The Syndicate

Long Con wrote:Wilgy, what did you do with your Narrator powers? Did you ever use the vote-altering side? I assume not.

I asked Llama about that power because i was attempting to use that as an excuse, and was told that we would be notified if the lynch was altered. So it doesn't look like it.

Blast!
Good game civs, and good try fellow scum for trying to cover for my blowup early. I'm still amazed Epi and Elo were able to sniff me out early on. I still legitimately don't think I have a baddie game based on such a small sample size, but I could just be shortsighted.

Man, if we had taken out MP earlier when he was actually up for a lynch, this game would have been easier.


My initial instructions were to leave a specific emoji in the first few posts on day 2, and I actually missed bea's emoji in my initial and second read, so I was convinced that maybe my message was blocked or something since 3 different people used the emoji on day 2. Next time I need to be a little more specific.

I really enjoyed my character's mechanic (even though I only used it once for real, since LC blocked me night 2...and LC and Wilgy's blustering over Natasha's seduction message was enjoyable to witness. Thanks for a fun game, llama!

indiglo wrote:Aesop, let me thank you for continuing to write these fables. I look forward to them each End of Day.

Also, when I was sending in my night PMs (all ONE of them ), I always sent in a little punny story also. In fact, even Night 2 (after being lynched) I still sent in my punny story, with no night action of course. But I had already written it, so I didn't want it to go to waste.

Maybe at the end I can post both of them. They don't give anything away, they're just punny.

the only real pun here is that moose rhymes with noose.

Also, I made a poem:
Roses are dead
Violets are potatoes
The 2000 version of Rocky and Bullwinkle sucked
The animals won

fin

Blech.

We kill Squirrel at least. We will reign supreme! Fight on, comrades! Fight the bad fight!

Long Con wrote:I voted for Wilgy. I don't think Scotty is bad. Natasha tried to seduce me to vote him on Day 3, but I was Scrooched at the same time. I thought that maybe the baddies were trying to protect Scotty by making me vote for him, but then the Scotty lynch happened anyway. If Scotty is Fearless Leader, then Boris and Natasha probably don't really want him dead.

Unless Scotty sent a message to them with instructions to try and get him lynched... for cred I guess? If you believe that, then lynch Scotty. I don't believe that. I don't believe that they can afford to lose numbers like that.

I thought that Epi might be going for the "early baddie teammate vouch" on Eloh, but then he was nightkilled. Again, it gives Elohcin some nice cred, but is it worth it with so few baddies? Probably not.

The PM from Natasha was written in a Russian accent. Like "Greetings, Lonk Con, ve vant you to doink ze vote for Scotty..." kind of stuff. It was creative, unnecessarily so. I thought maybe creative Epi would go that extra mile, but apparently not.

I have no doubt that they will kill me very soon. Probably tonight. Natasha told me not to tell anyone, so I have disobeyed on that front.

I really hope this doesn't break the rules of info dumping and get you mod killed because of it.

That's definitely interesting to note that the Mafia wanted me dead yesterday. They might just get their wish today. Unless the 3 remaining voters come together and see reason in voting Wilgy.

Listen, if I am wrong about Wilgy, and we can at least tie this up to give me a fighting chance, then I will walk happily into the noose tomorrow, and you will know beyond a doubt I am bad. But I am not bad and have been framed in such a way that I can't think of anything more to say than:

Oh, I just saw that you voted me.

Guys, I can not stress enough that voting me, regardless of whether or not I turn out how you think I will flip, is a bad idea. I don't like getting mislynched and will talk things out as much as I can. I just don't have a lot to back up my side besides my word.

a2thezebra wrote:

Scotty wrote:

S~V~S wrote:

Sorsha wrote:If Scotty is or isn't the fearless leader I'd think they would want to lynch him, especially if he is FL and they were able to convey to him somehow their identities. Keeping him alive runs the risk of him slipping up and revealing them or being hesitant to vote for one of them in a close lynch or any number of ways of outing them by accident. Plus, if he isn't FL of course they would just play along that he is to get a civ lynched.

I think if he is Nell he will die tonight by snidely whiplashes hand (unless that's not possible if Dudley is still alive) otherwise he is FL.

.....and he didn't die via snidely. So I'm willing to bet he is FL.

My main suspect for Boris or Natasha happens to be SVS so I'll put my vote there.

