The Syndicate

thellama73 wrote:doe snot

same

oops, i really couldnt check the thread. i did break a rule so i'm sorry about that. gl

young vomp
young jay
then young golden

i really have to go now BYE

i'm still not sure what the exact rules are but most of the game means ~70% of the game

ive had my lynch stop for most of the game now, i didnt purchase it. i dont think it would be the end of the world if i used it today, i like 2v1 more than 3v1 but thats just me. in any case this would only matter if there was no chance we could lynch the scum today, which i dont think is a position we are in.

i'm voting g-man now, not sure if i'll be back at all before the deadline but i'll try to check on the thread

G-Man wrote:

sorry chief, i make my own path

or something

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:looking into MP as either Adam Smith or Akerlof...

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MovingPictures07 wrote:On that note, I've said everything I need to for the Night, this time for certain.

Again, I understand how you feel, splints, I've been there when I've overextended myself and invested a lot into a game emotionally and time-wise; hell, I've done that this game.

I want you to know that I'm willing to take a step back and consider every possibility, even that you're a civilian, but at the moment, my rainbow reads as previously stated still stand.
MP's last post about splints on Night 3. it came at 2:53 pm EST. the night kill was revealed at 6:22 pm EST. the very next post after that reveal by any player was this:

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MovingPictures07 wrote:First off, WTF, a surprising NK indeed. RIP TinyBubbles, hope to get to play with you again soon.

Secondly, I've mulled over it, and I'm pretty sure I'm wrong about splints. Where does that leave us? I want to look at Roxy, but I don't know where to go thereafter. Discuss.

Be back later.
so it was definitely an extremely abrupt reversal. and MP is not easy to shake from his suspicions -- especially not without input from other people. left to his own thinking, i would never expect this. so i agree that it supports the notion of an investigative role. moreover:

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MovingPictures07 wrote:
Dragon D. Luffy wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:Seriously, everyone, G-Man is fucking faking this shit. Let's be honest here.

- If he were cursed, it's highly dubious that it would have taken effect as early as Day 1, before any night actions could be submitted. It also cannot be due to the D0 poll because literally NO ONE else has had this problem, and many others voted the same option as he did.
- There is no apparent role on either the civilian or mafia team that would have to be cursed as such.

If there even is an explanation otherwise that would cause him to be cursed for all 4 cycles, why not Day 0?

If there even is an explanation otherwise that jives with ALL OF THAT, then he would have broken or failed the curse EASILY with his most recent pictures interrogating DDL. I've never seen that unpunished from a host. If I were hosting, that would be a violation.

Therefore, G-Man does not have to post in all pictures.

He is therefore a mafia.
I have some guesses:

- He's Adam Smith, the invisible hand, which makes him unable to talk directly.
- He's the Ludwig guy who only talks in the night, so maybe he can't talk directly in the thread (though he's still posting pictures in the night so I dunno).
He is not Adam Smith. Even if he was, that would be a ridiculous posting restriction. He also posted during Day 0, which is key.
MP's only mention of Adam Smith after DDL's Bubbles theory was to say that someone else definitively is not him. so that's interesting too.

before that, MP carried on this discussion with splints and others about Adam Smith and the risks of outing that player in light of the stolen Malthus kill.

also of note was the Night 1 kill of Epignosis. Adam Smith used Elohcin's role on Epignosis -- and MP was quite vocally suspicious of both of them.

this is compelling stuff i admit. but it's also still conjecture and dangerous to rely upon too heavily. i'd invite the input of sanmateo here most of all, because he suspects splints more than anyone else.

i don't think he was adam smith because that would not really explain his reversal on fingersplints, i think him as akerlof is a valid theory tho. he did drop a few hints towards having a pr throughout dogpeegate.

i'm gonna vote in a couple hours, leaning heavily towards g-man now

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
this would be better answered by sanmateo himself. sanmateo: i saw you stop by the thread a few times without posting, but i don't remember exactly when that was. were you aware of the suspicions being voiced about you at the end of Day 6? and of DDL's willingness to town read you?

yes, i was aware i was likely going to be lynched today or at least it seemed that way at the end of night 6, ddl and you were the only ones who didnt call me scum at that point and yours was tongue-in-cheek or at least thats what i thought

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:it is WIFOM, but i don't care. it's content, and for 5 out of the 6 of us it'll be honest.

dont you find it odd that g-man would bring it up? imo it's basically a way to claim whatever townie cred you can while shifting the focus onto others

