The Syndicate

I laughed at myself a bit when I realized I had been hard-defending lapluie, Sonya Blade, for most of the game.

Such a foolish lynch that was.

lapluie wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 4:34 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 4:28 am

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 4:27 am Jay that day we lynched Made instead of Eloh were you really convinced by Eloh's defenses or just going along with whatever. Cus I was pretty much doing the latter.

I was full of shit. Made was one of my candidates to be Sonya Blade.

I wasn't a very good sonya blade tbh.. got dunya lynched..

You certainly did a great job holding me off. You were literally the last player to die; that's how close I had to finish this dang win condition.

As a non-civilian, I honestly found the dunya lynch baffling. She was transparently civilian; she made like 300 posts in one cycle as a replacement. I have never seen a mafia member explode like that in my life. Sometimes tinfoiling goes way too far to make sense.

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 4:33 am I was hoping to set myself up as a liaison of sorts between the mafia team and you, in that you would indicate who you needed dead, and we would kill them. But as I thought some amount of trust was being established, you instead turned around and pushed for my lynch.

Mafia is a game, I know. I find it hard to remind myself of that sometimes. At the time, I found it incredibly hard to justify the actions you were taking, and was bothered by your tone at times. But if I ever unjustly lashed out at you, I apologize. I don't recall if I did, but I did feel the urge to do so.

No worries at all, and to be fair my tone probably was a frustrating one. I felt like I had to be extra assertive to get anyone to listen to me given that it was generally well-known that I was Kano and thus hard to trust.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 4:27 am Jay that day we lynched Made instead of Eloh were you really convinced by Eloh's defenses or just going along with whatever. Cus I was pretty much doing the latter.

I was full of shit. Made was one of my candidates to be Sonya Blade.

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 4:18 am Jay, you were hellbent on trying to lynch me in this game (and coincidentally, also in Fiddler on the Roof).

Why?

I knew you were Goro because I had two letters from your name (G and O). The only other role you could be at the time was Kung Lao, and when I asked you a bunch of questions about ties it was obvious you weren't that role. I had to cut into the mafia numbers to keep the game long enough for civilians to be night killed per my win condition. Another mislynch or two before the time was right would have lost the civilians and I the game simultaneously. The simultaneous suspicion in Fiddler on the Roof was just coincidental.

lapluie, in your first game ever on this website you made over 500 posts and weren't afraid at any juncture to provide your honest reads. You're off to a great start.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:53 am JaggedJimmyJay, I followed your lead on the marmot lynch even though I probably shouldn't have... I tracked him using Dunya's power(I think?) and saw you targeted marmot, technically at that point it would have been in my best interest to cause as many mis-lynches as possible, but I had just gotten murdered so i wanted to lynch the mafia instead.

I should have been actively working against you more than I did. My wincon incentivized making the game end with the most players alive as possible while yours incentivized doing the opposite. collecting your soul was vital though. the mafia and town were unlikely to ever be in a situation where killing you would be a good choice. that's why I campaigned so hard for keeping you around.

It's fortunate for me that my attempt to lynch Elohcin via the Ermac sock ended up failing.

Glorfindel drawing the role that detects lies is the greatest thing.

Basically every read I made after claiming independent was b/s in some way or another unless my two-letter checks gave me a reason.

I had G-O on Marmot with only two possibilities: Kung Lao and Goro. I asked a bunch of questions about ties to indicate if me might be the former and then pursued the lynch.

I think I had four people at one point whose letters were compatible with Sonya Blade. That drove me nuts. Thankfully I narrowed it down to lapluie when her S-O only fit that or Sub-Zero.

For a while I felt good that Long Con was Jax. He looked like he was soft-claiming it, and if so he did well because I bought it. I specifically made him the only "blue" name in a rainbow list so the mafia team would kill him. A bit later when I found myself silenced and vote-blocked I was most displeased -- particularly given that it lined up with speedchuck's gambit.

Thanks mafia, especially Elohcin, for taking my word for it when I told you to kill me.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2018 10:29 pm I also don't know why JJJ told the mafia the game would end if Kylemii was lynched. That clearly wasn't true.

90% bullshit. I was trying to keep Kyle alive and I knew Dave wasn't mafia (and had the letters to be Sonya, though I figured it was lapluie), so I wanted to switch to him. I didn't want Kyle to lose the game when he was silenced. I also thought saving his life might get him on my side in a possible Day 10 lynch of lapluie if needed.

I'm glad Kyle's lynch didn't prevent him from winning. Both of us were playing as true to the indy spirit as we could, I think. Just having a good time.

Good game mafia and well done. Sorry I had to oppose you in the end civilians. It wasn't a deliberate choice. It was forced after I took so damned long to eliminate my marks.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2018 10:20 pmand I did not think it would be fair at all to make JJJ a kingmaker, which is what he would have ended up becoming.

Thank you. I was dreading that possibility, second only to an even worse one (albeit unlikely):

Three players are left alive in a 1 vs 1 vs 1 scenario. The mafia tried to kill me previously, and I have a day kill. I use it on the person who isn't lynched, and the other one is. I am the only survivor.

Surprise everyone, I was Kano.

Nor have I. I assembled the big statistical spreadsheets after a bunch of games for kicks, but I haven't maintained one during a game except as a host.

Mafia: the next step is clear. I hope you’re paying attention.

