The Syndicate

G-Man wrote:I am in need of another replacement player. If you know of anyone who might be willing to step in, please let me know so we can fill another vacancy.

I'm for hire.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Scotty wrote:Quin, I think it was you who said it was suspicious if I change up my day 1 strategies from my norm. Damned if I do, damned if I don't. I don't like giving tone reads on day 1, because I'm generally bad at them, but I figured practice makes perfect. It in this case, practice makes me get lynched day 1. So...cumquats.

This is what I was afraid of. I am inclined to believe Scotty that he wanted to mix up his Day 1 methods after getting crap for it frequently in recent memory. Scotty: if you're town and this doesn't end in your favor, I'd still encourage you to keep trying in future games. At least then people won't be able to say it's atypical.

I'd prefer we don't lynch Scotty.

It's fine. It never hurts in the long run to keep changing strategies. My day 1 low poster thing evolved from getting too involved in day 1 and often getting either mislynched day 1 or nightkilled that night, plus possibly getting a baddie, so I'm not completely averse to trying new things.

Either way, I hope you guys at least learn a few things from my lynch here

Arghhh ive been away, I'm behind again and now see the light slowly fading. Too much to respond to within 30 minutes.

I didn't NO-U Sloonei because I didn't know if that was a baddie or civ mindset. I felt manipulated by his leading of the witness, but like someone said, if he is wrong in his antics (which he is) and bad, then he's so dead on D2. I just think he's a bit too smug about thinking he caught me saving my teammate in Quin or whatever.

Quin, I think it was you who said it was suspicious if I change up my day 1 strategies from my norm. Damned if I do, damned if I don't. I don't like giving tone reads on day 1, because I'm generally bad at them, but I figured practice makes perfect. It in this case, practice makes me get lynched day 1. So...cumquats.

Epi, I answered your question. MM said you were a suspect, and he stuck to it. As for his reasoning, yeah, it's weak, but at least he's making an accusation. That's why I view him as more civ than usual.

And thanks for the NO-U leetic, without word.

Probably not enough time to save me, so that's fine. Good luck civs.

Please investigate Wilgy after today. His random blah posting and throwaway vote Rings fishy to me

OH! I thought the day was over. Silly Scotty.

Epignosis wrote:

Scotty wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Epignosis wrote:You're leaving out what else I said about you.

I don't see the relevance of the other post you've restated here.

It's relevant because I'm trying not to do what I did the last time.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Epignosis wrote:Can you name which games?

Off-hand I can name five: Trees (both town), Battlestar Galactica (both town), Triskaidekaphobia (both town), and The Office (you bad, me independent), Economics (both town). Whether you suspected me in Bullets Over Broadway (you independent, me town) is debatable.

You didn't suspect me to my memory in Talking Heads or the 2015 GOC. I think that's all the games we've played in together.

If I've suspected you every game, good or bad, why did you suggest I'm forcing myself to suspect you?

The law of averages tells me that you're bad this time and I'm right.

What did you do last time?

Will you vote anyone to save yourself today?

Is that your way of answering my question?

Lol I guess you're not gonna save yourself then?

Interesting move, Cotton. Let's see how that works out for you.

Sloonei wrote:

Scotty wrote:Hey Sloonei, want to vote Bass the Clever with me?

I do not. Why are you voting for him?

Lol

Yeah, I'm fine changing my vote from Quin based on this back and forth with Sloonei just in case I'm being bamboozled. Quin is one of 5 people I could vote for for almost interchangeable lack of content reasons. Let's move on to the one that JJJ has brought up better reasons for.

leetic

Hey Sloonei, want to vote Bass the Clever with me?

Sloonei wrote:

Scotty wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I think I like Scotty's attempt to get reads, even when he is uncertain of how to go about it. He's trying to expand his Day 1 repertoire and it appears mostly genuine to me. I also don't get the wrong vibes from Sloonei's interrogation tactic. He observed a specific thing (Scotty's read of Quin) that he found interested, and then harnessed that into a an exchange that stands a chance of producing a more complete read.

Sloonei came in saying he read Quin as bad "same as me" but then quoted examples after the fact, as if he stole cookies from the cookie jar and then replaced them with some pieces of cardboard he found in the garage so no one would know he ate the cookies preemptively.

What is your opinion of Quin, JJJ?

I do not get this analogy. Also you never said a word about why you might suspect Quin, just that you did. Why should it be a mark against me that I am able to substantiate this read we supposedly share?

By answering with "same as you" you are affirming that I am reading him bad because 'I can't remember what he said'. But then you come in backing it up after the fact, like you had a reason initially, you just lied about it.
It's Like me saying now that I'm suspicious of Quin because he killed my cat...I just chose not to mention that in my initial read.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I'd like to hear what you guys think of leetic's accusation of me. It looks to me like he just pulled it out of his arse, but I'm the target so bias and stuff.

