The Syndicate

@ the people who have been doing the Good Work sifting through ISOs today:

Which players are definitely not Landlords?
Which players are definitely not Arbiters of the Rose Empire?

Mafiers don't always treat all of their teammates exactly the same. It would be strange and counterproductive if they did.

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2024 2:40 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2024 2:38 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2024 2:36 am

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2024 2:28 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2024 2:26 am [VOTE: darlingmonroe] aubergine

Do you think they're falcon's teammate or Abby's?

I haven't looked into it. If I have to guess, I'd say they're a landlord.

I still believe in Epi's belief that Monroe is mafia.

If Epi is mafia, he is teamed with falcon.

If Epi is then also correct about Monroe, they are not on the same team.

How would you explain Abby's differing treatment of pyxxy and DM in that world?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2024 2:36 am

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2024 2:28 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2024 2:26 am [VOTE: darlingmonroe] aubergine

Do you think they're falcon's teammate or Abby's?

I haven't looked into it. If I have to guess, I'd say they're a landlord.

I still believe in Epi's belief that Monroe is mafia.

If Epi is mafia, he is teamed with falcon.

If Epi is then also correct about Monroe, they are not on the same team.

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2024 2:28 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2024 2:26 am [VOTE: darlingmonroe] aubergine

Do you think they're falcon's teammate or Abby's?

I haven't looked into it. If I have to guess, I'd say they're a landlord.

I'm not actually interested in pushing Epi today. But I want the theory that he is falcon's teammate to remain on the record.

Day, fay. Same thing.

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2024 9:40 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2024 9:18 pm [VOTE: epignosis] aubergine

He’s falcon’s teammate.

Bold. Back it up!

Epi historically dislikes and avoid bussing. Epi had a wonky argument that he used to defend falcon throughout the fay yesterday.

[VOTE: epignosis] aubergine

He’s falcon’s teammate.

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 7:52 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 7:50 pm

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 7:49 pm OK, but do I really want to be on the same wagon as Sloonei?

Hmmmm

You said they seem alright, so I don't see what's the issue

I just feel a bit petty about them.

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 7:49 pm OK, but do I really want to be on the same wagon as Sloonei?

Hmmmm

You did just say I’m “kind of alright.” Why the hesitation?

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 5:27 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 5:22 pm

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 5:20 pm are my votes because inactivity?

sort of, yes. I'd like
answers to more stuff from you.
Like the "delta ping"

the delta ping came from this Epi post:

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 1:42 am One thing about Delta.

Delta has 900 people on the good list.

only mafia/wolves can confidently clear so many town easily... that's also why Lime Coke gave himself away with the town list he did

I disagree with this premise.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:18 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 3:06 pm @Epignosis @DarlingMonroe What's your beef?

I think DarlingMonroe is mafia.

That's it.

What can I say? I just found this post to be very convincing.

leetic wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 3:31 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 3:30 pm [VOTE: darlingmonroe] aubergine

I again will not be around for EoD, but this is my preferred wagon at the moment. Epi’s confidence, and Monroe’s complete lack of pep and/or verve, with a particularly unconvincing response to pressure, make me want to push this button.

I still am not convinced that Lemonfairy or falcon are town either. But Monroe feels like a better choice right now.

Interesting that this is the second time your vote is entirely because of Epi

And I object to this word. In both instances.

leetic wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 3:31 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 3:30 pm [VOTE: darlingmonroe] aubergine

I again will not be around for EoD, but this is my preferred wagon at the moment. Epi’s confidence, and Monroe’s complete lack of pep and/or verve, with a particularly unconvincing response to pressure, make me want to push this button.

I still am not convinced that Lemonfairy or falcon are town either. But Monroe feels like a better choice right now.

Interesting that this is the second time your vote is entirely because of Epi

I trust his reads.

[VOTE: darlingmonroe] aubergine

I again will not be around for EoD, but this is my preferred wagon at the moment. Epi’s confidence, and Monroe’s complete lack of pep and/or verve, with a particularly unconvincing response to pressure, make me want to push this button.

I still am not convinced that Lemonfairy or falcon are town either. But Monroe feels like a better choice right now.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 1:51 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 1:49 pm

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 1:16 pm
youre not very fun to play with... and your reads have always been awful

I made a nearly identical post to Epi's immediately before he posted it. Do you have anything to say about that?

