The Syndicate

Thanks for a fun and stressful game, llama! It was making me really incorrigible IRL especially when my time was limited, and surprised at this weird heroin endorphin rush I'm feeling now.

thellama73 wrote:What most surprised me is that the Cannibals and Pirates never once killed a member of the other team. They always went for civilians. Still, I am pleased at how balanced the game turned out to be. Getting down to three final players, one from each faction, was cool.

That's actually ridiculous. I know I aimed to hunt for the pirates as much as anyone but I was pretty shit at it in the early runnings and it wasn't until the Mac lynch that I felt a bit more confident in who the baddies were, thus forcing me to choose which people to NK. I know Quin was also actively searching for the baddies as well, which is why I love the multiple team mechanic. Everyone actually baddie hunting.

I voted for LC in the LC-Mac lynch for the main reason that I didn't want to thin out the pirates too early, though Snow Dog saved him. Then blocked me one of the next nights so I couldn't kill vomps like i was supposed to. LC, I still owe you a drink as promised.

Snow, I completely believed that you were Herman Toothrot, especially with your infodumping as the Banana King. Was it you that actually use bananas on LC that lynch? Anyway, I wanted to keep you alive on the last day because I thought we didn't need to kill you. Little do I know you were the main thorn in my side the entire time . Totally would nominate you for civ MVP had it turned out that way and I decided to kill zebra the last night instead.

@Vomps- I was sorely disappointed in your final vote, because I was pretty confident zebra was a pirate and I could convince you that I was also civ. I figured it could have come down to you knowingly choosing who to win, and your vote came with the predilection that you thought we were both bad and you "tied" it up, which had no real logic to it. It felt like the game was all was for nothing because your vote didn't even make sense. I would understand if you thought we were both bad and you wanted zebra to win, but that's not what you said. But then I remembered who I was playing with, and I stopped whining like a little girl. Its not like I should be surprised by your antics at this point

Snow Dog wrote:Nahcho. Why did you say you trusted zebra and Snow Dog? This is the comment that stopped me going aftre her and the basis for all my subsequent reads. So it was an unfortunate post from my point of view. I thought you had info.

I am also curious about this.

...Wow. I had already conceded the game in the BTSC chat and had to come to terms with that and now this? Holy shit.



Sorry to deceive, y'all, and thanks to whoever used that grog last night. I think I just got lucky this go round.

Golden wrote:Hey cannibals! You didn't need to kill me!

Yeah, sorry about that. That was my idea. But since I killed you, I got your necklace to use for the rest B of the game which probably could have been useful. I apologize

a2thezebra wrote:

Vompatti wrote:Would you believe me if I told you I'm not bad?

No, because process of elimination says that you are.

What if we're all good?

Just kidding. I'm Mulholland Drive Mafia, and here is a link to the game thread: http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... ck#p312384

Vompatti wrote:Would you believe me if I told you I'm not bad?

I love horses.

I'm now still confused which of you is bad.

But such is the story of this game for me.

I'm very confused as to what Vomps is doing if he were bad, because wouldn't he just have voted zebra and be done with it?

If it could be changed I would formally change it to Vompatti

a2thezebra wrote:Shit, I just realized Vompatti is bad. Are votes not changeable on the final day?

I would be down.

Vompatti wrote:Would you believe me if I told you I have a feeling both of you are bad, so I voted for Scotty to make it a tie?

I literally can't believe you right now.

Nah. I don't think vomps is on a team. He was the most unlikely from the standpoint of voting records alone. I'm not sure why he hasn't been killed except for this very scenario where he is a WIFOM balloon at the Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade at Endgame but once again if he's bad then he deserves the win.

Im voting zebra with the hope that there isn't some voting shenanigans that I dont know about.

Ohh unless one baddie faction was eliminated last night in the NK. Which would make sense if it were Wilgy I guess.

My gut tells me if that's the case that zebra is bad.

Vomps, I have no idea if you are good or bad, and I don't think I'll ever know, but I think that killing zebra is the right choice here. If you're bad, then lolol gg

Wait wtf. So both baddie teams were still alive and the game isn't over? Am I literally alive right now to choose which of vomps or zebra wins or am I missing something?

