The Syndicate

The fact that I did not achieve my win condition means I’ll need to sign up for more games in order to be eligible for next year’s GoC.

(My win condition was for one of Long Con or Michelle to survive)

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2024 8:28 pm Also, I almost killed leetic a few nights ago but swapped to Long Con instead
Interesting how that mightve turned out

I could have been the indy winner instead!

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2024 8:24 pm Someone gave me a vessst!

One might say I invested in you.

Good game and well played, leetic.

Thanks SVS and Scotty and fingersplints. This was a very fitting Game of Champions.

[VOTE: Epignosis] aubergine

Because I can.

I forgot Davos was still here.

Is Nanook not primarily a POE vote?

Hi class

Hey what are we all talking about?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2024 10:36 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2024 10:34 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2024 10:27 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2024 1:27 am How did Epi treat Rico?

Spoiler: show
Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 11:28 pm The serious answer is "The people analyzing pyxxy for clues."

leetic, Ricochet, me, and...

I'm sorry I've forgotten the drummer's name.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2024 11:10 pm I vote that Ricochet be permanently smiley cursed henceforth.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2024 7:36 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2024 7:23 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2024 7:22 pm nutella, why is Sloonei not mafia?
His posts.

Lots of genuine perspective and progression fmpov.
Is Rico wrong or mafia then?
He didn't. But that's par for the course, it appears.
What was the purpose of this post?
Curiosity. I drew no conclusions.

You have spent much of the game looking at player interactions with flipped mafiers. Why can’t I do the same?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2024 10:28 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2024 2:20 am Back on the [VOTE: DarlingMonroe] aubergine train, I guess.
Why?

The language with which you expressed your suspicion against them made me believe there was more to it than met the eye.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2024 10:27 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2024 1:27 am How did Epi treat Rico?

Spoiler: show
Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 11:28 pm The serious answer is "The people analyzing pyxxy for clues."

leetic, Ricochet, me, and...

I'm sorry I've forgotten the drummer's name.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2024 11:10 pm I vote that Ricochet be permanently smiley cursed henceforth.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2024 7:36 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2024 7:23 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2024 7:22 pm nutella, why is Sloonei not mafia?
His posts.

Lots of genuine perspective and progression fmpov.
Is Rico wrong or mafia then?
He didn't. But that's par for the course, it appears.
What was the purpose of this post?

Curiosity. I drew no conclusions.

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2024 7:14 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2024 7:14 pm Sick, can I be confirmed not mafia now?
Sure! But why again?

Interactions with Abigail and Lemonfairy

Sick, can I be confirmed not mafia now?

Interesting

Unvote.

Dónde está la biblioteca?

Back on the [VOTE: DarlingMonroe] aubergine train, I guess.

How did Epi treat Rico?

Spoiler: show

He didn't. But that's par for the course, it appears.

leetic wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2024 3:37 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2024 3:35 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2024 3:32 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2024 3:28 pm [VOTE: cape] aubergine

This is a pure sheep vote. I trust the work that has been done which points to Cape as a suspect.
Sloonei make a vote based on their own thoughts challenge (impossible)
Sometimes this is the most effective way to play.
You do realize you can only do this because others have posted their own thoughts? It's basically acting blendy at best and like a vampire at worst

I don’t have time to perform the in-depth analysis that some of y’all are doing. Back in the olden days I needed to do that because I couldn’t come to any decisions without exploring as many angles as possible.

These days I’m not really capable of that, time and energy-wise. So, at least for this game, I’m trying to stay involved in the dialogue and figuring out who I can trust and voting accordingly.

leetic wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2024 3:32 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2024 3:28 pm [VOTE: cape] aubergine

This is a pure sheep vote. I trust the work that has been done which points to Cape as a suspect.
Sloonei make a vote based on their own thoughts challenge (impossible)

Sometimes this is the most effective way to play.

[VOTE: cape] aubergine

This is a pure sheep vote. I trust the work that has been done which points to Cape as a suspect.

multi ball fun

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2024 1:01 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2024 12:32 pm
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2024 11:34 am Nook is doing the thing I saw him do in Severance. He's keeping just up to date enough that he can give some reads, without too much explanation, but he's not super engaged with the game. He did it there as a 3p who was at least partly trying to solve the game, and I believe that would also be how he'd play a multiball, since he'd want to have at least some awareness of the game state in order to find the other team.
This is what nanook does in every game
Is it, though? I'm pretty sure he does even less when I've seen him as a wolf with TMI, and I've also found him as town before from giving slightly more shits than he's giving here.

I did make this post earlier in the game, for an indication of my nanook experience. It should be noted that I’ve hardly played at all in the last 2 years though.

