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by JaggedJimmyJay
Thu Mar 28, 2024 9:59 pm
Forum: The Heist
Topic: Kagemusha (N3)
Replies: 1055
Views: 4094

Re: Kagemusha (D3)

Good luck and godspeed. What a ballgame.
by JaggedJimmyJay
Thu Mar 28, 2024 9:57 pm
Forum: The Heist
Topic: Kagemusha (N3)
Replies: 1055
Views: 4094

Re: Kagemusha (D3)

Epignosis wrote: Thu Mar 28, 2024 9:56 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Thu Mar 28, 2024 9:55 pm
Epignosis wrote: Thu Mar 28, 2024 9:54 pm I don't mind if Simon goes. Boy ignored my question twice. Very simple to answer.
True. Forgot that bit.

[VOTE: Simon] aubergine
Did you?
Yep. I looked at Simon's posts earlier, and didn't see the responses he didn't provide. :goofp:
by JaggedJimmyJay
Thu Mar 28, 2024 9:57 pm
Forum: The Heist
Topic: Kagemusha (N3)
Replies: 1055
Views: 4094

Re: Kagemusha (D3)

Long Con wrote: Thu Mar 28, 2024 9:55 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Thu Mar 28, 2024 9:54 pm I would hope.
If not, we can have a jolly LOL together as the Town goes down.
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by JaggedJimmyJay
Thu Mar 28, 2024 9:55 pm
Forum: The Heist
Topic: Kagemusha (N3)
Replies: 1055
Views: 4094

Re: Kagemusha (D3)

Epignosis wrote: Thu Mar 28, 2024 9:54 pm I don't mind if Simon goes. Boy ignored my question twice. Very simple to answer.
True. Forgot that bit.

[VOTE: Simon] aubergine
by JaggedJimmyJay
Thu Mar 28, 2024 9:54 pm
Forum: The Heist
Topic: Kagemusha (N3)
Replies: 1055
Views: 4094

Re: Kagemusha (D3)

I would hope.
by JaggedJimmyJay
Thu Mar 28, 2024 9:51 pm
Forum: The Heist
Topic: Kagemusha (N3)
Replies: 1055
Views: 4094

Re: Kagemusha (D3)

My feelings about a Simon elimination - "sure"
My feelings about a LoRab elimination - "sure"
My feelings about a falcon45ca elimination - "eh"
My feelings about a JaggedJimmyJay elimination - "lol whatever"
by JaggedJimmyJay
Thu Mar 28, 2024 9:47 pm
Forum: The Heist
Topic: Kagemusha (N3)
Replies: 1055
Views: 4094

Re: Kagemusha (D3)

Epignosis wrote: Thu Mar 28, 2024 9:46 pm [VOTE: JJJ] aubergine

Washed my ass.

(That's funny you see)
All due respect, but I think it may be both of us. :bighug:
by JaggedJimmyJay
Thu Mar 28, 2024 9:46 pm
Forum: The Heist
Topic: Kagemusha (N3)
Replies: 1055
Views: 4094

Re: Kagemusha (D3)

No elimination - bad
Mafia choose - bad
First to the tie - null
Double elimination - awesome, but basically never happens anymore
Tiebreaker town role - no reason to believe it exists
by JaggedJimmyJay
Thu Mar 28, 2024 9:45 pm
Forum: The Heist
Topic: Kagemusha (N3)
Replies: 1055
Views: 4094

Re: Kagemusha (D3)

Long Con wrote: Thu Mar 28, 2024 9:42 pm Maybe no one will die.
Possibilities like that are why I won't let it end it a tie if I can help it. Most typical alternatives to randomization are bad for town.
by JaggedJimmyJay
Thu Mar 28, 2024 9:29 pm
Forum: The Heist
Topic: Kagemusha (N3)
Replies: 1055
Views: 4094

Re: Kagemusha (D3)

Wouldn’t it be nice if a tie killed both players?

