The Syndicate

I did provide arguments in favor of voting pyxxy too. I was less vocal about it, but it’s also false to say I contributed with only my vote.

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 3:59 am Point though is this. I think your discrediting me is wolfy.

That is not at all what this is, and I think you should take a step back. I do not wish to discredit you. I found the strength with which you asserted your own role in the Day 1 proceedings to be mildly alarming. To me, it looks as though you are possibly making a concerted effort to present yourself as a town hero and the singular reason why a mafia member was eliminated on Day 1. Bussing is a thing, and only works when players are awarded town credit for their votes. My concern is that you, as a landlord, are opportunistically inflating your own town credit for something that half the players here did not see happen.

This does not need to be the case. It is entirely possible, and fairly believable, that you simply put a lot of work into your pyxxy case and feel as though you needed to drag other people kicking and screaming to the same conclusion. I did not see it that way, but I did not have the same level of emotional investment as you would have.

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 3:54 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 3:53 am
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 3:45 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 3:44 am
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 3:21 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 3:18 am
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 3:16 am

Let's be real I was the only one who actually pushed pyxxy and I basically had to beg you people to keep votes on at EoD.

And than Caitlin for N1d and not me and I'm still pissed about that
This is not how I remember it.
Than you remember it wrong
You portray it as though you were the singular driving force behind pyxxy’s elimination. You were not. You played a role. But I feel as though you are assigning yourself more credit than is due.
I. Literally. Was.

So why are you discrediting me?

Vote: Sloonei

This is not towny
You can have credit. But you’re also discrediting other people who contributed to pyxxy’s elimination. I find that concerning, speaking as a towny.

Also we’re not supposed to copy and paste from the other thread.
Go find me any other post contributing to pyxxys death in any meaningful way at EoD especially when the cfd was happening

Right fucking now

My own posts and my own vote for pyxxy, for one. Nothing that you said had any influence on my vote. I don’t say that to be dismissive lt discrediting, it’s simply the truth. I think you are either trying to claim more credit than is due, or you are simply overestimating the role you played. I do not intend for any of this to be hostile against you. I’m just trying to accurately portray things for those who were not there. You were an important part of pushing pyxxy over the edge. I don’t want others to get the impression that you were singularly responsible.

Also let me stress again that we are not supposed to quote from the other thread.

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 3:45 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 3:44 am
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 3:21 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 3:18 am
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 3:16 am
leetic wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 12:24 am
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 12:19 am

It kinda sounds like pyxxy was very alone in the thread.
nobody was townreading Lime Coke either in our thread, but there were at least one or two folks who felt that lunching him for lowposting wasn't the best choice.
I heard about the multiball theory being floated in your thread; do you think that's more likely than pyxxy being bussed or ignored by a partner?
While it is true that there wasn't anybody really defending pyxxy (besides Delta maybe?) the pushers of pyxxy weren't really that forceful either? For most of the phase, the only pushers were Abby, Epi (who basically mentioned them offhandedly after I asked them who they would be okay with dying) and Sloonei (who was only there because Epi was, and not because they voiced a strong suspicion of pyxxy themselves) (and Scrappy I guess). pyxxy only really went down after he was flailing at EoD. So I think it is likely that his partners ignored him for most of the phase, but may have bussed him at EoD (but I'm not 100% certain on that part).
Let's be real I was the only one who actually pushed pyxxy and I basically had to beg you people to keep votes on at EoD.

And than Caitlin for N1d and not me and I'm still pissed about that
This is not how I remember it.
Than you remember it wrong
You portray it as though you were the singular driving force behind pyxxy’s elimination. You were not. You played a role. But I feel as though you are assigning yourself more credit than is due.
I. Literally. Was.

So why are you discrediting me?

Vote: Sloonei

This is not towny

You can have credit. But you’re also discrediting other people who contributed to pyxxy’s elimination. I find that concerning, speaking as a towny.

Also we’re not supposed to copy and paste from the other thread.