Dizzy town

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2024 11:34 am Nook is doing the thing I saw him do in Severance. He's keeping just up to date enough that he can give some reads, without too much explanation, but he's not super engaged with the game. He did it there as a 3p who was at least partly trying to solve the game, and I believe that would also be how he'd play a multiball, since he'd want to have at least some awareness of the game state in order to find the other team.

This is what nanook does in every game

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2024 2:57 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2024 2:54 am
Cape90 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2024 2:53 am
leetic wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2024 1:34 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2024 1:28 am I am slamming my fists on the table telling people that Sloonei is not a civilian.
In D2, Sloonei explicitly said that falcon was a wolf and not pyxxy's partner. Do you think he would be so open about that were him and falcon paired?
That almost sounds like Sloonei knew about it being multi ball but I'm ignoring that thought because he's probably just town
I assumed it was multiball from the start, yes. This was a prominent topic of conversation in the West.
Why would you assume it was multi ball from start? That pings tbh. It never even crossed my mind until the other color and name showed up in falcon and everything started clicking. It feels more natural that mafia wolves would be inclined to assume it was multi ball from start tbh.

Syndicate tradition. The GoC is an annual event and, more often than not, it is multiball.

Cape90 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2024 2:53 am
leetic wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2024 1:34 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2024 1:28 am I am slamming my fists on the table telling people that Sloonei is not a civilian.
In D2, Sloonei explicitly said that falcon was a wolf and not pyxxy's partner. Do you think he would be so open about that were him and falcon paired?
That almost sounds like Sloonei knew about it being multi ball but I'm ignoring that thought because he's probably just town

I assumed it was multiball from the start, yes. This was a prominent topic of conversation in the West.

Emotion not found.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2024 2:42 am I have an opinion on Sloonei but I'm not sharing it yet.

Game-related, or just like an opinion of me as a human being?

I have another gripe with Epi's casing of me, tbh ftr

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2024 12:30 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 12:02 pm
Cape90 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 3:32 am All this you/falcon talk is kinda screaming w/w to me
Epi does not like to bus, so maybe there could be something to this theory. HOWEVER, Epi was also one of the first to push against pyxxy on Day 1, so I do not think he would be a landlord.
Another cart before the horse post.

I am clearly just responding to a suspicion put forth by Cape here. I am not arranging any carts or horses. Cape floated a theory, and I expressed a thought about it. I was not saying that either Epi or Falcon are or are not anything. Pre-flip associatives are the devil and all that.

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2024 2:31 am
Yeah, Nutella gives me more town than wolf but I’m not confident she isn’t wolf. She could be aligned with Lime’s mafia. Or not. Her not voting falcon really gave me pause.

Which other players would you lean more town than wolf on?

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2024 2:27 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2024 2:24 am
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2024 2:24 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2024 2:20 am @DarlingMonroe Who is town?
From East, I just feel confident about Windward. From west, Leetic is the one that gives me most town vibes.
Is there nobody else you'd be willing to give a town read to right now?
Nope, not at all. It goes from town read Windward to wolf read Radishes & Lemon. And everyone in between could go either way. At least with East side players.

What's stopping you from reading nutella as town?

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2024 2:24 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2024 2:20 am @DarlingMonroe Who is town?
From East, I just feel confident about Windward. From west, Leetic is the one that gives me most town vibes.

Is there nobody else you'd be willing to give a town read to right now?

@DarlingMonroe Who is town?

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2024 2:19 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2024 2:18 am
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2024 2:15 am All I’ve seen you done this thread is follow Epi’s lead based on nothing on me, and today you have continued to do nothing else but so, even when admitting you wolf read Epi, yet not even voting him.

??? You’re so incoherent like only wolves are
I do not know anybody's alignment and am operating with multiple possible realities in my head at once.

With that said, it is entirely possible for Epi to be mafia AND for Epi to have a reason to confidently and bluntly call you mafia as well.
And where is the possibility that he’s wrong and I’m civ at? Because apparently you forgot that could happen and that’s the case here.

That is a possibility that I am in no way disregarding.

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2024 2:15 am All I’ve seen you done this thread is follow Epi’s lead based on nothing on me, and today you have continued to do nothing else but so, even when admitting you wolf read Epi, yet not even voting him.

??? You’re so incoherent like only wolves are

I do not know anybody's alignment and am operating with multiple possible realities in my head at once.

With that said, it is entirely possible for Epi to be mafia AND for Epi to have a reason to confidently and bluntly call you mafia as well.

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2024 2:10 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2024 1:38 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2024 1:32 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2024 1:29 am I assure you I am playing this game with town's best interests at heart.
I deliberately defended Falcon.

You did as well, and you cited me as a reason to vote DarlingMonroe.

