The Syndicate

wolbre04 wrote: ↑Tue May 15, 2018 11:06 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue May 15, 2018 10:49 pm @wolbre04 will you be signing up for and playing more games in the future here?

Yes I absolutely will! I've signed up for Upick, Courage, and Easter as of earlier today in addition to being in Greece atm (and signed up for a witch hunt on my home forum but tbh that'll be awhile). I really, REALLY like it here and the games are organized in structure and the people are awesome.

I got my friends Lochlan (lilifer) and Tyler (Zephyrus) to join from my home forum, as they play mafia there with me too, and many of us have mentioned that it's frustrating now having games to play.

You’re a cool cat, wolfbae. I hope you stay and I hope that name sticks

Man, sig’s main bad read was wolbre.

I mean...it was right there. There was no other reason to kill the guy at the time.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 15, 2018 8:45 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue May 15, 2018 8:44 pm Because how on earth could JJJ not see that Mac was buddying him all game.

If buddying is a sure-fire scumtell, then I am never a civilian.

In retrospect, I flat out rejected the idea that you were civilian because I figured even an underperforming town JJJ is worth a lot for town. That they chose to leave you alive is something I must give mafia credit for. I entertained it for a second.

I’m just surprised you went with the inactives angle.

How I wish we had switched to wolbre together on d4 and then things could have been marginally savable. But it is what it is.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue May 15, 2018 8:34 pm I saved you @Long Con and you lynched me for it.

I tried to refill his shots and he blocked me.

Yikes. The inactives really only helped the mafia in this game.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue May 15, 2018 7:49 pm I don't understand why people were dead set on lynching no-shows.

Kills were going through, and they were smart ones.

I was wrong about JJJ, I still believe he was bad, I think Quin made a mistake.

Because how on earth could JJJ not see that Mac was buddying him all game. AND on day 4, when y’all started looking at noshows, could you really believe the noshows we’re behind the killing of vocal posters?

The baddies deserved the win here, but I can’t say it was a good game.

Yes I’m bitter

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri May 11, 2018 1:39 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri May 11, 2018 1:34 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri May 11, 2018 1:32 pm I think this actually is the first time I’ve ever gone 0 for 4. I can’t remember for certain, but no other example comes to mind.

Maybe Turf Wars applies, though I joined the game later as a prisoner. That one had a long stretch of failure.

And do you think, from a civ perspective, that it’s a team of inactives?

I mean, that would explain both you and Mac failing so much in your snooping abilities.

I only give you both a hard time because you guys are really good at finding baddies

when you’re good

It can’t be entirely inactive. There aren’t enough. At this point though it’s gotta be a couple of them. Otherwise it’s whoever. Mac and juliets are possible. I don’t see it in Mac’s case because I know exactly how the game has gone for me — and I don’t think he’s just been following me around as an opportunist. Hell, I largely followed him on Jack.

juliets has had problem moments that I have dismissed for her good tone. She’s a suspect because someone has to be.

I could see wolbre04 and Long Con given their voting behavior yesterday.

Bullshit. That was your case that he blatantly followed you on. You were more sure than I’ve ever seen you.

And here you’re not even casing them. Your descriptors bring about an air of uncertainty on both on them “yeah, I can see how they’re bad but.......dot dot dot”

JJJ is probably gastro. I believe that he is not the one killing, he would be cheeky like that to tell me the truth in this instance. Too much in the limelight. I don’t think he’s silencing people. Odd choice of silence targets. He could be, for WIFOM, but not as likely to me. I also don’t feel like he is Akira. Akira, as a baddie, cannot get lynched until his partners do, so he’s not exactly inviting people to lynch him. Not that Akira would be inviting people to lynch him. There’s no huge advantage there except to stall a day phase.

I don’t think the silencer is randomizing. They’re playing along.

I will flip the script and buy that wolbre was legitimately silenced. I think this game is a WIFOM Sofa and everyone’s just chillin there. But that JJJ was willing to vote wolbre yesterday makes me feel better about wolbre.

Mac has been en tandem with JJJ all game, and has been stirring the pot in such a way at EoD that I am not just bitter for, but suspicious of. It’s too loose, like swinging nunchucks but the nunchucks are balloons and are more annoying than not.

Those 2 I’m more sure on than Juliets, who is the sweet buffer. She’s the good cop of the operation, if there is one. I thought it might have been wolbre but I’m leanif away from that idea.

The 4th is a toss up. Could be Kyle, budding with JJJ all of yesterday. Could be LC. Could be fucking INH. I dunno.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri May 11, 2018 1:32 pm I think this actually is the first time I’ve ever gone 0 for 4. I can’t remember for certain, but no other example comes to mind.

