The Syndicate

The seer identifies werewolves. The cop identifies mafia.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:29 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:29 pm Good game, gang.

Eloh and sprityo both had tough roads in this game, so props for making things exciting. Thanks for running a good burglary, DDL!

No regrets.

I figured you could be a gov't role, or you could be full of shit (and without substantive posts in the thread I wasn't giving you any space) -- and if it's the latter you're never getting lynched unless I scream about it. Besides, it led to sprityo killing you (I presume), trying to pin it on me, and in so doing revealing his hand.

Good game, gang.

Eloh and sprityo both had tough roads in this game, so props for making things exciting. Thanks for running a good burglary, DDL!

If I had to vote for the lynch right now, it'd be Elohcin.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:09 pm I can check someone each night

what do you mean by check, and who have you checked already?

We need to hurry folks. Someone's about to die.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:08 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:06 pm Daisy, role claim please. No reason to witthold now.
I'm not withholding. I gave my real role claim right up front dude. I am vanilla townie.

Oh, I missed that. Okay.

Elohcin, what exactly is your role?

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:07 pm I understand what you're saying Jay, but I also just can't dismiss his response to my initial pressure. Baddie MP would not come at me like that, he would want to set me at ease. I just don't see "bullfuckingshit" being the response a bad MP would give if I cast suspicion his way. It's needlessly confrontational. This is the point I struggle with.

I understand, and you may be right. I think we can just solve the game though if you claim now.

MP, why would you reveal your tracker target?

MP's claim makes me lean back to Elohcin.

Daisy, role claim please. No reason to witthold now.

MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:06 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:04 pm
MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:03 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:02 pm
MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:01 pm Explain further. I don't see how I could I be seen as opportunistic.
I wouldn't expect civilian Elohcin to be a fountain of reasoned, thoroughly stated reads in a burglary game. You demanded she be that.
I didn't demand anything; I'm trying to get a read on her.
You were perfectly ready to kill her for the majority of Day 2. When she stated reads, you dug into her demanding expansion and thoroughness for which she just isn't known. That looks opportunistic to me. I don't see "MP wants to get a read on her", I see "MP wants to lynch her".
Then you're seeing it all wrong. I wanted to get an idea of where her head was at. All she said was she suspected me for vague gut-based reasons, then suddenly said she townread you even when I just asked her earlier she hadn't any other reads. I was trying to reconcile whether she was lying or telling the truth.

Where are your reads at currently?

MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:03 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:02 pm
MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:01 pm Explain further. I don't see how I could I be seen as opportunistic.
I wouldn't expect civilian Elohcin to be a fountain of reasoned, thoroughly stated reads in a burglary game. You demanded she be that.
I didn't demand anything; I'm trying to get a read on her.

You were perfectly ready to kill her for the majority of Day 2. When she stated reads, you dug into her demanding expansion and thoroughness for which she just isn't known. That looks opportunistic to me. I don't see "MP wants to get a read on her", I see "MP wants to lynch her".

MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:01 pm Explain further. I don't see how I could I be seen as opportunistic.

I wouldn't expect civilian Elohcin to be a fountain of reasoned, thoroughly stated reads in a burglary game. You demanded she be that.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:59 pmWhy MP?

MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:59 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:58 pm If one baddie remains I think it's MP or Eloh, and for the moment I am leaning MP.
It's not me.

And why?

The two of them interacted directly quite a lot on Day 2, and in review I think MP looked like the opportunist and Elohcin the prey. I also thought he looked compatible with sprityo, though I acknowledge that means less with the near-random team dynamics.

If one baddie remains I think it's MP or Eloh, and for the moment I am leaning MP.

sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:55 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:54 pmAgain?
I'm positive that jay is the one that shot me and my vest protected me

You think I shot Epi and you on the same night?

Not sure the vote changes all counted. The poll doesn't lock when he locks them.

sprityo's vest shit sounds fake to me. I want him dead. I can reconcile Eloh choosing a nightly action over a one shot.

MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:45 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:44 pm I don't know what sprit's vest is. I'm a lover cop though, so fucking move your votes.

Why did you just out yourself as cop? You had little pressure.

The day will end any second and I was tied for the lead. As a lover, any other lover dies with me. It could ruin the game.

VOTE sprityo

I ID'd Epi last night. I didn't think my rage suspect was getting offed.

I don't know what sprit's vest is. I'm a lover cop though, so fucking move your votes.

Concern: MP is holding Eloh to the standard I held Epi to. This isn't ideal, because Eloh and Epi are very different players with very different styles/tendencies.

Eloh, what made you choose the one you did choose?

Eloh, reads on everyone please. Quote me:

JJJ
sprit
Mp
Daisy

Did Eloh role claim somewhere? I missed it if so

[mention]Dragon D. Luffy[/mention] time update please

MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:35 pm I actually feel OK about Jay and Daisy at the moment. My gut has finally stopped yelling at you, Jay, at least momentarily.

Why?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:35 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:29 pm I turned it down in favor of a government job.
I don't see a government job which I'd expect Epi to even hint at in his first post. Scum.