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 3:21 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 3:18 am
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 3:16 am
leetic wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 12:24 am
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 12:19 am
leetic wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 12:12 am A brief summary of everyone's pyxxy interactions for y'all in the other thread:

Delta: Prodded pyxxy to contribute more a couple of times, never really pushed them hard. At EoD, was more concerned about their wagon than pyxxy's.
Epignosis: One of the earlier voters on pyxxy, but only really had three real interactions with them.
falcon: Only player (besides 1-poster Spacedaisy) to never interact with pyxxy at all.
LC: Voted pyxxy last-minute; had no strong pyxxy interactions before then.
Abby: One of the earlier and more steadfast pyxxy voters.
Ricochet: Talked about pyxxy a couple times but never really established them as a suspicion.
Scrappy: Had pyxxy as their alleged biggest suspect (without much elaboration) only to switch to tunneling me by EoD.
sig: Voted pyxxy last-minute without ever interacting with them beforehand.
Sloonei: Originally voted pyxxy just to follow Epi without expressing a real read on them. Eventually just voted pyxxy because they were the "best" option
TSP: Only a couple of barely notable pyxxy mentions. Had the opportunity to switch their vote to pyxxy at EoD but didn't.
It kinda sounds like pyxxy was very alone in the thread.
nobody was townreading Lime Coke either in our thread, but there were at least one or two folks who felt that lunching him for lowposting wasn't the best choice.
I heard about the multiball theory being floated in your thread; do you think that's more likely than pyxxy being bussed or ignored by a partner?
While it is true that there wasn't anybody really defending pyxxy (besides Delta maybe?) the pushers of pyxxy weren't really that forceful either? For most of the phase, the only pushers were Abby, Epi (who basically mentioned them offhandedly after I asked them who they would be okay with dying) and Sloonei (who was only there because Epi was, and not because they voiced a strong suspicion of pyxxy themselves) (and Scrappy I guess). pyxxy only really went down after he was flailing at EoD. So I think it is likely that his partners ignored him for most of the phase, but may have bussed him at EoD (but I'm not 100% certain on that part).
Let's be real I was the only one who actually pushed pyxxy and I basically had to beg you people to keep votes on at EoD.

And than Caitlin for N1d and not me and I'm still pissed about that
This is not how I remember it.
Than you remember it wrong

You portray it as though you were the singular driving force behind pyxxy’s elimination. You were not. You played a role. But I feel as though you are assigning yourself more credit than is due.

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 3:16 am
leetic wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 12:24 am
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 12:19 am
leetic wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 12:12 am A brief summary of everyone's pyxxy interactions for y'all in the other thread:

Delta: Prodded pyxxy to contribute more a couple of times, never really pushed them hard. At EoD, was more concerned about their wagon than pyxxy's.
Epignosis: One of the earlier voters on pyxxy, but only really had three real interactions with them.
falcon: Only player (besides 1-poster Spacedaisy) to never interact with pyxxy at all.
LC: Voted pyxxy last-minute; had no strong pyxxy interactions before then.
Abby: One of the earlier and more steadfast pyxxy voters.
Ricochet: Talked about pyxxy a couple times but never really established them as a suspicion.
Scrappy: Had pyxxy as their alleged biggest suspect (without much elaboration) only to switch to tunneling me by EoD.
sig: Voted pyxxy last-minute without ever interacting with them beforehand.
Sloonei: Originally voted pyxxy just to follow Epi without expressing a real read on them. Eventually just voted pyxxy because they were the "best" option
TSP: Only a couple of barely notable pyxxy mentions. Had the opportunity to switch their vote to pyxxy at EoD but didn't.
It kinda sounds like pyxxy was very alone in the thread.
nobody was townreading Lime Coke either in our thread, but there were at least one or two folks who felt that lunching him for lowposting wasn't the best choice.
I heard about the multiball theory being floated in your thread; do you think that's more likely than pyxxy being bussed or ignored by a partner?
While it is true that there wasn't anybody really defending pyxxy (besides Delta maybe?) the pushers of pyxxy weren't really that forceful either? For most of the phase, the only pushers were Abby, Epi (who basically mentioned them offhandedly after I asked them who they would be okay with dying) and Sloonei (who was only there because Epi was, and not because they voiced a strong suspicion of pyxxy themselves) (and Scrappy I guess). pyxxy only really went down after he was flailing at EoD. So I think it is likely that his partners ignored him for most of the phase, but may have bussed him at EoD (but I'm not 100% certain on that part).
Let's be real I was the only one who actually pushed pyxxy and I basically had to beg you people to keep votes on at EoD.