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
sanmateo wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
sanmateo wrote:whats your read on young vompatti? i've the feel he's town and i guess whoever john nash is did too but

i dont think i would vote for him over g-man or splints
when you speak his language he's usually a little more willing to interact. i like his pledge to vote G-Man into oblivion given the chance (as a town-tell for Vomps, not as a strategy). there's no way to have conviction about him, but i agree. i don't think i'll vote for him today. what makes you hesitant to vote him?
im having trouble answering this bc of the syndicate rules. it's nothing certain and it basically amounts to a hunch
understood.

what do you think of Golden?

his posts read the same way as town golden and a quick skim thru bwt's posts makes me trust him. he's my strongest town read.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
sanmateo wrote:top 3 reasons to not lynch me:

#1 - i'm town
please try harder. i might be willing to believe you, but nobody else here knows you at all. you gotta convince everyone.

i think this exercise is basically wifom, isnt it? idk

#1 - the whole case against me amounts to me not being in the right bandwagons, which is something scum can easily avoid. it's not like any of the players alive were integral parts of every single one of those.

#2 - i was right about elo and i pursued that lynch. all the scums we've caught distanced theirselves from it because being on the wrong side of a townie lynch on day 2 would mean you catch a lot attention early on.

#3 - i promise yall i'm starting to try again, and it would be better for town not to lynch me today as it would be a wasted day

#4 - i'm the underdog

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
sanmateo wrote:whats your read on young vompatti? i've the feel he's town and i guess whoever john nash is did too but

i dont think i would vote for him over g-man or splints
when you speak his language he's usually a little more willing to interact. i like his pledge to vote G-Man into oblivion given the chance (as a town-tell for Vomps, not as a strategy). there's no way to have conviction about him, but i agree. i don't think i'll vote for him today. what makes you hesitant to vote him?

im having trouble answering this bc of the syndicate rules. it's nothing certain and it basically amounts to a hunch

top 3 reasons to not lynch me:

#1 - i'm town

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
sanmateo wrote:if me and jay both make it to lylo i'm voting for him no matter what
good way to encourage that result.

thank you for the hard work on splints. i think you make plenty of valid points about her, and i am in general agreement. before the Bass lynch, her content is very easy to read in a bad light. her part in the Bass lynch is the best thing going for her -- but we should hesitate before we give too much credit for that. because Bass played a great role in the BR lynch.

i'm not inclined to vote for you sanmateo. if you're acting then bravo. much like the last game you modded on RYM, in this late game scenario under the current circumstances i don't really trust my own analysis anymore. i am going to respect my gut, and my gut is telling me you're town.

i don't quite have a ProFiction to go after this time though. i am also leaning toward a G-Man vote, but i can absolutely see it being splints.

whats your read on young vompatti? i've the feel he's town and i guess whoever john nash is did too but

i dont think i would vote for him over g-man or splints

if me and jay both make it to lylo i'm voting for him no matter what

i realize most of you have moved on to more elaborate ways of casing players but im a simple country boy so here is my limited edition fingersplints ISO, sorry if this is all stuff i already said on day 4

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fingersplints wrote:
Elohcin wrote:Anyway, I am leaning civ on Epi, Golden, MM, Splints, and Jimmy. I am not sure about San, Sloo, DDL, MP, and BR.
BR's defense of MP definitely caught my eye. Especially in a one mafia set up. If she was bad, I mean he could be a indy but she would know he was more likely to be good.

ftr the post she's referring to:

Black Rock wrote:
Elohcin wrote:I see that DDL thinks all those who've been posting tonight look like town. I disagree, but not only that, I highly doubt that none of the mafia are talking. I just can't see that being the case. Honestly, I see MP's over-helpful behavior as suspicious. I know we have a lot of new players and he wants to be helpful, but there's just something fishy about it.
I really don't see MP as being overly helpful. I see it more as him excited about the new players and helping them out. I would expect this behaviour from MP and I would expect you to see this as well.

this is the first time she mentioned black rock in what would be a constant "aggressive" tone between em thru the first days of the game

fingersplints wrote:First off, I did not "no u" BR as I made my suspicion first. After that she then said she was watching me. Not that she was suspicious. Just watching. How the fuck is that "100% no u"
Her response did not satisfy me because it was basically a play for emotion like when she said something about how she thought I would know her better. This is something I would expect of baddie BR. Plus I now think she didn't mean to defend MP, so said she didn't, and then now she did and is backtracking.

