The Syndicate

Indeed!

I should have been more careful with sig. I felt like I had to cling to the only sanity I had left, and unfortunately it was a derp.

Yes, thanks for your efforts @leetic. And don't sweat the error. Oh well.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 10:41 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 9:24 pm Yea I’m feeling good about this
This is prolly one of the best Wolf quote of '24, @JaggedJimmyJay would you ear mark this for '24 Sockys?

I know I'll forget

I can add that to the Socky's prelim thread.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 10:25 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 10:15 pm I wanted to say "Tony might be a problem in a 2-1-1" but decided not to feed the mafia ideas. Didn't matter in the end.
I would have considered asking for an out and saying hey look if you decide ties I’ll side with you type thing

That's exactly what I was afraid of.

sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 10:15 pm Great game all around! And thanks from hosting Leetic.

I did give epi a gun thinking he’d shoot Jay if we needed it, we totally did try to set up Jay as a vote also lol and it failed.

Also this is now 2/2 where Falcon and I rolled mafia and won. I think we’re a power duo

I'm glad that didn't work, and yet it just means I had more time to fail in turn.

I wanted to say "Tony might be a problem in a 2-1-1" but decided not to feed the mafia ideas. Didn't matter in the end.

I am completely fine with that. Masterwork by sig. Tip the cap.

And good game, falcon. Way to weather the storm.

Hands clammy.

In case I die, which suddenly seems not-entirely-impossible: Epi mafia means the most likely teammate is falcon. I know we all just said that, but here's a concrete legacy post.

LoRab wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 9:24 pm Btw, I’m doing my best, but not sure I’ll make it to the end of lynch awake. My sinuses currently feel like they are going to explode. And my eyes are drooping. But I’m trying!!

I appreciate your efforts. Spring is the worst.

It'd be nice if we could manage another reverse sweep like we just saw in a recent Hustle.

Long Con and LoRab have vibe read each other as town. I don't think that's what they'd do as mafia teammates. They'd fudge something more involved than that. And it's not like that has defined LC's entire day. He was premier in making the LoRab wagon happen. I doubt they're mafia teammates. LoRab is not with falcon or Epi either.

Things are feeling logical. I hope I am not experiencing brain rot, but it is all working out in my head.

Revealing this was the right move, sig. Usually vigilante kills are simultaneous to mafia kills anyway, so it's win-win to make it public.

@Long Con can you describe what moved you on LoRab?

Bussing exists so whatever, but I am not sure LC commits to the Epi vote this casually if they're both mafia. And I believe he was happy to vote falcon. So he's hard to slot into a team.

If LoRab is town, then the mafia are Epi and falcon. Just kinda seems like that's the game?

Technically it also means a town Epi could win the game with a correct shot. But I am unwilling to take that chance.

At 5v2, if that means the mafia have three kills, even a correct elimination sends us straight to 2v1 (assuming they elect to use them all).

Oh, starting.

k

sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 9:05 pm Well okay confession time, I’ve sprinkled it throughout this phase, so if you look you could probably find it, buuuuut I’m an odd night gun smith starting night 3 and I have Epi

What'd you do on Night 1

sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 9:02 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 8:43 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 8:41 pm Some annoying WIFOM to decorate your guest bathroom:

I’m not mafia because absolutely nobody on this roster makes sense as my mafia teammate unless you think it’s exactly sig and LoRab with me.
I'm sitting in my bunker listening to radio waves with a tin hat thinking Falc/Jay is a fine combo.

The tinfoil pirate hat comes out and I think Epi/Moto.

Would Mafia epi kill Wilgy based off this?

Plausibly. He'd probably also think it's a good way to ensure I remain useless (because Wilgy suspected me too).

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 8:47 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 8:10 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 6:35 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 6:30 pm I'm going to be straight:

I have no clue about this game. My reads do come from my brain, but they feel barely better than arbitrary. I am not even close to finding comfortable footing or knowing what I am doing in this thread. While that is attributable to some degree to the state of the thread itself, I am probably also tired, old, and out of practice.