Vompatti wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:And it isn't infodumping. llama allowed it.

Probably Wilgy or Scotty k

Vomps confirmed good lol

ill be hiking all day here in Arizona and won't be around until probably 7p est.

Snow Dog wrote:And it isn't infodumping. llama allowed it.

5. Absolutely no infodumping. There are a lot of information roles this game, and I can't emphasize this enough. Be discreet, or be modkilled.

Huh.

Snow Dog wrote:Scotty, I think I will be NK'd tonight. Tell me, who do you think has a kill? Wilgy?

Scotty wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:Hey Vomps. Can you vote Zebra tomorrow?

Who ya gonna kill tonight?

Why do you think you're getting the axe tonight?

Snow Dog wrote:

Scotty wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:

Scotty wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:Hey Vomps. Can you vote Zebra tomorrow?

Who ya gonna kill tonight?

Okay Scotty. Who is bad?

1. Wilgy
2. You or zebra.

Or it could be Vomps for all I know. I've been fucking wrong all game

Isn't it obviously not me? What more do I need to do?

obviously.
nothing you've done proves you're civ unless someone has checked you. What's you've got going for you I guess is that Wilgy wanted me to vote you yesterday, but even then I don't know if he would have followed through.

Wilgy, I still don't know why you chose Snow Dog specifically to vote tomorrow if you suspect zebra.

Linki: lol we don't know that. Plus it would be infodumping, which isn't allowed anyway. Who's to say LC or someone else saved him?

Snow Dog wrote:

Scotty wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:

Scotty wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:So here's the thing. I'm 98% sure that there are shenanigans in play. A tie will result in better things for baddies than civvies.

Scotty if you trust me, vote Snow Dog. Otherwise you will die.

Also you're asking me to vote Snow Dog on the condition that You also will vote Snow Dog.

Which would still be a 3 way tie.

Which will, in your words, "result in better things for baddies"

Wilgy, you bad bro. I just wish I knew your baddie partner.

I voted for you because I believed certain things about other players. I wouldn't blame you at all if you are civ in voting for me. I think yuo may be alright this lynch though.

What does that mean? Still 2 votes left, and even you said you didn't have items left. I not only don't want to die but I want to lynch someone bad. I don't have a lot of options here and frankly am nervous we already lost.

I do not have items. But I have info. I cannot go further than that.

And what does this mean, O herald? I have info too, and I can go further:

Try and NK me tonight. I dare you

Snow Dog wrote:

Scotty wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:Hey Vomps. Can you vote Zebra tomorrow?

Who ya gonna kill tonight?

Okay Scotty. Who is bad?

1. Wilgy
2. You or zebra.

Or it could be Vomps for all I know. I've been fucking wrong all game

DrWilgy wrote:Hey Vomps. Can you vote Zebra tomorrow?

Who ya gonna kill tonight?

Wel fuck.

LC I'm really sorry. Like actually though- it came down in my mind to selfish reasoning as well- that we can't win unless we're alive is really throwing me through a loop this game.

And Wilgy, why even put me through that?

DrWilgy wrote:Sorry today was a bitch. Voting Scotty. Gave him a chance.

Snow Dog was grog'd so there goes that opportunity to redeem yourself in my eyes Scotty.

No. you don't get to blame me-
you waited patently all day until I voted, asking me to put blind faith that I would vote where you wanted me to vote. Maybe if I didn't already have votes, then I would have held your hand into the sunset. But even then I figure there's some sort of shenanigans with you and either Snowdog or zebra that would have got me killed.

And I'm not convinced snow Dog was grogged. And why grog him?!! Literally nothing you were doing in the end of day yesterday pulled me into the delicious Wilgy pudding that I think you think I should be in.

Snow Dog wrote:

Scotty wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:

Scotty wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:So here's the thing. I'm 98% sure that there are shenanigans in play. A tie will result in better things for baddies than civvies.

Scotty if you trust me, vote Snow Dog. Otherwise you will die.

Also you're asking me to vote Snow Dog on the condition that You also will vote Snow Dog.

Which would still be a 3 way tie.

