preservation.
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sat Mar 30, 2024 2:22 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 16927

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

@falcon45ca I can’t get Epi to talk about you, so he’s either teamed with you or trying to make it look that way. If it’s the latter, only you can drive the wedge.
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sat Mar 30, 2024 2:12 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 16927

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

I may well be very skilled. I have done good things in my Mafia life. But everyone hits their floor sometimes, and it always seems to happen to me in games like this. I need a new approach to deploy when we enter POE-is-impossible mode, even if it’s a rare problem.
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sat Mar 30, 2024 2:02 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 16927

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

I think Jay was aware that the AS was the Shingen, or at least thought it likely true, especially when you compare AS flip to every other one in the game...it was unique, and understated in a way that belied their role Then Jay 4D chess the next phase by starting up the train of thought "Maf f...
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sat Mar 30, 2024 2:00 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 16927

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

His responses to today’s suspicion might as well have been “tee hee neener neener”.
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sat Mar 30, 2024 1:59 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 16927

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

Epi is clearly mafia. I’m not sure about the teammate.
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sat Mar 30, 2024 1:58 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 16927

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

[VOTE: Epignosis] aubergine
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sat Mar 30, 2024 1:56 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 16927

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

So hypothetically if wolves knew Moto was Mason, they could kill Wilgy, collect the credit, and then grab the bag in time to keep going I suppose that's a possible world. Before this takes the inevitable turn: I didn't really catch on to motobot as a likely BTSC until yesterday. :haha: :haha: :haha...
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sat Mar 30, 2024 1:55 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 16927

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2024 12:13 pm I should have voted for Jay day 2 and gotten someone else to do it with me
The game would definitely not be any better off. Cricket chirp chirp. :meany:
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sat Mar 30, 2024 1:53 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 16927

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

falcon45ca wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2024 11:18 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2024 2:41 am posting Tony style is kinda therapeutic
This is the 2nd time this game you've made a point to imitate a player's posting style...is this something you do often?

I can't say I've ever seen it before
I wouldn’t say I do it “often”. I don’t know why that is important to you.
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sat Mar 30, 2024 2:42 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 16927

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

just putting words in here and having a go
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sat Mar 30, 2024 2:41 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 16927

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

posting Tony style is kinda therapeutic
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sat Mar 30, 2024 2:41 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 16927

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

or Tony is mafia and outed his mech strat to taunt me
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sat Mar 30, 2024 2:40 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 16927

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

or sig is mafia and is playing the best game of his career
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sat Mar 30, 2024 2:39 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 16927

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

I think falcon has made some posts that look town. Most of them don't, but some do. I am not extremely confident about him in an individual sense (though POE that leads me to him feels a bit better). However, everyone alive fits that description. Something's gotta give. I could vote Epignosis, becau...
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sat Mar 30, 2024 2:36 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 16927

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

Conceivable that motobot was killed as a universal town read that nobody would vote for and not because he was viewed as a BTSC candidate.
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sat Mar 30, 2024 2:30 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 16927

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2024 2:28 am So hypothetically if wolves knew Moto was Mason, they could kill Wilgy, collect the credit, and then grab the bag in time to keep going
I suppose that's a possible world. Before this takes the inevitable turn: I didn't really catch on to motobot as a likely BTSC until yesterday.
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sat Mar 30, 2024 2:29 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 16927

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

You’re good at mafia explain to me why we’re sitting here on day 4 with a solid town core since day 2 and our PRs dead and no wolf flips I'm sure as hell not good at Mafia in this game, but we're here because there has been no good avenue to solve this at any juncture. We've been guessing and it ha...
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sat Mar 30, 2024 2:27 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 16927

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2024 2:24 am Ok numbers game. Let’s say wolves are 100 percent sure Moto is the partner, it’s N2, there are 10 remaining. They kill Moto,
7v2
three dead a day, one mischop


It doesn’t change it right? Still two day kills?
I think what you're saying works out. It reduces to either 3-1 or 2-1
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sat Mar 30, 2024 2:24 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 16927

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

I don't have a super compelling reason to dissociate Epi and Long Con

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