You could also be Maf
Unless activity level changes do you think we ever catch W Jay this game?
I do

It all depends on whether or not he decides to kill me in the next 2 days tho

Scotty may have given the mafia ideas.

LoRab wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 8:59 pm It’s honestly vibe and tone.

Thanks.

I know that isn't much, but sometimes there isn't much else to say. Intuition doesn't provide a big wall post.

Paranoia is probably the right way to be when a game is hanging in the balance with zero mafia dead.

sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 8:56 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 8:54 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 8:53 pm But then again lorab is very active, mafia could survive one player being flipped right? Would it make sense for her to come guns a blazing
There's more reason for her to have a sense of urgency as civilian than as mafia. I don't know how much of a difference that makes.
Yea that’s what I’m saying. So

4 v 2 assuming tony claim
4 v 1 night kills 2 v 1

That gives mafia another shot

Yes. Given the double-kill, this game can only end today if the civilians lose it. Mafia cannot lose today.

sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 8:52 pm Eh, my issues are with her answers (no offense lorab )

For example on the LC question she basically says nothing? I get the Meta side, but D4 with lots of content I need more.

Pair that with her accusing me of not reading the thread and really only focusing on the two people who are active and not pro lorab and I don’t know. I don’t see the towny angle there

In this instance she did say Epi is more suspicious than you, so it's not quite that I don't think.

More development in her LC read would be helpful. @LoRab

sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 8:53 pm But then again lorab is very active, mafia could survive one player being flipped right? Would it make sense for her to come guns a blazing

There's more reason for her to have a sense of urgency as civilian than as mafia. I don't know how much of a difference that makes.

I'd rather eliminate Epignosis than falcon, I think. I am more confident that he'd flip mafia, even if only slightly.

sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 8:46 pm This theory does all go out the window if lorab is town, which is the issue right now.

When I ask my soul "is LoRab mafia?" it is telling me no. I know there's a case for her to be mafia, but that applies to nearly everyone including me. At a certain point "do I believe her?" supplants "is she convincing me that my case is wrong?". The latter is very hard to achieve regardless of the correctness of a case anyway.

I could be wrong. I sure have been otherwise in this game. But I don't feel it.

sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 8:41 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 8:30 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 8:21 pm First guess right this instant is Epi/Long Con.

They made this wagon happened and vanished. I know it's Easter, but I have to assess the game in front of me.
Meh I probably still like falcon/Epi more. falcon's gripes today are wack.
I’d be shocked if long con wasn’t mafia

That's a more confident read than I would make about anyone lol. Why?

Pros of voting out falcon -- if he flips mafia, it basically confirms Epi as the teammate in my eyes. I wouldn't be quite as confident in reverse.

Pros of voting out Epignosis -- if he flips mafia, the more difficult elimination of the two is taken care of first.

If either flips town, the game is over so who cares.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 8:21 pm First guess right this instant is Epi/Long Con.

They made this wagon happened and vanished. I know it's Easter, but I have to assess the game in front of me.

Meh I probably still like falcon/Epi more. falcon's gripes today are wack.

sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 8:19 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 8:09 pm If I am a giant doofus and LoRab does flip mafia, that would also be fitting. Stay your pitchforks and try to exist in my head for a moment.
My biggest issue is she’s more trying to not get voted off vs trying to hunt mafia in my mind.

Having said that the other mafia member has to be on her, unless it’s you or TSP, TSP requires some HEAVY tin foiling, and right now I don’t think it’s you.

Be mindful: if we actually do eliminate mafia today, you're very likely to be night killed next. A very clear legacy is important.

First guess right this instant is Epi/Long Con.

They made this wagon happened and vanished. I know it's Easter, but I have to assess the game in front of me.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 7:26 pm
LoRab wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 7:20 pm Seriously, though. Is there anything I could have responded to that which would convince anyone that by lynching me they are handing the game to the baddies?

Because, y’all are.

And I’m exhausted (and still not fully healthy), and I’m not going to bother. There’s no way civvies will win if we don’t lynch a baddie this round, as far as I can see. In lynching me, yall are lynching a civvie.