And than Caitlin for N1d and not me and I'm still pissed about that

This is not how I remember it.

I often like to simply state a suspicion (or leave a vote) without substantiating it when I'm not sure of things. Seeing who picks it up, and how people react, to a blank suspicion can be more informative than dumping a not-fully-formed idea into the thread. Sometimes.

I did the same thing on Day 1 when I voted for Delta.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 1:17 am "I have a vague and not-well-defined suspicion of Falcon." - Sloonei a few hours ago.

"Go remedy that." - Me

"I feel no urgency to do these things right now." - Sloonei now.

I'm content to continue observing the falcon in its natural habitat for now.

Although I did do my best to define the suspicion a few posts back yonder.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 1:10 am This is what I'm talking about. Why not ask falcon questions? Why not mention falcon? Why not summon his winged ass in here?

I feel no urgency to do these things right now.

The last game I played with Falcon, he was very aggressive right off the bat. He was picking fights and twisting words in a way that looked like he was trying to generate reads by putting pressure on everyone and everything. Others suspected him for it, but I defended him, saying he looked like a version of town falcon I'd seen before. Eventually his contributions dropped off, and he flipped mafia.

He looked very similar on Day 1 in the other thread. I do not feel like I have seen his reads progress in a meaningful way since then.

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 12:58 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 12:53 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 12:51 am How about this?

Among those who have 10 or more posts in this thread right now, whom do you suspect the most?

I say Sloonei.
leetic
scumread, or only because you had to name someone?

the latter

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 12:51 am How about this?

Among those who have 10 or more posts in this thread right now, whom do you suspect the most?

I say Sloonei.

leetic

Pyxxy was more of a process of elimination vote than somebody who was "caught". At least, that's how it felt to me. Leetic is correct that I initially voted pyxxy as a way to draw attention to Epi's stated suspicion. But by the end of Day 1, every other potential suspect had simply done more to dissuade me from voting them than pyxxy had.

[VOTE: lemonfairy] aubergine

In an atmosphere of groovy solving energy, these posts stick out:

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 10:50 pmfirst

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 10:51 pm actually, I'll come back tomorrow

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 10:52 pm it's nice to have everyone in one thread again but at the same time, it feels so disorienting and I can't remember half of you

Bold, half-baked take: the content in this thread so far has come overwhelmingly from town voices.

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 11:51 pm Sabi kept pushing
that there was a difference check
in Dizzy/Radish

I think Dizzy's town
and lightly townlean Radish
Sabi's full of it

What can you tell us about your Dizzy and Radish reads?

I floated a theory that pyxxy was alone in our thread because he looked deflated as soon as pressure started building against him. This would hinge on the game being multiball, and even then it would not need to be true. But it is a possibility that I want to at least keep in the back of our minds.

I had a vaguely favorable impression of Scrappy's posts on Day 1, and I also just recalled another point in their favor: one of the few game-related topics that pyxxy focused on was an attempt to solve Scrappy's identity.

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 11:38 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 11:31 pm How do you guys feel about that Davos pirate guy?
he just made pirate noises twice, never put his vote in the thread, but voted in the poll on both days
idek if his vote counted. there was a theory floated in our thread that perhaps the puppet accounts were people from opposite threads who had observation skills, since you must've had Scrappy if we had Davos, but this was never proven because Davos just didn't say much.

