The Syndicate

Scotty wrote:

Sloonei wrote:

Scotty wrote:

Sloonei wrote:I went with Jan and leetic. I remember Jan making a few posts that kinda set off some minor alarms earlier in the game, and leetic seems to have disappeared from The Syndicate entirely so there's no harm in voting there.

Hopefully we'll get this down to the point where I'm the only inactive left.

In day 1 and 2? I thought you didn't read days 1 and 2?

And are you hoping you're the only inactive because you know you will be on the chopping block?

You're also hardly inactive Sloon-you're present and pushing forth discussion- you're just not as active as we know you have been in the past.

People were talking about Jan when I came in. I've reads bits and pieces of the earlier days, but not the entire thing.

I'm hoping to be the only inactive because this game is better off being populated by active players.

Are you still suspicious of me?

Suspicious of you? Meh. More or less. I'm more suspicious of Bubbles' votes that you inherited as well as your shrugging it off.

I like your presence though I think, but it's still compatible for a Nanman. Not my highest suspect right now, but I'm not sold you are good either.

I m not sure what vote you are talking about or how I could do anything other than shrug it off. You find an action of somebody who was not me to be suspicious, but I know that person to bw town. I do not know what they were thinking, but I know they had no bad intentions. Shrug.

Scotty wrote:

Sloonei wrote:I went with Jan and leetic. I remember Jan making a few posts that kinda set off some minor alarms earlier in the game, and leetic seems to have disappeared from The Syndicate entirely so there's no harm in voting there.

Hopefully we'll get this down to the point where I'm the only inactive left.

In day 1 and 2? I thought you didn't read days 1 and 2?

And are you hoping you're the only inactive because you know you will be on the chopping block?

You're also hardly inactive Sloon-you're present and pushing forth discussion- you're just not as active as we know you have been in the past.

People were talking about Jan when I came in. I've reads bits and pieces of the earlier days, but not the entire thing.

I'm hoping to be the only inactive because this game is better off being populated by active players.

Are you still suspicious of me?

I went with Jan and leetic. I remember Jan making a few posts that kinda set off some minor alarms earlier in the game, and leetic seems to have disappeared from The Syndicate entirely so there's no harm in voting there.

Hopefully we'll get this down to the point where I'm the only inactive left.

Scotty wrote:I'm going to suggest this:

Here are the people that haven't posted since before night 4, the last night a kill went through for YT:
-leetic
-Dunny
-Jan
-Bullzeye

Bullzeye hasn't posted since Day 2, leetic and Jan haven't posted since Day 3, and Dunny last posted Day 4.

I would strongly suggest voting a duo of those pairs for now. Here's why:
1) if one is bad and defeats another, odds are they won't be active to receive a treasure, and we just try again the next day.
2) if YT are still alive, that's our best bet to find them
3) if YT are eliminated, we know the indie leader role that inherits the kill is still alive, so it can be assumed that he is not paying attention.



Also @EPI Spacedaisy is still on the poll and the alive section of the 1st page. I'm pretty slow and almost factored her in during my perusal.

I'm going to place a couple of votes based on this. I'm not involved enough to have a real suspicion at the moment, but the strategy of lynching lurkers has been improbably successful so far, and I like this train of thought.

I apologize again for my total dropoff in participation.

That's good, thanks for your input folks!

Posted again from my Cave of Hypocrisy.

I am currently just watching football for 2 hours before I go to work, so I'll be loosely around to contribute to discussions if any arise.

I still have the second highest post count in this game. That's not good. Hey everyone, make more posts. *retreats into cave of hypocrisy*

I suppose I can contribute by asking why you'd vote for me, though. Is it just because I've gone silent? I can't help that and I don't expect it to change, unfortunately, but there was a time where I was an active contributor in this thread and I'd like think I put up a strong town effort in those posts. If there's anything that looks suspect in my actual content, feel free to share it. I can't promise I'll be able to respond to it, but anything that gets a conversation flowing is a plus.

Hi Scotty, I am working a ton. I'm also leaving the country in a week now, so I'm not gonna have time for things then either. I really really don't have time to be playing this game and I feel bad about it.

