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by Scotty
Mon Dec 26, 2016 2:41 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: GY!BE Mafia [E.N.D.]
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Re: GY!BE Mafia [E.N.D.]

MovingPictures07 wrote:
Golden wrote:A lot of things surprised me in this game. G-Man's lynch for one, MP had a legitimate derpclear. Why Trice was suddenly taking a whole lot of heat I never quite understood (or whether it was for correct reasons). Basically after I was voted out the game became more and more unfathomable as I tore my hair out screaming WHY AREN'T YOU LYNCHING JAY AND DOM!!!!
Between my replacement getting lynched and everyone in and outside of the game in Lost Again thinking that I was mafia, I'm convinced nearly everyone on this site can't read me for shit. :beer:
MP don't even try - everyone knows you're bad
by Scotty
Sat Dec 24, 2016 9:03 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: GY!BE Mafia [E.N.D.]
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Re: GY!BE Mafia [E.N.D.]

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Does that mean I was lynched or I win? :scared:
You cannot die!

Gg JJJ. Even after being labeled and basically confirmed SK at day 4, they let you live! So good work- you deserve it!
by Scotty
Mon Dec 19, 2016 2:24 am
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: GY!BE Mafia [E.N.D.]
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Views: 68570

Re: [Day 7] GY!BE Mafia

Hello everyone, my name is Scotty and I am most definitely dead.

I'm still dead and just checking out.

Thanks for the game, Rico!
by Scotty
Sun Dec 18, 2016 2:50 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: GY!BE Mafia [E.N.D.]
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Views: 68570

Re: [Day 6] GY!BE Mafia

Epignosis wrote:
Scotty wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
timmer wrote:Epig, is there a reason you are waiting to vote?
There was, but not really anymore.
Were you holding your vote to see if you needed to save your partner, BWT?
This is really stupid.

Votes are changeable. If I need to save someone, I can change my vote. Do you see how that works. :rolleyes:
Scotty wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
timmer wrote:I haven't been throwing doubts on MM, I've been saying he's civ?
He said I was "throwing doubts" on MM and BWT. My opinion was that MM was bad and that BWT was good. I interpreted "throwing doubts" as saying it was a bad lynch.
What about BWT specifically is making you feel so confident in his goodness?
And why didn't you vote for MM, who you are sure is bad, instead of casually throwing a useless vote on JJJ last second?
I'd save BWT even if he wasn't my partner. I've done it before. Dude gets lynched Day 1 even in a fucking sockpuppet game. I feel bad for him, and he seemed to be really having a go at this one. I don't really care about his alignment. I'm happy he has had a chance to actually play a game past Day 2.

I am not confident in BWT's goodness, and I am not sure MM is bad.

How was my 3J vote casual and last second? I said I was going to vote 3J a long time ago but took my time in thinking about it. I voted when I did because that's when I voted. Your vote was casual and last second.

Is there any purpose to your questioning, Scotty?
So it sounds like the only reason you're sticking your neck out for BWT is that he gets lynched early all the time? I agree that he doesn't last that long, but if he's bad, we gotta gitterdone.

"I don't really care about his alignment"
O rly. Then what are you trying to do in this game if not look for bad guys? If your "friend" showed up one day after having been away for years and demands you give him 20k for a surefire investment in the swamps, would you do it? He always gets a bad wrap for making bad investments, but he seems so earnest this time around, why not right?

Why did you wait to vote all day? If you were ultimately going to pile on to JJJ at the end?
My vote was hardly casual. Maybe last second, sure. You left the door open for a while when you said you were still thinking.

I think you're messier than usual this game, Epi.
by Scotty
Sat Dec 17, 2016 10:43 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: GY!BE Mafia [E.N.D.]
Replies: 3511
Views: 68570

Re: [Night 6] GY!BE Mafia

Would it be unbalanced to think that the SK would have one lynch stop?

do we think that the same role has a mechanism that is stopping these lynches or 2 separate lynch stops on 2 separate factions?

I'm in the camp that MM is a civ with a lynch stop and JJJ is in another camp with a lynch stop.
by Scotty
Sat Dec 17, 2016 10:37 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: GY!BE Mafia [E.N.D.]
Replies: 3511
Views: 68570

Re: [Day 6] GY!BE Mafia

Epignosis wrote:
Scotty wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Scotty wrote:if BWT hasn't posted since Monday and isn't doing the killing, what about his partner?

If bwt is bad, then Epi is probably his partner.

Voting JJJ because too many people are decrying voting BWT. But see, he has had all this time to ask for a replacement and hasn't done it. If he looks bad, waiting for him to respond will only be an excuse for so long before it's just time to lynch him.