Which will, in your words, "result in better things for baddies"

Wilgy, you bad bro. I just wish I knew your baddie partner.

I voted for you because I believed certain things about other players. I wouldn't blame you at all if you are civ in voting for me. I think yuo may be alright this lynch though.

What does that mean? Still 2 votes left, and even you said you didn't have items left. I not only don't want to die but I want to lynch someone bad. I don't have a lot of options here and frankly am nervous we already lost.

I do not have items. But I have info. I cannot go further than that.

O rly? Because you seemed to have no problem coming out with what items you used in the last lynch.

I have to go guys.

Wilgy, I don't know what you are doing today but I voted LC. I don't know why you were waiting on me to vote even after saying it was "up to me". I can't not see you as bad and hope to the gods of monkey island that this didn't just cost us the game

Snow Dog wrote:

Scotty wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:So here's the thing. I'm 98% sure that there are shenanigans in play. A tie will result in better things for baddies than civvies.

Scotty if you trust me, vote Snow Dog. Otherwise you will die.

Also you're asking me to vote Snow Dog on the condition that You also will vote Snow Dog.

Which would still be a 3 way tie.

Which will, in your words, "result in better things for baddies"

Wilgy, you bad bro. I just wish I knew your baddie partner.

I voted for you because I believed certain things about other players. I wouldn't blame you at all if you are civ in voting for me. I think yuo may be alright this lynch though.

What does that mean? Still 2 votes left, and even you said you didn't have items left. I not only don't want to die but I want to lynch someone bad. I don't have a lot of options here and frankly am nervous we already lost.

DrWilgy wrote:So here's the thing. I'm 98% sure that there are shenanigans in play. A tie will result in better things for baddies than civvies.

Scotty if you trust me, vote Snow Dog. Otherwise you will die.

Also you're asking me to vote Snow Dog on the condition that You also will vote Snow Dog.

Which would still be a 3 way tie.

Which will, in your words, "result in better things for baddies"

Wilgy, you bad bro. I just wish I knew your baddie partner.

Why hvent you voted yet Wilgy? I know why I hadn't, but I'm running out of time. I have a rehearsal and show I need to devote my time to in the next 20 minutes and I won't be around until 6 hours from now.

DrWilgy wrote:

Scotty wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:Yay! Baddies win!

3 votes placed on 2 civs

Wtf are you talking about.

DrWilgy wrote:I'm just waitin for another vote and a half LC. No worries.

Guys Wilgy just claimed baddie and no one is calling out his shit.

Vomps, I want you and I to vote him and someone throw some grog on me. He played his cards too early

Is this what you honestly believe Scotty? You honestly believe i threw everything at the last second?

Your comment out of the blue makes no sense, and that is how I came to take it. The whole "yay baddies win " isn't a promising post.

DrWilgy wrote:So here's the thing. I'm 98% sure that there are shenanigans in play. A tie will result in better things for baddies than civvies.

Scotty if you trust me, vote Snow Dog. Otherwise you will die.

I don't trust you. That's the point. I see no evidence that I ever should have trusted you in this game, and you still haven't voted for some reason.

Vomps listened to zebra and voted LC which is not what I was suggesting at all but whatevs.

WHY DO YOU PEOPLE LEAVE IT UP TO ME? We saw how that worked out last time, except this time it's either to trust someone who may or may not have any stake in the game as the navigator or tooth rot and vote where says to vote on the pretense that he won't vote me or vote LC again to save myself on the pretense that he may be bad.

Fuck man

thellama73 wrote:I appear to have accidentally let the poll run for three days instead of two. ALthough I said 48 hours in the post, I expect people are confused and that is why they have not voted. Should I end the poll in 10 minutes as I originally intended, or allow it to run an extra day or until everyone has voted?

Oops yeah I was only going off of the actual poll.

Thanks llama.

Vomps where are you

Long Con wrote:

Scotty wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:Yay! Baddies win!

3 votes placed on 2 civs

Wtf are you talking about.

DrWilgy wrote:I'm just waitin for another vote and a half LC. No worries.

Guys Wilgy just claimed baddie and no one is calling out his shit.

Vomps, I want you and I to vote him and someone throw some grog on me. He played his cards too early

"Vote and a half", I don't get that Civ or bad. What does he mean?