Hopefully that didn’t screw Kyle out of a win when he couldn’t talk. That would be lame.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:50 pm It Dave was the last Mafia, the game would be over already. The host wouldn't let it go on. He has been a no show for almost 1 month now, he isn't showing up D9.

Welcome to The Syndicate.

There was no kill. There’s reason to suspect only one mafia member is alive. Dave is inactive.

Simple stuff.

I’m busy as crap this evening and will probably not be able to follow the dialogue live. I’ll try to poke in.

lapluie wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 7:02 pm

Elohcin wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:58 pm And....if Jay was here, maybe he would have joined chuck and aligned himself with mafia for the win. but he wasn't and couldn't. I think Jay is with us. I think we can get this last baddie.

"The last baddie"? Didn't you mention speed chuck saying there was two? the other is quin.hello....why domt we go for quin.

speedchuck says there are two left.

speedchuck is one.

The other one makes two.

lapluie wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:48 pm Uh...There's only 2 mafias left....

Could be.

Mac sure seemed to think one of them was killed in the night. speedchuck claimed he only had one living teammate. Who knows.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:47 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:43 pm Listen, I am trying to help you people keep this game fairly balanced for everyone. If you're going to lynch an obvious independent, I can't stop you. It probably is Dave.

The thing is, I don't want it fairly balanced for everyone. I want Town to crush Mafia and Anti-Town Independents, like yourself.

This game does not feature anti-town independents. It features independents. What I am saying is that you may be on course to rob Kyle of a chance to win the game with no benefit to yourself regardless of your alignment. It's out of balance for him.

lapluie wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:44 pm Hey @JaggedJimmyJay if you think Dave is the other mafia alongside quin, & NOT kyle.. wouldn't it be best to lynch quin then?

The implication of Dave being mafia would be that he's mafia alone and missed the night kill. There's no need for Quin to be mafia with him. It's also possible that Quin is mafia, but I have not seen any actual case for that. If you think he's the one then make the case.

Listen, I am trying to help you people keep this game fairly balanced for everyone. If you're going to lynch an obvious independent, I can't stop you. It probably is Dave.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:40 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:40 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:38 pm

Elohcin wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 5:55 pm I don't know why, but I have such a nagging feeling that we should be trusting jay and not lap.

I don't know how you could say that. If you haven't been following the last day phases, JJJ tried to ally himself with Mafia and asked them to kill Lapluie. This ties with his wincon. It's safe to conclude that Lapluie is Town and she's also one of the roles he has to eliminated in order to win.

You're not reading the nuance. I also told them to kill me last night.

What nuance ? That's after admitting defeat. It means absolutely nothing.

Yeah, you're not seeing past the surface.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:38 pm

Elohcin wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 5:55 pm I don't know why, but I have such a nagging feeling that we should be trusting jay and not lap.

I don't know how you could say that. If you haven't been following the last day phases, JJJ tried to ally himself with Mafia and asked them to kill Lapluie. This ties with his wincon. It's safe to conclude that Lapluie is Town and she's also one of the roles he has to eliminated in order to win.

You're not reading the nuance. I also told them to kill me last night.

Voted Dave.

I'm fine with 24.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:28 pm why couldn't Dave be mafia? There was no kill last night after chuck's lynch. perhaps no one was there to turn in a pm

It's possible.

It's also plausible that Kyle cannot speak in this thread today, and if he is the Ermac sock in this instance, the self-vote was a means of expressing his being silenced. We'll see if the vote ever moves, but regardless Ermac sock voting Kyle does not equate to Kyle is not indy.

It should be telling that I am the one providing this take, being the clear indy on the board.

It's a 24-hour day. I don't know why. Perhaps the hosts just want us to get on with it.

Also, mafia member(s): I hope you realize that lynching Kyle is the equivalent of losing the game. It may not be readily apparent to you, so just think it through.

*talks in dead*

Kyle you must vote lapluie or you will lose. I don’t mean to give you an ultimatum. The civilians have forced your hand.

I miscalculated before though regarding novaselinenever. The correct lynch to establish proper order is lapluie.

It is highly unlikely that Kyle is mafia. Indeed it’s the lowest likelihood in the game other than my likelihood.

I don’t think the Ermac sock and the Ermac role have to be the same person.

lapluie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 11:34 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 11:12 pm The next step in the operation is to lynch novaselinenever. This is for the greater balance and the best moral choice.

Why nova & not me? Didn't you want me dead?hmm?

The game of Mafia behaves in strange ways, doesn’t it?

The next step in the operation is to lynch novaselinenever. This is for the greater balance and the best moral choice.

Sure are a lot of noisy corpses around here.

I received one A-minus in my undergraduate degree program. My final GPA was 3.99.

Fuck A-minus.

He was okay until he was graded 9/10

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 1:07 am Mafia, if you want a chance to win: kill me.

This isn’t a threat. This isn’t a resignation.

Do it.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 1:18 am If anyone out there just so happens to have a talent for copying powers, you should Baraka the vote away from a civilian.

To reassure everyone that these pertain to that I am serious and sincere:

click to see my dedication to what I am saying

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 1:37 am yeah............... but like................ have you considered..... uhhhhhhhhhhh

I have.

Don’t mistake this for revenge. This maximizes the win chance in balance for each remaining faction.