Scotty wrote:I'm not the beacon of activity that I hoped I would be either, but this new job is quite something on my mind. I cannot say I will be any use as we get closer into tech on this show, but I will try and post my thoughts as I catch up should I continue to live.

Oh, and can we start taking into account people's voting patterns? I think there is some info there that people are either lazily avoiding or disagree with me on. If you disagree, great. Praytell why.

Thanks loves

The two vote thing is probably throwing people off. I'm not usually a Vote Analysis Guy, but that's a new dynamic that I doubt anyone has much experience with. You're absolutely right that it's something we should be looking at more. There's a lot of things we should be putting more focus on in this game. This game has a lot going on but no one to solve it.

Scotty wrote:

Sloonei wrote:Put my votes on INH and sig. This is my weakest performance in a mafia game ever.

I was hoping INH would start posting more now that Red vs. Blue has finished but that doesn't seem to be the case and everyone else is piling votes on him, so sure.

Sorry you're not feeling well, man.

Have you read back to Days 1 and 2 yet? I think those days look bad for Bubbles there and I think it looks bad that you haven't done so yet.

I'd just like your input in the case that you are good, because I know how much of a force a civ Sloon can be.

If I ever find the time, I might, but I doubt I will. Starting tomorrow evening I'm basically going to have no free time until next week. I'd like to be more involved here but I'm simply not able to right now.

How does Sloonei on Days 3-9 look?

Put my votes on INH and sig. This is my weakest performance in a mafia game ever.

I was hoping INH would start posting more now that Red vs. Blue has finished but that doesn't seem to be the case and everyone else is piling votes on him, so sure.

Would anyone be down for Lynch A Lurker today? We've got a lot of names to choose from in that category.

Quin wrote:I guess I'll just put my votes in a bit early, going with Dom and sig.

you misclicked on simon.

sig still has not posted since i joined this game. That's beyond the point of being suspicious, he clearly just has things going on and can't play right now. But he's not ruled out as a suspect. Voting for him isn't a bad option in a game like this. With this many inactive players and a lack of strong active suspects (for me, at least), it's feeling more and more likely that lynching inactive players can catch us a bad guy or two. It's never going to be my favorite strategy, but I hate it less in a game like this.

I am sort of here today, but I'm also sick and don't have a ton of energy. I'll try to vote and stuff.

I'm about to have the busiest week I've had in ages. I don't know if I'll be able to do any mafia things at all. I am sorry.

I put a vote on Turnip Head for diversity. Any of the four names I mentioned earlier are fine with me. I do not think this is a resurrection, but that is obviously just speculation.

Quin wrote:Hello, Boomslang. What do you think?

What do you think it is?

These are all players who were nightkilled and whose roles are unrevealed. If that is the case I would suspect that this does mean we're revealing somebody's role. And in that case, it would be wise to vote a player around whom there is suspicion.

I am assuming this is an entirely new sock, unconnected to the other one(s) that floated around before.

"Honoring the Dead" may simply mean they have their roles revealed, or something along those lines. The Syndicate has been fond of resurrections in the past, so I'm certainly not going to count it out. I do not know how it would fit into the flavor at all, though.

And I assume votes are not changeable.

Oh, I see what you mean about the poll. And the thread is open so I presume we can talk. This definitely looks like some sort of reward. I do not know what "Honoring the Slain" will entail game-wise.

Theories on what this means?

linki: Resurrection is definitely a possibility. For that reason I suggest we all vote for a player who will be active in such an event. This game doesn't need more dead weight. Jay or Rico or Glorfindel or Turnip Head would be my choices.

Perhaps someone bought us this time as a reward.

Went with Russ and Dom because my tenuous feel for this game isn't about to get any stronger, and neither of them has won me over. Plus two of my town reads are already voting for them, and I am committed to this "don't send Bass to the duel" angle for some reason.

Bass_the_Clever wrote:Ok im sorry everyone this is the only time I have to check on till after the poll ends so I need to vote. I urge everyone to let me duel again .
So I'm voting myself and some inactive player to weed s omw of them out.

