The Syndicate

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jan 18, 2019 9:41 pmWe did

Psh I figured as much.

And which team tried to NK me?

Wow nice game, great hosting as usually. I've got no regrets about how I acted at all. The only regrets I do have is nobody lynched DH or Mac when I told them to

Oh and that I kept hitting civs with my lie detection and not the two mafia members who could flip me bad which honestly was my goal up until I was lynched.

Someday I'll get to be an epic 3p or mafia role in and LC/BR game and not be stuck as a civvie.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Dec 25, 2018 3:46 am That was for you

*strokes photo of sig*

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 22, 2018 12:49 pm
@sig

Stop lying as a townie. Getting yourself lynched is not good play and hurts your faction.

No.

Thanks for the game! LC n BR I'm ready for the next one.

Meaning follow up on those who switched when it was tranq vs wily who wad online and flipped it.

Who said they'd be around or was online AMD didn't pop in. In the last hour ect.

Based off of the last few phases there should've been more then enough ppl on last minute ie rhe madia last few phases fucked around with the lynch

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 21, 2018 11:32 pm Well I hope you're Mafia sig because waiting til the last minute to infodump was pretty dumb if you're a civ.

No it wasnt.

Delete those who are online but didny switch ie bob loran ect

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 21, 2018 11:17 pm What was his lie?

That he was a civ.

Enrique wrote: ↑Fri Dec 21, 2018 11:15 pm Dude how could you seriously look at your 12 votes vs the runner up's 3 and think "I should deny having the one role I can possibly have as a civ".

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 21, 2018 11:15 pm And your liar was ... DDL?

Yea he isn't a civ. Could be 3p, but most likely mafia.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Dec 21, 2018 11:14 pm
sig wrote: ↑Fri Dec 21, 2018 11:13 pm SVS
Sab
Sloonie

are all civs of course this doesn't take into account recruitment or other role powers, but I'm fairly confident it's right.

Day 1 I kinda blew my check oops.
When did you check each of us and why?

Sab last phase since I was convinced she was lying about the crooked blade thing
SVS since I can't read her worth a damn and her defense of me was meh.
And I checked you since I thought you were mafia back in the second phase.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 21, 2018 11:14 pm [VOTE: sig] aubergine and may JaggedJimmyJay have mercy on your soul

Linki: And so it begins...

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 21, 2018 11:12 pm This is exactly what a Mafia psionic ninja would be doing tbh. Why would he want to share what he knows with the town?

Nah as mafia I'd feed y'all false info for shits and giggles with one thing being true. My thought process was mafia will be more likely to try to kill these people now.

SVS
Sab
Sloonie

are all civs of course this doesn't take into account recruitment or other role powers, but I'm fairly confident it's right.

Day 1 I kinda blew my check oops.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Dec 21, 2018 11:11 pm sig, the mafia already have a list of people to go after. It's called "NOT US."

Stop being foolish.

Enrique wrote: ↑Fri Dec 21, 2018 11:07 pm This may be interpreted as anti-town, but...

sig deserves it.

Claiming early would've gotten me nothing. So I have no regret if y'all are stupid enough to lynch me it's the civs funeral.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 21, 2018 11:04 pm
sig wrote: ↑Fri Dec 21, 2018 11:03 pm Same for Mac or Epi I can't imagine both being good tbh.
Based on what logic? Epignosis and I have been townies together in almost every game we've played together ...

Gut/feeling.

So I got alot of truths, today was my first lie. I question dumping them all since that would give the mafia a list of people to go after. Ya know what I'm saying?

I'd say after DDL look at Enrique for sure, no info there just gut. Same for Mac or Epi I can't imagine both being good tbh.

Wow i'm realllllly close to getting axed. SO I'm the ninja, yup Mac was right so was whichever mafia team tried to kill me the other night. I didn't wanna claim claim since it would paint a target on my back plus it makes my role so much less useful, but to bad. So how bout you don't lynch me and instead lynch DDL? Who I know for a fact isn't a civ.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Dec 21, 2018 9:07 pm After all these years it's still amusing to me how easily sig gets lynched.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Dec 21, 2018 9:16 pm I've tried pointing people in the right direction, but everyone has a hard-on for sig.