Actually your reaction to what I said makes me think you are Boris or Natasha. What you said up there would count for any bad team not just a split one, anyone can give anyone away at any time. The fact that your reaction to what I said was basically,so what's your point, makes me think I hit a nail on the head.

Voting Scotty.

SVS why not place your vote on her then?

You're either joking or you practically just gave her away.

Wat. Go back to the zoo, zebra. You're drunk.

S~V~S wrote:

Sorsha wrote:If Scotty is or isn't the fearless leader I'd think they would want to lynch him, especially if he is FL and they were able to convey to him somehow their identities. Keeping him alive runs the risk of him slipping up and revealing them or being hesitant to vote for one of them in a close lynch or any number of ways of outing them by accident. Plus, if he isn't FL of course they would just play along that he is to get a civ lynched.

I think if he is Nell he will die tonight by snidely whiplashes hand (unless that's not possible if Dudley is still alive) otherwise he is FL.

.....and he didn't die via snidely. So I'm willing to bet he is FL.

My main suspect for Boris or Natasha happens to be SVS so I'll put my vote there.

Actually your reaction to what I said makes me think you are Boris or Natasha. What you said up there would count for any bad team not just a split one, anyone can give anyone away at any time. The fact that your reaction to what I said was basically,so what's your point, makes me think I hit a nail on the head.

Voting Scotty.

SVS why not place your vote on her then?

Long Con wrote:Do we have a conclusive idea about whether the Narrator "directs a lynch vote" secretly, behind-the-scenes... or does it the Night before, with a PM to the directed voter?

Has anyone, to their knowledge, had their vote directed by the Narrator?

Just thinking about the last lynch, and whether it's a possibility that a Scotty voter's vote went to another player... and that Wilgy is Nell or FL.

I'm already drunk.

Here ya go, Wilgy:

DrWilgy wrote:

Scotty wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:Edit:

DrWilgy wrote:

Scotty wrote:RIP Epi. That was probably the cleanest choice Mafia could make.

So, again, I am not Fearless Leader or Nell, so obviously the narrator is in play. That is literally the only option here for why I was saved.

But I don't know what I could say or do to prove this otherwise. If you feel like lynching me again is the best solution to settle things, then go ahead. I will die, and we will be no closer to figuring out the actual Mafia.

Also, this is a lie unless you are bad. You are not nell due to NOT stating you won't die.

You're doing a great frame job, my man.

If and when you all team up and lynch me, look no further than this doctor over here!

WIFOM

Scotty wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:

Scotty wrote:RIP Epi. That was probably the cleanest choice Mafia could make.

So, again, I am not Fearless Leader or Nell, so obviously the narrator is in play. That is literally the only option here for why I was saved.

But I don't know what I could say or do to prove this otherwise. If you feel like lynching me again is the best solution to settle things, then go ahead. I will die, and we will be no closer to figuring out the actual Mafia.

How could the narrator save you?

Work was the most aggrivating thing today. I'm going to blow off steam by lynching baddies.

Well, I had 4 votes, and you had 3, so you tell me. I just can't tell yet if you are Fearless Leader or Nell

I'll never tell Scotty. No infodumping you see.

I don't think SVS is bad anymore based on Sorsha's actions... Not 100% I re read the things that pinged me and am not so pinged anymore.

This whole thing is WIFOM! People either believe me or believe you. I know that you have already been saved once, and I didn't have a good feeling on you before, and would have voted that way if I were around. I do not think you are Nell.

I voted Wilgy.

Linki: and even more WIFOM

DrWilgy wrote:Edit:

DrWilgy wrote:

Scotty wrote:RIP Epi. That was probably the cleanest choice Mafia could make.

So, again, I am not Fearless Leader or Nell, so obviously the narrator is in play. That is literally the only option here for why I was saved.

But I don't know what I could say or do to prove this otherwise. If you feel like lynching me again is the best solution to settle things, then go ahead. I will die, and we will be no closer to figuring out the actual Mafia.

Also, this is a lie unless you are bad. You are not nell due to NOT stating you won't die.

You're doing a great frame job, my man.

If and when you all team up and lynch me, look no further than this doctor over here!

DrWilgy wrote:

Scotty wrote:RIP Epi. That was probably the cleanest choice Mafia could make.

So, again, I am not Fearless Leader or Nell, so obviously the narrator is in play. That is literally the only option here for why I was saved.

But I don't know what I could say or do to prove this otherwise. If you feel like lynching me again is the best solution to settle things, then go ahead. I will die, and we will be no closer to figuring out the actual Mafia.