I have no interest in sending you to the duel and I think this sort of behavior just functions as a dostraction to the town. I am not sure I believe you are deliberately distracting people, but I think people are getting distracted by it. I still believe we should be prioritizing votes for players who we find suspicious, not sending people to the duels so they can possibly get a treasure.

I don't think I am, and no one else has raised any objections to the things I've said. I'm just trying to breathe life into the thread.
Who are you gonna vote for today? Do you have any town reads?

Hey this is my only game now.

MacDougall wrote:Sloonei elaborate on your gth scum read of me. I find it interesting that you said nothing of me like that until I criticised you.

Also what kind of discerning civ absolute reads anybody the way you read Bass and Quin. Matter of factly declaring them civ is very much the same reason I criticised you in the first place. You are manipulatively controlling the discourse. Darth Sloonei.

I've said nothig of you period. I did that self-GTH read exercise because I felt like there are/were a lot of players in this game who I've not thought about or said anything about to this point, and I wanted to inspire some sort of discussion around them.

I gave you a scum read because I did not like your post directed at me to start the day, and I still do not get the criticism, even when you reiterate it here. I am not controlling or manipulating anything. I am sharing my reads and trying to work things out. You usually fling shit with the best of them, but this particular accusation feels a bit too weak and bullshitty to me. You seem to be criticizing me because I am takking abot things that I find suspicious. That is not manipulation of censorship of any topics. That's just me trying to solve the game. Everyone is welcome to discuss everything.

And I am also sick of talking abot Bass and Quin. They were at the center of the conversation all day yesterday, and seemed poised to remain at each other's throats all day. I am reading them both as town and, even if I am wrong, I think a continued focus on them right now is unproductive. I want to talk about the other 30 or whatever players in this game.

Dom does not look good on this page.

Quin wrote:

Sloonei wrote:You're both town and I forbid you from engaging in any sort of contested dialogue for the rest of this day.

Who else do you both suspect?

I don't know if I could call him a suspect, but I want to revisit my suspicion of Dom at some point today. What do you think about him at a glance?

His answers to my questions earlier today were not too informative. I haven't had a particularly strng read on him at any point. I'd like to fix that.

You're both town and I forbid you from engaging in any sort of contested dialogue for the rest of this day.

Who else do you both suspect?

What do you mean with regards to DFaraday? What did he do that initially brought your attention to him, when did his participation drop off and why do you see this as a bad thing?

Not to take away attention from the other two you mentioned. I already ISOd Elohcin today and came out with a slight town read on her, and I encourage others to respond to my thoughts. INH is someone I should also take a more thorough look at.

Dom wrote:

Sloonei wrote:

Dom wrote:

Bass_the_Clever wrote:Well with so many people not posting I find it hard to focus on anyone else if I'm being honest. I think we might need to weed out some of the nonposters . I would like to duel again if that's ok with everyone elsem

Hey before we started voting you weren't you one of them *nonposters*? :hmmm:

Yesterday you voted for Mac and Bass. Has anything changed since then? Who else would you like to look at today?

Elohcin maybe. INH. Still don't feel good about DFaraday.

I've seen conflicting opinions on DFaraday now. Someone, I think it was nutella, called him a strong town read the other day and now you're listing him as a potential suspect. I'd be interested to hear what people have to say about him.
Why has he got your attention?

Dom wrote:

Bass_the_Clever wrote:Well with so many people not posting I find it hard to focus on anyone else if I'm being honest. I think we might need to weed out some of the nonposters . I would like to duel again if that's ok with everyone elsem

Hey before we started voting you weren't you one of them *nonposters*? :hmmm:

Yesterday you voted for Mac and Bass. Has anything changed since then? Who else would you like to look at today?

Bass_the_Clever wrote:Sloonei can you do an ios of Quinn for shit and giggles ?

If I get to it. I need to do non-mafia things for a while.

So anyone else wake up and play mafia for 5 hours straight today, or just me?

Boomslang shouldn't be a null read. He has enough posts.