I'll comment to the rest of MPs post later but I'm voting him now.
this feigned indignition has become pretty standard for MP. I can't give him a free pass again for this

see this type of thing still bothers me, a lot of you seemed to move on but she really went after black rock and voted for someone else, something she did again on day 3. in day 2, the only time she voted for br, elohcin's lynch was basically already decided. it looks like bussing imo

fingersplints wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:5 votes for Golden? What the sodding hell?
You and bass have votes.

I'd love to hear Rox's opinion on Bass. She knows him well

first time she mentions roxy

fingersplints wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:Has anyone considered that G-Man is pulling a gambit, isn't actually cursed, and is skating by on Day 1?

Why did a couple of players automatically dismiss any future suspicion of him assuming he's cursed?
Nothing to find him suspicious of today and don't like to vote cursed players. He doesn't get a free pass the whole game though.

first interaction with notoriously elusive player g-man, not sure what to think of it but i think there's something significant here as she has indeed turned on him thru the last few phases, specially after dog pee gate. at least she has been consistent and #transparent with her interactions towards g-man thru the game

fingersplints wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
fingersplints wrote:Maybe I am a little bit clouded by my last experience with a civvie Elo in Roger Rabbit.
have you noticed similarities between the Elo of this game and the Elo of that game?
Yes. I feel like it is more similar to her most recent baddie game I can remember.
Also, I feel like I have suspected Elo a lot for bandwagoning. So while her vote is weird I am not sure that it is that weird for Elo. And I am a bit wary that no one so many people seem to be ok with lynching her.

linki @ Sloonei - Bass is Roxy's son, and that is why I asked her opinion of him earlier. She can read him very well, so if she says he is alright I believe it for now.

fingersplints wrote:Really? I guess I am reading her different then you guys. I feel like she is at least trying to address the suspicions

she really distanced herslef from the elo lynch, looking at that tally 2 of the 3 known scums did so too and bass only voted for elo when a few players had already said "well my vote doesnt matter at this point so im going to vote for this bandwagon", this is WIFOM but im not sure if scum would collectively decide for all of its members to vote away from a player they assume to be town

fingersplints wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:f but i can't help but be concerned about a player with one suspicious encounter early in the game and nothing else since other than a little detached commentary and off-topic posting.
I think she might be busy and bad.

idk if this post is serious but it is about br, odd thing to say

fingersplints wrote:
Dragon D. Luffy wrote:Imo we should estabilish a G-Man thereshold.

If you are posting less than G-Man, then your activity is not acceptable.

(just kidding, I know real life happens)
I think it's harder to post as we have. While Gman has to find pictures; A lot are repeat. If he is bad he doesn't have to really push for lynches, and he isn't under much scrutiny.

transparent

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 46#p144846

this is her responding to a sloonei case, i'm not really sure what to make of her theories about mp/br but it does seem to be an intricate way to establish br as her most suspected player while side-eyeing mp. not familiar with her meta and it may be down to that but this doesnt seem organic to me, there's a lot of discussion about g-man which idk what to make of either

one thing i dont like is that she ends her post by saying "idk u" when asked who is scum

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 51#p144851

fingersplints wrote:I was going to answer, but I'll let Rox take care of that one. Was it me that was answering for other people before? It probably was.

roxy and splints' interactions were like the polar opposite of roxy and br's. which is what i've come to expect from scum teams, where they bus one of their teammates while being cordial with another

fingersplints wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote: Thanks, sanmateo. I look forward to hearing your answers to other questions and what you think of others as well.

Sloonei, so I am looking through splints's posts again because I'm revisiting my suspicion of her, and I'm uncovering again that she's been issuing a lot of wishywashy statements and I did find it notable that she couldn't even name a top suspect when I asked her yesterday (but then went on to say she still really suspects BR). I'd like to amend my post to say that she might be my 3rd suspect (pushing her back up again), but I'm not certain just yet.
I think you should reconsider who you call wishy washy when you have been drastically up and down in your suspicions. You are pressuring me to name more suspicions. I have and if that isn't good enough for you so be it.

I suspect BR for the defense of MP. A bunch of you didn't suspect it because you trust MP and all suspect Elo, but I understood what she was saying about MP. She wasn't calling him "mean", and I felt she was trying to be tactful about it, but he exploded at Epi and played the victim. (His word choice. Not mine) I feel like BR jumped on that and defended MP. I have been wishy washy about MP because as I said I'm not going to waste a shit ton of time debating how I feel about a player when my read on them is pretty dependant on someone else.