How could the narrator save you?

Work was the most aggrivating thing today. I'm going to blow off steam by lynching baddies.

Well, I had 4 votes, and you had 3, so you tell me. I just can't tell yet if you are Fearless Leader or Nell

Sorsha wrote:If Scotty is or isn't the fearless leader I'd think they would want to lynch him, especially if he is FL and they were able to convey to him somehow their identities. Keeping him alive runs the risk of him slipping up and revealing them or being hesitant to vote for one of them in a close lynch or any number of ways of outing them by accident. Plus, if he isn't FL of course they would just play along that he is to get a civ lynched.

I think if he is Nell he will die tonight by snidely whiplashes hand (unless that's not possible if Dudley is still alive) otherwise he is FL.

.....and he didn't die via snidely. So I'm willing to bet he is FL.

My main suspect for Boris or Natasha happens to be SVS so I'll put my vote there.

Interesting theory there Sorsha. Is that what you would do if you were Mafia?
I like how you've framed this so cookie-cutter. Did it it occur to you that Snidely may already be dead?

How much are you willing to bet? I'm not a betting man but I love to gamble when I know I have the advantage.

RIP Epi. That was probably the cleanest choice Mafia could make.

So, again, I am not Fearless Leader or Nell, so obviously the narrator is in play. That is literally the only option here for why I was saved.

But I don't know what I could say or do to prove this otherwise. If you feel like lynching me again is the best solution to settle things, then go ahead. I will die, and we will be no closer to figuring out the actual Mafia.

Yo guys. I am not Fearless Leader or Nell.
Figure that one out. I had to.

Matt wrote:

Scotty wrote:The consequence is another day gone without catching a baddie if you are wrong.

Don't you mean "when" he's wrong?

It's purely hypothetical. Stop trying to catch me on syntax. I'm messy but not that messy.v

DrWilgy wrote:

Scotty wrote:

Matt wrote:

Sloonei wrote:Nell

Why can't he be Fearless Leader?

Unless you think MP was Fearless Leader

I guess we can lynch you and find out.

Or we can lynch you on a 50% chance of you being bad. With little to no consequence if you aren't.

...OR!!! We could lynch SVS

Hi Matt!!!! We are one the same team. I feel it in my fibia.

The consequence is another day gone without catching a baddie if you are wrong.

Matt wrote:

Scotty wrote:

Matt wrote:

Sloonei wrote:Nell

Why can't he be Fearless Leader?

Unless you think MP was Fearless Leader

I guess we can lynch you and find out.

That was defensive. I wasn't saying you definitely were Fearless Leader, just don't know why da Sloon jumped to Nell.

Linki - Wilgy, agree on everything you've said. Everything.

I mean, it's no secret I've wanted your doppelgänger lynched.

DrWilgy wrote:

Scotty wrote:

Sloonei wrote:It is a swell game, if I must tell

Oh hell, what's the smell?

And Matt is the reason thw game fell...

Matt dropped the ball like the Bernie voters in Massachusettes dropped the ball showing up to the polls.

Matt wrote:

Sloonei wrote:Nell

Why can't he be Fearless Leader?

Unless you think MP was Fearless Leader

I guess we can lynch you and find out.

Sloonei wrote:It is a swell game, if I must tell

Oh hell, what's the smell?

Sloonei wrote:Nell

Oh I like this game!

Bell

DrWilgy wrote:

S~V~S wrote:Scotty is not in the house. I hope you guys are right. He looks very different to me than he did in LOST Again, but that is my only basis for comparison.

SCUUUUUUMMMMM!!!!! SVS IS SCUUUUUUUUUMMMM!!!!

Also I was triple teamed by three lovely women yesterday *blushes*

Why? Why is that particular post so damning for SVS? A friend wants to know.

bea wrote:Just got to work running late. Making an unsure trust vote for Scotty if you guys think it's best.

What makes you trust the thread more than just your reads? This reads pretty weak, IMO. I thought you had some good observations going before you came in.

S~V~S wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

S~V~S wrote:Of the people with votes, I think Scotty DOES have a baddie game. I am not sure I am seeing it here.

Can you elaborate?