I do.

youre not very fun to play with... and your reads have always been awful

Fair assessment

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 1:16 pm
youre not very fun to play with... and your reads have always been awful

I made a nearly identical post to Epi's immediately before he posted it. Do you have anything to say about that?

Cape90 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 3:32 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 11:14 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 11:08 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 10:33 pmInstead, falcon is behaving in a reactive manner that I think gives an indication that for him isn't mafia-oriented.

What makes you think that?

He's making a claim that obviously isn't true. Nobody is going to buy it. Nobody is buying it.

I think falcon is streetwise enough to know that he's got to get something going to stay alive when he's got this many votes.

Calling you and me his only civilians isn't going to get the job done.

All this you/falcon talk is kinda screaming w/w to me

Epi does not like to bus, so maybe there could be something to this theory. HOWEVER, Epi was also one of the first to push against pyxxy on Day 1, so I do not think he would be a landlord.

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 12:54 am Windward is probably the only person, out of everyone on that wagon, who has actually tried to interact with me.

Objection, your honor.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:05 pm @Lemonfairy for when you return to the thread: I see very few reads in any of your posts. Your focus in this thread has primarily been on your early voters, sans me. I would like to know how you feel about various other people in this game, even if you are just rehashing points from your old thread.

I appreciate that you gave a few reads on non-wagoners. But you have yet to comment on any of us west-siders. It'd be cool to see you engage with some of us, even if you're not comfortable committing to full-fledged reads yet.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 1:23 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 1:12 am to be fair, i didn't actually play philosophy 2 and i'm pretty sure that was the game that made me realize i should slink away into semi-retirement.

Shit, did I say "to be fair" because I just read it?

i'm a trailblazer and an icon.

to be fair, i didn't actually play philosophy 2 and i'm pretty sure that was the game that made me realize i should slink away into semi-retirement.

I could vote for DarlingMonroe or Lemonfairy.

leetic wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 11:35 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 11:32 pm I've never had any clue how to read nanook.

I mean, my one prior game with t!NANOOK had them postcapping early and getting killed N1 and my one prior game with w!NANOOK had them slanking to the end. Their energy here is much more reminiscent of the latter "performance", but my perspective may be skewed.

every nanook i have ever seen has been of the "appearing to slank but keeping up to date on the pulse of the thread enough to make important decisions when it matters" variety. I would say the dichotomy you've experienced has been an anomaly. Unless Nanook has had a sharp change in his meta over the last year or two.

I've never had any clue how to read nanook.

Linki, am i rite

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 4:31 am Epi is giving very much wolf. Delta also pings. Not sure how to feel about this lemon wagon. I'd rather no.

Could be down to vote Epi, though. Oh and Wilgy too.

Let's talk about this post and all of its discrete parts. First is a "very much wolf" read on Epi. Why? Evidently, because Epi cast a naked vote on Monroe (at least I presume so). There is no further engagement of anything that Epi has done, and Epi has done a lot of things. This is not a rousing response to Epi's vote.

Next is a (presumably) softer scum read on Delta. Why? Because... I don't know. Delta and Monroe have not shared a thread since Night 0. Below is a complete recounting of everything that Delta had said in this thread at the time of this post from DarlingMonroe: Delta did make some posts in the Night 0 thread, sure. If Monroe wants to show me the pings from Delta's Night 0 ISO, I would welcome it.

Following that is a vague dismissal of the lemon wagon. Why? I am, again, at a loss.

We end on a re-affirmation that Epi is suspicious because Epi voted for Monroe. Oh and Wilgy too. Why? I don't know.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 9:41 pm There's min 2 wolves on my wagon IMO, and it's between leetic/sig & MR/Abi

Apologies if you're all town, but I highly doubt it

We have nearly 24 hours remaining in the day and you are not singularly in the lead in the poll. If you are town, I feel like you are getting bogged down by your defensive reflexes right now. It is understandable to want to combat people for suspecting you, and it is definitely good to put some energy into that.

But if you really want to relinquish your ass through town efforts, I’m going to need to see other things from you. Let’s talk about players that are not voting for you. And/or, let’s talk about players from the other facility. What impressions do you have of out eastside companions so far?

Cape90 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 9:01 pm

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 12:12 pm side note, I also agree with whoever proposed we each vote for the scummiest within each facility to make w/w wagons
I think each side has better reads on their own facility than the other and even if we paraphrase, a lot of context can get lost

while we did have N0, it almost feels like I should start over with reads on the West
maybe have 2 separate reads list and then combine them together later

i immediately see this and really question if pushing Lemonfairy is actually a good idea like this just buries lemon more I think, esp when i scroll up and see a bunch of votes on them already

i'm not sure I follow your thought process here.