Boomslang wrote:I'll also have a period of limited activity coming up (next weekend vacation in Gatlinburg, woo!), so I should pass on the prefect thing as well. Though I have been spending an inordinate amount of time on Internet politics groups, so maybe I am qualified? :P

Gives an excuse for inactivity, but what I don't like about is that he masks it as a reason not to be voted Prefect. He's telling us he won't be here and framing it as something helpful. I feel like a hypocrite because I just said I didn't mind Eloh doing something similar in her entrance to the game, but oh well.

Boomslang wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:So who wants to talk about this duel mechanic? It seems we would want to nominate the two most suspicious players (in lieu of one) similar to lynching, but is that necessarily the case? What if a player is suspicious but has a role type that is stronger in duels and keeps winning them? What do you all think?

Ah, MP, always wanting to talk mechanics :P I can see where you're coming from; if we were able to identify a strong dueling civ, we could put him or her up against the suspect for a better chance at a death. However, and this is important, the rules for warriors say "most likely to win in a duel." It's not a guarantee, it would seem. On the negative side, that strategy would identify good NK targets for the baddies. And if we try to get two baddies in a duel and succeed, one of them is destined for death

However, the civs have many more warriors than the baddies. So picking one from each list (suspected civs and suspected baddies) for each night might actually be a good call.
Linki: Just as JJJ put a little more eloquently.

I've seen people present the argument that scum players tend to latch onto discussions about mechanics and strategy early on, rather than investigating particular players, and not's an argument I disagree with. If we consider that here, Boomslang doesn't look too great. It's impossible not to note that we've already caught one scum doing this, as MP's the one who brought it up in the first place.

Boomslang wrote:

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Honestly picking 2 suspected baddies seems like it has a way higher probability of working.

I agree, but that's assuming we have two really good baddie reads on any given night. If we pick a known or highly suspected civ at random, we have a 75% chance of getting a warrior, which puts us in pretty good odds for a fight.

A continuation of the same thing.

He does turn things around when he returns from his vacation on Day 2, calling Jan out as his top suspect. I like this post at face value. It's the exact opposite of what I criticized him for above.

Boomslang wrote:

Nerolunar wrote:I'm voting birdwithteeth and timmer. Random votes are just a no-no, despite how dificult this game is/seems to be.

Um... you didn't actually mention either of them in previous posts? I agree random votes are a no-no, but you just seemed to make two.

Another good post and a solid observation.

Boomslang wrote:Alright, finally got time to sit down and work through this thing. Thanks for keeping posts under a thousands per day, fam :P Very glad the MM suspicion turned out, and I'm not surprised by the JJJ prefect kill. Kind of surprised INH and Scotty haven't been attacked yet, but then again, INH hasn't been much of a force in the thread. Some of my thoughts thus far:

I really liked nutella's defense against MP. I thought the second point, where she called him out for misrepresenting her attack on Dom, was particularly cogent. MP highlighted the "annoying" part while ignoring the meaty "sufficient content" and "voting behavior" reasons. That kind of deliberate misdirection pings bad to me.

I think LoRab's read on TH is very good. There's opportunity for WIFOM, but TH does seem too chummy with MM at the start, and I think "Or I could always vote myself so that I can duel the marmot and bring honor to my home." is a big red flag. It would be a way to take a vote out of play for a teammate in a seemingly selfless manner. Also, I see a possible motive for the immediate JJJ nightkill. JJJ asks why TH has beef with MM, and TH just shrugs it off with the silly "He made rude remarks about the size of my ancestors' bellies." Killing JJJ could be a way to eliminate followup questions today?

I don't like Nerolunar just kind of shrugging off my criticism of his D2 votes. The distinction between "random" and "impulse" votes seems spurious, especially when he says random is "being indifferent about the voted players" and then that his impulse votes were based on Timmer and BWT being "careless and uninterested." I don't get excited to vote for players who seem uninterested; carelessness is a slightly better criterion, but he provided no specific evidence. Can you back that up from thread posts, Nerolunar?

Jan continues to seem more baffled than someone should be. "Why wasn't anyone killed?" has plenty of reasons, and it's worth conjecture on why. That's the second time Jan has said something that seems to show a carelessness with thinking through the rules.