It is hard to explain; he just *feels* jabbier to me when he's bad, not unlike how I view LC when he's bad; he makes little one liner pokes at people for reasons I don't fathom. Which isn't to say *I* have to fathom everyone elses thoughts. But in LOST Again I read Scottys posts with my forehead scrinched up and one eyebrow almost in my hairline. In LOST Again, I could pretty much pull him out of a hat after a few posts. I am not seeing it as much here. He danced around it a bit more, IMO. Here he is pretty much sticking to his guns. He looks totally different to me than he looked in that game, and more like he does in the games I have seen him mislynched.

BUT God knows I could be wrong, though; see the last 2 lynches. My civ game always goes off the rails when I have to defend before I get a chance to settle in to the thread.

@Bea, yeah I kinda agree. But even if Llama were to allow votes for Matt (and in the past he has not cut replacements slack iirc) I would feel better letting him settle in. Replacing into a role taking suspish is not easy.

Which reminds me, I don't know about anyone else, but I thought Suspish-Gate in GOC was hilarious.

I appreciate you breaking down my baddie game dynamics. I legit wouldn't know since I've only ever been Mafia twice, but I'm sure next time I'm Mafia I'll mix it up. I am not Mafia this game, but love that my "baddie game" meta is being referenced as a reasoning to vote and not vote for me.

That was a weird lynch. Ideally I would have voted for to save myself in the wake of another weak round of voting for me, but I wasn't around since intermission of my show last night to defend against those stragglers.

sprityo wrote:Oh, hur dur I can't read.

Okay, I can just believe people vote fornscotty just for being Scotty

sprityo wrote:my conclusion, scotty is the mafia and congratulating himself on killing low posters since he knows it will benefit the game as whole, it's just after like the 2nd or 3rd time he said it is when i really noticed. someone said somewhere in Arkham i think it was "mafia love to talk about themselves" or something akin to that. maybe it was "power roles" v instead of "mafia." idk, maybe you can correct me scotty, but why is wilgy suspicious to you. Wilgy has like, nothing of product except maybe a few comments?

Your tune changed mighty fast. You were suspicious of me as of day 2 followed by 'well he's probably just Scotty being Scotty' and immediately 'he's scum! Let's hang im!' Hmmmph.

Why the hell would I congratulate myself? Yes, I believe in lynching no-posters because imo it benefits town if the Mafia starts killing the vocal ones early on, leaving ghosts to talk. Mafia killing no-posters helps town even more, and if I were Mafia, I would be completely against killing off no-posters. Strategically that's a ridiculous, albeit kind, strategy for Mafia.

"Mafia love to talk about themselves" ok. I don't remember anyone saying that, but that's a very generalized statement that doesn't apply to everyone. I've known many a Mafia just keep to themselves and cruise on through the whole game. I just love to talk. It's what I do, and I usually die because of it.

Why is Wilgy suspicious to me? You just re-said exactly why Wilgy was suspicious to me: "nothing of product". And he has still brushed off my suspicion of him.


Sprityo, I don't think you are good, and had I not had majority I would have voted you based solely on this comment. It tells me you didn't read my previous posts and are reaching for the moon.

Well that happened.

Epignosis wrote:

Scotty wrote:1. I don't really have a baddie game. "It would be like you to do this kind of kill. The only time I have been Mafia with Elo is in Home Alone, and the only other time was "Lost Again", which she wasn't a part of. So of course I'm going to rebel at her talking like she knows what I would do as Mafia, since she only has one game to draw from. That's my point.

2. I basically just explained this above. I'm responding to all criticism about me as I can. I'm always serious, except when I'm not.

4. I forgot the third

And my point is she garnered a strange reaction from you, given the circumstances.

Lemme preach on it.

Elohcin has no credibility in this game despite numerous people saying she's good and going out of their way to save her. Hell, she has two votes. Again.

Yet you seemed to react as though she had already made up her mind. You didn't welcome her scrutiny- you dismissed it. "lol u don't know me" and "this is WIFOM" like. She doesn't know what you would do if bad, that's true- but she does have more insight than most people do.

I'm willing to keep my vote here for now.

1. Note I am not currently voting for Elo.
2. Like I said I like talking and working to get facts straight. Even if she hadn't decided on voting me at that point, which I don't think she was, I'm going to respond to that. And then when she rereads me, I'll respond to that.

im currently in a show and need to go but will come back later

Linki: will look when I'm done!