Probably not. Poo.
by JaggedJimmyJay
Thu Mar 28, 2024 9:26 pm
Forum: The Heist
Topic: Kagemusha (N3)
Replies: 1055
Views: 4094

Re: Kagemusha (D3)

I said it twice, so now you're definitely going to remember. :smile:
by JaggedJimmyJay
Thu Mar 28, 2024 9:26 pm
Forum: The Heist
Topic: Kagemusha (N3)
Replies: 1055
Views: 4094

Re: Kagemusha (D3)

The poll deadline isn't activated, but I think we have 35 minutes left in the day. I'm about to go home, but I'll be here with some time to spare. Remember that ties are not randomized. We don't know what happens.
by JaggedJimmyJay
Thu Mar 28, 2024 9:26 pm
Forum: The Heist
Topic: Kagemusha (N3)
Replies: 1055
Views: 4094

Re: Kagemusha (D3)

The poll deadline isn't activated, but I think we have 35 minutes left in the day. I'm about to go home, but I'll be here with some time to spare. Remember that ties are not randomized. We don't know what happens.
by JaggedJimmyJay
Thu Mar 28, 2024 9:19 pm
Forum: The Heist
Topic: Kagemusha (N3)
Replies: 1055
Views: 4094

Re: Kagemusha (D3)

Long Con wrote: Thu Mar 28, 2024 9:16 pm Washed? In what context?
Washed up. Has-been. Should-be-retired. MJ with the Washington Wizards.

This is the most useless I have been as a civilian in about a decade. Sorry everyone. XD
by JaggedJimmyJay
Thu Mar 28, 2024 9:15 pm
Forum: The Heist
Topic: Kagemusha (N3)
Replies: 1055
Views: 4094

Re: Kagemusha (D3)

You ever wake up and realize you're washed?
by JaggedJimmyJay
Thu Mar 28, 2024 9:14 pm
Forum: Events
Topic: The Mafia Championship - Season 11
Replies: 43
Views: 701

Re: The Mafia Championship - Season 11

I think I'll also tentatively accept my nomination. I'll see where we land with the others and make a final call. But for now... okay.
by JaggedJimmyJay
Thu Mar 28, 2024 9:07 pm
Forum: The Heist
Topic: Kagemusha (N3)
Replies: 1055
Views: 4094

Re: Kagemusha (D3)

Why did you have to move off Simon? See the gif above. I am just shaky about voting alongside falcon and LoRab and where's another wagon on someone in my POE pool featuring two people I have an easier time trusting. I'm open to the Simon option. I might swap again. I dunno. I said before that every...
by JaggedJimmyJay
Thu Mar 28, 2024 8:53 pm
Forum: The Heist
Topic: Kagemusha (N3)
Replies: 1055
Views: 4094

Re: Kagemusha (D3)

Why did you have to move off Simon? See the gif above. I am just shaky about voting alongside falcon and LoRab and where's another wagon on someone in my POE pool featuring two people I have an easier time trusting. I'm open to the Simon option. I might swap again. I dunno. I said before that every...
by JaggedJimmyJay
Thu Mar 28, 2024 8:45 pm
Forum: The Heist
Topic: Kagemusha (N3)
Replies: 1055
Views: 4094

Re: Kagemusha (D3)

meant to be [VOTE: LoRab] aubergine
by JaggedJimmyJay
Thu Mar 28, 2024 8:45 pm
Forum: The Heist
Topic: Kagemusha (N3)
Replies: 1055
Views: 4094

Re: Kagemusha (D3)

LoRab

Trust the other voters more
by JaggedJimmyJay
Thu Mar 28, 2024 8:44 pm
Forum: The Heist
Topic: Kagemusha (N3)
Replies: 1055
Views: 4094

Re: Kagemusha (D3)

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by JaggedJimmyJay
Thu Mar 28, 2024 8:39 pm
Forum: The Heist
Topic: Kagemusha (N3)
Replies: 1055
Views: 4094