Scrappy was a fairly regular contributor on Day 1, but had little to say on Day 2.

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 10:20 pm I am curious
to hear the case on Delta
that has been mentioned

Curious that sig
and falcon are both suspects;
had early good vibes

It would be difficult to convey the Delta case here because it hinged almost entirely on interactions with pyxxy, and we can’t copy text from the other thread.

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 10:17 pm Seanziei was clear to tell us all about his message on the other side, but who knows?

This is the name of my hydra with Seanzie.

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 9:36 pm oh yeah, maybe this was already mentioned but how many kills did you guys have on N1? East Facility had 2 deaths.

Just one (Caitlin). But Daisy was killed shortly after the start of Day 2. My guess is a slank vig did it. She had 1 post.

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 9:12 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 9:10 pm
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 9:09 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 8:57 pm
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 8:56 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 8:53 pm Given the fact that it's 30 players, and two old-school hosts, and that previous Champs games have been multiball, I would bet money on it.
Ah ok, I haven't played one of these before. But that explains why Guillo said this forum was fond of multiball lol

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 8:54 pm
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 8:52 pm

I can recheck the East thread if you're curious but I don't remember much discussion about it. I think there were 4 people who sent gifts to your thread.
leetic sent one to Lime Coke.
that's... interesting
given that Lime Coke was scum
You know, I thought so...? But no one in our Facility seemed to care that much.
wait, you guys knew we lunched him on D1? because we weren't told anything about your thread.
seanzie received word about what was going on in your thread.
was it like a one-time thing? just curious because if he sent any info back to us, it wasn't shared in the thread by whoever his correspondent might've been.

It seems to have been a limited-time and one-way thing. I do not believe he was able to message them back.

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 9:09 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 8:57 pm
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 8:56 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 8:53 pm Given the fact that it's 30 players, and two old-school hosts, and that previous Champs games have been multiball, I would bet money on it.
Ah ok, I haven't played one of these before. But that explains why Guillo said this forum was fond of multiball lol

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 8:54 pm
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 8:52 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 8:51 pm Did you guys keep track of who sent who Secret Santa stuff? Any discussion on that front?
I can recheck the East thread if you're curious but I don't remember much discussion about it. I think there were 4 people who sent gifts to your thread.
leetic sent one to Lime Coke.
that's... interesting
given that Lime Coke was scum
You know, I thought so...? But no one in our Facility seemed to care that much.
wait, you guys knew we lunched him on D1? because we weren't told anything about your thread.

seanzie received word about what was going on in your thread.

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 8:57 pm
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 8:56 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 8:53 pm Given the fact that it's 30 players, and two old-school hosts, and that previous Champs games have been multiball, I would bet money on it.
Ah ok, I haven't played one of these before. But that explains why Guillo said this forum was fond of multiball lol

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 8:54 pm
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 8:52 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 8:51 pm Did you guys keep track of who sent who Secret Santa stuff? Any discussion on that front?
I can recheck the East thread if you're curious but I don't remember much discussion about it. I think there were 4 people who sent gifts to your thread.
leetic sent one to Lime Coke.
that's... interesting
given that Lime Coke was scum
You know, I thought so...? But no one in our Facility seemed to care that much.

I genuinely did not even notice.

@leetic Mind explaining for the entire class you selected Lime Coke as your gift recipient?

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 8:53 pm Given the fact that it's 30 players, and two old-school hosts, and that previous Champs games have been multiball, I would bet money on it.

We seem to have had a higher concentration of Old Farts in our thread, so I guess it makes sense that we'd be more vocal about multiball.

I missed the entire second half of Day 2, but during the first half of the phase Epi put forward a decent argument for Delta to be teamed with pyxxy (and I guess Lime Coke).

I have a vague and not-well-defined suspicion of Falcon.

Now that we're all in the same room, should we compare notes about whether or not this game might be multiball?

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