It's a curse I should've been born uglier.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 21, 2018 5:23 pm
sig wrote: ↑Fri Dec 21, 2018 5:21 pm I've got a Christmas Party to attend so imma be out for a bit, but I was reading over DDL he has to go. Ik for a fact i'm not mafia he was within the area that Jack saw, plus ik I was targeted to be killed and he was within the same area based off what we know. DDL is mafia, read over his posts and it becomes clear.
You need to get your facts again. I'm not in Jack's PoE. I'm only in that Sloonei 5.

You were within his map info or was it Sabs? Someones the night that DH I believe was targeted correct?

Which is how it was narrowed to you, myself, and timmer.

Also we can see DDL setting up that my claim, if I decide to do so, would be meaningless since who knows the alignments a very scummy move imo.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 21, 2018 4:24 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 21, 2018 3:03 pm
sig wrote: ↑Fri Dec 21, 2018 3:02 pm If the civs can't figure it out then they deserve to have me lynched. Teach y'all another lesson about mislynching poor little ole sig.
If you get lynched as a civ after refusing to claim in a game where claiming is allowed, it's 100% your fault.
Right?

What is the purpose of hinting but not claiming?

1) Breadcrumbing for later cred

2) Role playing

3) As scum so town doesn’t call you out for claiming someone’s else’s role

4) To evaluate if town deserves to avoid a mislynch or not based on hint catching abilities

Hinting is very valuable without ever claiming. Mafia frequently searches for claims in my experiences then they target either by night kill or lynch said person. Plus TS is usually a no claiming zone so little hints are all I usually give. Could I role claim right now? Yes, would it stop my lynch maybe, but would I wind up being useless probably. Plus claiming is boring and I often won't claim even when it's allowed.

I've got a Christmas Party to attend so imma be out for a bit, but I was reading over DDL he has to go. Ik for a fact i'm not mafia he was within the area that Jack saw, plus ik I was targeted to be killed and he was within the same area based off what we know. DDL is mafia, read over his posts and it becomes clear.

Enrique wrote: ↑Fri Dec 21, 2018 3:20 pm
sig wrote: ↑Fri Dec 21, 2018 3:16 pm Also just the simple fact we have a 12 person wagon is bad, it'll give us no info when I flip civ since it's everyone on the wagon.
This already happened when you got miraculously saved yesterday and the biggest tell was DDL jumping from your wagon to nova's.

When I said "want to vote for him then?" I thought I was talking to speedchuck about you, lol.

Lets look at some of these voters shall we?
sabie12: Okay so I was wrong, but her reasoning for tunneling on me is faulty. First she claimed I was making up info which was false and she believed that I hadn't voted twice which was also wrong. She's just been tunneling on me since I accused her.
timmer, Dragon D. Luffy
Both of these two could also be mafia, re the mechanics so it makes sense for them to jump on my wagon since if it isn't me it's one of them which it is.
Dana/LoRab: Been pretty inactive and just kept popping and voting for me, these are more of lazy civ votes.
DharmaHelper: Another case of tunneling/NO U. He wasn't paying attention to me at all until I said we should lynch him, since then he's been on board the lynch sig wagon.
Jackofhearts2005: Some map mombojumbo that could refer to other people.
Tranq: Wasn't he set to be lynched for mafia? What happened to that.

colonialbob:
sprityo:
ColinIsCool,, Enrique, ,

idk about the rest, Colin is a switch from defending me to lynching which would lead me to believe he's mafia looking for some civ credit, but is in the end okay with lynching me.

sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Dec 20, 2018 3:12 am 1. i know about every item in the game not inherently given to a player or by a player
2. i never died i merely faked my death
3. there is no such item on my list called the Mirror of Truth
4. Why was sig pushing to lynch sabie when i specifically hinted i was gonna use the item i got? it shouldve been obvious i caused my own death (if not prevented it)
5. I'm going to revive nutella as soon as possible
6. I am town and deserving so. I say we stop the random chaos and focus on one target

3. SO no mirror of truth? The one item that Jack was claiming made me bad? I don't care if he switched info that fact he was trying to use fake information to get me lynched is very very bad.

4. Man i've got no clue what's going on, you died and accused Sabie before death it was a logical avenue to pursue.

Also just the simple fact we have a 12 person wagon is bad, it'll give us no info when I flip civ since it's everyone on the wagon.

[VOTE: DDL] aubergine

Enrique wrote: ↑Fri Dec 21, 2018 3:13 pm
sig wrote: ↑Fri Dec 21, 2018 3:11 pm
Enrique wrote: ↑Fri Dec 21, 2018 3:09 pm pretty sure sig is claiming the ninja for anyone still confused fuck it
meh, I could see why you'd think that, but nope.
Wanna vote for him then?