I would say the same for me if it came down to it and I hadn't responded to the mob
No wait, fuck Laconic humor.

If you really believe bird is bad, you should still be voting him. Why aren't you? And why the hell are you saying I'm bad if he is? Man up and stick to your guns. Don't bitch out and make a little bullshit statement you can hold on to afterward regardless of the result.
I believe them both to be bad. You really are the most vocal I think in calling for us to not lynch BWT, so it just makes sense that you're throwing shade around.
What does "throwing shade around" mean?

I am stating my opinions and calling people out for what I believe to be bad or insincere thinking.
You answered your own question.

Do you think I am insincere in my thinking?
by Scotty
Sat Dec 17, 2016 10:33 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: GY!BE Mafia [E.N.D.]
Replies: 3511
Views: 68570

Re: [Day 6] GY!BE Mafia

Epignosis wrote:
timmer wrote:Epig, is there a reason you are waiting to vote?
There was, but not really anymore.
Were you holding your vote to see if you needed to save your partner, BWT?
Epignosis wrote:
timmer wrote:I haven't been throwing doubts on MM, I've been saying he's civ?
He said I was "throwing doubts" on MM and BWT. My opinion was that MM was bad and that BWT was good. I interpreted "throwing doubts" as saying it was a bad lynch.
What about BWT specifically is making you feel so confident in his goodness?
And why didn't you vote for MM, who you are sure is bad, instead of casually throwing a useless vote on JJJ last second?
by Scotty
Sat Dec 17, 2016 10:30 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: GY!BE Mafia [E.N.D.]
Replies: 3511
Views: 68570

Re: [Day 6] GY!BE Mafia

timmer wrote:Scotty, do you feel BWT is a baddie?

Do you feel JJJ is the SK?

Which do you think is more sure, and why?
BWT as bad for disengeunous posting. Quin actually brought up a chunk of posts that I remember seeing but didn't go back to link to that were quite noteworthy, so thanks for that Quin.

I don't understand why JJJ seems to be the concensus SK but i voted there because everyone else seems convinced
by Scotty
Sat Dec 17, 2016 10:27 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: GY!BE Mafia [E.N.D.]
Replies: 3511
Views: 68570

Re: [Day 6] GY!BE Mafia

Epignosis wrote:
Scotty wrote:if BWT hasn't posted since Monday and isn't doing the killing, what about his partner?

If bwt is bad, then Epi is probably his partner.

Voting JJJ because too many people are decrying voting BWT. But see, he has had all this time to ask for a replacement and hasn't done it. If he looks bad, waiting for him to respond will only be an excuse for so long before it's just time to lynch him.

I would say the same for me if it came down to it and I hadn't responded to the mob
No wait, fuck Laconic humor.

If you really believe bird is bad, you should still be voting him. Why aren't you? And why the hell are you saying I'm bad if he is? Man up and stick to your guns. Don't bitch out and make a little bullshit statement you can hold on to afterward regardless of the result.
I believe them both to be bad. You really are the most vocal I think in calling for us to not lynch BWT, so it just makes sense that you're throwing shade around.
by Scotty
Sat Dec 17, 2016 10:25 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: GY!BE Mafia [E.N.D.]
Replies: 3511
Views: 68570

Re: [Night 6] GY!BE Mafia

Wtf is going on.

And ha Epi got pretty incensed to quote the same post in 3 separate posts just to call bullshit on me. Was it something I said?


@Rico
What does it mean to "treble" the vote?
by Scotty
Sat Dec 17, 2016 8:06 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: GY!BE Mafia [E.N.D.]
Replies: 3511
Views: 68570

Re: [Day 6] GY!BE Mafia

Also I see Epi as a moderate mafia read now regardless. I don't think with the current mock-up of people left that the mafia wants the SK gone just quite yet. Throwing doubts on MM, and on BWT, is a very subtle way to appear baddie-hunting while not actually doing so.
by Scotty
Sat Dec 17, 2016 7:57 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: GY!BE Mafia [E.N.D.]
Replies: 3511
Views: 68570

Re: [Day 6] GY!BE Mafia

if BWT hasn't posted since Monday and isn't doing the killing, what about his partner?

If bwt is bad, then Epi is probably his partner.

Voting JJJ because too many people are decrying voting BWT. But see, he has had all this time to ask for a replacement and hasn't done it. If he looks bad, waiting for him to respond will only be an excuse for so long before it's just time to lynch him.