I'm voting BR now.

idk if these votes are supposed to be misdirections or something, where you argue against a player and then you vote for someone else. BUT WAIT

fingersplints wrote:If he is bad, he could be avoiding casting a vote for Elo so it doesn't look bad if she flips civvie.

huh. this just seems dishonest, he mentioned her as his supect on day 1 but it's not like he was particularly pushing people to vote for elo at that point

fingersplints wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
fingersplints wrote:How long will this activity be? It's already 11 here

How many people missed the vote?
I also think that her team would be more likely to have distanced from her since she was so obviously going down.
She was the Serial Killer.

I only really know the two civvie role/abilities I have had.
so still good result just not the one I thought a few moments ago. I have to go figure out if it has been addressed if the kill goes to baddies

this is something

fingersplints wrote:You guys really think that both me and BR are bad?

How many baddies do you think there are MP?

wifom is an overused term but i think it fits right here

fingersplints wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
fingersplints wrote:My suspicion of aether has been growing. Like I said before I don't see how every role not being revealed is enough to want to quit a game when you guys have a role that hides role reveals. So that is a possibility. I also brought up earlier how I believe mafia likes to comment on roles and the like to seem to be contributing without really. So I think the second was more likely the intention, while pinpointing a valuable role would have been a nice side effect.
to be fair, the role you're referring to may have only appeared on RYM once or twice ever. it's not commonplace and i don't think i've ever played with one in a game myself. however, i highlighted the point in your quote that i think is most salient. i agree, and a parallel can be drawn that the RYMers might be more familiar with -- in our culture, this is usually expressed by fake-contributing mafia in the form of setup speculation (like guessing at how many scum there are, or what roles there might be, and how the game might be balanced), because on RYM we usually play in closed setups. so you're right to raise this point i think, fingersplints.
this is a reasonable explanation, but not one she provided. It feels like she ignored it hoping that suspicion would drop. (Another thing I associate as baddie behavior)

in hindsight (lame i kno) aether coming back after the death of the sk is understandable but i think the second post is definitely reaching at a time when aether's lynch was gaining traction, trying to add fire to that thru any means necessary is a scum-tell for me

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 03#p145803

this is a jay iso which she dismisses as being mostly wifom but she responds to it with more wifom specially when trying to explain why she would "bus" br

fingersplints wrote:Also, you accuse me of tunneling when most every suspicion of me has been about my suspicion of BR. If you can figure out a way for me to defend myself without mentioning her I will, but until then yea I am going to have to talk about it a lot. This little Day 1 suspicion probably would have died down, but BR's behaviour and a couple others defense of her make me feel more strongly then ever that I am right.

BR I hope you can at least appreciate it from that perspective.

i dont know why she says the little day 1 suspicion should've died down when she was still doing the things that pinged other people, tbh i still think they're valid. specially since she never voted for br when it mattered

fingersplints wrote:
Dragon D. Luffy wrote:Not anything particularly.

But since you're asking, is there anyone you're suspecting besides BR?
I voted for aether. I made you a list of most to least suspicious. A whole bunch in the middle I don't know if I could really justify why I ranked one higher then the other. just gut feels I guess

Black Rock
Acrosstheaether
birdwithteeth11
Turnip Head
MovingPictures07
TinyBubbles
sanmateo
Dragon D. Luffy
JaggedJimmyJay
G-Man
Bass_the_Clever
Vompatti
Roxy
fingersplints

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 52#p146152

this 2 posts bothered me a lot and are the main reason fingersplints is my main suspect, her reasoning never convinced me either- http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 01#p146201

fingersplints wrote:I'm not taking it personally. For example if you call me a liar I do not think you think I personally lie. Only that I am a liar within the game.
I am bothered at the implication that I am playing wrong as I have been feeling that all around this entire game, but that's all
I've been playing for enough years to know when I am fighting a losing battle. I have other games to play as well and this one is draining me too much. So I wanted you guys to know where to go when I am gone

she seemed to be the main suspect until this post, here and in a few previous posts she asks that people look at mp after she's lynched. it was real weird that both changed their mind as soon as day 4 started but seeing how mp was the first to do so, splints' whole caseon him reads as omgus, she later said this which is like, why
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 66#p146966

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 4#p146774- she believes g-man
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 88#p146888 - then she doesnt

fingersplints wrote:
I forgot/missed he replaced bwt. I never felt great about bwt, so I don't feel great about Golden 2.0

she never really mentioned bwt before this as far as i can tell

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 88#p146988 - i dont like nk speculation but i figure this might as well be worth pointing out, ddl was one of the few players to hold on to any suspicion of splints after day 3

fingersplints wrote:
I am wondering a bit why she wasn't more defensive of bass? If she was defensive of other civvies in thread (like me) then why didn't she defend him more when I gave her plenty of opportunity to.

