The Syndicate

Okay yeah it was a risk defending IAWY, but I figured it was worth it.

@Golden we protected me last night so it wouldn't have mattered much. :P
Also why did you think I was mafia?

I disagree with vig taking out only lurkers. While it might work I think in the end it damages town more espacilly if your mafia members are high posters.

Soneji wrote:So was scum chat on Skype or is there a link I can get to it?

Scum chat was on Chatzy, idk about a link I don't think it saves everything?

Though why don't we use Skype?

Scotty are you really Taylor swift?

Dizzy I'm looking forward to playing with you again. Your posts were great.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I made a banner for the winners. It was produced with top of the line Microsoft Paint technology.



Congrats again to ika, Inawordyes, MovingPictures07, and sig for a great performance.

linki: lmao, I'm sorry Scotty.

It looks neat! Very retro.

This is my first win as mafia not counting Star Wars, since I was civ for most of that.

The first vig kill wasn't great, but his second was imo. A thread leader and big poster was mafia it was risky, imagine if they had hit MP instead of Golden last night.
So props to the vig for taking a risk in fact I'd say the hardest civ power role is the vig, but that is just me.

Oh and I will never ever trust MP and I think we should policy lynch him day 1 next game. :P

also good job town it was tough at times.

Ika and Mp I had fun in BTSC chatting with you even though you almost gave me a heart attack and thanks Jay for the great game!

Sooooooo

ugh

Ika MP I'm going to kill you both for day 1 and what you just pulled like five minutes ago.

So wait does it take three to hammer or four?

I knew it! Scoylor (Scotty +Taylor) should pay for all of use to go on a cruise or something.

hmm okay i suspected MM for a long time, I also suspected zebra and she flipped civ.

I think MM could be a civ.

I guess my lynch priority right now would be Wilgy, Ika, Scotty/MM

I'm really tempted to vote for Ika, but I don't want to fuck it up since he is yelling at me.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

ika wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

ika wrote:me and silver litraly had this same scnario once before where it was 2 scums (us), 1 scum, 1 town.

it didnt end due to a bullshit possible tie outcome

Sounds like you're upset the game hasn't ended.

ika, are you bad?

WILL YOU SHUT THE FUCK UP ALREADY YOU FUCKING SCUM THE FACT ITS NOT OVER IS FUCKING BULLSHIT OF COURSE IM NOT SCUM

THE GAME IS OVER TOWN DOES NOT HAVE CONTROLL OF LYNCH

VOTE IKA

Umm, nice analysis.

MM what do you think of Scotty? Do you think his RL made him busy or was it an excuse?

What does Scotty even do is he really like Taylor Swift or something.

........

Will you two stop acting like children and STOP VOTING!

Like I mean are you seriously on the last day No Uing each other.

I'd say in theory since we can tie it then it isn't over. Assuming all mafia vote on one wagon then all town vote on a mafia member and we win the flip.
3/2
2/2
2/1
1/1
It could come down to a one vs one tie tie. But, we basically just need to hit one mafia member tonight and then connect the dots.

what is a G?

That is the only one we have since Golden didn't flip as the two shot jailkeeper, and we know we have a vig, I believe.

yup we are in F or 1

voting unvote for the time so I can see the votes. I agree with MP we are in lylo. I think the possibility of even night vig just went up seeing how we had kills only on even nights. Golden was the JK, which doesn't help us much since we had a kill every night however, if he mentions the vig it could mean we have an every night vig who he protected twice?

I'm going to review some stuff. Right now I'd be fine with Wilgy. but I'm holding my vote.

I'm in the middle of school so I'll be in and out.

linki: If MM is mafia I so called it.

wait no no hammer

hello here, not caught up at all will read everything over and hopefully get out one more post before EOD.

VOTE A2THEZEBRA

Golden wrote:

sig wrote:Golden are you mafia trying to bandwagon onto me and save a teammate? Since you also led the CFD onto Frog day 1.

Just want to make sure that, whoever I vote for, I'm making the best possible choice.

I do have reasons why I think you are town too. But I am worried by the links to IAWY.

Okay, I did defend him quite a bit, but I did think he was a scum driven wagon mainly to get us away from lynching MM who I thought was mafia.

Golden are you mafia trying to bandwagon onto me and save a teammate? Since you also led the CFD onto Frog day 1.


I'd be happy to address your suspicions, but I don't really see anything? Besides the MM/IWAY thing, which I did stop pressing eventually since it would seem my case was a little weak and as I said earlier I was tunneling on him.

Golden wrote:

sig wrote:

Golden wrote:@sig - I'd like you to talk about what I just said. I'd like to hear your perspective on it.