I would say the same for me if it came down to it and I hadn't responded to the mob
by Scotty
Sat Dec 17, 2016 5:45 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: GY!BE Mafia [E.N.D.]
Replies: 3511
Views: 68570

Re: [Day 6] GY!BE Mafia

Voted BWT. Want to see how this shakes out before EoD in a few hours, should I be on US soil by then and use my phone. Canada's been nice this week but not having cell service sucks donkey ass
by Scotty
Sat Dec 17, 2016 5:42 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: GY!BE Mafia [E.N.D.]
Replies: 3511
Views: 68570

Re: [Day 6] GY!BE Mafia

I'm currently on a ferry somewhere between Vancouver and a port in Washington, i don't have service and have been using this shitty wifi which takes 10 minutes to load a page.

I'm caught up-
I will be voting BWT or JJJ today but would rather lynch a mafia than the SK right now if I had a choice. The convenes is JJJ being the SK, which I'm actually confused as to why timer would call it a "slam dunk". I know it has been explained but I'm a little slow and still don't get it. Because I'm basically Casper this game I don't feel like losing a potential civ voice yet is our best option. If JJJ is civ, then lynching him eouornsuck, and the capable addition of Quin, who I firmly think is doing a great civ look, will most likely get killed in the night (he would if I were bad). So I'd rather vote out a mafia member.

I think that's BWT
by Scotty
Fri Dec 16, 2016 2:11 am
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: GY!BE Mafia [E.N.D.]
Replies: 3511
Views: 68570

Re: [Day 6] GY!BE Mafia

More importantly, did we just skip a night phase?
by Scotty
Thu Dec 15, 2016 8:03 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: GY!BE Mafia [E.N.D.]
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Views: 68570

Re: [Day 5] GY!BE Mafia

I think MM chose to let himself be lynched to show us that he had the power to stop it. I would think that is a more civ move. I don't find trice fishy at all right now.
by Scotty
Thu Dec 15, 2016 8:02 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: GY!BE Mafia [E.N.D.]
Replies: 3511
Views: 68570

Re: [Day 5] GY!BE Mafia

Trice is in line to get lynched and I don't like it.

Where the rest of the votes at? We have 30 minutes and for once, I'm around for a hot second
by Scotty
Thu Dec 15, 2016 7:49 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: GY!BE Mafia [E.N.D.]
Replies: 3511
Views: 68570

Re: [Day 5] GY!BE Mafia

Quin wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Quin wrote:Where did the assumption that some role can mimic powers begin? That's too specific for me to not want to look into.
I can't recall the specific moment it originated if that's your meaning. The idea stems from the high prevalence of players being insanified in some way or another, often a varying amount each day phase. If there's not more than one role doing that as an origin power, it'd suggest there's a mimicking power of some kind.

It's pretty speculative.
Okay. I guess a mimicking role isn't such an out there assumption to make then.

I'm going to throw my vote on Scotty today. I hate myself for doing it but I just haven't done anything reading-wise that makes one lynch favorable to another, and I don't want to make a choice between the main wagons just because.
Then vote yourself or don't vote. Why is it on me
by Scotty
Thu Dec 15, 2016 7:48 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: GY!BE Mafia [E.N.D.]
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Views: 68570

Re: [Day 5] GY!BE Mafia

timmer wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:For what it's worth I don't recall seeing BWT or sig around here this phase, posting in this game or otherwise.
I thought someone said they saw him lurking?
I did in fact see him lurking yesterday.
by Scotty
Thu Dec 15, 2016 2:46 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: GY!BE Mafia [E.N.D.]
Replies: 3511
Views: 68570

Re: [Day 5] GY!BE Mafia

On the flip to side voting for someone who possibly can't respond is- if my mind was already headed in that direction, I'm sorta kinda wanting to vote there anyway, and it's not even something he can respond to. It's the way he has operated in my read throughs. It's like stuff would happen and as I was reading like 10 pages behind his posts would seem insincere and stick out like a sore thumb.

Ima put a bandaid on that thumb.

bwt

Linki: I still don't see trice as bad :shrug2:
by Scotty
Thu Dec 15, 2016 2:42 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: GY!BE Mafia [E.N.D.]
Replies: 3511
Views: 68570

Re: [Day 4] GY!BE Mafia

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Scotty wrote:I think JJJ killing Vomps N1 fits because he would be most prone to wanting to eliminate wild cards. For what it's worth.
Scotty, before I said Vomps may have been bad, what made you feel the way you did about this? Why would I be "the most prone to wanting to eliminate wild cards"?
I think of you as someone that tends to prefer a skim vanilla latte when you are bad, if you know what I mean. Less chaos = more control
by Scotty
Thu Dec 15, 2016 2:33 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: GY!BE Mafia [E.N.D.]
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Views: 68570

Re: [Day 5] GY!BE Mafia

timmer wrote:I've put a vote on BWT. It's a bit of a trial balloon, to show where I'm looking at the moment. I feel very hampered by the fact that apparently there are only 2 baddies to find (and 1 SK, even harder), with no lynched baddies to help study voting records, so I'm going on post reads for now. More to come.
We are in the same thinking boat.