this isnt something a scum would post imo, i hadnt seen it before and it makes me doubt it i was wrong all along and whether i just wasted a solid hour of my life

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 90#p148690 - i dont think i adressed this but g-man literally told me to vote bass, he even flipped me off!

what's left on her post history is the aether lynch which she really pursued, seems like town play tbh. i wish i could respond to whatever suspicions she has of me but i'm not sure what they are other than that last post i linked. i'm not sure what to think, her posts before day the bass lynch all read like scum and afterwards they all read like town, sigh

i'm leaning more towards g-man now. i'm not doing an iso outside rym ever again

lol jay must be dissapointed by being in day 7 with only me and vompatti to talk to

i'll do something now

ugh jay why do you want me to try? it only makes being wrong more embarrassing

gonna case them later today/early tomorrow

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
sanmateo wrote:i think we should lynch fingersplints
why?

she and g-man are the scummiest players imo, and fingersplints hasnt really faced a lynch yet

ftr i have a lynch stop which i'll probably use if i'm about to be lynched, i see why some people think im suss but we're 5 vs 1 and i'm a townie

i think we should lynch fingersplints

i think i figured out who has the game theory role

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
sanmateo wrote:why did you cange your mind tho?
because it might help motivate you to get back into sanmateo mode.

i bend the spoon with my mind

i like the sugarhill vibe rap #1 has

why did you cange your mind tho?

acrosstheaether wrote:Ok. Everyone post their favourite Eurovision entries for this year.

israel and serbia

also, bah.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Reasons why sanmateo is town:

~ i think he has mostly played to his town meta (acknowledging that he is still new enough to mafia to not have played as any other alignment often enough to have any established counter-meta).

Honestly that's it.

Reasons why sanmateo is mafia:

~ He has taken part in exactly zero mafia lynches. when BR was lynched, he missed the vote. when Roxy was lynched, he voted for aether. when Bass was lynched, he voted for G-Man.

~ He was vocally defensive of both Bass and Roxy when they were threatened with lynches, and later chalked it up to simply being wrong all game long. in one of my earliest mafia-aligned games, i employed that exact strategy -- intentionally be wrong in every read and see how long i can get away with it

~ I think his interactions with all three of the dead mafia players reflect poorly on him. My exact conclusions were: w/r/t BR, he looked barely okay (which was frankly too generous). w/r/t Roxy, he looked worse. w/r/t Bass, he looked so bad it's extreme WIFOM.

idk how i'm supposed to defend myself from this case without doing a pile of wifom. but ftr this is the worst game i've played. i haven't been right since like day 2, i dont even wanna keep coming back and checking the thread at this point

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:sanmateo has been as mafia-like as anyone since about Day 2.

yeah i've sucked this game

did aether tried to switch the lynch to me? i'm offended

*votes*

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:i get the feeling many players will be content to walk right into Day 6 and drop a vote on G-Man. i don't really oppose that lynch, but i do think we should be voicing our backup plans. how will everyone respond in the event of a G-Man town flip? does anyone think we should lynch someone else?

i'll do my typical analyses and see how i feel.

i was thinking of dropping a vote on acrosstheaether

lmao @ me not being right once in this game

day 5: memes rule everything around me

G-Man wrote:
sanmateo wrote:tfw you wake up and the lynch is decided already.

honestly it doesnt matter, the people who voted for bass are as likely to have extra votes as the people who voted for g-man. gonna vote g-man because i dont think bass is scum, if the lynch is tied we can just assume 2 of the 4 who voted g-man (assuming bass votes g-man) are scum

calling the scum team as fingersplints and g-man rn. i dont feel like voting for bass after being told to do so and when i think he's town

tfw you wake up and the lynch is decided already.

i'm not sold on bass being scum but i've read nothing since my last post + i have not been right once so far in this game so

i'll try to vote tomorrow but rn my spiritual vote is with g-man and id prefer it if u all didnt cast 12 thousand votes while i sleep

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:G-Man how can you live with yourself after numerous cold-blooded murders?

u channeling rdw now?

one thing that is bugging me is that mp was the main person who suspected fingersplints during the end of day 3/night 3 and as day 4 came around he dropped that case and then he died, although i think he hinted at having an important role in the middle of his breakdown about g-man. idk if i'm explaining myself correctly or if it even makes sense, tbh i still think fingersplints is suss bc of that non-vote for br