Maybe Turf Wars applies, though I joined the game later as a prisoner. That one had a long stretch of failure.

And do you think, from a civ perspective, that it’s a team of inactives?

I mean, that would explain both you and Mac failing so much in your snooping abilities.

I only give you both a hard time because you guys are really good at finding baddies

when you’re good

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri May 11, 2018 1:30 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri May 11, 2018 1:28 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri May 11, 2018 1:28 pm Your suspicion is understandable, Scotty. Perhaps even correct in part. I don’t suck this bad an expect people to trust me.

You’re wrong about me though. There’s little else I can say. I don’t think you’re bad. I’m lynching literally any no-show. I hardly care which.

Please don’t kill me tonight.

I definitely won’t.

Gotcha, you’re not Smog

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri May 11, 2018 1:28 pm Your suspicion is understandable, Scotty. Perhaps even correct in part. I don’t suck this bad an expect people to trust me.

You’re wrong about me though. There’s little else I can say. I don’t think you’re bad. I’m lynching literally any no-show. I hardly care which.

Please don’t kill me tonight.

One thing is definitely certain 100%:
The low posters are killing town. Either literally or indirectly.

I left my vote on JJJ yesterday so if the vig wanted to take a shot, you got a nice big target.

Or take out a low poster. It’s a likely narrative they’re posing and one that will surely push us closer to lylo

Team of JJJ/Mac/Juliets/???

They’re all pumping each other up and softly decrying any potential guilt.
“Yeah he could be bad, but it’s just tinfoil. It’s the low-posters”
“Ok thank you, I feel much better”
“We’re all in this together, we make mistakes, we should be in better shape because of this tomorrow, our POE is stronger”

Nah.

Town is fucked. Y’all need to listen to me

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri May 11, 2018 12:54 am I won over $700 tonight.

Since you’re dead, I’ll take it off your cold clammy hands

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 9:21 pm when did wolbre move his vote?

Within the last minute. I reloaded at 9:04 and I saw that changed

insertnamehere wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 9:17 pm * awkwardly enters thread, pretending like he'd been here the entire time *

So, uhm, hey, guys, what's the rumpus?

Have you been submitting your silence actions?

You all are more jerky at end of day than a bag of chicken

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 7:09 pm Is inh known for disappearing as a badman

I don’t know the answer to that, but his absence is suspicious regardless. If there’s one inactive I’d look to lynch, it’s INh. Pennywise a marginal second

juliets wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 6:54 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 6:34 pm juliets, do you still oppose a Jack lynch and if so why?

Jay, I'm just not picking up the same vibes as you and Mac regarding him trying to find a reason to vote Epi knowing he was civ. I've looked at that "bad" post a bunch of times and it just looks like a normal vote post to me - maybe not a gung-ho post but not a bad one either. If I joined the Jack wagon it would be strictly because I see you and Mac as civ and know the two of you are good at picking up on mafia - in other words, not because I believed in the vote personally but because I believe in the two of you. That just doesn't feel like the right thing to do.

Not this game, they haven’t.

Unless jack is bad.
But his desperation here is reading more and more like I felt at the end of the last day in Greece. It could be NAI, but I don’t share the same conviction. If jack is lynched today and comes up bad, I would be surprised, is what I’m saying

Sorry y’all, I’m pretty out to lunch at work and am not responding to some questions j know.

I’m sure something will happen in the last hour and change everything we’ve been talking about all day tho, so whatever.

I’m fine with my Vote on JJJ currently

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 4:50 pm Of the absentee group:

Dom, INH, Pennywise

I think the most likely mafioso is INH.

I agree with this

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 4:19 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 4:17 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 4:03 pm Seeing as I don’t know if I can trust you right now, JJJ, I don’t feel inclined to switch to jack. I’m in my stubborn form. Probably engorged from all the Thai food I had last night but still

My opinion shouldn't matter. Read Jack yourself.

I did. He’s said some odd things, to be sure, but I don’t wanna lynch him for saying odd things. Even his interaction with Epi doesn’t mean as much to me. If we’re under the assumption that vig killed Epi (and the “shit” verb really Adias in thT thought) then Epi and his interactions mean little to me in finding mafia

‘“Shot” verb really aids in that’

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 4:17 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 4:03 pm Seeing as I don’t know if I can trust you right now, JJJ, I don’t feel inclined to switch to jack. I’m in my stubborn form. Probably engorged from all the Thai food I had last night but still

My opinion shouldn't matter. Read Jack yourself.