I lurked for a second yesterday and saw that Bwt was online reading the thread, and found it curious that he wasn't posting to defend himself. Is it possible that there is a silencer in the civ faction that may balance out Sleep's action?

And if BWT has in fact been silenced, how many of you on his train would hesistate to vote him on the basis of honor?

I was looking to vote there too, but always feel a little shitty voting for someone possibly silenced.
by Scotty
Mon Dec 12, 2016 7:57 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: GY!BE Mafia [E.N.D.]
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Views: 68570

Re: [Day 4] GY!BE Mafia

Scotty wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Scotty wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Scotty wrote:I think JJJ killing Vomps N1 fits because he would be most prone to wanting to eliminate wild cards. For what it's worth.
There's a good chance Vompatti was scum. What does that mean to you?
??? Wait I must have missed this. Isn't there only 1 mafia team? Do you think it was the SK?
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:I'm not following the Moya stuff right now, but tbh I'm not that concerned with it. Someone can explain it to me later.
It's pretty simple I think. Sleep was one of the roles that killed Golden. Sleep doesn't have a kill until it has inherited the kill from Moya, who had it first. That doesn't happen until Moya is dead according to what we can see in the role descriptions. This suggests that Moya has died already, and the only player it can really be if so is Vompatti. The Motherfucker = Redeemer role provides an explanation for how a baddie Vompatti could have died on Night 1.
Oh wow. Ok, I can't even see on my phone where sleep killed him. I think the picture cuts off. But I'll take your word for it.

If that's the case, then never mind. I need to go back to the drawing board
Unless you're the SK, JJJ :grin:
by Scotty
Mon Dec 12, 2016 7:56 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: GY!BE Mafia [E.N.D.]
Replies: 3511
Views: 68570

Re: [Day 4] GY!BE Mafia

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Scotty wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Scotty wrote:I think JJJ killing Vomps N1 fits because he would be most prone to wanting to eliminate wild cards. For what it's worth.
There's a good chance Vompatti was scum. What does that mean to you?
??? Wait I must have missed this. Isn't there only 1 mafia team? Do you think it was the SK?
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:I'm not following the Moya stuff right now, but tbh I'm not that concerned with it. Someone can explain it to me later.
It's pretty simple I think. Sleep was one of the roles that killed Golden. Sleep doesn't have a kill until it has inherited the kill from Moya, who had it first. That doesn't happen until Moya is dead according to what we can see in the role descriptions. This suggests that Moya has died already, and the only player it can really be if so is Vompatti. The Motherfucker = Redeemer role provides an explanation for how a baddie Vompatti could have died on Night 1.
Oh wow. Ok, I can't even see on my phone where sleep killed him. I think the picture cuts off. But I'll take your word for it.

If that's the case, then never mind. I need to go back to the drawing board
by Scotty
Mon Dec 12, 2016 7:51 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: GY!BE Mafia [E.N.D.]
Replies: 3511
Views: 68570

Re: [Day 4] GY!BE Mafia

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Scotty wrote:I think JJJ killing Vomps N1 fits because he would be most prone to wanting to eliminate wild cards. For what it's worth.
There's a good chance Vompatti was scum. What does that mean to you?
??? Wait I must have missed this. Isn't there only 1 mafia team? Do you think it was the SK?
by Scotty
Mon Dec 12, 2016 7:49 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: GY!BE Mafia [E.N.D.]
Replies: 3511
Views: 68570

Re: [Day 4] GY!BE Mafia

I think JJJ killing Vomps N1 fits because he would be most prone to wanting to eliminate wild cards. For what it's worth.
by Scotty
Mon Dec 12, 2016 7:48 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: GY!BE Mafia [E.N.D.]
Replies: 3511
Views: 68570

Re: [Day 4] GY!BE Mafia

MovingPictures07 wrote:
birdwithteeth11 wrote:I'm actually of the opinion that Trice has accomplished one of the ultimate cases of tunneling. Because I just don't see the odds on JJJ being bad to be that great.
Why?

My tinfoil read right now is you and JJJ as teammates. This kind of rhetoric doesn't help.
FINALLY something we agree on
by Scotty
Mon Dec 12, 2016 7:47 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: GY!BE Mafia [E.N.D.]
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Views: 68570

Re: [Day 4] GY!BE Mafia

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Scotty wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Scotty wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:I don't want to lynch Trice or JJJ. I want to lynch Scotty. Let's do it.
Low hanging fruit, Mp.
You are low hanging fruit? Bullshit.
No, it's not bullshit and you know it.