Re: Kagemusha (D3)

sig is probably my top town read overall now. I'm dropping him from Wilgykillgate. motobot is still a town read, but I can't drop him from that group. Tony is a not mafia read. Epi is mostly a town read. falcon might be coming around to a town read? Uh. Long Con has behaved in a town manner for the ...
by JaggedJimmyJay
Thu Mar 28, 2024 8:36 pm
Forum: The Heist
Topic: Kagemusha (N3)
Replies: 1055
Views: 4094

Re: Kagemusha (D3)

falcon's reads list, at my request, seemed decent. It makes sense for him to have those reads from his position in a semi-POE pool (e.g., doubts about motobot that nobody else expressed).
by JaggedJimmyJay
Thu Mar 28, 2024 8:32 pm
Forum: The Heist
Topic: Kagemusha (N3)
Replies: 1055
Views: 4094

Re: Kagemusha (D3)

TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Mar 28, 2024 7:31 pm
Long Con wrote: Thu Mar 28, 2024 6:52 pm
sig wrote: Thu Mar 28, 2024 6:08 pm I’m not sure if I like how closely aligned my ideas are with falcon or not this game
I feel tied up in a double-not when I read this.
you’re the problem voter here
What does this mean?
by JaggedJimmyJay
Thu Mar 28, 2024 8:24 pm
Forum: The Heist
Topic: Kagemusha (N3)
Replies: 1055
Views: 4094

Re: Kagemusha (D3)

Sure. Simon had that one post I liked, but it isn't that hard to reframe him as "not really making reads". Even that post about me was largely a set of questions and speculations and really an assessment of me. He also cleanly fits into the "would kill DrWilgy" group. Simon falco...
by JaggedJimmyJay
Thu Mar 28, 2024 8:21 pm
Forum: The Heist
Topic: Kagemusha (N3)
Replies: 1055
Views: 4094

Re: Kagemusha (D3)

Hey gang. Getting murdered at work. Are we going with Simon? I can be sold on that. Let me take a look.
by JaggedJimmyJay
Thu Mar 28, 2024 2:17 pm
Forum: The Heist
Topic: Kagemusha (N3)
Replies: 1055
Views: 4094

Re: Kagemusha (D3)

@falcon45ca please me a single read other than “Jay is mafia”.
by JaggedJimmyJay
Thu Mar 28, 2024 2:16 pm
Forum: The Heist
Topic: Kagemusha (N3)
Replies: 1055
Views: 4094

Re: Kagemusha (D3)

I like that a lot, Long Con. falcon45ca This is what I'm talking about when I say you're milquetoast & the flavour of whomever is sitting at the table I'm trying not to tunnel out of stubbornness as I have a habit of that, but this just reinforces my read on you My vote has been on either you o...
by JaggedJimmyJay
Thu Mar 28, 2024 2:16 pm
Forum: The Heist
Topic: Kagemusha (N3)
Replies: 1055
Views: 4094

Re: Kagemusha (D3)

I like that a lot, Long Con. falcon45ca This is what I'm talking about when I say you're milquetoast & the flavour of whomever is sitting at the table My vote has been on either you or LoRab all day. I don’t care. I'm trying not to tunnel out of stubbornness as I have a habit of that, but this ...
by JaggedJimmyJay
Thu Mar 28, 2024 12:42 pm
Forum: Events
Topic: The Mafia Championship - Season 11
Replies: 43
Views: 701

Re: The Mafia Championship - Season 11

Delta wrote: Thu Mar 28, 2024 10:53 am Appreciate the nomination, I really didnt expect it considering I didnt think I'd been around enough to be considered a good representative of the Syndicate so I'm honoured :D

Tentative accept for now but not 100%, still on the fence about it a bit ;;'
Welcome to the hivemind. :srsnod:
by JaggedJimmyJay
Thu Mar 28, 2024 12:41 pm
Forum: The Heist
Topic: Kagemusha (N3)
Replies: 1055
Views: 4094

Re: Kagemusha (D3)

I may not vote falcon in the end for reasons, but it’s frustratingly inconclusive.
by JaggedJimmyJay
Thu Mar 28, 2024 12:34 pm
Forum: The Heist
Topic: Kagemusha (N3)
Replies: 1055
Views: 4094

Re: Kagemusha (D3)

I like that a lot, Long Con.