Pretty thorough post that covers quite a bit of ground and takes strong stances on lots of things. I like it a little, but I feel like I have seen this type of thing from scum before. When they feel the need to catch up and get involved, they toss out a bunch of reads all at once so as to appear substantive. I'll see how things progress.

Boomslang wrote:

Dom wrote:Boomslang, does a careless player mean an evil player that needs to be kept on the other side of the wall?

I'd say a careless player needs to be carefully vetted until we can figure out what's going on Case in point is Nerolunar. "I guess you could say I am guilty of saying the same thing, which I kind of am Ugh. I am a goddamn hypocrite." I really don't like this defense. If you're calling your own behavior out as shady, you're asking us to trust your civility on nothing but your word. I agree with the punishment of BWT's self-voting, but that's about it.

Meanwhile, Caps continues to dig himself into a hole. "I didn’t expect anyone to actually vote me," he says, after claiming "I would be comfortable being voted for." Why even say that in the first place, then, if you weren't prepared to shoulder the consequences? I really don't like that back and forth.

Following up on my D2 suspicion of Sorsha, I haven't seen anything to change my mind for the better, and there are a few things that change my mind for the worse. "I don't know if I'd have voted for prefects at all" is a third instance of being flippant about the game. Claims to be "ok with an MM vote," then self-votes and puts one on the absent INH. I see someone trying very hard to avoid making waves, and I don't like it.

Linki w/Scotty: I like the idea of following the WIFOM through its conclusion, but...
Linki w/Rico: UHM, indeed.

This is a good post in which he expands on some of the thoughts he laid out earlier and even goes off into some new thoughts. It looks like a genuine attempt to catch baddies. BUT two scum teams means scum can still be genuine. Why is this game so hard?

Boomslang wrote:

Sloonei wrote:You've shared a good amount of suspicion against various players, but I'm having a tough time gauging the strengths of a lot of these suspicions. The day is ending relatively soon. Who do you plan on voting for?

Four hours is still a chunk of time, and for once I'll be able to stick around through the end of day. Right now, I'd say my leading suspects are TH and Sorsha. I think we should call the big WIFOM bluff that LoRab identified, and as I posted recently, my initial suspicions of Sorsha have intensified over the days. I'm also feeling worse on Nerolunar and Caps; Jan is on the back burner for now, because all I really have for that is carelessness.

Hm. These are not unprecedented reads in Boomslang's ISO, but looking at this post in the full context it is now a bit surprising to see him name TH and Sorsha, not Jan or CapsFan or anyone else, as his top suspects. Obviously townies are allowed to change their minds, but I'd be curious about an explanation of Boomslang's thought process between this one and his first big post of reads.

Boomslang's participation the last few days has been lacking and I'm mostly interested in hearing some current thoughts from him, if he's able to share.
I don't feel great about his ISO, but I don't feel terrible. For the sake of choosing sides, I'll mark him as a slight scum read.

No one needs to read that post. I was just doing it for my own sake. Do if you want, but it's just the tl;dr way for me to say "I think Elohcin might be town."

Elohcin is not a player I have much success at reading in the past. I know we have been in a few games together, but I can't specifically recall individual games off the top of my head. Regardless, I often find myself struggling to come to a decision on her alignment. SO um let's begin.

Elohcin wrote:Hello everyone! I know, I know...I am in a game with like a million players. And I said I would never do it again. But the thing is, if I didn't sign up, then Epi's game would never get played. I mean, hell, he needed every active Syndicater in order to start the damn thing!! And then some, honestly. I see Simon is playing. He isn't even a regularly active Syndicater.

I have a question for the host. Can we vote for ourselves to be prefect?

First post is the standard announcement of future inactivity. I don't object to this. I've seen Elohcin do it before in games when she was town.

Her first votes:

Elohcin wrote:Done with work (for now) and I realized I gotta choose two people pretty quickly. So, another 3 pages to read, but I don't have time. I voted wilgy and bubbles.