Hello.

I've done the x is mafia if y is before. I think it helps mafia and while it doesn't always work I think it can help catch mafia.

Explain to me why you felt 'if IAWY is bad, MM is his teammate'. I don't really understand what your thinking was there.

Okay so on day 1 I believe MM wouldn't vote for IAWY to save himself, he did closer to EOD, however he quickly switched to Frog when he was still leading in votes. It seemed to me like he was unwilling to vote for a teammate.

Golden wrote:@sig - I'd like you to talk about what I just said. I'd like to hear your perspective on it.

Hello.

I've done the x is mafia if y is before. I think it helps mafia and while it doesn't always work I think it can help catch mafia.

DrWilgy wrote:Hmm...

Sig, was your suspicion of Marmot in correlation with IAWY? Do you still still suspect Marmot? How did IAWY's flip affect your views on him?

This question?

No my suspicion of MM had nothing to do with IWAY. I'd have to put MM as a scum lean however, I feel like I was being a bit to tunnely and that I might be wrong about him. IWAY's flip makes him look slightly worse imo.

Got lots of school to do today, so I won't be as active.

I'd still rather lynch Zebra then Wilgy and Wilgy then Scotty. If needed I'll switch to Wilgy around EOD.

Props to MP for the ISO thingies he's been doing. That seems civvy.

So I find his MM thing interesting I've been tunnely on MM and looking back it seems like I was being to paranoid, but this does bring some back. I'm shelfing MM for the time though and would rather not lynch him.


I think Zebra looks the worse from these followed by Wilgy.

What do you think about being on the same wagon as Soneji your supposed red check?

DrWilgy wrote:

sig wrote:soooo does anyone else besides Ika/Mp/Golden wanna post?

I was posting...

Well like the last two pages was them arguing, it wasn't a slam on the other players.

soooo does anyone else besides Ika/Mp/Golden wanna post?

Bet's about sig are not essential to the game, what am I something to bet on hmph.

definitely*

I'd really rather lynch Zebra today then Wilgy and defiantly both more then Scotty. I do find it odd though Soneji is on the same wagon as Wilgy.

Golden wrote:

sig wrote:This is a novel idea but how about we lynch Zebra today? She is interfering with any attempt to scum hunt.

Why do you seem so unwilling to consider a Wilgy lynch?

It was less that I was unwilling and more that I was the other wagon and if he had voted for me I could've been hammered. I was also to a lesser extent unsure of his wagon. I do think it was mainly civ driven and like it much more then the scotty one at this point, but I was still unsure. I've reread the thread and If it is between Wilgy and Scotty I'd rather vote for Wilgy him faking a red check is really weird, plus his lack of contributing.

However, I think Zebra looks much worse right now then wilgy and my vote will stay there.

linki: Yes MP it does sound and it is insane. Maybe we have an Ika/Golden/MP team?

This is a novel idea but how about we lynch Zebra today? She is interfering with any attempt to scum hunt.

I think she is more likely to be mafia at this point then Wilgy.

Oh and I also remembered another point agaisnt Zebra, the thing she did agaisnt Frog when he put forth is plan day 1. Where she made all those filler points to prove a point, it struck me as weird and not like civ Zebra.

Looking at the post count I really doubt MP and Golden are mafia, yes mafia can post lots, but that seems like to many posts. Plus to much game solving activity.

ika wrote: Lynch this scum now. If we don't whenever the vig is needs to shoot this to smiterines

Yup since answering my questions is realllly that hard.

ika wrote:

sig wrote:

ika wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

ika wrote:

sig wrote:Well you haven't even built a bad case, you've literally done nothing besides argue with Golden and MP about stupid stuff.

I have made my case like day 2 or 3 about your slip. nobody seems to care

Not true, many have commented on it.

None agree hence why I am saying nobody cares

As for the we shit I know some
Has givin sig some
Supsion

Just because people don't agree doesn't mean they don't care. I've yet to see a case before me, I suggest you ISO me and see your mistaken and move your vote.

When you litarly try to tell me what to do with my vote I know ou are scum it's never moving now

EAT ROPE SCUM

I'm not lol I'm sayying you should ISO me and see how wrong you are. ALSO you've been trying to do that to people all game are you scummy then?

ika wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

ika wrote:

sig wrote:Well you haven't even built a bad case, you've literally done nothing besides argue with Golden and MP about stupid stuff.

I have made my case like day 2 or 3 about your slip. nobody seems to care

Not true, many have commented on it.