I thought "baddies win" was a sarcastically celebratory way to say "stop voting Civs or the baddies will win"... this is just weird. Is it too late? Is it over?

I take it as:
"I am bad and have a banana and so it doesn't matter if you vote me because I will only have 1 vote max"

...unless someone can throw all their shit at Wilgy it sure sounds like he's gonna walk off with this one. I haven't voted yet because I want to make sure vomps is on board. It's either we throw our last votes on Wilgy or I put it on LC to tie it with me and hope you're bad LC. I don't know who Wilgy's partner is, if he has one.

We should have lynched Wilgy day 2 when he still '"hadn't" read his rolecard. I'm gonna be so pissed if I'm lynched today and Wilgy and whomever else get away with a win after such an obvious cop out all game

Scotty wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:Yay! Baddies win!

3 votes placed on 2 civs

Wtf are you talking about.

DrWilgy wrote:I'm just waitin for another vote and a half LC. No worries.

Guys Wilgy just claimed baddie and no one is calling out his shit.

Vomps, I want you and I to vote him and someone throw some grog on me. He played his cards too early

Not grog- banana. You know, the one that eliminates a lynch vote. We need to lynch Wilgy.

Mac, while bad, may have been distancing

DrWilgy wrote:Yay! Baddies win!

3 votes placed on 2 civs

Wtf are you talking about.

DrWilgy wrote:I'm just waitin for another vote and a half LC. No worries.

Guys Wilgy just claimed baddie and no one is calling out his shit.

Vomps, I want you and I to vote him and someone throw some grog on me. He played his cards too early

Long Con wrote:Go ahead and vote for me, if we are in lylo then the Civil will lose. If Wilgy and Vomp don't want to lynch Scotty, then I believe the best course of action would be to vote for zebra. I don't think Snow Dog would have saved me if he were bad, and he didn't make a mistake saving me.

How many baddies do you think there are left?
And on which team?

just got done visiting a children's hospital for PR. I love seein those kids smile

Long Con wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:Zebra can you comment on LC's vote analysis?

Trash.

Well, the facts about who voted for who are not trash, they are facts. So if my analysis was trash, then why don't you use those facts to show us what a proper analysis looks like. Take your time, we seem to have until Friday.

Long Con wrote:Ok zebra. I'll try harder tomorrow.

In the interest of not splitting the vote, I'll go along with Snow Dog's judgement and vote for Scotty today.

*votes Scotty*

Man, you didn't even wait 12 hours to vote me, didja?

I made a math error in my previous post- I thought there was one more player than there is. I think that with 2 cannibals left we are in LYLO unless there's a successful block or protect. So do not lynch me. We can't afford this.

Snowdog, your choice to save LC will either be one of the worst moves for us this game or a good one. I think you were either swayed by LC (though i don't recall you saying exactly what swayed you) or purposefully saved him because he is your teammate. If we are in LyLo like I now think we are, what do you have to lose in obviously saving your teammate?

That's a scenario.

The other scenario I see is you just fell for LC's appeal at the EoD and he's still sealing the pill hook line and sinker.

But nah. I think you're both bad.

I will vote for whomever the group decides to vote for, but would suggest LC or Snowdog. And if that, I'd suggest LC again.

Because he's obviously bad

Rip nacho- safe kill, also one kill mKes me think there's only 1 team left. In that case, I don't think we're in LYLo. If I get lynched it's not the worst thing for us- I'd rather not because im not bad but I think we can take it since I think we probably don't have more than 2 baddies, and I Think they pro bably cannibals.

I won't be around tomorrow, got a lot of shit on my plate. I'll check back tomorrow. But for now, I would wanti avoid everyone on my pirate list. I think odds are they're probably all gone.

DrWilgy wrote:@Scotty probly 1-2 cannibals left and a single pirate.

Zeebs if you were bad would you tell me?

Huh. You said 3 were probably alive yesterday and even after Mac's flip you think there could still be 3?

Do you think a team was blocked last night or missed a kill then? As you know, Mac was around that last night. Do you think it more likely the cannibals or pirates didn't kill?