I’ve consistently felt at ease with Epi’s presence in all game threads.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:26 pm all of the people who claim to be good at reading falcon, dead and alive, think falcon is town

These people could all be overestimating their own abilities.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:10 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:09 pm There's no way to see the other thread?

Forever off-limits.

I can see it just fine, actually.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:07 pm Nice to see you again, Sloonmeister ^^

Hello Dizzy Lexicon

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:03 pm What are the West Facility's feelings on Delta?

Somewhat split. It’s been mentioned briefly here, but Epi made an argument for Delta to be teamed with pyxxy. Leetic refuted this case in his own analysis, though. So there is debate among scholars.

@Lemonfairy for when you return to the thread: I see very few reads in any of your posts. Your focus in this thread has primarily been on your early voters, sans me. I would like to know how you feel about various other people in this game, even if you are just rehashing points from your old thread.

I kinda just feel like TSP is town, ya know?

At least not a well-formed and widely established one. Individual people might had their own sense of a town core.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:32 pm Question, was there a perceived town core from the other thread?

Not really.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:02 pm My mom still thinks I'm cool

Does your mom have any strong town reads in this game right now? Or you?

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 5:35 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 5:29 pm

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 5:23 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 5:21 pm

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 5:18 pm I was just about to do my town core post and...I find myself struggling for town core reads

Falcons dropped out of my old list and only WWA has really joined it

Why did falcon drop off?

Caitlin + doing nothing yesterday after Caitlin his main pusher died but mostly Caitlin

Do you have any strong feelings about his actual posts?

What feelings would I have? They are mostly nothing burger since d1 but d1 I thought was towny

Fits the motif of someone who dropped off cause their team got slaughtered early

These are feelings.

I’m still unsure if I buy into the theory that remaining landlords would drop off after Day 1. I think it’s more likely if we’re in a multiball scenario. But if they’re the only mafia team, losing two players right off the bat is less than ideal, but hardly game-ending.

@Master Radishes talk to me about lemonfairy and their five votes.

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 5:23 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 5:21 pm

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 5:18 pm I was just about to do my town core post and...I find myself struggling for town core reads

Falcons dropped out of my old list and only WWA has really joined it

Why did falcon drop off?

Caitlin + doing nothing yesterday after Caitlin his main pusher died but mostly Caitlin

Do you have any strong feelings about his actual posts?

Perhaps we could assign somebody to be in charge of pep, and another to take over the verve.

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 5:18 pm I was just about to do my town core post and...I find myself struggling for town core reads

Falcons dropped out of my old list and only WWA has really joined it

Why did falcon drop off?

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 5:18 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 5:16 pm Is anyone here? Hello?

Hello!

Greetings Mr. Radish! How do you think this thread is doing so far? We on the right track? Descending into chaos? Somewhere in between?

Is anyone here? Hello?

I don’t subscribe to the philosophy that we should all vote for players from our own facility today. We should all work hard to develop reads on as many players as we can. I would even argue it’s more productive if we all focus more on players from other facilities. But in reality we should probably just give everybody equal attention and vote for the player that is most likely to flip mafia.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 11:29 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 1:10 am The last game I played with Falcon, he was very aggressive right off the bat. He was picking fights and twisting words in a way that looked like he was trying to generate reads by putting pressure on everyone and everything. Others suspected him for it, but I defended him, saying he looked like a version of town falcon I'd seen before. Eventually his contributions dropped off, and he flipped mafia.

He looked very similar on Day 1 in the other thread. I do not feel like I have seen his reads progress in a meaningful way since then.

Ya know, I'm only an @ away





Do you feel my reads not progressing the way you feel they should, vs my posting & contributions disappearing, are the same thing?

I have no questions or things for you to address. As I said to Epi last night, I’m content to let you continue doing what you do. My read will progress one way or another on its own.

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 4:31 am Epi is giving very much wolf. Delta also pings. Not sure how to feel about this lemon wagon. I'd rather no.

Could be down to vote Epi, though. Oh and Wilgy too.

Does Epi ping you for any reason other than his vote?

Why is Delta also a suspect? I feel I must point out that they also have not posted yet.