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Sure.
If anything I get the feeling you’re very self aware of how you appear,
Yes…I had hoped that as well. She took her bag and bounced lol. I just don’t think forum mafia is for her.Golden wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:19 amI always hoped OptOutside would return one dayScotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:17 am@Roxy Can I see a link to your survivor game?? I had no idea anyone had done one before I did it like 6 years ago.S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 6:49 pmRabbits lost game had 50 people! All kinds of different threads and location based chats. That was a lot of fun and very innovative, like your Survivor game. All those trivia challenges, they were hard.
She can sure kick my ass in hidden traitor games in RL tho.Really? His answers today made me go from hitting tennis balls to hitting golf balls with my tennis racket.Golden wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:16 amI’m gonna give you an answer that assumes you’re town.
Because it’s easy for a wolf to know a wagon is town and feel confident they shouldn’t get on it.
Your answers today relieve my anxiety somewhat but my very first thought when soneji flipped town was ‘oh no, is it Dennis?’
its not you’re fault. Take it from me, a stranger, that stuff happens and you might be blamed for it. Just don’t absorb that, and know that it’s not the end of the world.lucy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:13 am i don’t have enough spoons for this game right now, brother broke his hand and grandma fell and hit her forehead on the floor. now my parents are being stupidly biased against me for stupid fucking events that are out of my control and my finals are next week and i’m just super stressed out, i’m super surprised i’m not having a panic attack right now, it’s actually strange that i’m thinking logically
Context is important. But point taken, I think both aren’t exactly town-positive moves. I’m more suspicious of off voters from the wagon too.
Falcon coming in to today voting splints because he smelled some potent smell of vanilla on her or whatever reason he has to vote her makes me feel like those 2 are not w/w. Leaning that way anyway, though voting for your partner at start of day for cred isn’t out of ordinary. Splints might not gain traction and he could just slip off if so.
Interesting. If this isn’t angry, I fear for what she sounds like agitated,Kate wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:24 amI felt rox was playing her civ game. She's angrier or "rougher" when she's mafia and there was enough ammo listed in her thread to make her mad. Based on that, I trusted her read of splints, who is her BFF.Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:22 amlolKate wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:34 pmOk so if we give some credence to Rox showing up and posting, we temporarily remove rox and splints. I'm not crazy about voting Neon. And I know Mata has been very sick so I'm not comfortable going there today.
That leaves:
Scotty
Soneji and
Falcon.
What do you think of that list?
Well here’s where things went wrong:
Why did you remove Roxy and splints from contention just for showing up?
This preemptively matches the viewpoint he came into today. I don’t know if that is because he knows Soneji is good and this is all TMI or he has a good read on Soneji. He went through the effort of giving a breakdown of *why* he townreads soneji.
Pretty heavy handed but this viewpoint is correct. It feels crazy.
Thanks Mr. “I Don’t Support Voting for Hikers”
@Roxy Can I see a link to your survivor game?? I had no idea anyone had done one before I did it like 6 years ago.S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 6:49 pmRabbits lost game had 50 people! All kinds of different threads and location based chats. That was a lot of fun and very innovative, like your Survivor game. All those trivia challenges, they were hard.
Ok Roxy. That’s a big statement.
How can you not have a strong opinion either way about neon at this point?fingersplints wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 6:36 pmI won’t hold their previous players inactivity against them. I didn’t have a read on that player and I don’t have strong feels on them either way yet. Specifically no reason to town read whereas there are plenty I feel alright about so they might make PoE by default. They seem kind of upset as of late, and I feel sorry for them because I understand that frustration of being misunderstood in the thread
boooo obstructive pop in
I also like this post. New viewpoint and one that isn’t out of left field.Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 5:59 pm
seanzie read like a frustrated townie with his skirt all twisted up under his pantyhose. The only posts that where ping worthy were these. Neon has already discussed these but they do feel like ---- what are you doing? why are you hindering? why are you doming Neon? why the thread derail? What is your game and who are you trying to protect?