Asking for a friend.

Snow Dog wrote:

Scotty wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:

Scotty wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:Scotty. You think LC saved himself?

Yes

Long Con wrote:Oops, looks like I had a banana or two in my pocket after all! BIH Macdougall.

I reckon he had help.

i reckon the browns will win a game eventually too

Browns?

I'm saying I know what you're suggesting and there is no way to prove that until the game is over. Even if he did have help, it sounds like it may not have been needed. Either way, I think he used bananas

Scotty wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:What is a policy lynch or whatever?

Generally it's a lynch for arbitrary reasons- a lynch of someone ny because they're particularly bad-looking but because they could hurt town later on if they're not lynched early.

Aka lynching a no-show on day 1

Snow Dog wrote:What is a policy lynch or whatever?

Generally it's a lynch for arbitrary reasons- a lynch of someone ny because they're particularly bad-looking but because they could hurt town later on if they're not lynched early.

Mac also started slinging mud all the over the place yesterday:

MacDougall wrote:

Nachomamma8 wrote:I voted Mac partially in honor of MM and partially because it's the only vote I can make in good conscience

Nice attempt at a framejob.

MacDougall wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:And it would be disingenuous of me to keep pretending that my personal grievances of him qualifies as a suspicion of his alignment.

Fake buzzzzzzzz buzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

MacDougall wrote:Scotty is bad too.

Wilgy is probably not bad but I still want to lynch him because otherwise he's gonna get lynched at lylo and lose us the game.

MacDougall wrote:Lol Scotty is probably Mafia so this is going to end poorly.

MacDougall wrote:Zebra your turnaround on your read of me is bizarre. Your entire game has been wishy washy and you've shifted positions so many times that I cannot trust you.

Explain to me how you're a civ here?

I don't know whether he'd throw his teammate under the bus. I know I'm good, so that may be a good look for zebra as well.

His calling Nacho a framer and then subsequently calling him his only civ read is perplexing again. May have to revisit that.

But this post strikes me as a bit perplexing because I think he sounds brutally honest. And hinting that he may actually be the last pirate alive:

MacDougall wrote:It's unfortunate that all three of us are still alive because me being apathetic to my own lynch is likely to lose us the game now. So fuck you all for making me have to do stuff.

Which would explain his desperation at the end of his life that we hadn't seen before. Is this someone who still has teammates alive??

Snow Dog wrote:

Scotty wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:Scotty. You think LC saved himself?

Yes

Long Con wrote:Oops, looks like I had a banana or two in my pocket after all! BIH Macdougall.

I reckon he had help.

i reckon the browns will win a game eventually too

Here's Mac's last minute ploy to not get lynched:

MacDougall wrote:Dr Wilgy choosing to defer the decision to Scotty by tying me up with an OMGUS vote is also not a good look for him. Oh wait, he's not read his role card so that's an unfair statement to make. Guess he's impervious to suspicion. But, not a policy lynch. Okay.

In case I go here's my reads.

Zebra - Null
Wilgy - Who the fuck knows
Long Con - Null
Nacho - Civ
Scotty - Null
Snow Dog - Null
Vompatti - Who the fuck knows

The fact that myself, Wilgy and Vompatti have lasted this long in the game is a joke really. I've played like a complete idiot, Wilgy didn't read his role card and Vompatti. An indictment against The Syndicate this game has been.

Honestly I think the only thing I am confident of is Nacho being a civ. Wilgy and Vompatti should be lynched on principle. If I had to list the rest from most to least likely to be Mafia I would say Zebra, Scotty, Long Con and Snow Dog.

Sorry zebra, i stand corrected. Mac had one civ read in Nacho. Though that is unexplained here. Dunno what that says about him. I think it's probably a good look.

Mac has been wanting Wilgy lynched for days. That's still a quandary, because Wilgy wasn't really in danger of being lynched. This is more a policy ploy and could be distancing.
Zebra, LC, me and Snow Dog all had "nulls" and he didn't even bother to lump Wilgy and vomps with us.
He said least likely on that list of bills was Snow Dog, which isn't indicative, but it's probably not a good look for him either.