Sure, I'd love for him to answer you though. What i've been noticing is that you've got some players who won't give statements that can be lie detected. So we had Juls who wouldn't say if she was good or not and just said I should be able to tell then she flipped mafia. Compared to say Sab who did say she was good. Which is the main reason why I decided to trust her.

Now in theory mafia could have a foil to that role, but I think mafia would just be more careful.

Alllllso it's day 5 and Mac is still alive, can we lynch him soonish?

Enrique wrote: ↑Fri Dec 21, 2018 3:09 pm pretty sure sig is claiming the ninja for anyone still confused fuck it

meh, I could see why you'd think that, but nope.

Enrique wrote: ↑Fri Dec 21, 2018 3:07 pm idk i'm just pissed off maybe sig is the right choice

Enrique wrote: ↑Fri Dec 21, 2018 3:05 pm you fucking know what i've been the one saying it has to be sig today but i actually wouldn't mind if the wagon turned to ddl

I mean lets compare.

Very evil looking, smokes, has a weird hat, and from one piece.

VS

A super cute kitty, with an amazing hat, and from Kentucky a state that's not as bad as Mississippi or One piece.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 21, 2018 3:03 pm
sig wrote: ↑Fri Dec 21, 2018 3:02 pm If the civs can't figure it out then they deserve to have me lynched. Teach y'all another lesson about mislynching poor little ole sig.
If you get lynched as a civ after refusing to claim in a game where claiming is allowed, it's 100% your fault.

LoRab wrote: ↑Fri Dec 21, 2018 1:21 am To be clear, I have no problem with a Sig vote, as evidence has been brought to the thread. And just voted there. But DH is not making this game any easier.

*DH is making the game easier for mafia.

Fixed it for ya.

If the civs can't figure it out then they deserve to have me lynched. Teach y'all another lesson about mislynching poor little ole sig.

sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Dec 21, 2018 2:59 pm
sig wrote: ↑Fri Dec 21, 2018 2:57 pm And btw I've been low key role hinting for awhile, I'm very disappointed that y'all haven't caught on.
wait.

who are you again?

are you new to the forums?

Hi i'm sprityo and most definitely not a doctor

You can inspect me any day doctor.

buuuuut right now you can help stop me from getting lynched.

linki: No

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 21, 2018 8:53 am Ok I did a quick ISO on Sig. Not gonna comment on things closely because I'll probably enter a spiral of laziness and procrastination if I attempt that.

His early game is pretty decent. He's hunting and showing interest in the game.

Night 2 he makes some very fishy posts where he accuses everyone at the same time. Feels a little like classic Sig tbh.

Then he makes some hunting posts here and there, but most of his effort until the end is either for defending himself, or tunnelling on Sabie. He really wants sabie dead.

I had good reasoning for her death and everyone else was just cool ignoring that map info.

In a vaccum that's not enough to make my want to lynch him. Early Sig is always fishy, so lately I'm making a point to leave him alone. While late Sig tends to become more useful. Then again, this amazing late Sig is taking a bit too long to appear and it's Day 5 already.

But we are not in a vaccum, there is information, and while I'm not sure if I wanna trust Jack, I feel like someone who comes here and delivers two independent pieces of evidence can't really be ignored. Claiming is always a risk that needs to be taking seriously, I believe.

Information about me and multiple other people whatcha doing is a crap shoot. Annnnd we can't really take what you say here in to account since you were within the squares to correct?

Also I don't feel like I have the motivation to stop the huge wagon, or to start another one. I was really in tune with that Tranq/INH/Quin thing and it all fizzled out, and now I feel like I've lost a grasp of who I read how. I think it would be healthy if we could try to go back to that state we had in Day 1/2 where we were just calling each other suspects left and right; It's like there are 10-15 players who are just out of focus anymore. Maybe it's because Sloonei wents less active and he's the one who usually pushes that stuff? Food for thought.

But yeah [VOTE: Sig] aubergine until I get a better feel of what to do.

Annnnd he's to lazy to do anything but bandwagon.

Here's my pitch DDL and DH are mafia, DDL converted DH and he's acting like an indy to survive longer. When did people start pushing for my lynch? When I said we should lynch DH.