[VOTE: falcon45ca] aubergine
by JaggedJimmyJay
Thu Mar 28, 2024 1:44 am
Forum: Events
Topic: The Mafia Championship - Season 11
Replies: 43
Views: 701

Re: The Mafia Championship - Season 11

Understandable, MR. Same on basically all fronts, minus the official decline.

What if everyone declines! Maybe I'll just call on a student myself.
by JaggedJimmyJay
Thu Mar 28, 2024 12:43 am
Forum: The Heist
Topic: Kagemusha (N3)
Replies: 1055
Views: 4094

Re: Kagemusha (D3)

@TonyStarkPrime, your best guess at a team of two or three?
by JaggedJimmyJay
Thu Mar 28, 2024 12:31 am
Forum: The Heist
Topic: Kagemusha (N3)
Replies: 1055
Views: 4094

Re: Kagemusha (D3)

A lot of the candidates are more or less indiscriminable, and it makes every vote feel like a guess.
by JaggedJimmyJay
Thu Mar 28, 2024 12:26 am
Forum: The Heist
Topic: Kagemusha (N3)
Replies: 1055
Views: 4094

Re: Kagemusha (D3)

Long Con wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2024 4:01 pm While "I did that kill just so I could say why it wasn't me" is not as common as many sleuths would hope... "Let's kill that guy because it implicates someone easily" IS a common thing.
What did you have in mind when you posted this?
by JaggedJimmyJay
Thu Mar 28, 2024 12:24 am
Forum: The Heist
Topic: Kagemusha (N3)
Replies: 1055
Views: 4094

Re: Kagemusha (D3)

I suppose my hang up is the expectation that everyone is going to play "optimally" as mafia. I have hosted a ton and that just doesn't happen all the time. To be clear: most people won't. In this particular case, there is a core mechanic at work. Some people would miss it. I think some pe...
by JaggedJimmyJay
Thu Mar 28, 2024 12:20 am
Forum: The Heist
Topic: Kagemusha (N3)
Replies: 1055
Views: 4094

Re: Kagemusha (D3)

Clarification:

I don't think it's "terribly balanced" is bad wording. It is poorly balanced.
by JaggedJimmyJay
Thu Mar 28, 2024 12:20 am
Forum: The Heist
Topic: Kagemusha (N3)
Replies: 1055
Views: 4094

Re: Kagemusha (D3)

13 players. Three mafia is 10-3 ordinarily, which is not balanced and I think you know that. You are buying that Tony is indie, which makes it 9-3-1. I feel like YOU aren't thinking things through. You could have even made a mistake as a killer. Right? 10-3 games are very ordinary. I don't think it...
by JaggedJimmyJay
Thu Mar 28, 2024 12:17 am
Forum: The Heist
Topic: Kagemusha (N3)
Replies: 1055
Views: 4094

Re: Kagemusha (D3)

I've love some standalone reads on falcon, LoRab, and Simon without regard for theory relating to Wilgy's death. If anyone could pop open those posts and say "this is suspicious" or "this is a civilian", that'd go a long way. I only barely care about my own behavioral judgments i...
by JaggedJimmyJay
Thu Mar 28, 2024 12:15 am
Forum: The Heist
Topic: Kagemusha (N3)
Replies: 1055
Views: 4094

Re: Kagemusha (D3)

True.