Elohcin wrote:wow, I wish I would have read that linki before posting. Scotty, I can't believe you would say that. "Lol we were on a baddie team together once and now you think you know my baddie game so well?" As Epi said, I said nothing of the sort. But, that you would think/say such a defense makes me feel like your caught. I'm still going to re-read you. I have been crazy busy today with cakes and kids. Also, why do you say I'm responding to you with WIFOM? (WIFOM is over my head. Epi has tried explaining it to me several times over the past few years I've been playing mafia....but I just don't get it.) Can you use a different way to explain how you are feeling about my posts to you?

Yea, you caught me!
This needling seems like something a baddie Elo would do. <---- see, I can do it too.

WIFOM is a reference to Princess Bride with the wine on the table. It literally stands for Wine In Front Of Me. I'm also busy do not going to go it the depth of it, but (afaik) basically: it's an argument that has no defense based on discernible facts. Just convoluted opinion that the other person can't properly defend against. The wine could be poison or not.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

Epignosis wrote:

Scotty wrote:

Elohcin wrote:

Scotty wrote:Had a long day yesterday. Catching up now.

Glad Mafia is being merciful and killing off low-posters. More content = more power

C'mon SVS...is it you? I think you're playing with our heads haha.

OR, is someone trying to frame SVS. *ponder, ponder*

Scotty, this post makes me wonder about you. "More content = more power". I think it would be like you to do this kind of kill and then make a statement about it like that.

I am quite busy atm but when I get a chance, I am going to reread you.

Lol we were on a baddie team together once and now you think you know my baddie game so well?

Please reread me and let me know what you'd like me to respond to other than WIFOM. I like to talk, as you know.

As for your SVS theory, are you trying to frame SVS?

This post drew my attention.

"Lol we were on a baddie team together once and now you think you know my baddie game so well?"

A few things awry about this nugget:

First, there are a handful of players who are obvious when they are civilian or mafia. I mean like three or four. Scotty is sophisticated enough not to be one of those. So it baffles me that he (thinks he) has a "baddie game," especially here, where he's (to my knowledge and not counting games he is currently in) only been mafia once.

Second, Elohcin didn't say anything about being on a team with him or knowing how he plays. She didn't make a definitive statement. She didn't say she was going to vote for him. She expressed an observational opinion and then said she would reread him. Why so serious, Scotty? lol indeed.

Third, I forget third.

1. I don't really have a baddie game. "It would be like you to do this kind of kill. The only time I have been Mafia with Elo is in Home Alone, and the only other time was "Lost Again", which she wasn't a part of. So of course I'm going to rebel at her talking like she knows what I would do as Mafia, since she only has one game to draw from. That's my point.

2. I basically just explained this above. I'm responding to all criticism about me as I can. I'm always serious, except when I'm not.

4. I forgot the third

a2thezebra wrote:

Scotty wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:

Matt wrote:Thanks Zeebs and sloonei! Though Zebra's welcome also kind of came in the form of suspicion.

a2thezebra wrote:Welcome, Matt. I don't suspect you.

Well to be fair, zebra, you did essentially say you suspect Matt by association.

That's different. I suspect his role. To say that I suspect him would imply that I suspect him for something that he has said or done, and that's not true.

Lol...tomato potato

a2thezebra wrote:

Matt wrote:Thanks Zeebs and sloonei! Though Zebra's welcome also kind of came in the form of suspicion.

a2thezebra wrote:Welcome, Matt. I don't suspect you.

Well to be fair, zebra, you did essentially say you suspect Matt by association.

DrWilgy wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:

Matt wrote:Still catching up, but I'm a little saddened that my only two welcomes also came in the form of suspicions.

Welcome, Matt. I don't suspect you. I suspected MP though so you gotta come through with the town game.

Hi Matt! I trust Zebra, so I guess I don't suspect you either.

Zebra who am I voting for today?

Why do you trust zebra?

Elohcin wrote:

Scotty wrote:Had a long day yesterday. Catching up now.

Glad Mafia is being merciful and killing off low-posters. More content = more power

C'mon SVS...is it you? I think you're playing with our heads haha.

OR, is someone trying to frame SVS. *ponder, ponder*

Scotty, this post makes me wonder about you. "More content = more power". I think it would be like you to do this kind of kill and then make a statement about it like that.

I am quite busy atm but when I get a chance, I am going to reread you.

Lol we were on a baddie team together once and now you think you know my baddie game so well?

Please reread me and let me know what you'd like me to respond to other than WIFOM. I like to talk, as you know.

As for your SVS theory, are you trying to frame SVS?

Sloonei wrote:

Scotty wrote:

Sloonei wrote:

Scotty wrote:

Sloonei wrote:Am I still suspicious, Scotty?