Zebra, you probably had the weirdest voting breakdown yesterday IMO:

a2thezebra wrote:I'll vote for one of Scotty or Snow Dog, whoever has a better chance of getting lynched tomorrow. I won't vote MacDougall, I don't think he would risk missing that many votes and contributing this little in general as a baddie. He's not a risk-taker.

a2thezebra wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:Marmot Friend...

I'll always remember you. I'll keep you close in my heart as always.

Snow Dog, why should I lynch Scotty instead of you?

Scotty, why should I lynch Snow Dog instead of you?

Snow Dog. I currently oppose a LC lynch. While it may be needed in the future, now is not the time.

Don'y lynch Scotty or me. I feel he is civ and I know I am.

Why is now not the time?

Don't try to fight this. It's you or him, there are no other options.

a2thezebra wrote:

Long Con wrote:Please do not lynch me. There is not even a single good case against me, why the hell are you putting my name out there like I'm a baddie? I can't talk much now because I'm currently driving, and I'm working until another 5 hours are up. Take off your blinders and stop tunnelling me, I'm a Civ goddammit!

*votes Long Con*

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a2thezebra wrote:If I voted for Mac, it would be a policy lynch vote. And my distaste for policy lynches outweighs my distaste for his behavior.

She blatantly limits herself to either Snowdog or me for the lynch, votes Long Con without mentioning why or mentioning him before this, and continues to defend Mac on every point.

One thing I am very confident about: LC and zebra are not on the same team. And zebra realllly didn't want to vote Mac. Whether that's nefarious defending or just bad luck I can't tell

a2thezebra wrote:

Long Con wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:

Long Con wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:

Long Con wrote: Understand that I know that I'm a Civ. Therefore the only two possibilities are that Scotty is bad, and he's working some great mojo against me... or that Scotty is Civ, and the baddies have done a great job fooling him.

So, if you're civ, then you have no responsibility in people reading you as bad? GTFO

That's a weird thing to say. I never claimed that. I have taken full responsibility for every single time that someone has stated why they read me as bad, either by explaining why they're wrong, or by owning up to it.

You claimed that by making the assertion that the only way for Scotty to not be civ and to be reading you as a baddie is if the baddies have done a "great job" fooling him. You really think the baddies had to have done a great job at fooling anyone into thinking you're bad if you aren't? (you are)

(no I'm not)

Actually, I was thinking that the baddies have done a great job of convincing him that they are Civs, not that I am bad. A surfeit of Civ reads is the problem people are having with this game. It's been discussed.

That's odd, I currently have zero civ reads.

Zero? That's odd. Mac also had 0 civ reads.

I at least think vomps looks civ as fuck on paper. You are up there in probably civs based on voting.

Long Con wrote:

Scotty wrote:

Long Con wrote:

Scotty wrote:woah mate. First of all, I didn't know you were voice to texting. Although that sound easier and safer than how I usually do. Epi gets on my ass all the time because I tended to mafia-and-drive, which is only a step above drinking and driving. How can I say that I expected better content? Because a good majority of my content in games about 6 months ago were done while driving or at a stop light. I'm Not proud of it but I know it's possible.

Ok, fine, I could have risen to the challenge and posted better content on the go, instead of waiting for the most part for another 5 hours when I was home. I thought the best decision was to get a quick thing in that let people know when I'd be back to post more in-depth, and to not vote for me, at least until that point. I still think it was the right decision, and that your accusation of "hollow and rushed" is wholly inappropriate, given that the intention of that post was not to give an in-depth, carefully thought out communication. I'm pretty sure it's not out of line to say that that should have been completely obvious.

"wholly inappropriate is a strong term". That was how i saw it. I've made those types of posts before, when my back is against a wall. I've been bad in some of those instances.

And the fact that you attack that one single post with the accusation "hollow and rushed", after you completely ignore my posts directly to you that are carefully thought-out and complete, just blows my mind. Vompatti, zebra, Mac, Wilgy... and I'm the one you accuse of "hollow, rushed posts"? Get outta here.

thats not what you meant and you know it. You were inferencing that he should have been assumed civ before the reveal so don't even give me that.