I'm fine with treating the day as a last resort even if it isn't.
by JaggedJimmyJay
Thu Mar 28, 2024 12:13 am
Forum: The Heist
Topic: Kagemusha (N3)
Replies: 1055
Views: 4094

Re: Kagemusha (D3)

Epignosis wrote: Thu Mar 28, 2024 12:12 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Thu Mar 28, 2024 12:08 am If I had to guess a team of three right this instant...

falcon, LoRab, Simon
Why a team of three?
Seems a safer assumption than a team of two, but two is possible.
by JaggedJimmyJay
Thu Mar 28, 2024 12:11 am
Forum: The Heist
Topic: Kagemusha (N3)
Replies: 1055
Views: 4094

Re: Kagemusha (D3)

Epignosis wrote: Thu Mar 28, 2024 12:08 am Sell me on LoRab.
Confidence only moderate if that, but the bare bones:

- Fits the profile of someone that may make the Wilgy kill despite the mechanical problems
- Accepted my theory (and my civilianhood) without a moment's hesitation and voted falcon. I'm not sure that was a natural decision.
by JaggedJimmyJay
Thu Mar 28, 2024 12:08 am
Forum: The Heist
Topic: Kagemusha (N3)
Replies: 1055
Views: 4094

Re: Kagemusha (D3)

If I had to guess a team of three right this instant...

falcon, LoRab, Simon
by JaggedJimmyJay
Thu Mar 28, 2024 12:06 am
Forum: The Heist
Topic: Kagemusha (N3)
Replies: 1055
Views: 4094

Re: Kagemusha (D3)

Oh, I read that. I'm just saying I wouldn't mind playing the long game for credibility and I think you'd do something similar (and LC certainly wouldn't be opposed to that). Maybe that's true in your case. But I am not making a mechanically suboptimal kill unless it provides some kind of clear and ...
by JaggedJimmyJay
Wed Mar 27, 2024 11:59 pm
Forum: The Heist
Topic: Kagemusha (N3)
Replies: 1055
Views: 4094

Re: Kagemusha (D3)

Who's most likely to miss this critical factor and make a bad mechanical kill? falcon - maybe I guess, he's only kinda here LoRab - could be, has missed a ton motobot - could be, new to mechanical problems like this Simon - could be, new to mechanical problems like this sig - maybe I guess, he's on...
by JaggedJimmyJay
Wed Mar 27, 2024 11:57 pm
Forum: The Heist
Topic: Kagemusha (N3)
Replies: 1055
Views: 4094

Re: Kagemusha (D3)

I'll be frank: The mafia just blundered. It's our responsibility to avoid responding to a blunder with a new blunder. So if the civilians out there have doubts about this rationale, they need to voice them with a level head. I don't want to see generic "naw that's BS" responses followed b...
by JaggedJimmyJay
Wed Mar 27, 2024 11:55 pm
Forum: The Heist
Topic: Kagemusha (N3)
Replies: 1055
Views: 4094

Re: Kagemusha (D3)

JJJ I still loathe that reverse "white knight" treatment I was subjected to the other day. I do not in the least think JJJ believed the Epi / moto theory. There's so much backtracking it makes British bands of the 60s and 70s jealous. You could make that hyperbole more efficient by replac...
by JaggedJimmyJay
Wed Mar 27, 2024 11:54 pm
Forum: The Heist
Topic: Kagemusha (N3)
Replies: 1055
Views: 4094

Re: Kagemusha (D3)

I'll be frank: The mafia just blundered. It's our responsibility to avoid responding to a blunder with a new blunder. So if the civilians out there have doubts about this rationale, they need to voice them with a level head. I don't want to see generic "naw that's BS" responses followed b...
by JaggedJimmyJay
Wed Mar 27, 2024 10:53 pm
Forum: The Heist
Topic: Kagemusha (N3)
Replies: 1055
Views: 4094

Re: Kagemusha (D3)

@Simon do you have any theories about why Scotty and DrWilgy were killed in the night phases?

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