Had to look up what you're talking about-
What makes it seem most opportunistic is that there was no lead-in. He has 3 posts, and this is the only one he makes that offers an opinion one way or another. And it's tacked onto someone else's quote.
So yeah, that by itself is sketchy. It's pretty unoriginal.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I think I like Scotty's attempt to get reads, even when he is uncertain of how to go about it. He's trying to expand his Day 1 repertoire and it appears mostly genuine to me. I also don't get the wrong vibes from Sloonei's interrogation tactic. He observed a specific thing (Scotty's read of Quin) that he found interested, and then harnessed that into a an exchange that stands a chance of producing a more complete read.

Sloonei came in saying he read Quin as bad "same as me" but then quoted examples after the fact, as if he stole cookies from the cookie jar and then replaced them with some pieces of cardboard he found in the garage so no one would know he ate the cookies preemptively.

What is your opinion of Quin, JJJ?

Sloonei wrote:The truth is I felt like your post of reads was one of those "substance for the sake of substance" posts, and your read on Quin came off to me as very forced and completely meaningless. So I decided to throw an accusation out there and goad you into acting on your "suspicion" of Quin, which you've done even though you have no reason to distrust Quin or trust me. How bogus is this?

What made you pick me and Quin as teammates out of all my reads?
I'm not liking this conscious effort to manipulate me, Sloonster. I'm sorry you don't like my reads. It's something new I'm trying.

Sloonei, if you could vote anywhere else, where would it be? Since you have such little reason to be voting for Quin (I assume) as I do.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Scotty wrote:Can someone else comment on my interaction with Sloonei? Am I missing something here? I'm getting the heebeejeebies right now

I'm not sure what you'd be missing. You both seem to suspect Quin, which I don't really agree or disagree with. He's had less significant a presence in this game than usual which I suppose isn't ideal. I'm not sure why Sloonei associated you two as team mates, so he could talk about that. Hey! Sloonei!

My suspicion runs the same line as, say, INh or leetic. I don't remember what they said. I know they said something but to me, it's insubstantial.

I dunno, I think I still prefer voting for low-posters. This new day 1 strategy is not easy to navigate with Any sense of confidence.

Whether or not that is a baddie ploy, I'm not sure.

Sloonei wrote:

Scotty wrote:

Sloonei wrote:

Scotty wrote:

Sloonei wrote:

Scotty wrote: Basically. I put those reads in as I thought of them, and after the fact realized I forgot about 4 more peeps. I can't really remember Quin's content this game, hence the scum read.

What's your beef with him?

My beef is the same as yours.

Medium rare?

Meh, ok. vote Quin

Why?

Same as you.

I mean you seemed to trust me enough there to follow along in a vote that you've got no substantial reason to believe in, despite claiming to believe in it. You've also got no substantial reason to trust me, just a minute ago you were complaining that I haven't been active enough, and now I'm here and I'm throwing this bullshit in your face, so why are you listening to me?

I happened to agree with your assessment of JJJ and Rico, doesn't mean I trust you.

Plus, I completely missed the part where you said we were baddie brothers. If I had seen that, I probably would not have even voted for Quin. As it is, I'll probably change it just because I feel like you've been trying to goad me into voting there.

I suspect him just as much as like 4 other people I could be voting for

Can someone else comment on my interaction with Sloonei? Am I missing something here? I'm getting the heebeejeebies right now

Sloonei wrote:

Scotty wrote:

Sloonei wrote:

Scotty wrote: Basically. I put those reads in as I thought of them, and after the fact realized I forgot about 4 more peeps. I can't really remember Quin's content this game, hence the scum read.

What's your beef with him?

My beef is the same as yours.

Medium rare?

Meh, ok. vote Quin

Why?

Same as you.

Sloonei wrote:Scotty and Quin are scum partners.

Woah, I TOTALLY missed this.

Wtf?

Epignosis wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Epignosis wrote:You're leaving out what else I said about you.

I don't see the relevance of the other post you've restated here.

It's relevant because I'm trying not to do what I did the last time.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Epignosis wrote:Can you name which games?

Off-hand I can name five: Trees (both town), Battlestar Galactica (both town), Triskaidekaphobia (both town), and The Office (you bad, me independent), Economics (both town). Whether you suspected me in Bullets Over Broadway (you independent, me town) is debatable.

You didn't suspect me to my memory in Talking Heads or the 2015 GOC. I think that's all the games we've played in together.

If I've suspected you every game, good or bad, why did you suggest I'm forcing myself to suspect you?

The law of averages tells me that you're bad this time and I'm right.

What did you do last time?