Why was splints not even included in your data collection? Like, she was never in any of your cluster groups. Why is that?Neon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 5:15 pmGoing back to this again I do note that Soneji didn't vote day 1 and was on Lucy day 2 so they should be added to Neon, Bea, Falcon, Roxy, SonejiNeon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 5:07 pmgolden, seanzie, Dennis, svs, Lucy of these I think the most likely hit is SeanNeon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 12:15 pmTo go further into what I personally think we can get out of this and what I'm looking at personally when I analyze the raw dataKate wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 9:15 amI really like this post. What can we do with it? Neon I'm so glad you're here. Don't worry @S~V~S and @Golden I still fangirl you two topsies but neon has entered the chat...Neon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:28 am D1:
Wilgz (6): marmot, golden, seanzie, Dennis, svs, Lucy
Seanzie (5): Kate, Wilgz, Neon, Sabi, Scotty
Splints (1): Bea
Golden (1): Falcon
Roxy (1): Roxy
D2:
Sabi (7): Sean, Kate, Scotty, Golden, Mata, Lucy, SVS
Lucy (3): Splints, Dennis, Soneji
Golden (1): Sabi
Seanzie (1): Neon
Someji (1): Falcon
Never been wagoned at EoD (8): Bea, Dennis, Falcon, Neon, Kate, Mata, SVS, Scotty
People on both Maj wagons (4): Golden, Sean, SVS, Lucy
People only on Wilgz (1): Dennis
People only on Sabi (3): Kate, Scotty, Mata
People never on the Maj wagon (4): Neon, Bea, Falcon, Roxy
I think there's never more than 1 wolf that votes on both maj wagons so at most there's one in Golden, Sean, SVS, Lucy
I TR SVS and Lucy so I think at most one in Sean and Golden and would you look at that this last page solidified that for me lol. It's possible it's none though.
I think there's 1 on Wilgz at least but probably exactly one unless Sean is wolf. Which is one in golden, seanzie, Dennis, svs, Lucy. Which continues that same trend.
Regardless of Sean's alignment I think there's no more than one in Kate Myself and Scotty and probably exactly one in all scenarios.
I think there's a wolf in the 8 who have never has a vote at EoD which is just duh Level analysis but whatever at least one in Bea, Dennis, Falcon, Neon, Kate, Mata, SVS, Scotty
At most one in the group who have never made a stand Neon, Bea, Falcon, Roxy.
I think there's only ever one in Kate, Scotty, Mata
And i think Dennis might be the deep wolf and if Sean flips Red I'm going all in on Dennis.
Is that analysis enough for you Sean?
Kate Myself and Scotty of these I think the most likely hit is Scotty
Bea, Dennis, Falcon, Neon, Kate, Mata, SVS, Scotty of these I think the most likely hit is Mata followed by Scotty
Neon, Bea, Falcon, Roxy of these I think the most likely hit is a toss up of Roxy/Falcon but honestly I think none
Kate, Scotty, Mata of these I think the most likely hit is Scotty
So logic should dictate that I choose to hit in Sean/ Scotty/Mata
In this instance I think the most likely hit is Soneji and that they are far more likely than anyone else in this list so my PoE today is looking
Sean/ Scotty/Mata/Soneji.
I won't vote outside this.