Forgot to better answer this:
Yes and no.

I think you are less suspicious to me as you were to me in day 1, but a lot of my suspicion in you right now is predicated on MP/Matt flipping. You backed off considerably as Mp went to bat for you. Dropped off the face of the earth, if you will. But enough to come back and say you're up my asshole with suspicion, so there's that. Is there anything in particular you want me to respond to that I've missed, or am i just gonna stay in your crosshairs until you see me mislynchdd?

There isn't anything you can address specifically for me. I think you're bad more for the tone of your posts than anything you've said, really. I'll be home Saturday and hopefully if I'm still alive by then i can say more things and widen my scope.

Hmm. Ok.

The thing that I usually gravitate toward in games is concrete stats. Did this person vote this way because of this reason. I see save opportunities on day 1, but I find day 1 saves to be an aberration. My suspicion of you was hinging on your behavior and what I perceived as doublespeak in calling me out for making fluff posts when you yourself were fluffy as an alpaca. i don't like being suspected for little to no reason and I'd like to do what I can to change your mind on that, if you are in fact good. if.

I do not consider my case on you to be insubstantial just because it's based on tone. I usually judge people on their tone, how they interact with everything in the thread. It's worked well for me plenty of times in the past. But it is insubstantial in that I haven't shared any evidence for it in a while. This is a thing I'd like to do when I am home.
I'm pretty sure you already know I'm good.

No. I don't know anything for certain. But thanks for assuming

Long Con wrote:

Scotty wrote:

Long Con wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:People who are voting for Elo: Why are you doing this?

I'm not. Lots of posting last night. I have read through, now I'll go back and do a couple of responses. I'd vote for Scotty. Not for Epi. Not for Eloh. Not prepared to slam it down on Sloonei/MP right now. Indiglo may be bad, I don't have a good read there right now, but I'll vote indi to save any of the folks I listed as not bad.

Why would you vote for me, Shorty?

Little things. Your barefoot like moose comment felt like a soft roleclaim that was sketchy and gave me a ping. I'd have to go back and really put together why, part of it is recalling your actions on Day 0/1 as questionable.

I know that's not anything solid. Guess you'd call it a gut feel.

How's the gut feeling going? Are you still having stomach pains or do you have a better idea of why I'm one of your suspects?

MovingPictures07 wrote:Hey all, sorry again for my behavior. I especially want to apologize to Epi, indi, and our wonderful llama host since it was their posts I lashed out against. I dun goofed by not going to the MoD and just walking away. I can't stress that enough; the Mod on Duty function is there and I think many of us, myself even included, aren't taking full advantage of its purpose. I want to thank Llama for hosting the great game and a big thanks to Matt for stepping in for me at this time. I'll be out for good now.

I absolutely detest getting stressed out by these games, but it doesn't seem to ever matter how much work I really have to do or how much I try not to involve myself in the game, it always eventually lands me in trouble now that I'm in the PhD program it seems. I just am battling some inner demons (and have been throughout the program) and I let my recent sense of insecurity with regards to my current (lack of, or at least that's my feeling) progress in the program spill over into the game. It's my own fault, really. I'm putting this in green because I don't feel it is appropriate for me to say anything else on-topic, but I realize that in the end all of what I'm saying will inevitably influence the game -- I wanted all of this to be said regardless. Even though I've flirted with taking playing breaks over the last half a year, I think I just really need to force myself away from playing for a while, get some perspective, and at least get through the next couple of semesters first. I took a couple of month break missing out on Recruitment, Champions, etc., but apparently it just doesn't matter because of everything I'm dealing with throughout the program. I just don't get any real social interaction in any aspect of my life right now, and you all are truly awesome and a treasured part of my life, so that's what keeps dragging me back into playing. I just really enjoy playing these games with you all so much. It's a weird conundrum.

Anyway, I'll be definitely around with Smashfest, other OT stuff, and I'm more than happy to host mafia games too -- that isn't nearly as stressful an experience for me. Guess I'll just have to exercise more self-discipline re: playing. For those of you who signed up for Turf Wars, I'll see you there soon.

im batting inner demons from eating too many bananas and no matter how much fiber I ingest, they won't come out any way but forcibly.

Sloonei wrote:

Scotty wrote:

Sloonei wrote:Am I still suspicious, Scotty?

Forgot to better answer this:
Yes and no.