^^^

I don't know why Eloh trusts me. Looks like TMI. Voting Elohcin.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:31 pm Didn't think of what? Epi might be hinting with his constant mention of government? Or why Jay didn't pick up on it. You not picking up on it would not surprise me. You are just as bad as me about role hints, maybe worse.

I did pick up on it, and I thought he was full of shit. Every goverment role is strong, and I didn't think he'd provide such an obvious hint on Day 0 to that. It's probably why he's dead now.

MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:31 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:28 pm Well the worst looking player remaining is sprityo. I'll attempt to reassess as quickly as possible.
What about Elo?

I may be blinded by sprit's bizarre logic right now, but she looks bad too.

sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:29 pm look at this:

Tunnel epi all day
tunnel epi all night
kill epi
"oh wow look someone is trying to blame me for this"

gets away

NOT TO MENTION Epi wouldve kept pushing on Jay again today, a risk that JJJ would not keep since no one else posed a risk to him with rico and epi dead

You're highroading me hard for tunneling on him, and yet I haven't the slightest clue what your own read on him was. So what was it?

sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:28 pm oh wow. thats..... hmm. Yeah VOTE JJJ

That's the least authentic post of all time, so take a vote of your own.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:27 pm Guys do you want me to raise the time limit to 30/15 min instead of 20/10?

20 is better for me because my time is already tight, but listen to the majority. More time helps civs at least.

Well the worst looking player remaining is sprityo. I'll attempt to reassess as quickly as possible.

Well now the dynamic changed.

sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:25 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:24 pm
People change their minds when new things happen in a game thread. The ones who don't are the problem.
HENCE why you look awful voting Epi

WHEN NEW THINGS HAPPEN

The Epi dynamic has never changed in this game. The Elohcin dynamic did change. I have absolutely no reason to give Epignosis any credit right now. Nothing.

MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:24 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:22 pm
MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:20 pm
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:19 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:18 pm
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:17 pm Quick ISO of Epi makes me trust Jay less.
If that implies you trust him at all, then please tell me why. I look at his posts and I see Jaqueline Shit.
That really surprises me if you are being honest. Could be why I'm not convinced you are.
I agree, something's wrong with Jay. He came to his conclusions that you and I are town too easily IMO. And his flip on Elo didn't read genuine.
Daisy looked authentic in her reaction to sprityo's fake Rico flip.
You looked authentic getting super pissy when she suspected you.

I don't give a shit how I look. I don't have time for that. Elo's forecast of the Rico flip looked a lot worse than Daisy's.
See, that makes sense to me, and so my brain says you're cool. My gut says you're faking it. Hence my dilemma.

One reason you can trust your brain: multiple evil teams allows for legitimate hunting anyway. I'd have no reason for faking.

sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:24 pm Jay looks bad because he's trying too hard to lynch epi

he's tunneling and in a short game that's always one of two things

Distancing from teammate (works less) and mafia pushing town. Town only tunnels when they feel trapped/threatened, etc

Garbage. Terrible.

Orange is plain untrue.

I'm trying hard to lynch my top scum read. What are you doing right now other than softly promoting a bad atmosphere for me?

sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:24 pm Jay looks bad because he's trying too hard to lynch epi

he's tunneling and in a short game that's always one of two things

Distancing from teammate (works less) and mafia pushing town. Town only tunnels when they feel trapped/threatened, etc

Garbage. Terrible.

Orange is plain untrue.

I'm trying hard to lynch my top scum read. What are you doing right now other than softly promoting a bad atmosphere for me?

sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:22 pm 1. your weird trust/not trust flipping

2. i mean her discarded role

"weird" is meaningless shite. You're more suspicious than before this post.

People change their minds when new things happen in a game thread. The ones who don't are the problem.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:20 pm Look, my posts are the government. Some good stuff here and there, sure, but flooded with a ton of waste and purposelessness.

I don't see any good stuff. I see plenty of waste.

MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:20 pm
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:19 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:18 pm
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:17 pm Quick ISO of Epi makes me trust Jay less.
If that implies you trust him at all, then please tell me why. I look at his posts and I see Jaqueline Shit.
That really surprises me if you are being honest. Could be why I'm not convinced you are.
I agree, something's wrong with Jay. He came to his conclusions that you and I are town too easily IMO. And his flip on Elo didn't read genuine.

Daisy looked authentic in her reaction to sprityo's fake Rico flip.
You looked authentic getting super pissy when she suspected you.

I don't give a shit how I look. I don't have time for that. Elo's forecast of the Rico flip looked a lot worse than Daisy's.

Most to least trusted:

Daisy
MP
sprit
Eloh
Epi

Mental gymnastics happening hardcore in this thread. Irritating.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:18 pm Jay seemed to make it out like Epi was doing nothing, and that is not at all how I read his posts.

He was clearly saying from early on he doesn't trust you, and he was defending himself from you as well.

There are more than jokes to be found in Epi's posts.

I see literally fuck all. Fuck all. Show me anything of use.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:18 pm In the last burglary, I tried really hard and lost.

Epi doesn't change his ways because of one failure. B/S.

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