The Syndicate

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2018 1:47 am My guess is NVN is Fruma Sarah and Spacedaisy is This Guy.

check out... uh, this guy.

A big part of the reason I was so irritated on Day 1 was that I was Avram, and I've wanted a chance to be the loudspeaker role for like three years. Then I finally got it and was nearly lynched before I even had a chance to use it.

I also never suspected nutella at all, but I was hoping that she (or somebody) would notice that Avram and Sloonei were saying the exact same things about her. After thay first night I felt pretty much cleared as a townie and we seemed to be on the right track, so I didn't know what to do with the role and just turned into a cheerleader.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Jan 30, 2018 2:00 am @DFaraday So did I win lol ?

Congratulations to Town. And thanks for hosting mate.

Were you the g-g-ghost?

Mazel tov!

DFaraday wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2018 1:29 am Night 4 - Sunset, Sunset

Anatevka has been enchanted! And Epi is dead! I am so shocked I can't even talk right now!

Epi has been killed.

Anatevka is temporarily bewitched. It is now Night 4.5. You have 24 hours to send in your PMs.

These words are the reason I am assuming the ghost is involved.

why can't it be daisy?

or NVN still. Is his "cleared" status altered at all by Epi dying? If I'm not mistaken, the crux of his townie status is that he did not appear to have been responsible for cursing Epi, but now it appears that Epi was tinkered with by the ghost if anything. Or am I missing something?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2018 12:18 am Exercise:

In a universe where the last mafioso is not Marmot or Daisy, whodafug is it?

... kyle?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2018 12:11 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2018 12:06 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2018 12:05 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2018 11:31 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2018 10:43 am Those who have doubts, I think you'd be well advised to look at the products left behind by nutella and speedchuck. I considered both of them to be surprising kills, the former especially.
Do you have doubts?
Yes.
Spit 'em out
That Marmot has been wisely cleared is the primary doubt.

I'm not sure I follow. Assume I've read nothing from the last 24 hours.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2018 12:05 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2018 11:31 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2018 10:43 am Those who have doubts, I think you'd be well advised to look at the products left behind by nutella and speedchuck. I considered both of them to be surprising kills, the former especially.
Do you have doubts?
Yes.

Spit 'em out

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2018 10:43 am Those who have doubts, I think you'd be well advised to look at the products left behind by nutella and speedchuck. I considered both of them to be surprising kills, the former especially.

Do you have doubts?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:25 pm Sloonei
Dyslexicon

speedchuck hated your guts just prior to his demise. Tell me why the other guy killed him.

He was a near universal town read. Also, "kill anyone who suspects me" wouldn't have been a viable scum strategy for me early in this game.

I lynched LoRab.

jinkies

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2018 1:39 am to me, "bewitched" implies ghost lady involvement, since the ghost is the only real fantastic part of the play. I don't remember there being any magic users or anything

this definitely looks like the work of a g-g-ghost.

I guess I'll continue twiddling my thumbs.

I could vote for Daisy tomorrow. Her tone in all her posts yesterday read like a baddie trying to stay away from controversy.

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:31 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2018 1:05 am Just left a date.

On my phone.

What in the world is happening?
This one.

You did respond to it after the day ended. Sort of.

Oh. I didn't feel like I was in a position to confidently answer that.

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2018 11:42 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2018 3:31 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2018 3:28 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2018 3:21 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2018 3:16 am General observation. Sloonei seemed the most nervous of any player at the end of that day phase.

Spacedaisy didn't have much to say either.

Those two players along with nova are Priority 0.
What?
Just offering thoughts as I go.
we only have one scum left. How does that correspond with your trio of suspects? Also where is my alleged nervousness, what woukd I have to be nervous about, and why would that make me bad?
Since when do people limit their suspect pool to the number of players left on the mafia team?

Just from reading the Eod, I noticed a few things. Mac and Dizzy, despite some trepidation, were on board with trusting Epignosis. Their play was light but conveyed excitement in what Epignosis was doing. Jay seemed to understand what was going on (surprise, surprise) and bothered to explain it, and also explain why nova should be cleared. Kyle falls into the same boat as Mac and Dizzy.

Of the players posting in the last 30 minutes of the day, you were the only one who didn't bother responding to my question. Instead after the day ended, you flung some light (and/or joking) accusations my way. Again, I think this lends itself to you being nervous about what's going on.

Wilgy is obviously town.

I don't have a read on FZ. at the moment.

So that leaves you and Spacedaisy. I know I listed nova originally, but that's before Jay revealed what Epignosis was really up to.

if it helps, i do not know what question you're talking about

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2018 3:28 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2018 3:21 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2018 3:16 am General observation. Sloonei seemed the most nervous of any player at the end of that day phase.

Spacedaisy didn't have much to say either.

Those two players along with nova are Priority 0.
What?
Just offering thoughts as I go.

we only have one scum left. How does that correspond with your trio of suspects? Also where is my alleged nervousness, what woukd I have to be nervous about, and why would that make me bad?

