The Syndicate

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@Dyson sphere @motel room play more.

I do think you probably should have voted me instead of Dyson, Scotty.

The presence of a mafia role that can distribute misleading information to town immediately made me want to ignore mechanics and just play the game mountainous. To Mac's credit though, he claimed quickly, there was no need for a counter, and it negated that entire dynamic. The mafia power role is at least arguably harmful to them by the percentages, so it could be called a null or even crippled role -- in that way the setup could probably use a tweak. That role itself could stand to be strengthened for mafia utility.

12 vs. 3 is also the upper-bound of what I would call "balanced" in Syndicate games, as in that's about as pro-town as you can make the numbers without it being too much (with 9:2 being okay for raw mountainous). Add the power role situation and that changes to just a straight pro-town game.

I don't think the game was badly balanced though. Town won this predominantly via the hunt and just locked it shut with mechanics. I actually feel a little bad, because if I hadn't joined there's a decent chance my own slot dies on Day 1 and Scotty is free to cause mayhem thereafter. Games can turn very easily on things unrelated to their structure.

juliets wrote: ↑Sat Aug 21, 2021 3:37 pm @JaggedJimmyJay thanks for the new sig! It'll be longer than a lot of my posts but I don't care -

Hey sure, hopefully it helps.

Nanook and Alison are right behind with 12 each.

We've played a lot of games this year.

@MacDougall has now tied @DrWilgy's record for most wins in a single calendar year at 13.

Thanks to @Alison for subbing into a difficult spot and putting forth a strong effort. There's only so much one can do there, and she at least had us guided toward one mischop with the easy potential for a second.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Aug 21, 2021 3:26 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Aug 21, 2021 3:22 pm Thats why I wasn't worried like Jay, I knew we could lock the game as long as I survived the night, which seemed likely

Worst case scenario (that i survive in), if Dyson had been town

Jay's slot is always town

I have a green on falcon + whoever i track, let's say tutu

I'm obviously town in that world

Thats four clears, which locks the game, and that's not even counting tsp who was nearly clear when mac died over me


So yeah, I get why jay had concerns, but that's why I wasn't worried

Werd.

Truth be told I just wanted the game to wake up if it continued, but if I was truly worried I'd have probably played harder. This was a cozy one.

Thanks for the game @Syn!

Always good to remember that there is no such thing as a Mafia circumstance that is worth real human emotion. Sometimes it will naturally come out, but it can be contained if we just remember that this is a game on a message board forum that 99.99% of the population of the Earth has never heard of before. No matter how successful anyone is, it means just about nothing.

I tried as hard as I could to care about mechanics.

(I know they became critical late for clearances)

Stop Killing Dyachei On Night 1

Cool beans. Good game everyone.

If this game continues onward, I am still not going to be able to do much. The semester begins Monday, and I have an absolute assload to deal with. I would have to ask my town teammates to carry the torch and turn this complacency into effort, because we would officially be in a position where it is needed. We "earned" a few days of lazy with those lucky coin flip chops, but the game can be lost. It's exactly what happened in Shockheaded Peter Mafia after two successful mafia eliminations on Days 1 and 2. Dig down deep and find the will to win. I will try my best if I am here to do my part, but know that my best will be limited.

If we're fortunate none of that will be necessary, and the game will end in a half hour. I can only shrug.

My mafia wins usually come with most or all of the team intact. Bussing is for noobs.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Aug 21, 2021 1:52 pm Jay when was the last time you endgamed

Don't remember. If you mean as mafia specifically it'd probably be the season 6 scrimmage here, but that was with mafia Mac and nutella both still alive with me. Solo I think I have to reach back to 2017 to the first Phenon Origins game (sockpuppets). I am hardly ever mafia.

Dyson sphere wrote: ↑Sat Aug 21, 2021 1:15 pm Look, one of the 9 remaining users has to be scum and I know it isn't me. So that leaves 8, and I'm, like, 99% sure it's Radishes.

I wish I had a clue why you would claim that level of confidence.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Aug 21, 2021 12:44 pm If the game doesn't end motel should probably track radishes

concur

It was Dyson sphere

In the mafia chat

With the keyboard

Dyson feels like he has had enough.

CONTENT FOR SALE $5 PER POST

THIS IS A RELEVANT CONTENT POST.

It hasn't failed us yet in two chances.

sure okay super cool beans neato

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Aug 20, 2021 12:02 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Aug 20, 2021 11:48 am I will grant that I am unclear on why falcon is town, and I'm going to need any town players out there with that perspective to clarify.

If falcon was Maf, D1 wouldn't have ended in a tie

How would you have avoided the tie? Both you and Scotty voted for the premier counter on Dyson.