I did. He’s said some odd things, to be sure, but I don’t wanna lynch him for saying odd things. Even his interaction with Epi doesn’t mean as much to me. If we’re under the assumption that vig killed Epi (and the “shit” verb really Adias in thT thought) then Epi and his interactions mean little to me in finding mafia

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 4:13 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 12:38 pm I also think sig was killed because he suspected wolbre. Couple that with JjJ’s catch of wolbre’s “townslip” makes me feel more sure

what is ur proposed relationship between jay and wolbre

Wolbre said something with weird syntax that could have been contrued as him looking at suspecting Dys after dys was killed, and JJJ was bringing attention to that post, calling it a townslip. Only when I brought it up again did they have an exchange that made it appear like wolbre meant something else and JJJ “revokes” the townslip.

I felt the exchanges looked forced, like JJJ brought it to the thread’s attention to make him look good.

But I dunno. I could be wrong.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 4:06 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 3:58 pm

sig wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 11:27 pm Wolbre is being to nice. I think he's mafia.

sig wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 11:47 pm

wolbre04 wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 11:29 pm

sig wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 11:27 pm Wolbre is being to nice. I think he's mafia.

He literally just posted glad to have me here LOL
I'm not gonna respond "fuck you"
Sig stop wallflowering it's irritating me

And overall you're just being really nice this game it pings me.

sig wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 4:09 pm So I don't have the time or really the energy to build a proper case right now, but I'm gut reading Wolbre bad. He just doesn't seem genuine to me this game. I'll probably start tomorrow with a vote there.

Incidentally, that last post was also sig’s last post, in N1. He was killed N2.

Wolbre was sig’s main suspect.

Was Sig silenced on Day 2? (ie was anybody else silenced Day 2?)

The old "silence and then kill" classic routine is a nightkill strategy I can understand.

That was me.

Good look for jack I feel since I think he would remember if his teammate silenced me

Seeing as I don’t know if I can trust you right now, JJJ, I don’t feel inclined to switch to jack. I’m in my stubborn form. Probably engorged from all the Thai food I had last night but still

sig wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 11:27 pm Wolbre is being to nice. I think he's mafia.

sig wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 11:47 pm

wolbre04 wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 11:29 pm

sig wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 11:27 pm Wolbre is being to nice. I think he's mafia.

He literally just posted glad to have me here LOL
I'm not gonna respond "fuck you"
Sig stop wallflowering it's irritating me

And overall you're just being really nice this game it pings me.

sig wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 4:09 pm So I don't have the time or really the energy to build a proper case right now, but I'm gut reading Wolbre bad. He just doesn't seem genuine to me this game. I'll probably start tomorrow with a vote there.

Incidentally, that last post was also sig’s last post, in N1. He was killed N2.

Wolbre was sig’s main suspect.

Hey [mention]JaggedJimmyJay[/mention] I would feel stronger voting for wolbre. Wanna vote there with me and see what turns up? Or are you absolutely deadset on jack today?

I don't know what to think. I feel like there's too many Yes men here- Mac, Kyle and DDL are all latching onto jack here and I still don't see the incrimination that they do. It feels too easy and I'm still bitter from being led around like a monkey tethered to a streetlamp on D1 and then again on D3.

I know I'm not one to talk- I haven't done nearly the amount of investigative digging as some people.

But some people aren't producing.

No, I don't wish to lynch an inactive, DDL. Might as well be playing the lottery.

I also think sig was killed because he suspected wolbre. Couple that with JjJ’s catch of wolbre’s “townslip” makes me feel more sure

I don’t believe that we’re this far behind on Day 4 with a supatown combo of JJJ and Mac. In this instance, fairly or not, their reputation precedes them and my expectations are higher.

I’m sorry if you’re genuine in your Epi interactive iso, JJJ. I just think as far as you establish yourself as emulating your supatown meta, a baddie JJJ can skate by as we continue to mislynch.

I think Mac is equally as guilty with all his switcheroos on D1 and I’ll investigate him further too

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 10:35 am

juliets wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 10:26 am Ok I read through Jack but I'm not seeing the glaring evidence that he's bad. I'm going to find the posts where people explain the "why" behind the accusation. Maybe it's a meta thing. He does seem aimless but is that AI for him?

Most succinctly: I think his treatment of Epignosis is suggestive of a player who knew he wasn’t a mafioso.

I feel this to be circumstantial.

I make posts that seem absolutist at times as complete airballs. I don’t think it is incredibly incriminating RE Epi

juliets wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 8:06 am I will read Jack's ISO and see if I see what JJJ and Mac are seeing. I need to re-discover why I thought he was civ earlier in the game. Also, I will try and ignore the fact that he believes me to be civ as that causes me to be positively inclined toward him even though I know that's not a good way to think. I guess it could be that he knows I'm civ. Anyway, I'll take a look.