Also I changed my vote to MM
"You know it" is the same kind of sharp language that bugged me from your earlier content, Scotty. What about you do you believe makes you a low-hanging fruit?
I haven't been around for shit and my terse responses are a perfect set-up for my lynch.

I'm sorry it bugged you. I think.

Linki: @BWT I had a suspicion of you from day 1 (my day 1 vote), but I don't remember why. I'll need to revisit but I don't trust you.
by Scotty
Mon Dec 12, 2016 7:41 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: GY!BE Mafia [E.N.D.]
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Views: 68570

Re: [Day 4] GY!BE Mafia

If MM flips bad, let's lynch MP next kthnx
by Scotty
Mon Dec 12, 2016 7:38 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: GY!BE Mafia [E.N.D.]
Replies: 3511
Views: 68570

Re: [Day 4] GY!BE Mafia

MovingPictures07 wrote:
Scotty wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:I honestly am town reading Trice still. I think he's just gotten himself into an aggressive and tunneling mindset. This is the Trice meta I remember.
I also view trice as good
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Scotty wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:I don't want to lynch Trice or JJJ. I want to lynch Scotty. Let's do it.
Low hanging fruit, Mp.
You are low hanging fruit? Bullshit.
No, it's not bullshit and you know it.

Also I changed my vote to MM
You've been in catchup mode for days, you barely have contributed anything upon the chances you have had to post, and now you come in and drop the laziest vote ever on the second highest vote wagon, JJJ, for bunk reasons. "He's leading us astray". That's nonsense. Everyone is accountable for their own votes.
Correct, I have been in catch-up mode for days. You of all people can relate.

Lazy vote? It's not like that vote was out of nowhere. My very first post of the game was suspecting JJJ.

And is it nonsense? I guess the only way to know is to lynch him. You and JJJ are FUCKING HARD to lynch IMO because of literally the quantity of your posts raining down like fire when you're suspected. Could it be I just think there's some tomfoolery? I'm always on my phone and my thumbs are only so fast. And I've got to catch a plane.

Yes, everyone is accountable for their votes. I never said otherwise. I didn't vote yesterday mainly because I didn't feel comfortable jumping in and placing a lazy vote. Today? Not lazyz
by Scotty
Mon Dec 12, 2016 7:34 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: GY!BE Mafia [E.N.D.]
Replies: 3511
Views: 68570

Re: [Day 4] GY!BE Mafia

MovingPictures07 wrote:Scotty is bad.
No, I'm behind.
by Scotty
Mon Dec 12, 2016 7:33 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: GY!BE Mafia [E.N.D.]
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Views: 68570

Re: [Day 4] GY!BE Mafia

Boomslang wrote:Fun fact: Lorab only started posting in "sad" and "sadness" acronyms after Trice used the Donald Trump syntax.
triceratopzeuhl wrote:Crooked Epignosis thinks he can keep throwing whoppers after a civvie insanified him, sad!
I have no idea if that means anything, but it's just funky enough that it tickles my brain.

Linki w/MP: And my half-baked theory is that Trice triggered Lorab's curse with that post.
Linki w/MP2: Uh, starting a lynch this late? Do you really not believe in either of the big trains going right now, or are you conveniently copping out of culpability?
Linki w/Scotty: DAMMIT I TYPE SLOW
Could it be that trice is in fact a civvy insanifier?
by Scotty
Mon Dec 12, 2016 7:32 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: GY!BE Mafia [E.N.D.]
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Views: 68570

Re: [Day 4] GY!BE Mafia

MovingPictures07 wrote:I honestly am town reading Trice still. I think he's just gotten himself into an aggressive and tunneling mindset. This is the Trice meta I remember.
I also view trice as good
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Scotty wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:I don't want to lynch Trice or JJJ. I want to lynch Scotty. Let's do it.
Low hanging fruit, Mp.
You are low hanging fruit? Bullshit.
No, it's not bullshit and you know it.

Also I changed my vote to MM
by Scotty
Mon Dec 12, 2016 7:31 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: GY!BE Mafia [E.N.D.]
Replies: 3511
Views: 68570

Re: [Day 4] GY!BE Mafia

MovingPictures07 wrote:I don't want to lynch Trice or JJJ. I want to lynch Scotty. Let's do it.
Low hanging fruit, Mp.
by Scotty
Mon Dec 12, 2016 7:30 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: GY!BE Mafia [E.N.D.]
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Views: 68570

Re: [Day 4] GY!BE Mafia

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Have you read anything else, Scotty?
I'm now 4 pages behind
by Scotty
Mon Dec 12, 2016 7:30 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: GY!BE Mafia [E.N.D.]
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Views: 68570