In my stupid brain I’ve imagined that jack has moved out of the house and you seamlessly integrated into Kate and Dennis’ family, watching movies curled up on the couch together and you and Dennis fighting over the last Oreo (or whatever it is kids fight over these days)Neon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 5:12 pmI appreciate that.Kate wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 5:10 pmI was trying to see if you felt that his behavior would have been different WITH the added pressure of a baddie chatroom. Youre essentially reversing my point.Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 5:03 pmYeah... that's my point. You know as well as I do Jack wasn't a very willing participant. Having you, who is in practically everyone's towncore, attest that Jack's behavior wasn't influenced by his role would help prove Neon's towniness, no?Kate wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 5:00 pmI don't feel that neon's behavior has been wolfy. Others feel differently so I was going back to jack to try to sure up my feelings on the slot. I figured who better to try to do that than you and me?Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:57 pmThe fixation on Jack is also ridiculous seeing as how I've said multiple times he didn't like it. @Kate , what are you doing? Help me out here.Neon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:54 pm Allow me to explain my frustration a bit
Ever since my wolf game I've been getting called a wolf no matter how hard I obv town. Okay I'm a good wolf I'll say it but that doesn't mean blindly ignore the behavior in front of you. The paranoia is frustrating. At least when Mac said what he said in that quote there was a reason for it I eod things that were decidedly anti town. I haven't here and still I'm being pushed.
But than I'm not even being pushed for MY play I'm being pushed because a new player who didn't like the game subbed out and Sean has decided that automatically makes them a wolf. I don't think you should be allowed to read into anyone but my play. I think subs should be judged on their track record. Sean has spent the last page and a half saying Jack behaved like a new wolf. The fixation on Jack is frustrating especially because I think that's all Sean can say because their reasons for pushing me on my play were weak and they don't hold water. So now I'm forced to defend myself against the mental of a person I am not because Sean is trying to read into their mental state and it is a physical impossibility for me to defend myself on that and Sean knows it.
To be clear: I think if Jack had a baddie role, he would have tried harder because of the pressure of teammates in a chat. Therefore, I find it unlikely Jack was bad.
But I'd be remiss if I didn't say I'd rather be judged solely on myself in both cases weather you think Jack was town for his behavior as you do or scum as Sean does.
I think you just think I'm town anyways but I'm just saying it so that I don't look like I have an agenda
I like this post,Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 5:08 pm*sighs*Neon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:45 pm I think the lesson I am going to learn from this game is fuck contributing
I can just post nothing all game read the thread so nothing randomly exclaim someone town is a wolf lie about it till the thread believes me even though I've done nothing all game and still be town read and hard defended
But when you put in effort and bother to analyze its meaningless.
One second to be kind.
I don't deserve a break bc I posted today, I only deserve a break if my post says something you agree with.
falcon - I like his style tbs I do feel good vibes about his posts, I do not always agree with what he says but I am not getting the vibe that his susp are coming from a bad place.
splints - she is townie bc of her haphazard style is in full swing when she is bad she does NOTHING haphazardly. She is all over the map and wanting to save herself screams townie splints. When bad she is more of - you will be sorry at days end/ you have got me so wrong/ you cannot read me/ have we ever played together before vibe.
Neon already posted about them see previous post.
Mata - I feel those who want to give her pass (hell I am one of them). She is just not as in depth as normal - due rl I believe. I feel like I have never read her right as she comes at the game from a completely random angle that I have never fully understood but she is a brilliant player. I am just not sure here. All I can say idk.
Scotty - I said before his game feels diff than the anni g 1 I read along with. Not sure if it is the gym or his hikes I believe we only played together once or twice and it's been awhile since I have played but he just does seem to be as engaged as normal.
Soneji - a fellow low poster and I have read their posts but I am not sure what to make of them. I am not one to led around by other players stating ---- that's their meta/ that's nai/ when they played as a wolf they did this ---- I like to make my own mind up. GTH I would say civ.
Not sure I got anywhere in my head with this post but you asked and I wanted to answer even if it was to someone else.
Neon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:45 pm I think the lesson I am going to learn from this game is fuck contributing
I can just post nothing all game read the thread so nothing randomly exclaim someone town is a wolf lie about it till the thread believes me even though I've done nothing all game and still be town read and hard defended
But when you put in effort and bother to analyze its meaningless.
mehfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:43 pmLet's do itGolden wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:39 pmI wouldn’t eliminate scotty today, especially with him hiking.Kate wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:34 pmOk so if we give some credence to Rox showing up and posting, we temporarily remove rox and splints. I'm not crazy about voting Neon. And I know Mata has been very sick so I'm not comfortable going there today.