Scotty, you are completely wrong. Read the damn post again. See, "silly Llama ?" Why do you think I said that? Could it be, uh, that I was referring to Llama's accidental reveal of MM's role? Hmm? You're too busy tunnelling me and telling me what I know to even take a simple look at the context.

I don't think I'll ever get on the same page about this. I read it again. I see it. It says "obviously." But not in the syntax that you're explaining it. Yes, I could be harping on a simple joke but your explanation is mind boggling. Once again, it wasn't obvious until llama pointed out that it was obvious. You said it like we should have known all along that it was obvious and his reveal should have been of no surprise. I don't take kindly to others biting their thumbs.

Now it could be that I'm just not good at picking that up this game and I'm letting it get to my head. I don't know if you read my voting pattern post but im not doing so well.

either I fucked up or I made a great decision. As you said, it's called the game of mafia.

But of course. There's winning, there's playin' chumps, and there's gettin' played. You are in one of the latter two categories, I just won't know which until endgame.

Another attempt to make me feel inferior. And you had bananas to use anyway so this is just an attempt to make me feel shitty

Hey. Bro. I want nothing to do with your feelings. Because I like you and I think you're cool, I'll tell you that I don't believe you're inferior and shitty. I'm not in the business of feelings. I'm just stating facts. View them dispassionately, and if you don't like the conclusions, it's never too late to change your mind about things.

Understand that I know that I'm a Civ. Therefore the only two possibilities are that Scotty is bad, and he's working some great mojo against me... or that Scotty is Civ, and the baddies have done a great job fooling him. Either you are playin' chumps, or you are gettin' played, Scotty. If you're playing chumps, then you probably don't feel inferior or shitty right now, because it's going pretty well. Hmm... well, less well than before Soneji and Mac got lynched, but whatever.

The important thing is, if you are getting played, and if that's a condition that might trigger some negative emotions, the only thing I can tell you is: stop getting played. Let's lynch someone who's not me today. Snow Dog changed his mind about me because he can see the truth in my posts, I implore you to do the same.

I'm going to try and have a look at Mac's posts and make some notes to post before the night is over. Scotty, I'm sorry I was harsh, it only stemmed from a frustration that came from an honest place.

Hey man, I'm sorry I may have lashed out as well. I'm a little on edge for RL reasons and I'm doing my best not to let that leak into thread.

My biggest concern going forward is not that I feel like I've been chumped, but that I have certain hang ups on certain people (MM being a prime example). I dont want to give the mafia credit until end game on whether or not I've been played. When I'm confident on something and it is revealed that I was wrong i either get the wind in my sails knocked out or I start getting snippy (or whatever it is my emotions are ). I'd like to think, for instance, that you are bad and I'm not getting played. Because I won't know if I'm getting played until I'm getting played, so sometimes I just have to play my own game, ya dig?

I don't know whether that eliminated the pirates or not but I do feel like we're in a good place even if we have 1 mislynch right now.

Snow Dog wrote:Scotty. You think LC saved himself?

Yes

Long Con wrote:Oops, looks like I had a banana or two in my pocket after all! BIH Macdougall.

Long Con wrote:

Scotty wrote:woah mate. First of all, I didn't know you were voice to texting. Although that sound easier and safer than how I usually do. Epi gets on my ass all the time because I tended to mafia-and-drive, which is only a step above drinking and driving. How can I say that I expected better content? Because a good majority of my content in games about 6 months ago were done while driving or at a stop light. I'm Not proud of it but I know it's possible.

Ok, fine, I could have risen to the challenge and posted better content on the go, instead of waiting for the most part for another 5 hours when I was home. I thought the best decision was to get a quick thing in that let people know when I'd be back to post more in-depth, and to not vote for me, at least until that point. I still think it was the right decision, and that your accusation of "hollow and rushed" is wholly inappropriate, given that the intention of that post was not to give an in-depth, carefully thought out communication. I'm pretty sure it's not out of line to say that that should have been completely obvious.

"wholly inappropriate is a strong term". That was how i saw it. I've made those types of posts before, when my back is against a wall. I've been bad in some of those instances.