Re: [Day 4] GY!BE Mafia

timmer wrote:Also of note, Golden was targeted for death and he was one of the people suspecting and voting MM yesterday.
:ponder:

You do bring up a good point, timmer. I still think it odd that MM has changed up his early game for hunt for baddies. Why change it up now?
by Scotty
Mon Dec 12, 2016 7:28 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: GY!BE Mafia [E.N.D.]
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Views: 68570

Re: [Day 4] GY!BE Mafia

ive been traveling to Canada all day today and am currently waiting for a connection flight to...somewhere. I don't even know what time zone im in right now. Halp.
triceratopzeuhl wrote:
triceratopzeuhl wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I'm putting a vote on Scotty.
What is your reason for this?
Is it that he hasn't answered this post?
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I'm going to restate my primary Scotty beefs for Scotty himself whenever he is available.
Spoiler: show
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:~ Scotty's efforts to communicate with Golden and facilitate his involvement in the continuing dialogue was a decent look. I was able to work with the methods they employed myself, though perhaps with less clarity. I appreciate that he provided Golden with a forum to convey his reads when at the time I believe he was not in Golden's good graces. I do have some lingering concern though primarily centered in one post:
Scotty wrote:
Golden wrote:I don't really have time to do a full catch up, just enough to see that (I assume) inh was good.

I don't much like the epi votes. Except maybe trice's one.

I also really don't like scotty basically being like 'told you guys'. Calling your shot on someone being civilian is the easiest thing to do in the world since a) most people are and b) all baddies have an even higher percentage shot of being right (in this case 15/16); but

c) bragging about it afterwards is the equivalent of discrediting a load of people, even when at least half of them are town, and d) not only does it discredit, but it also puts the focus squarely on 'who voted for a civilian to die' instead of 'who is bad' which are not necessarily the same thing.

I'll be all for looking to see if any inh votes are uninspired. But when I last looked, there were four and all of them felt fair and well explained in the thread to me.
What??! How is "well there ya go" in any way "I told you guys"? How is that bragging about it? Show me where I bragged about you all being wrong.

Now you're just putting words in my mouth and manipulating this away from you and the other INH voters so you don't have to take responsibility for your votes. Yes, civs make the wrong votes all the time. Of course they do. But I already feel like you, JJJ, Sloonei and Mp have all come after me on day 1 for bullsuit reasons and I find it manipulative. Couple that with the fact that I don't trust you guys, makes me think at least 1 or a couple of you might be bad. Just because I haven't had a tennis match where I've spewed 5028 posts in the matter of 24 hours doesn't mean I can't make reads off of votes.

I didn't know INH was gonna flip good, but I definitely didn't think he would flip bad. So get off your high horse, golden.

Love, Scotty :cloud9:
Yellow: hyperbolic/exaggerated language looks insincere at face value.

Orange: this is an accusation, and it implies to me that Scotty is suspicious of Golden now for two reasons: contributing to the INH lynch, and "manipulating the conversation away from INH voters". This is something Scotty didn't follow up on, and that makes me question the motive for cramming it into this response in the first place. I think the suspicion inherent in this language is pretty clear, and that he didn't proceed with it (indeed he became Golden's communicative aid in Day 2) raises doubts that it was honest. The alternative explanation is less ideal: that he turned Golden's accusation against him as a defense mechanism with intent to discredit his accuser.

I would also assert the orange bit and the second yellow bit go together awkwardly. If Golden is on a "high horse", that would imply he is overconfident about a read, not falsifying a read. The difference is important, as it relates directly to alignment.

Green: this just has its own discrediting power given its vaguely critical language.

Scotty, please talk about those things.
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JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I could also consider voting for Scotty.
Scotty wrote:I'm way behind everyone. Like 12 pages behind. Looks like no one died?

Will Do my best to catch up.
Scotty wrote:I'm still not caught up. 5 or so more pages to read.. I see JJJ has a little case breakdown that I skimmed. Eventually I'll get around to answering it.

I never said my vote was forced. LoRab decided that. I have calmed my jets on a few people I had recently suspected. I'm actually feeling better about Golden, and Mp. I think BWT is still suspicious? Why? I forgot. But he said some stuff some some time ago that was phrased in a weird way that perked uo ym ears like Pluto. Sloon is on neutral ground. Slight mafia still on JJJ. I don't think he was faking his curse, I just think his curser was just unimaginative.

I'm way behind. Long day, may not get around to this until tomorrow at the earliest. Blech my mafia time where did it go???
To fall behind sometimes is understandable. Life happens. However, I don't get the impression Scotty has much urgency to involve himself in this game even as he makes the attempt to catch up. He has given us a live-track of his status (12 pages behind, 5 pages behind), but in the process of that catchup his productivity has been scarce. I would think a town Scotty would be grabbing quotes as he reads along and sharing some kind of thoughts instead of this sort of one-off neutral commentary on what he needs to do and a few half-reads.
Hi.