In her previous post she explained at length Everytime I have a chance to come look at this thread, I see three (or more) more pages have been filled during my absence. All of a sudden I'm overcome with an extreme lack of motivation. Kind of like the feeling I used to get when I would go to the gym, walk up the stairs and see the row of treadmills waiting for me to walk aboard and move my legs over and over again in a running fashion without the ability to change my geographic location. I mean, it's a severe lack of motivation!

That said, I have read a little about the dueling aspect. I think we ought to put up two people we are suspicious of. I know this means that the winner (even though we are suspicious of them too) will get benefits, but really..how often are we actually right about our suspicions? And with this many people playing, I can only imagine that we will be less accurate about who is good and who is bad. We might as well try to get the baddies out even if that means one may have a chance win/receive benefits. Anyway...that's my two cents about the situation. ta-ta for now.[/quote]
]that she was behind and lacked motivation to catch up and then dropped these two votes, I assume near the Day 1 deadline. Wilgy turned out to be a bad guy I believe, so that's neat. Bubbles is good, but blind Day 1 votes aren't supposed to be 100% accurate. I do not doubt the sincerity of her lack of motivation to catch up - I think that is a common feature of her game (not a critique, just an observation). But this is one of the reasons I have difficulty reading her. Something like this isn't alignment-indicative for her, but it's also a very very easy way for a bad guy to float through.

Elohcin wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:So, we have two baddie factions that are supposed to kill each night and neither of them did. Is an entire team filled with inactives?

There are obviously other possibilities, but this game is as lurker-loaded as anticipated so it could be.

I was thinking the same thing. And Epi usually accepts group PMs if I remember correctly, so even if there is one active player, they should be able to submit the kill, I would think anyway. However, we have to keep in mind all the secrets and other crap loaded into games like this. You never know what could have happened. Benefits were given out to the prefects as well as the winner of the Day 1 Duel. So....maybe one team was inactive and the other had something working against them. Not sure. But I am with you that there has to be at least some inactive baddies b/c there are so many inactives in the first place.

Also, I like your theory on MM.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:I'm only sad that I couldn't face DrWilgy in a duel myself.

Nobody died, there are two mafia teams that can kill. I wouldn't be surprised if at least one of them missed their kill.

And in other news, JaggedJimmyJay is bad.

What's yer beef, Marmot?

Epignosis posted it, and he knows your role.

Shoot, I looked at that post from Epi and I thought....."whatever, moving on," There's probably something like a 90% chance that Zhuge Liang is wrong. MM, you're just having fun and stirring the pot

Oh my goodness....I am reading and making comments on posts and then I get to the bottom of the page and there are three more pages to go! I think I'll go watch some tv.

This post I like. She's engaging in a few different discussions and providing solid commentary of her own. But then she realizes she's still far behind and goes off to do something else again rather than letting this game exhaust her. I admire her for that.

Elohcin wrote:The day is ending soon. I voted MM and Russ.

Driveby votes again on Day 2, again nailing a scum with one of them. Russ is still a mystery and I placed a Scum GTH read on him as well. So we'll see. While I'm not a fan of driveby votes because they make it difficult for me to play my game, I do not hate these votes from Elohcin. It's just her thing, and the marmot vote does have some justification to it, in the post I quoted before this one.

Elohcin wrote:I voted Sorsha and TH. I have my reasons but probably shouldn't share them with the class.

Suggests that one or both of her Day 3 votes may be forced by outside mechanisms.

Elohcin wrote:Looks like they're killing the talkers. Baddies must be people who don't like to read.

An observation with a joke about how she fits the MO of what she's pointing out. Could be WIFOM, could be a simple recognition of the connection.

Her next few posts are a series of questions directed at Sorsha and MP about their willingness to be voted for and sent to the duel. She asks them both a variation of "Aren't you afraid you'll lose", which suggests at least a little that she's sincerely questioning the thought processes of these two. Good look.

Elohcin wrote:goodness, this page is being nutso. Okay, according to Niju, Russ wanted to be voted for. And I know MP did too. SO I voted for those two.