I will grant that I am unclear on why falcon is town, and I'm going to need any town players out there with that perspective to clarify.

Dyson sphere wrote: ↑Fri Aug 20, 2021 11:12 am What day was it when I was almost lynched?

1

Dyson sphere wrote: ↑Fri Aug 20, 2021 11:10 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Aug 19, 2021 5:10 pm My first guess yesterday was Dyson, so it's possible I leveled myself out of the truth. If I only get four names he'd be difficult to leave out.

You're just alternating between sussing me and not sussing me. I didn't change. I'm difficult to leave out of any party. (that looks like a wanking emoji)

You didn't change, but the game did.

Dyson sphere wrote: ↑Fri Aug 20, 2021 10:54 am Yeah, I didn't want to get killed on day 1 lol

I'm not sure what you mean. I believe that you didn't want to get killed on Day 1, but how does that relate to Alison's post?

I give zero craps about “wagonomics”.

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Aug 11, 2021 9:45 am Want to hear from dyson and lomo.
Dyson, what’s the best vaccuum to buy?
Lomo, are you going to slank til you get vigged or are we going to have to lynch you early?

If this is the only post suggestive of town Dyson then I no longer care.

Half of Dyson’s reads in this game have looked fake to me, contrary to popular opinion.

Dyson was my first instinct yesterday, before Mizery.

He’s in the POE that felt good enough before. I’m not inclined to deviate yet.

[VOTE: Dyson sphere] aubergine

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Aug 13, 2021 3:14 pm Scotty
4
Voters: RondoDimBuckle, Master Radishes, JaggedJimmyJay, dunya

Wagon was tied for top. Anyone could have shifted at any time. They held fast to the wagon. Nightkill was on wagon. I am taking all of these to be cleared for now. tutuu and Dyson also seem spewed town by Scotty's ISO.

Dyson is the standout here. All of this rationale can be called well-supported except for the rationale pertaining to Dyson.

I’ll acknowledge that there’s a little ~game feels weird~ happening, so thinking outside the box is healthy. I doubt I’ll be voting Radishes this phase though.

The hunt does need to accelerate though. I wish I could be more helpful, but the new semester is starting soon. I have to focus on that.

Okay thanks. I’m going to wait for Radishes to say words.

I’m not clear on what either of you are suggesting with regard to Radishes. Is that Alison post good or bad for him?

Maybe the best argument that Radishes is mafia is that dyachei was the Night 1 kill. dya may be a great player, but I tend to question whether anyone kills them first, before they can even make a post, without knowing who they are. That would eliminate some people in theory.

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Aug 19, 2021 5:32 pm okay im tryharding and isoing everyone

(later)

Thank you. I simply cannot.

My first guess yesterday was Dyson, so it's possible I leveled myself out of the truth. If I only get four names he'd be difficult to leave out.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Aug 19, 2021 4:46 pm I'm unpoeing jay i've given up on being spicy

can you tell me why you cleared the other non-POE people

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Aug 19, 2021 4:38 pm But like the second bit is, honest truth, I leave for college in less than 24 hours and this week's been a blur and up until now I've been multitabling so that's a thing too.

it's radishes because I just glanced at the vote totals and said to myself "yeah it's probably MR" and nobody's said anything that's made me change my mind

Why do the vote totals tell you that?

Super basic reasons to call everyone town:

Dyson - MR clear
falcon - NAA clear
MR - Day 1 vote
motel room - Mac died
Nanook - Alison posts
NAA - Day 2 vote
Tony - Alison posts
tutuu - Scotty posts

I think the Dyson defense is compelling. I don't think the falcon defense is compelling. Radishes and NAA each have similar defenses which hold up well enough for me right now; if it's either of them then it's up to the players in the POE pool to play their assess off and change the dynamic. The motel room defense is irrelevant to me at the moment until I hear something. The Nanook defense weakens with time. The Tony defense weakens with time. The tutuu defense weakens with time.

We get four more tries maximum.

Not even certain motel was peeked. We’ll see.

Tony’s the only other option that speaks to me at all. He’s not dead so sure.

I’ll await word on motel.

Otherwise falcon.

If it's not Mizery my next two up would be motel room and falcon.

I've given it a little thought as I have been away dealing with Life.

I cannot produce a compelling reason to call for this chop to be moved to someone other than Mizery. I'm not super convinced this is the right choice, but it's as agreeable at least as any alternatives I could suggest. So I ride with the team.

[VOTE: Mizery] aubergine

Dyson sphere wrote: ↑Tue Aug 17, 2021 5:27 pm How come the post titles switch between days here?

It defaults to the post title of a post being quoted.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Aug 17, 2021 3:52 pm Vote:: Radishes

Tutuu is best track

Why is it Radishes?