JJJ wants an answer? My answer is that I was putting most of effort into the Monkey Island, which in and of itself was less time than I would like. In this game, with its early activity, quoting exact posts gets rather tedious when I'm already way behind, because I'll lose track of where I am. Kind of a cop out excuse but that's my excuse.

I don't know if the vote ends now or in a few hours honestly so I popped a vote on JJJ. I think I am with the marmot that JJJ is bad and has been leading us astray. That someone as thorough as JJJ has not produced a successful lynch is not his fault entirely, but he and the other high posters must be scrutinized. I'm not one to talk because I've been more absent than Harry Potter's parents, but if Golden wasn't bad, which it is very apparent he wasn't, then either Mp or JJJ are playing mind games with the thread. I'm willing to bet it's JjJ
by Scotty
Sun Dec 11, 2016 1:43 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: GY!BE Mafia [E.N.D.]
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Views: 68570

Re: [Day 4] GY!BE Mafia

The other game has ended so I'm putting more focus here.

Not surprised to find JJJ, who I called bad with my 1st post of the game, as voting for me. I assume it's because I haven't been around to answer. Or he's just bad. Can't tell yet.
by Scotty
Sat Dec 10, 2016 3:33 am
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: GY!BE Mafia [E.N.D.]
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Views: 68570

Re: [Night 3] GY!BE Mafia

I'm sorry I'm AWOL, and missed the vote yesterday. I've been not investing much time to this game and when I come back to catch up, I'm again pages behind. I have parents in from out of town tomorrow coupled with 4 shows this weekend and I dot yet feel like I've gotten a handle on properly reading anyone. I never want to ask for a replacement, but if I'm not caught up by tomorrow then I'll probably do so.
by Scotty
Thu Dec 08, 2016 7:56 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: GY!BE Mafia [E.N.D.]
Replies: 3511
Views: 68570

Re: [Day 3] GY!BE Mafia

Did something go bad in the kitchen or is MM trying to solve the game at an early juncture? Seems like a departure from the oddball non-transient early game Civ MM I remember..
by Scotty
Thu Dec 08, 2016 7:54 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: GY!BE Mafia [E.N.D.]
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Views: 68570

Re: [Day 3] GY!BE Mafia

I'm still not caught up. 5 or so more pages to read.. I see JJJ has a little case breakdown that I skimmed. Eventually I'll get around to answering it.

I never said my vote was forced. LoRab decided that. I have calmed my jets on a few people I had recently suspected. I'm actually feeling better about Golden, and Mp. I think BWT is still suspicious? Why? I forgot. But he said some stuff some some time ago that was phrased in a weird way that perked uo ym ears like Pluto. Sloon is on neutral ground. Slight mafia still on JJJ. I don't think he was faking his curse, I just think his curser was just unimaginative.

I'm way behind. Long day, may not get around to this until tomorrow at the earliest. Blech my mafia time where did it go???
by Scotty
Wed Dec 07, 2016 8:20 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: GY!BE Mafia [E.N.D.]
Replies: 3511
Views: 68570

Re: [Day 3] GY!BE Mafia

I'm way behind everyone. Like 12 pages behind. Looks like no one died?

Will Do my best to catch up.
by Scotty
Mon Dec 05, 2016 5:27 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: GY!BE Mafia [E.N.D.]
Replies: 3511
Views: 68570

Re: [Night 1] GY!BE Mafia

A Person wrote:
Scotty wrote:Thanks G.

As far as low posters go, A Person has only posted twice, but I must preface that I dot tag on low posters for not posting frequently, but for not posting quality posts.
A Person wrote:
Vompatti wrote:
Sloonei wrote:Over 1000 posts before Day 2. Way to go, team.
Would you believe me if I told you I wouldn't mind the mafia and/or serial killer killing all the high posters so the rest of us can keep up? :beer:
same tbh
This is his 4th of 4 posts. It was last night. It tells me he doesn't want to read the thread, and he doesn't really care what's going on. Civ behavior? I think not.
I don't have the time or energy to read all the nonsense people spew, a few well placed kills would improve the quality of the game.
Speak of him and he shall come!

Uh...

What does this mean? Listen, i agree there's been a lot of talking in here- more than usual- but this is just an odd thing to say. Are you saying we should kill the high posters?
by Scotty
Mon Dec 05, 2016 5:21 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: GY!BE Mafia [E.N.D.]
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Views: 68570

Re: [Day 2] GY!BE Mafia

I think Vomps hands good chance to be our other insanifier.