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:sanmateo, i've noticed that your name has been coming up more lately but you haven't really acknowledged that. any thoughts on people suspecting you a bit more? On the mild controversy over how you wanted to vote on Day 3?

i understand why people suspect me for "defending" roxy but idk what to say about that. it's not really like she said "i give up, i'm scum" like profic did in the end of the last game i modded. i still think she should've asked for a replacement tho. as far as my day 3 vote goes idk what there is to say even, i'm pretty sure i told yall i was gonna hold on to it til the very end before any votes were cast. i missed the deadline cuz i'm dumb

G-Man wrote:
Spoiler: show

everytime g-man actually talks he looks worse

Dragon D. Luffy wrote:I went to do some reads on the suspects and something is bugging me:

acrosstheaether wrote:...but isn't solo in the context of teamwork as well? No mafia player is an island. You can't sever the individual from the wider societ- oh wait, this is getting into Radical Marxist Political Terroritory, no? G-Man obviously isn't a radical leftist, he's a neoliberal like the rest of us save two or three, everyone chill.

acrosstheaether wrote:It's funny how in this game my side is the direct opposite of my political ideology IRL.
This is a personal question so you don't have to answer if you don't to aether, but... what is your political ideology IRL? Left or right?

Because in one post you're implying you're a neoliberal, and in the other one you're saying your in-game alignment is opposite to your RL one. If both posts are true, then you're more or less admitting you're mafia.

I know this is probably kind of silly since mafia wouln't normally slip like that, but could you answer this?

Thanks, and again, sorry if the question is too personal.

idk exactly but i think irl she's somewhere in the far-left, that first post was Snark. she wouldnt have slipped like that at all lol

acrosstheaether wrote:I have a hard time envisioning Bass as mafia, but it isn't impossible. Between Bass and G-Man I'd have to say G-Man, but my view might change if even more solid points against Bass come up.

aka i'm gonna vote for the first bandwagon that forms

Russtifinko wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
sanmateo wrote:i'm sorry how is "i thought it would look more suspicious" a valid defense?

Dragon D. Luffy wrote:
sanmateo wrote:can we talk about night actions that aren't inherent to our role?
Probably not. But I'll go ahead and ask a similar question:

Can we talk about night action stuff when we were in the receiving end of them?
yeah someone answer this
Russ should really be the one answering this. He is extremely anti-infodumping. My answer is that you should be careful. Being too explicit about what powers have been used on you is usually a good way to get killed, even if it doesn't technically break any rules.
Yeah, as llama predicted, I am against people talking about what Night powers were used on them. Sorry I didn't see your question sooner.

dw, thanks modpeople

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
G-Man wrote:
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i can't deny that this point is solid. the obvious danger is that if G-Man is mafia and teamed with a non-obvious player, the extra day alive allowed by the Bass lynch could put them over the top. that's why the point is solid though -- it seems to demand that a dissenter put on the tinfoil hat.

i think the one rymafia export no one needs is "informative" lynching

i'm sorry how is "i thought it would look more suspicious" a valid defense?

Dragon D. Luffy wrote:
sanmateo wrote:can we talk about night actions that aren't inherent to our role?
Probably not. But I'll go ahead and ask a similar question:

Can we talk about night action stuff when we were in the receiving end of them?

yeah someone answer this

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lynch or lose- as in there's 3 town players vs 2 mafia players

can we talk about night actions that aren't inherent to our role?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: san's is outright defending Roxy at this point, suggesting she should be replaced instead. this would have given a mafia player another day to live, which can make a crippling difference. san's vote for aether was the first for her, and it came when Roxy had already amassed 6 votes. in that light his vote could be called pointless, but also a curious strategy if he is mafia -- Roxy was clearly getting lynched so why not just pile on? maybe he felt being the 7th vote would be overkill and look worse than a separate vote for the suspect he's carried the whole game.

seeing how 3 more people came in afterwards to be EXTRA-sure that roxy would be lynched, i dont think throwing my vote there would've looked particularly suspicious. imo the scum is among the people who didnt say she was suss and voted for her when she admitted defeat (ddl, acrosstheaether, i think g-man?). i still think she should've been replaced if she really didnt want to play.

acrosstheaether wrote:It would also be interesting to see who has been suspiciously defensive of Roxy. The nightkill is the mafia's most beneficial weapon, surely they would do anything to keep the role that allows for that.

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