So, I’ve kind of lost motivation to respond other than how I feel l Ike responding.

You didn't even give me an option, you said it wouldn't matter even if you did

Don't rob me of being able to make my own decision, and then act like it was all a lost cause anyhow

I don't think these are mafia teammates.

sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 8:19 pm Do we think the vote on falcon is a distancing attempt?

I don't

If I am a giant doofus and LoRab does flip mafia, that would also be fitting. Stay your pitchforks and try to exist in my head for a moment.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 8:05 pm Both mafia are currently voting LoRab.

Two among Epi, falcon, and Long Con.

Not bottom paging myself. Nope.

Probably too late. Unfortunate, but fitting for whatever this game has been.

Both mafia are currently voting LoRab.

Two among Epi, falcon, and Long Con.

LoRab wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 7:46 pm Fine.

Your consistent sharing of ideas as they come to your head, and being willing to be wrong, are both civ qualities.

Your frequency of shorter posts throughout day cycles makes it unlikely that you are also posting in ptsd.

I wouldn’t really be logical that you’d NK Wilgy, only to make the point that the baddies are likely not fully following the game. I mean, maybe? But then you’d let someone else make the actual case for the idea. I mean, occam on top of occam means, you’re likely civ.

Thanks LoRab. @falcon45ca please interact.

@LoRab there would be value in answering falcon’s question about specific examples to town read me.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 7:23 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 7:14 pm I absolutely vote null reads @falcon45ca. I have done in this and many other games. I look for civilians and null reads don’t meet the standard.

I have also said you have had town moments repeatedly this game. Treating it like I have tunneled you is just demonstrably untrue.
You absolutely have said I've had town moments, but you've also never TR me. Are you trying to say now that you have?

I don't think every post you've made is wolfy, far from it, but that doesn't mean you're not scum dude

I mean I haven’t concretely town read anyone other than sig or Tony.

Recent example of town LoRab being mischopped with the game on the line

It’s incredibly easy to envision mafia agendas aimed at making LoRab the winning play.

LoRab is a patsy. I don’t know exactly who is the perpetrator, but I’m not voting for her.

I don’t feel like falcon has read my posts.

I absolutely vote null reads @falcon45ca. I have done in this and many other games. I look for civilians and null reads don’t meet the standard.

I have also said you have had town moments repeatedly this game. Treating it like I have tunneled you is just demonstrably untrue.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 7:07 pm
LoRab wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 7:05 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 6:55 pm
LoRab wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 6:52 pm That’s because my teammates are other civs who have no other information and are lost.
Could you describe what it is about me that you find trustworthy?
Because your thoughts have been civ aligned as I red them, and tone.

I'd like to hear some specifics, cuz this is a boiler plate read

I would appreciate the same.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 7:06 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 1:33 pm Player - are they suspicious? - would I vote?

falcon45ca - no - yes
Epignosis - no - no
Princess Abigail - yes - yes
DrWilgy - no - no
LoRab - no - yes
Scotty - no - no
TonyStarkPrime - kinda? - eh?
Long Con - no - no
sig - no - no
Abigail Sophia - no - yes
motobot - no - no
Simon - yes - yes

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 6:55 pm Perhaps it's meaningful that falcon is the only player who has suspected me and never reconsidered.
You had me as not sus, yes would vote on D1

Which means the whole not sus is a non read

D1 bud. You're Maf

I struggle to imagine why you care about that right now. There has been a whole game and I have made hundreds more posts (as you have mentioned repeatedly).

Why is that Day 1 post important to you? What do you even mean? I seriously don’t understand.

“Not sus, would vote” is basically just null/POE.

sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 6:55 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 6:55 pm Perhaps it's meaningful that falcon is the only player who has suspected me and never reconsidered.
You’re saying he’s right and you’re mafia?

I dunno what I'm saying.

If the mafia killed Scotty and Wilgy in part to make me look like a dope, perhaps he is sticking to the plan even as it fails.

Dunno.

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