And @LoRab
I don't know who hasn't posted yet today, but there's been a few. Who knows if there are others that may be even more insane.

For now, it's just these two wild and crazy guys (tm)
by Scotty
Mon Dec 05, 2016 5:19 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: GY!BE Mafia [E.N.D.]
Replies: 3511
Views: 68570

Re: [Night 1] GY!BE Mafia

Thanks G.

As far as low posters go, A Person has only posted twice, but I must preface that I dot tag on low posters for not posting frequently, but for not posting quality posts.
A Person wrote:
Vompatti wrote:
Sloonei wrote:Over 1000 posts before Day 2. Way to go, team.
Would you believe me if I told you I wouldn't mind the mafia and/or serial killer killing all the high posters so the rest of us can keep up? :beer:
same tbh
This is his 4th of 4 posts. It was last night. It tells me he doesn't want to read the thread, and he doesn't really care what's going on. Civ behavior? I think not.
LoRab wrote:
Scotty wrote:I think that some low posters insanified Golden and JJJ
Like I said, sometimes oblivious. Now it's obvious.
Golden wrote:I hurt myself today
To see if I still feel
I focus on the pain
The only thing that's real

The needle tears a hole
The old familiar sting
Try to kill it all away
But I remember everything
I think that's a good guess as to who did it.

Of course, we now have the question of if they are a good insanifier or an evil insanifier. For the sake of balance, if there are 2, I'd venture a guess that there is one of each. Also possible that there's a mimicing role, that happened upon being able to mimic the insanifier.

Also, who hasn't posted yet?
I think that's a good guess in terms of duality. I think A Person fits that bill. And even though we already have 27 pages I feel like he is a great person to put a vote on. Just to see if he produces. And if not, then I think he looks ample bad anyway.
by Scotty
Mon Dec 05, 2016 5:05 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: GY!BE Mafia [E.N.D.]
Replies: 3511
Views: 68570

Re: [Day 2] GY!BE Mafia

Here ya go golden:
A Person
birdwithteeth11
Boomslang
Dom
DrWilgy
Epignosis
Golden
JaggedJimmyJay
LoRab
Metalmarsh89
MovingPictures07
Nijuukyugou
Scotty
sig
Sloonei
simmer
triceratopzeuhl
by Scotty
Mon Dec 05, 2016 5:02 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: GY!BE Mafia [E.N.D.]
Replies: 3511
Views: 68570

Re: [Day 2] GY!BE Mafia

JJJ I don't like that you're voting me early and have no way to say why. It sounds like you disagree with my post concerning you, but I think you're one of the most suspicious on the INH train. You started it, if I recall, and got people persuaded to follow through.

I had some time to think about Mp, and although his activity on day 0-1 was ridiculous compared to even previous games I remember I don't think that is damning.
by Scotty
Mon Dec 05, 2016 4:58 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: GY!BE Mafia [E.N.D.]
Replies: 3511
Views: 68570

Re: [Day 2] GY!BE Mafia

I think that some low posters insanified Golden and JJJ
by Scotty
Mon Dec 05, 2016 4:56 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: GY!BE Mafia [E.N.D.]
Replies: 3511
Views: 68570

Re: [Day 2] GY!BE Mafia

LoRab wrote:
Scotty wrote:
LoRab wrote:
Scotty wrote:How many damned insaifiers we got in this game? If you count Epi's weird Swedish message he's done a few times, that's 3.

Too many secrets for my liking.

Also, I'm voting LoRab.

I know she hasn't been on my radar at all and I definitely haven't been talking about her, but I took a step back and want it to be known that I'm voting her.

LoRab
Ima take that as forced vote.

And It was Icelandic--in response to an earlier joke with I can't remember who. I originally thought it was a response to Vomp's death, but Google Translate told me the language, so I checked back. Also, only 1 post. So, not likely insanified.

Who is the third?
Are you actually serious though?
Perhaps oblivious, but I blame having a cold.

And yes, I really am serious about Icelandic. And about my seriously doubting that 1 post was an insanification.
:faint:
by Scotty
Mon Dec 05, 2016 4:56 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: GY!BE Mafia [E.N.D.]
Replies: 3511
Views: 68570

Re: [Day 2] GY!BE Mafia

Golden wrote:What have I become?
This can be managed. From now on, let's form a cypher from the Loren obtuse passages.

If you mean yes, or good, (or agree) post "my sweetest friend"
If you mean no, or bad, (or disagree) post "I will let you down"
If you mean knitting, post "the needle tears a hole"

That sound good? Would it help if I post a list of people and you give GTH reads? I'm not sure of the best way to go about this but I feel it's something

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