That leaves:
Scotty
Soneji and
Falcon.
What do you think of that list?
Id happily elim soneji or Falcon. But I’m prioritising not letting Sean get elimmed.
[VOTE: Soneji] aubergine
y’all have some weird tendencies with whether or not you’ll vote for someone. Sounds like I should go hiking every day phase (yes, I do appreciate you not voting me for no reason, which is exactly what it would be. It’s still a lolworthy reason not to vote me)Golden wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:39 pmI wouldn’t eliminate scotty today, especially with him hiking.Kate wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:34 pmOk so if we give some credence to Rox showing up and posting, we temporarily remove rox and splints. I'm not crazy about voting Neon. And I know Mata has been very sick so I'm not comfortable going there today.
That leaves:
Scotty
Soneji and
Falcon.
What do you think of that list?
Id happily elim soneji or Falcon. But I’m prioritising not letting Sean get elimmed.
lolKate wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:34 pmOk so if we give some credence to Rox showing up and posting, we temporarily remove rox and splints. I'm not crazy about voting Neon. And I know Mata has been very sick so I'm not comfortable going there today.
That leaves:
Scotty
Soneji and
Falcon.
What do you think of that list?
I don’t know what imv means.Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:25 pmGosh I have missed playing with you. We need to get our new Pirate game together!!
I would still get called out for low posting. Happens every time I play, every time I say this is the last time I'll play then Kate comes around begging the old gang to back together for a game and I get sucked in. WHOOSH!!!!!!!!!fingersplints wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 7:03 amI feel this.
It’s honestly what always happens to me and then I get continually called out for low posting because everyone posts like crazy overnight for me
Never again I mean it this time as I am so sick of people down on the way I play because I don't make a 100 posts a day saying:
XXXX Is a wolf
But this is my meta ask XXXX
When is eod
I'm cute
How old are you
Where in the *uck did you find those beets Dwight?
You dig?
FYI splints is not bad I will NOT vote for her.
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I am a low poster. I have never denied being a low poster. Being a low poster does mean I am not reading and keeping up.
Am am deffo not lhf as I consider myself more like a bunch of happy carrots. So I am more in the mud vegee's. imv for those of you who adore abbreviations.
The last day phase actually made me want to hurl and also made it so I do not want to even post in the thread. I am *trying* to get past all the awkwardness/weirdness/meaness in this supposed game thread. We are all people with feelings this game can get heated ---------why add to it?
Takes one 'fn second to be kind people.
I will now finish re-reading make my post and call this done.
Questions/posts I noticed so far:
Scotty said I seemed aggressive which I find funny as I am imv. What exactly in a post can you point me at to show my "aggression"?
Neon - welcome but you obv haven't read as much as you say you have. I have never been on a wagon nor voted in this game yet. Had you actually read the thread (and not just my posts but the hosts as well) you would have seen I self voted D 1 bc of a robbery at my work. I host voted D 2 bc of the Host punishment of self voting was to lose my vote. But actually if you read any of my posts I clearly state suspicions. Sorry if you don't like my style and want to lynch me for being imv I am used to it. Happens all the time on this site. However I do like you info then analysis of the voting thus far. So thanks for doing the leg work on that.
er, why should cop claim (my god I’m tiredScotty wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 11:17 pmLet’s back up.Dennis wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 11:13 pmWhat were you asking me? Because I saw you asking me if I thought I was in danger. Weren't you the one who said that last day we needed to get a kill?Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 11:09 pmok but what does that have to do with you suggesting cop claim now?
Why not tomorrow? Or the day after?
I think even tho we’ve mischopped thrice, we’re doing ok
I said “you must be nervous” in response to you posting “cop should claim”
As an indictment of faith. That statement comes off as nervous when we’ve had 2 doc saves.