And the fact that you attack that one single post with the accusation "hollow and rushed", after you completely ignore my posts directly to you that are carefully thought-out and complete, just blows my mind. Vompatti, zebra, Mac, Wilgy... and I'm the one you accuse of "hollow, rushed posts"? Get outta here.

thats not what you meant and you know it. You were inferencing that he should have been assumed civ before the reveal so don't even give me that.

Scotty, you are completely wrong. Read the damn post again. See, "silly Llama ?" Why do you think I said that? Could it be, uh, that I was referring to Llama's accidental reveal of MM's role? Hmm? You're too busy tunnelling me and telling me what I know to even take a simple look at the context.

I don't think I'll ever get on the same page about this. I read it again. I see it. It says "obviously." But not in the syntax that you're explaining it. Yes, I could be harping on a simple joke but your explanation is mind boggling. Once again, it wasn't obvious until llama pointed out that it was obvious. You said it like we should have known all along that it was obvious and his reveal should have been of no surprise. I don't take kindly to others biting their thumbs.

Now it could be that I'm just not good at picking that up this game and I'm letting it get to my head. I don't know if you read my voting pattern post but im not doing so well.

either I fucked up or I made a great decision. As you said, it's called the game of mafia.

But of course. There's winning, there's playin' chumps, and there's gettin' played. You are in one of the latter two categories, I just won't know which until endgame.

Another attempt to make me feel inferior. And you had bananas to use anyway so this is just an attempt to make me feel shitty

@wilgy
Before, you said there were probably 3 mafia left. Now probably 2, I'm assume?

Which 2 do you think are still alive?

Vompatti wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:Whatever I am glad LS survived as I should have voted for Mac any way.

Why?

I also agree with this, Snow Dog? What has made you switch your mind on LC? Remember there are two baddie teams

Well with our 3rd pirate lynched, do we think they're all dead now? Guess we'll see after this night..

@LLAMA Will you inform us if a team has been eliminated, or are we left high and dry like a flightless bird on a telephone pole?

Long Con wrote:Oops, looks like I had a banana or two in my pocket after all! BIH Macdougall. Was that a secret role, or was he the Pirate Leaders and Llama just called him Important Pirate?

Snow Dog wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:Don't worry LC. You may yet survive.

DrWilgy wrote: Snow dog's quote here is the least genuine thing I think I've read.

Thanks for the optimism, Snow Dog, I was very concerned that there might be some counter-groggery going on, and I would end up dead despite healthy banana eating.

Well done LC. lol when all else fails, use a banana.

But here's the thing...

I stand by my vote and still think you could still be bad. That you saved yourself and killed a pirate tells me nothing because I already thought you were a cannibal, which is why I voted you over Mac in the first place.

DrWilgy wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:It is in your best interest to co-operate.

It really is. Now Snow Dog, play devils advocate and throw dirt on Scotty if you have to. I will vote for one of you two as I'm 80% sure that lynching LC will not end a baddie faction.

Why should we be throwing dirt at each other? And what specifically made you 80% sure he isn't bad?

DrWilgy wrote:

Scotty wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:I believe this vote spread confirms my suspicion. Scotty and Snow Dog are both baddies.

Another reason why I didn't vote for Mac is I AGREE with his thoughts on you, Wilgy. Why are we partners? Where does Mac fit into it? How many baddies do you think are left? And have you checked your role yet?

Mainly because Snow Dog won't play devil's advocate. A civ mindset would be open to expressing even slight causes concern as even if it was damn near nonexistent. Civs don't know who to trust.

Mac doesn't fit into it. He's unrelated.

Probably 3

Nope.

Scotty wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:Don't worry LC. You may yet survive.

It's true. Grog could be in play.

And you back him up here after my question hasn't been answered.
Snow dog's quote here is the least genuine thing I think I've read. Why would someone point this out to someone that they voted for? Also why would someone point this out to someone they voted for, when they wouldn't play devil's advocate when asked?

MM expressed a very strong read of Epi as civ and no one gave him flack. Just playing devil's advocate here.

And Why is that not genuine? He's right. It's a known mechanic in the game that votes can be manipulated with items. I think it fairly obvious so I was clarifying

Snow Dog wrote:Don't worry LC. You may yet survive.

It's true. Grog could be in play.