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2018 3:16 am General observation. Sloonei seemed the most nervous of any player at the end of that day phase.

Spacedaisy didn't have much to say either.

Those two players along with nova are Priority 0.

What?

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2018 1:40 am in what ways has this changed the poe? who are we down to for tomorrow?

Marmot, followed by Daisy as a distant second, I suppose.

Theory: Marmot and wilgy appeared in the thread right around the same time. They'd both apparently been out having a good time until around midnight EST. Marmot enters the thread:

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2018 1:05 am Just left a date.

On my phone.

What in the world is happening?

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2018 1:05 am Just left a date.

Marmot and wilgy's date night was interrupted by our vote shenanigans.

can we talk about why NVN was ruled out now?

so was this the plan?

I think we should have lynched Marmot.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2018 1:14 am I'm not lying right now. I am not bad dudeds

I believe you completely. But this is what we're all doing, apparently.

I wish I'd caused a fuss and forced us all to vote Marmot instead.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2018 1:12 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2018 1:10 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2018 1:09 am I'll listen to someone without votes and who doesn't hate my timing lol.
I think you are a civilian. Please vote Wilgy.
But y?

it's a bit late to be asking that, unfortunately.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2018 1:05 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2018 1:04 am Is Daisy also ruled out?
No. Why would you think that?

No one has said a word about her tonight. I don't know what's going on, so I just wanted to make sure she's still on the table.

Is Daisy also ruled out?

have we slipped back into the chaosrealm?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:50 am Everybody calm down.

There's ONE mafia.

I am not it.

There's a ghost.

Nobody but the ghost knows shit about the ghost.

Don't get all paranoid now.

are you telling me this village is haunted?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:40 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:35 am He had received his scrutiny for the day, but I don't believe anyone else was voting for him at the time.
You don't think a mafia Wilgy would avoid direct culpability in a Day 1 mislynch of Sloonei or Epignosis?

I said that's the only mafia motivation I could see for it. But it was too flippant to be that, even for wilgy. He offered no justification for his actions. I think mafiosos are more inclined to feel a need for justification.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:38 am DrWilgy said "Kill Marmot" and then voted nova. Why did he do that?

He's DrWilgy

There's a part of that's rooting for Epi to be indie.

At this point I'm mostly just curious to find out what epi is up to.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:34 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:26 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:19 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:17 am I don't really want to lynch wilgy. He's my 4th choice in the 4-person POE pool.
Tell me more about the state of the tally when he made the vote change you liked.
It was before daisy was presented as an alternative to me/epi. Wilgy had been on me and no one was saying anything nice about me. Then he abruptly changed gears and stuck a vote on Kyle. The only mafia motivation I see there is avoiding future accusations about parking a vote on an easy bandwagon.
Was Kyle an empty or small wagon at the time? I can't recall.

He had received his scrutiny for the day, but I don't believe anyone else was voting for him at the time.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:27 am Nope, Epi. It's not that I don't trust you. It's that I want a consensus that is better than this. However, I do realize there's a decent chance we're heading for a fiasco however we choose to do it right now. This is what I meant when I said the game might not go in a straight line.

The consensus is trusting Epi.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:19 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:17 am I don't really want to lynch wilgy. He's my 4th choice in the 4-person POE pool.
Tell me more about the state of the tally when he made the vote change you liked.

It was before daisy was presented as an alternative to me/epi. Wilgy had been on me and no one was saying anything nice about me. Then he abruptly changed gears and stuck a vote on Kyle. The only mafia motivation I see there is avoiding future accusations about parking a vote on an easy bandwagon.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:18 am Wilgy has not moved off Nova. Why is that?

He doesn't appear to be present.

I don't really want to lynch wilgy. He's my 4th choice in the 4-person POE pool.

Voted epignosis

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:02 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:00 am I'm inclined to believe so.
Why?

I have a natural resistance to suspecting wilgy because he's usually the easiest mislynch candidate. I still go back to his day 1 vote change from me to kyle.It looked like an earnest move from a civilian against a player he thought he saw as scum. A mafia wilgy didn't need to make that move. I haven't paid too much attention to him since then though. How were the results of the interactive reads with him?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2018 11:56 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2018 11:54 pm I don't want to.
Do you believe Wilgy is a civilian?

I'm inclined to believe so. I'd rather go for Marmot. I also still don't know why we decided not to lynch NVN, but I was starting to doubt that vote anyway.

I don't want to.

Dyslexicon was tinfoiling hard on Speedchuck the night he was killed. I don't think mafia spends time pushing a fringe suspect unprompted like that if they know that player is about to be dead.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2018 10:49 pm Anyone who doesn't take his or her vote off of Nova is am haaretz.

Why exactly are we ruling him out now?

Epi for best independent, 2018

I'm tired and don't know what's going on, but I moved to marmot

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