So:
Why should doc claim today?
Let’s back up.Dennis wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 11:13 pmWhat were you asking me? Because I saw you asking me if I thought I was in danger. Weren't you the one who said that last day we needed to get a kill?Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 11:09 pmok but what does that have to do with you suggesting cop claim now?
Why not tomorrow? Or the day after?
I think even tho we’ve mischopped thrice, we’re doing ok
Interesting. I had him in my towncore before I headed out for the day.
ok but what does that have to do with you suggesting cop claim now?
Who are you talking about here?
I don’t see that happening. Vivax replaced Mata, Rondo replaced bea. All that happened last night, and I don’t see those 2 as inactive or forgetting to submit an action.
Ugh *facetious
Why would you assume that we all think those 2 are good?Dennis wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 10:41 pmThis is exactly what I was thinking. I think today we have to vote one of the six who were on the Soneji wagon so:
Golden, falcon, Lucy, SVS, fingersplints, Kate
I assume everyone agrees Kate and SVS both aren't bad, so that brings us to
Golden, falcon, Lucy, fingersplints
Neon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 12:15 pmTo go further into what I personally think we can get out of this and what I'm looking at personally when I analyze the raw dataKate wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 9:15 amI really like this post. What can we do with it? Neon I'm so glad you're here. Don't worry @S~V~S and @Golden I still fangirl you two topsies but neon has entered the chat...Neon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:28 am D1:
Wilgz (6): marmot, golden, seanzie, Dennis, svs, Lucy
Seanzie (5): Kate, Wilgz, Neon, Sabi, Scotty
Splints (1): Bea
Golden (1): Falcon
Roxy (1): Roxy
D2:
Sabi (7): Sean, Kate, Scotty, Golden, Mata, Lucy, SVS
Lucy (3): Splints, Dennis, Soneji
Golden (1): Sabi
Seanzie (1): Neon
Someji (1): Falcon
Never been wagoned at EoD (8): Bea, Dennis, Falcon, Neon, Kate, Mata, SVS, Scotty
People on both Maj wagons (4): Golden, Sean, SVS, Lucy
People only on Wilgz (1): Dennis
People only on Sabi (3): Kate, Scotty, Mata
People never on the Maj wagon (4): Neon, Bea, Falcon, Roxy
I think there's never more than 1 wolf that votes on both maj wagons so at most there's one in Golden, Sean, SVS, Lucy
I TR SVS and Lucy so I think at most one in Sean and Golden and would you look at that this last page solidified that for me lol. It's possible it's none though.
I think there's 1 on Wilgz at least but probably exactly one unless Sean is wolf. Which is one in golden, seanzie, Dennis, svs, Lucy. Which continues that same trend.
Regardless of Sean's alignment I think there's no more than one in Kate Myself and Scotty and probably exactly one in all scenarios.
I think there's a wolf in the 8 who have never has a vote at EoD which is just duh Level analysis but whatever at least one in Bea, Dennis, Falcon, Neon, Kate, Mata, SVS, Scotty
At most one in the group who have never made a stand Neon, Bea, Falcon, Roxy.
I think there's only ever one in Kate, Scotty, Mata
And i think Dennis might be the deep wolf and if Sean flips Red I'm going all in on Dennis.
Is that analysis enough for you Sean?
Its definitely that time of season. 20 degree variation day to day is killing my mojo. I’m already ready for summer again
If anyone is a wolf in this interaction, it’s SeanzieNeon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 11:56 am Okay so here's my biggest problem.
Seanzie is trying to say I'm must giving info without analysis but here's the problem with that take
I literally did fuck tons of analysis around the info.
I did analysis before the post with the info and did analysis after the post with the info and a lot of my analysis was based on the info.
Because i like reading into the raw data like that. There's no world you can say I just have info and didn't do any solving.
@Seanzie you ok?