Will you vote anyone to save yourself today?

MovingPictures07 wrote:Yay game! Make America Great Again!!!

I'll post more of my strategies later; right now I am on my way to a meeting with the man himself.

And yes, Rico, I 100% support Johnson/Weld.

Come on Mp, where u be? I feel like I don't have any dirt on you yet, but I think you're worse of the low posters. That I can remember your posts as not reasonating is a bad sign to me.

Sloonei wrote:

Scotty wrote:

Sloonei wrote:

Scotty wrote:

Sloonei wrote:

Scotty wrote: I agree with this assessment. Though I'm not sure I "like" any particular wall better than the other. I do think Rico could be building a wall of his own though... (thanks, be here all night. Remember to tip your waitress)

Why did you put a gun to your own head and scum read Quin?

Cuz I had no read of him, and figured I should.

so you arbitrarily put a scum read on him?

Basically. I put those reads in as I thought of them, and after the fact realized I forgot about 4 more peeps. I can't really remember Quin's content this game, hence the scum read.

What's your beef with him?

My beef is the same as yours.

Medium rare?

Meh, ok. vote Quin

Sloonei wrote:

Scotty wrote:

Sloonei wrote:

Scotty wrote: I agree with this assessment. Though I'm not sure I "like" any particular wall better than the other. I do think Rico could be building a wall of his own though... (thanks, be here all night. Remember to tip your waitress)

Why did you put a gun to your own head and scum read Quin?

Cuz I had no read of him, and figured I should.

so you arbitrarily put a scum read on him?

Basically. I put those reads in as I thought of them, and after the fact realized I forgot about 4 more peeps. I can't really remember Quin's content this game, hence the scum read.

What's your beef with him?

Epignosis wrote:

Scotty wrote:Epi? He's Epi. I don't see anything out of the ordinary with Epi. Yet. Why does he have 2 votes?

MM- wow this guy I actually read...as good this game. I don't know what it is honestly. He's not as zany, he's more direct in his accusations. It's just atypical Mm day 1 behavior, and I'm liking it I think. Not that I don't like silly Mm behavior, but that I also like this guy as well. Enough so that I'm not gonn vote him today.

You don't know why I have two votes. MM is one of those votes, and you say he was direct in his accusations. Can you explain why MM voted for me?

Well, not with reasons, no. But one of his first posts in the game:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:My first impressions.

Jay, Beck, MP are civilians.

Epignosis and Ricochet are mafia.

Inform me with his actions. I don't really know why he viewed you and Rick as bad, but he did, which i am thinking is more town-like than not.

Sloonei wrote:

Scotty wrote: I agree with this assessment. Though I'm not sure I "like" any particular wall better than the other. I do think Rico could be building a wall of his own though... (thanks, be here all night. Remember to tip your waitress)

Why did you put a gun to your own head and scum read Quin?

Cuz I had no read of him, and figured I should.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Scotty wrote:I like JJJ bringing up that just because someone can turn a pamphlet about horse breeds into a novel about World War II (I'm paraphrasing/largely misinterpreting) doesn't mean he is a seasoned writer. I can words words on the words page too. But JJJ in particular has been very WIFOMy this game. I'm not gonna quote the posts, and I know he's gonna want me to, but there have been little nuggets of JJJ bringing up arguments that made me cock my head. I'm still incredibly "meh" about JJJ. But I don't in particular take to WIFOMy asides.

Could you quote the posts?

The only thing I can think of that might be interpreted as WIFOMy was "I don't care if I'm right". That?

It seems that no matter how many times I try to describe the way I play this game on Day 0/1, people still don't get it. So .

Since I'm around for a sec, I'll try and dig them up as best I can I guess.

You said you would do a master class on Day 1 strategies, and I'm willing to listen.

Sometimes. I might have ADD though. Either that, or SUBTRACT.

Sloonei wrote:I've read things. This thread is like 75% jay and rico. And in that exchange I like Jay's wall better. Or, more accurately, Rico's wall lost me pretty early. They both did, but I had more trouble following Rico's line of thought. I do not know how much of that is roleplay and how much is him just not making sense.
That said, the only alignment-indicative thing I pulled out of the exchange was Rico's apparent overreaction to MM's initial accusation, and the continued overreaction during the entire exchange. Even an honest Trump shouldn't have had to take such strong opposition to that claim. Methinks he's compensating for something, and that something is his lack of GOP-ness. Maybe. I don't necessarily want to vote for him at this point. I feel like he would be falling victim to simply being an enormous target.

Jay is a null read. There's about a 0.001% chance both of them are scum.

I agree with this assessment. Though I'm not sure I "like" any particular wall better than the other. I do think Rico could be building a wall of his own though... (thanks, be here all night. Remember to tip your waitress)

Just gonna find bits and pieces that stick out to me.