I think you are less suspicious to me as you were to me in day 1, but a lot of my suspicion in you right now is predicated on MP/Matt flipping. You backed off considerably as Mp went to bat for you. Dropped off the face of the earth, if you will. But enough to come back and say you're up my asshole with suspicion, so there's that. Is there anything in particular you want me to respond to that I've missed, or am i just gonna stay in your crosshairs until you see me mislynchdd?

There isn't anything you can address specifically for me. I think you're bad more for the tone of your posts than anything you've said, really. I'll be home Saturday and hopefully if I'm still alive by then i can say more things and widen my scope.

Hmm. Ok.

The thing that I usually gravitate toward in games is concrete stats. Did this person vote this way because of this reason. I see save opportunities on day 1, but I find day 1 saves to be an aberration. My suspicion of you was hinging on your behavior and what I perceived as doublespeak in calling me out for making fluff posts when you yourself were fluffy as an alpaca. i don't like being suspected for little to no reason and I'd like to do what I can to change your mind on that, if you are in fact good. if.

Sloonei wrote:What thoughts do we all have on Bea? This is the first time we've played together, I think.

She's usually busy working 25 hour days, so I had nothing on her until today. I tend to agree with her opinion of Elo and I'm leaning civ right now.

Sloonei wrote:Am I still suspicious, Scotty?

Forgot to better answer this:
Yes and no.

I think you are less suspicious to me as you were to me in day 1, but a lot of my suspicion in you right now is predicated on MP/Matt flipping. You backed off considerably as Mp went to bat for you. Dropped off the face of the earth, if you will. But enough to come back and say you're up my asshole with suspicion, so there's that. Is there anything in particular you want me to respond to that I've missed, or am i just gonna stay in your crosshairs until you see me mislynchdd?

I'm sorry it's gotten to that point, Mp! I do look forward to playing with you again if and when you choose to play again.

thellama73 wrote:Effective immediately, Matt is replacing MovingPictures07

Is he exempt from votes today?

I want to give Matt a chance here, but I still think MP's actions reflected on his role, and I can't shake that feeling that he is just a frustrated baddie.

I'm going to agree with Sloonei's sentiment that I have been entirely focused on Mp and could focus my attention elsewhere.

Sprityo and Wilgy are suspicious to me.

Sprityo for offering no reason why he suspects me, except that he thinks I should be at the bottom of the rainbow list. Well sprityo, I think horses should be made of cotton candy. Doesn't mean they are or ever will be.

Wilgy has not offered anything in this game in terms of substance. frankly I don't remember much of what he has offered to the table. He seems wholly agreeable and that always makes me pause.

Tldr: Let's get beers after we lynch you in this game for being bad, MP.

Actually, I missed that long linki. Can I just have a heart to heart with you for a sec, MP? I don't care what alignment you are, but let me be frank.

You are a great person. You put your heart into the ring of the game, even when you don't have time. And especially when you don't have time, I see that pull and that desire to want to be more involved even more, and I've been there. It stresses me the fuck out, and I know you must be even more stressed.

I think you are a great player and I would hate that you would quit in the wake of a perception where no one gives a shit about what you have to say, and how everyone seems out to get you. It's super frustrating, and it's not a reflection of who you are as a person or a player.

I wanted to quit after Recruitment IV because I had over 1,000 posts in that game, really had a great time but I spent WAY too much time ISOing people, doing everything in my power to win. But I always felt like I had people shooting me down, and when I died late in the game, and didn't win, it felt fruitless. Like, I expected everyone to have put in as much work and hours as I had that game, or at least that I would get a reward of some sort for the amount of effort I threw into it. I felt shorted and it was quite a demoralizing loss. I felt like a bad player and no one cared about what i did or didn't do.

I'm fairly new here, relatively. And I have seen a huge influx from the veterans of the site appealing more and more to emotion regarding the way things used to be, and the general feel of threads being more confrontational. I feel like there is a slight disconnect somewhere, and anticipate that the MOD on duty function is not being utilized: helping settle personal attacks on behaviors and ethics.

You're the man. This is your site as much as it is any of the recruits that make up for it. From student to teacher: I have found to take nothing personal online, and to approach things here as I would my work. I'm an actor as you know, and get rejected. A lot. When I mentally prepare for a role, and spend hours combing over sides and plays and songs and shit, and go in to the audition and think I fucking killed it, I used to get really overhyped. I expected something from the auditor. I had an end result, for sure. But where I went wrong, and what made me feel disenfranchised down the line, was that the results weren't coming, and it wasn't fun anymore. I forgot what it meant to be a performer, I forgot what I had signed up for. It started turning into a routine of getting up with guarded expectations, and a sad veil of desperation for wanting to be better.