And btw I've been low key role hinting for awhile, I'm very disappointed that y'all haven't caught on.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Dec 21, 2018 2:54 pm I'm still sick but I'm here anyway. What's up?

Linki looks like I showed up at an opportune time. Howzit, sig

We're about to switch over and lynch you, wanna join me?

You're using Sig not paying attention to claims = mafia, so is my entire team not paying attention or helping? Otherwise I'm pretty sure they'd be keeping me updated. Unless ofc you're trying to say I'm and indy which is just so silly.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 20, 2018 4:39 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Dec 20, 2018 4:35 pm I am sick and confused. Can someone please say, again, why sig is getting votes, and not someone else.
Jack: I see in a radius around me and one of these players tried to kill DH.

People who are paying attention: Understood

Later...

Jack: I see in a radius around me and one of these players tried to take my lunch money. 4 people who are paying attention and also Sig. I wonder who tried to take my lunch money. Probably Sig.

sabie12 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 20, 2018 3:02 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 20, 2018 2:12 pm Here's the problem with the Sloonei 5 that we don't have with my info.

1) There didn't seem to be much honest attempt to evaluate them. Luna flat out confirmed Gman and Sloonei didn't care. Contrast how I've taken people like CBob and Speedchuck off the POE. My information says they could be bad but I don't think they're the killers because reasons so I'm not demanding 5 bodies to resolve my information.
2) My role pm doesn't tell me Sloonei is town and it tells me that I am.

In conclusion, maybe lynch DDL later.
I assume you have some map location info which has helped guide your ideas. Since everyone's cool with info dumping sharing stuff which is still new and weird to me the info I have recieved confirmed that sig and speedchuck were near DH when he was targeted and DDL and DH are hanging together now. That info could mean a number of different things which is why I'm always reluctant to share because people just take info and then run with it. I dont care for sharing everything I know right away because that's a great way to get you nightkilled. At this point everything is all weird and crazy and things haven't been looking good for us. If we could at least have one lynch where we catch a baddie that would be great.

So we need to lynch Speed or DDL or both. Since one of them targeted DH correct? Plus the whole blade thing.

sabie12 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 19, 2018 7:27 pm
sig wrote: ↑Wed Dec 19, 2018 6:47 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:38 pm I asked this, Woman in the woods about "any shady, evil, scary characters" that had passed by lately.

To which she replied that she "saw sabie12 with a jagged blade with her." followed by if i "understood that innuendo" and gave me a wink.

To anyone still stumped, she has essentially told me that sabie12 is a member of the jagged blade. Who we know is one of the mafia teams
Then Sprityo was killed soon after this.
I was targeted after going after Sab, now people are trying to lynch me.

She's most likely mafia and being protected by teammates.

Sab survived by implying it was Wilgy who the old lady was referring to buuuut he flipped civ so it couldn't have been. This is who we need to lynch tomorrow.
As I've said a million times if this old lady thing was to be believed it is saying a jagged blade was with me not that I was one. I was wrong about it being about wilgy but even so I thought wilgy was suspicious for voting with no explanation and barely explaining himself. Now a whole bunch of people lynched nova for the same thing but that's considered cool. Who is defending me? People accused you all on their own not anything to do with me. Jack was the one saying he had info to say you could have been one of the ones who targeted DH and I happened to agree that that could make sense.

What are you gonna do when I flip civ?

I've spent some time, done some shit annnnd I've 180 on Sab she's most likely not lying about this. Oops tunneling sig.

12 whole votes I feel so important.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 19, 2018 8:17 pm
sig wrote: ↑Wed Dec 19, 2018 6:41 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 19, 2018 11:47 am SVS, Sig is also pretty inactive. That’s my point. Sig has a case on him. Nova’s case also applies to Sig (and Sorsha and maybe Dana).

Btw, Sorsha and Dana’s avatars are great. @Dana is that your gato?
And what's that case? Ive yet to see it besides sig seems bad or map shit that everyone ignored about other players. In fact one of the players who has map shit against them from a dead player, is still being ignored.
You freaking replied to my case earlier today.

Which isnt a case it's a set of circumstances and a bar that's only being applied to me. So I'll ask if we're taking info from the map/roles seriously why is sab still alive.

I encourage everyone to read through Sab, her posts seem slippery the way she talked out of getting lynched and directed civs to Wilgy doesn't look good at all. I'd be very shocked if she's pro town at this point.

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