Sloonei wrote:Hello I will not be able to say anything or engage in anything game-related here until late tonight or early tomorrow. I apologize. Everyone do Day 1 things and I'll be back later.

Sloonei wrote:In the spirit of politics, I'm going to close my eyes and pick a random target. That person will be my first suspect.

Oh I landed on Jay. This will be fun. I'll uh... I'll read your posts in the morning, okay?

It's past morning and I'm still unsure of your thoughts this game. whats your opinion on JJJ now?

Linki: well there ya go

Oh shit I forgot boom, INH, leetic, and SVS.

Man, I really want to vote one of them just because I don't remember wha they've done this game. But I said I wouldn't be looking at low posters and no-shows specifically. ITS SO HARD THO because that's inherently suspicious.

2 fantasy drafts in one day makes Jack a dull boy

I'm back, bitches.


I gotta be horny, brothas and sistas. I skimmed right through those wallposts of semantics bw Rico and JJJ. I think I got the gist, but I just don't care really. It's like a couple of sea lions fighting over a rock. It's a rock- there are other rocks.

I like JJJ bringing up that just because someone can turn a pamphlet about horse breeds into a novel about World War II (I'm paraphrasing/largely misinterpreting) doesn't mean he is a seasoned writer. I can words words on the words page too. But JJJ in particular has been very WIFOMy this game. I'm not gonna quote the posts, and I know he's gonna want me to, but there have been little nuggets of JJJ bringing up arguments that made me cock my head. I'm still incredibly "meh" about JJJ. But I don't in particular take to WIFOMy asides.

Then Rico went and started making pictograms of trumptweets and while they are innovative, I can't help but imagine Rico spending a superfluous amount of time to set up that trope. Is that alignment indicative? Maybe. Hiding behind a gimmick is something I thought I read in my catchup as something someone shouldn't be judged too harshly for. But why? It is a gimmick. It's a man in drag is what it is. I'm feeling less good about Rico, but not enough to vote him today.

MP is doing his normal "I'm busy" crap, disappearing in the middle of the night. I tend to read that as bad. He's getting more in the line of "no-show" as we have in the game.

Sloonei is not as active as I expected him to be on Day 1. He gave an excuse, but I just, you know, expect more Sloon, and less nei.

Epi? He's Epi. I don't see anything out of the ordinary with Epi. Yet. Why does he have 2 votes?

MM- wow this guy I actually read...as good this game. I don't know what it is honestly. He's not as zany, he's more direct in his accusations. It's just atypical Mm day 1 behavior, and I'm liking it I think. Not that I don't like silly Mm behavior, but that I also like this guy as well. Enough so that I'm not gonn vote him today.

Beck came out guns ablazing with his hung-ho "I'm-new-here-but-ima-fuck-shit-up" mentality, and it was refreshing. But I wonder if he is acting rather than being. You know whaddimsayin?

Golden picked it up since I last called him lackluster. He got gritty being a third party omniscient on the Rico/JJJ thing. So he's a slight civ read to me.

Quin? I have no read on Quin. But fine, if I must. GTH: Bad.


Who am I missing?

Linki; oh, DrWilgy. I forgot you were playing. Whatchu got to say, bababooshakakee?

Rico is good.
MP is bad.
Beck is gab.
JJJ is meh.
SVS is gone.
Leetic is hi.
Boom is high.
Epi is Epi.
Sloonei is circumstantial.
MM is crabs.
Wilgy is $}£*G:".
INH is probable.
Golden is lackluster.
Quin is judicial.
Scotty is me.

Honest question, Rico: I know you're not in the States, but do you find ourself gravitating towards any particular politician over here? What's your take on the political climate? Very curious.

People that need to check in before Day 0 (The time before America became great again) gets extended another 24 hours:
Beck
Drwilgy
leetic
MP
SVS (so aptly dubbed the lone "female")


But I probably won't vote those people exclusively for not checking in....I....I might go craaazy this game and not just vote a no-show or low poster on day 1.

Ricochet wrote:Mr. Moderator:

Will the crooked democrats have BTSC all the time?

Will the Day phases last 24 or 48, after all? Your information in signups contradicts the information in the guidelines. Be straight with us and the nation, unlike those crooked democrats.

I dunno about the Crooked Democrats, but the Patriotic Republicans will certainly have BTSC chat all the time: because they're honest and transparent with their words and actions all the time.

Unlike some Presidents people

Quin wrote:TED CRUZ IS THE ZODIAC KILLER

It is known.

Also none of those 6 names have I ever heard for Trump. So I selected Pocahantas in commemoration of Justice Sotomayer.

can we refrain from being political in here?

Please?




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