But then I decided one day and just said "fuck it" and went in to just say the lines. Have a moment in a room with some others, and forget about it. I'd cram for an audition, walk in like I didn't have anything to fight for, and just did the part. And I started booking. And those that I was rejected from? I don't even remember those. I just remember experiencing a moment in time with some strangers.

in application to Mafia, I regrouped, and decided that it wasn't, in fact, the be-all-end-all if I didn't win a game. I've been personally attacked on my character, and it doesn't phase me. I rarely get incensed with games because I take nothing seriously. Lately I put in what I feel like I want to put in. And if people find that suspicious, then oh well. I don't owe anyone here anything, and I shouldn't expect people to believe me in any capacity of alignment.

You've had more experience than I have in Mafia, and for sure on this site. I ask that you don't let this get you down. Because I truly treasure everyone on this site, including you. I really do like playing with you. And I would hope that the pissing matches that some people have been getting into are just game-related and don't transition into the real world. My mom taught me the saying: "what other people think of me is none of my business" and I stand by it. We can't control what everyone says it does, but we can control how we take what other people say about or to us.

Also, you've just reminded me that I need to get new socks. No joke, I just noticed a giant hole on my left one right now. Don't buy 5-Star Walmart brand socks, kiddos.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:Also regarding CFDs, disagree with my hunting if you wish, but I had e best interests of town at heart and I think that was evident. I also could not have accomplished the switch to indi if no one followed me. And let's not forget that I did it because I found the main candidates (Elo, me, Sloonei) unsatisfactory. Because they were.

CFD is stupid. It rarely works. Just like rainbow lists are bullshit. I'm sorry, but a lot of the stuff brought over from RYM just sucks. Y'all keep on with it if it makes you happy, but not this cowboy.

You can do whatever you want but I would appreciate it if we didn't mock each other's methods. I'm so fucking sick of the rainbow list bashing. I can't ever go a game without someone complaining about it. Just shut up about it everyone. It gets real old real fast.

I like my socks white, like my chocolate.

If the strategy works, then I'm all for it. I'm not going to get into the semantics of your lists, because everyone has lists. Yours can just stick out which makes it more easily accessible for everyone. Which is a double edged sword. I mean, I generally like them, except when I'm on the bottom. Then I don't care for them.

Linki: ok Mp. I'm sorry you're not having fun if you're not just actually appealing to emotion right now. I'm only on you because I think you're bad, and, as I said yesterday, your flip would make me feel better about a myriad of people. You are reading me wrong as you read indiglo wrong, and I just don't think that is a civ-minded thinker.

sprityo wrote:Regarding your lost? Well I would move everyone below yellow up a level then leave epi where he is

Maybe move Scotty and elo down

Oh yeah? Why's that? Because I look great in red? (I don't, the blue brings out my eyes more)

Linki: I'm getting there Sloons. Still a page behind

Ah, but see, that theory doesn't work if i still assume you smooched yourself. Because Natasha would not have been able to tell you she was blocked. That theory needs some work, sorry. Ignore me.

MovingPictures07 wrote:Lastly, (sorry I meant to say this before but I didn't think of it) I was OK with myself getting lynched over Sloonei at first during EoD d2 because we had the same number of votes, I was still inactive and was convinced I wouldn't properly get into the game in time, and I could see that he had heavily invested himself, particularly more than I had, and had a firmer grasp on the game. I was willing to make that sacrifice for the better of town, at least at first, but I'd rather not die now frankly if I don't have to.

"I was convinced I wouldn't properly get into the game in time"
Followed by 100 posts to prove you were. If Sloonei (or maybe Elo) had received no votes, I wonder if you would have come back so fiercely from PHd land to be so involved. Because it seems convenient.

Lol. Ok. Get this, and I have nothing to back this up, just a heads up:
My theory is that you are Fearless Leader and didn't have a care to the wind if you lose your immunity, but maybe had a change of heart when your partners announced themselves via some code, and that one of them had actually been on the chopping block.

Long Con wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:GTH mafia team right now: Sorsha, Long Con, and Scotty is seeming to be a very real possibility.

I suppose that my suspicions of Sorsha and Scotty are textbook distancing? At least take them before you take me.