Scotty, I'm still curious if you will indulge me. Why did you vote for me last night?

Because I think you are still surface level assessing the game, and I expect more gumption. A lot of it is just gut.

I do my best work when we catch mafia first, unfortunately. Most of this is just gut, but I stand by it

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 2:36 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 1:21 am

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 1:18 am i paused the fireblight ganon boss battle in order to read ur isos don't feel down

I appreciate it. In so doing you've helped to uncover the dark truth that Jackofhearts2005 is himself Ganondorf, the Great King of Evil, the Dark Lord, he who contains the wretched beast Ganon in the Dark World under the great pyramid.

Overreaction much?

This wasn’t an overreaction.

Why are you acting like a cornered baddie?

[mention]JaggedJimmyJay[/mention] I see and skimmed most of your “how x handled Epi” novels and i don’t understand what you’re trying to show.

If we’re under the assumption that one of the vig’s Shot him, shouldn’t the people that seem to have the most veiled animosity be civ? Or...I just don’t know why you’re focusing so heavily on Epi interactions.

In any case, I feel like you’re just doing busy work to make it look like you’re doing something.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 12:40 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed May 09, 2018 11:44 pmOur protector died (Novato) and our roleblocker...uh..also just died.

Avito wasn't a doctor, he was a bodyguard. Our doctor is still alive.

Oh right. I knew that.

All work and no play makes JJJ a dull bboy

I think these kills are a distraction from the talking heads leading us astray. I think they are all a ploy to justify the fact that JJJ and/or Mac aren’t being killed.

“But Scotty, they wouldn’t kill JJJ or Mac because they’re not producing!”

Nah, they look plenty town. You need a made up reason to not kill either of them. And I believe it comes with these nonsense NKs.

JJJ has us believe that Epi was a vig kill...and at the same time, the mafia decided to hold off/were blocked?

Our protector died (Novato) and our roleblocker...uh..also just died.

I dunno guys, I think we need to start looking at the big posters here

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed May 09, 2018 4:17 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Wed May 09, 2018 2:57 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed May 09, 2018 2:17 pm @juliets when you get a sec I'd be curious to hear what you think about my Epignosis theory

I see it as a possibility Kyle but if he is one of the two I lean to the round-faced independent. I just don't think he's bad.

but why

Quin wrote: ↑Wed May 09, 2018 12:46 am shit that reminds me I haven't set the thread to night 3 (sorry Scotty)

Thanks for thinking of me

I could lynch one of Mac or JJJ tomorrow. Or whoever moved the thread en masse to sprit

You guys really like to change the entire lynch in the last 30 minutes, when I’m busy.

Like why do I even bother posting before then

Linki: yeah, me too me too nova

Juliets, wolbre, and INH, in that order. That both of my former reads are voting for INH makes me not want to vote INH today.
and oh sprityo is someone I was pinged with on N1 but I don’t remember why. You guys seemed to come around as a group to liking him and I again don’t know why.

But I’ll let it slide for now

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 3:51 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 3:48 pm Jay, do you think Marmot is currently faking his silence?

To be fair, that is something scum Marmot would do.
But to be fairer, most people know this to be something scum marmot would do

Could be. I could also see scum Marmot literally silencing himself. I have no inspired take though.

Faking silence = silencing self in this instance, sorry I wasn’t clear

It doesn’t look like anyone else is silenced except INH lol

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 3:18 pm The decision to kill sig may be telling given that he is so well-known around here for being mislynch bait. That may be an indicator of noob presence among the mafia.

Yes, an early dog NK might be just what sinks the mafia ship, actually.

I agree with this sentiment.

Also, wolbre was sig’s biggest detractor


Jus sayin

In INh’s Defense (weird, I know) this is different from his GoC in that he hasn’t taken much position on people. In GoC he was quite adamant at defending his teammates and even made up a thorough (but flimsy case) on sig that he beat to a pulp.

He’s just not around in this one.

Jay, do you think Marmot is currently faking his silence?

To be fair, that is something scum Marmot would do.
But to be fairer, most people know this to be something scum marmot would do

juliets wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 2:52 pm Ok so INH has 8 of 16 posts that are about Twin Peaks. He then sheeps Epi's vote for me and votes lap in the Hot Potato. Then he doesn't vote at all in the Avito lynch. This is not a good look but I need to think through whether the Genius is interfering with his play this game.

I mean it probably is, but that shouldn’t excuse him being absent for Night 1-almost end of Day 3