Then you went after me. Why?
I had qualms with the reasoning behind your defense of Falcon yesterday but, barring his flip, I had no explicit reason to suspect you.

At the same time, I thought the bluntness of your DarlingMonroe suspicion suggested a level of confidence that I could trust completely. That would be the case regardless of your alignment. Thus I am still willing to vote there today.

Falcon's flip recontextualized your questionable defense of him. So I began to question it more earnestly. At least, inside my head I did. I haven't been very active in the thread this phase, as you may have noticed.
What? You’d be willing to vote for a Civ just because a wolf/civ has a wrong read on them over a likely wolf? That’s not having the town’s best intention at heart. Sloonei your posts seem to try sound smart to cover your wolf intentions.

At this point, I find you even more SUS than Epi from the west side.

Eh?

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2024 2:03 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2024 1:58 am Glad Nutella has realized Long Con is a wolf
He is one of my top town.

TSP's posts are only loosely connected to reality, therefore he is town.

I still want us to find townies. So who's definitely not a Landlord, and who's definitely not an Arbiter?

leetic wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2024 1:47 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2024 1:45 am
leetic wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2024 1:42 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2024 1:41 am Hey wait a minute...
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2024 1:32 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2024 1:29 am I assure you I am playing this game with town's best interests at heart.
I deliberately defended Falcon.

You did as well, and you cited me as a reason to vote DarlingMonroe.

Then you went after me. Why?
No I didn't.
In fairness, your D3 posts on falcon never really committed to a hard stance against them
This is true. But I did not defend him. I've lacked hard stances across the board this game. That's just a nature of the way I am approaching things and the amount of time I've been able to commit to the game. In my head I was always more suspicious of falcon than not. I was by no means sure that he would flip mafia, but he was a player I would have been comfortable voting for.
So why didn't you?

cause I believed in DarlingMonroe more, and I wasn't around for the final hours of the phase.

leetic wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2024 1:42 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2024 1:41 am Hey wait a minute...
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2024 1:32 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2024 1:29 am I assure you I am playing this game with town's best interests at heart.
I deliberately defended Falcon.

You did as well, and you cited me as a reason to vote DarlingMonroe.

Then you went after me. Why?
No I didn't.
In fairness, your D3 posts on falcon never really committed to a hard stance against them

This is true. But I did not defend him. I've lacked hard stances across the board this game. That's just a nature of the way I am approaching things and the amount of time I've been able to commit to the game. In my head I was always more suspicious of falcon than not. I was by no means sure that he would flip mafia, but he was a player I would have been comfortable voting for.

Hey wait a minute...

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2024 1:32 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2024 1:29 am I assure you I am playing this game with town's best interests at heart.
I deliberately defended Falcon.

You did as well, and you cited me as a reason to vote DarlingMonroe.

Then you went after me. Why?

No I didn't.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2024 1:32 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2024 1:29 am I assure you I am playing this game with town's best interests at heart.
I deliberately defended Falcon.

You did as well, and you cited me as a reason to vote DarlingMonroe.

Then you went after me. Why?

I had qualms with the reasoning behind your defense of Falcon yesterday but, barring his flip, I had no explicit reason to suspect you.

At the same time, I thought the bluntness of your DarlingMonroe suspicion suggested a level of confidence that I could trust completely. That would be the case regardless of your alignment. Thus I am still willing to vote there today.

Falcon's flip recontextualized your questionable defense of him. So I began to question it more earnestly. At least, inside my head I did. I haven't been very active in the thread this phase, as you may have noticed.

my whole thing when I am mafia is distancing from my teammates because I never survive til the end game.

So, like, does it really seem like me to just sort of piss my pants around falcon the whole game?

I assure you I am playing this game with town's best interests at heart.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2024 1:25 am Lynch Sloonei please.

I will not fight it, but it would not yield the result Town Epi is hoping for.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2024 8:36 pm @ the people who have been doing the Good Work sifting through ISOs today:

Which players are definitely not Landlords?
Which players are definitely not Arbiters of the Rose Empire?

The reason I ask this question is because I see a lot of good scum hunting going on. I feel like the next crucial step for this town to take is to start clearing more names and shrinking the POE pool.

I am not in a position to contribute much for the foreseeable future. But I think we're collectively in a good position. Town should be able to win from where we are right now. The more names we can eliminate from our pool of suspects, the lower the chances of making a mistake. Go team, huzzah, let's go, etc.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2024 12:30 am You're voting DM because you believe in my confidence, but you think I'm mafia with Falcon.

In the words of Boo: "You a damn fool."

There are two mafia teams.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2024 8:36 pm @ the people who have been doing the Good Work sifting through ISOs today:

Which players are definitely not Landlords?
Which players are definitely not Arbiters of the Rose Empire?

I humbly request more responses, please and thanks.

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