I think Russ later corrected her on the point that he had asked to be voted for, but this is the third time that Eloh has contributed to a scum lynch. Yeah bussing is a possibility, and there's two teams, but she's now helped lynch a member of each team and from a player as loosely committed to the game as Eloh is, she could safely avoid having to bus teammates very easily, especially early in a game of this magnitude. I like this.

Then she expressed vague support of Quin and CapsFan suspicions. Quin challenged her on this and they had a brief back-and-forth and both came out of it feeling good about each other, I think. Looking at it now, I am inclined to agree with their assessments of each other.

My gun-to-head scum read on Eloh has turned into an informed tentative town read.

Because I'm bored and trying to kick myself in a new direction, I'll do a GTH exercise on myself for the players not listed above.

Bass - TOWN
Dom - TOWN
Elohcin - SCUM
Golden - TOWN
insertnamehere - TOWN
LoRab - TOWN
MacDougall - SCUM
nutella - TOWN
Quin - TOWN
Russtifinko - SCUM
Scotty - TOWN


that list is shorter than the other list. this is a problem. Elohcin is the first person I'll investigate from this list. I'm not entirely sure why my gut says to put a scum read on her but I'd like to find out!

I'm gonna go through the players list and note everyone I have a null read on right now.
Boomslang
Bullzeye
DFaraday
Dunny
Jan
leetic
[Nerolunar]
nijuukyugou
[rabbit8]
sig
Simon
Spacedaisy

[Brackets] mean "I think this person has been replaced, but that doesn't really change anything."

I hope I can make this list shorter by the end of the day.

Bass_the_Clever wrote:

Sloonei wrote:That is a bit of a head scratcher. He never dropped his suspicion of you, but he did go from being especially vocal about wanting to lynch you to being okay with DDL instead without much attention or anything. At the start his eagerness to be sent to the duel was abot his confidence that you were bad, but as the votes took shape he continued to be content with dueling against DDL, like the target was never really relevant in the first place.

I wonder why he was so confident about his chances in that duel, but there's so many unknown factors to really make an alignment judgment off of that.

Because if you go into a duel not confident you've already lost.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:The heist game has more posts! Neener neener

I've been apologizing in here for my inactivity, but I just looked at the post counts and

MacDougall wrote:I am not bad. Not everyone exhibits your scum behaviour. You are not archetypal.

Am I bad? You called me out for something to start this day. I'm not sure what you think of me right now.

Bass_the_Clever wrote:Well with so many people not posting I find it hard to focus on anyone else if I'm being honest. I think we might need to weed out some of the nonposters . I would like to duel again if that's ok with everyone elsem

I agree with the first half of this post, to an extent. I'm always wary of the strategy of trying to figure out which silent person's silence is the most nefarious, and prefer to suss out things from the content that does exist. But in this game we have an abundance of inactives, and that's going to be nothing but a hindrance if it continues. The best case scenario is for those people to just start posting.

To everyone who is behind on the thread and feeling overwhelmed: Do not worry about it! I have not read anything from Days 1 and 2 of this game, or some other things in between. I've just been engaging in discussion with the time I've had in the thread and I feel like it's working. If you feel overwhelmed by the size of this thread, do not bother with it. Just let us know you are here and what's going on in your head. Please.

It's possible they simply intrigue him and he wants to collect some of their potential powers himself. I do not necessarily read him as bad for that, but it is a consideration. I had completely forgotten the treasures existed until he brought them up.

That is a bit of a head scratcher. He never dropped his suspicion of you, but he did go from being especially vocal about wanting to lynch you to being okay with DDL instead without much attention or anything. At the start his eagerness to be sent to the duel was abot his confidence that you were bad, but as the votes took shape he continued to be content with dueling against DDL, like the target was never really relevant in the first place.

I wonder why he was so confident about his chances in that duel, but there's so many unknown factors to really make an alignment judgment off of that.

Unless of course some of those secrets contain a "this player can't be defeated in duels" or something.

I just did not get any dishonest vibes from him at any ooint yesterday. His strategy made more sense to me the more he fleshed it out, and I see no reason for a scum player to have taken the strategy that he used to such great lengths. He completely gambled with his life in this game and won. I don't see a bad guy doing that so confidently.

I am town reading Bass.