None agree hence why I am saying nobody cares

As for the we shit I know some
Has givin sig some
Supsion

Just because people don't agree doesn't mean they don't care. I've yet to see a case before me, I suggest you ISO me and see your mistaken and move your vote.

a2thezebra wrote:You have no justified reason to suspect DrWilgy.

This is kind off ironic, like do you have a justified reason to suspect me? Since I haven't seen one yet.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

sig wrote:Zebra is making no sense and now out of nowhere suspecting me since I said she could be mafia? I also dislike what I see her hinting at since it is impossibly. I think we just saw a TMI scum chat slip from her.


@Ika read over my responses to your case on my slip, then tell me you still think it is the case espacilly considering the fact I'm most likely right about the world we are in.

What was this?

That they thought I was the vig, and she was either pretending to be a civ PR or threatening me as a mafia rolecop. Which I'll reiterate isn't true sine I'm not the vig.

He voted for him since Soneji was lurking, and had no issue with policy lynching him right?
If this was the case I think it was a dangerous gambit.

Also if it was a joke do you actually think I'm mafia or no.

Also what ever your answer is you should move your vote if your not serious.

a2thezebra wrote:

sig wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:

I was joking about the hammer, sig.

MP, my Matt hammer vote was because the evidence had convinced me and I didn't want to give mafia time to brainwash everyone into changing their minds and voting someone else. I was sure they would because I was sure that Matt was bad.

Oh well if that is true okay. However, I'm not sure it is. Zebra could very well be saying that since she caught heat for wanting to hammer me. Also saying that when I already had two votes making me only three away from being hammered is a very dangerous joke.

What do you mean only three? Three is a lot. I didn't catch any heat for it, you were the only one who took it seriously.

No three isn't alot. And yes people were giving you some heat/suspecting you.

a2thezebra wrote:

I was joking about the hammer, sig.

MP, my Matt hammer vote was because the evidence had convinced me and I didn't want to give mafia time to brainwash everyone into changing their minds and voting someone else. I was sure they would because I was sure that Matt was bad.

Oh well if that is true okay. However, I'm not sure it is. Zebra could very well be saying that since she caught heat for wanting to hammer me. Also saying that when I already had two votes making me only three away from being hammered is a very dangerous joke.

@MP I've actually changed my mind about MM I've bumped him from a mafia read to a mafia lean. I don't think mafia MM would wait to vote for me, my case on him remains the same though, he was saved multiply days in a row from a lynch all of which resulted in the lynching of a civ instead. He didn't join the IWAY wagon at first and when he finally did he switched off to frog as soon as he could. This points to him being a teammate of IWAY who didn't want him lynched. Him saying after day 1 silver being killed means Ika is town, which it doesn't.

He does look better for not hammering yesterday though so I'd much rather not lynch him today.

Ika is much more likely to be mafia, he hasn't made much sense all game, tried to get me and MP lynched around a slip which didn't exist as well as his vote record. I think he is the mafia member who bussed IWAY his teammate.


However, out of all three I think the best shot to catch a mafia member right now is Zebra. Her recent posts are very scummy, hammering yesterday, trying to get people not to lynch IWAY, Voting and encouraging people to hammer me with no case whatsoever, and then just disappearing.

linki: No Mp she hasn't just like she hasn't explained how I'm bad and why we should hammer me.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

sig wrote:

Soneji wrote:I am pretty sure town tracker is possible, if we are in set-up C which has both town vig and tracker in it.

But, there wasn't a vig kill night 1 or 3, plus I don't see the mafia killing Marco/Silver so I'm thinking we had a 1 shot mafia kill. So unless the mafia jailkeeper picked the vig day 1 and 3 yet didn't kill them yet then that would be weird.

Also notice she doesn't answer my question she just says I did it.

I don't understand why you would ask zebra who made the kill last night if you are certain that it was a normal mafia kill.

At this point, I'm happy to vote sig, but I'll wait until later in the day phase.

Why? I did get a little aggressive yes, however I explained why stepped away from the thread worked out took a shower and now I'm calmed down. Sorry if I freaked out a little. I'd also argue you just link two games, I think I freaked out quite bad in Pikiman (as a civ), but lets not talk about that game it wasn't my finest hour. :P

Metalmarsh89 wrote:For anyone who cares about meta, here's a couple links of sig getting lynched in previous games.

Bullets over Broadway - sig was scum: More flails in these posts. More CAPS. Not unlike what I see in this game thread.

Talking Heads - sig was civ: More civility, more reason. I was seeing this at times today, but sig's recent posts don't match this behavior at all.

That was my first game on TS and my first game as mafia. I'm CAPING since I'm pissed off, I've put alot of effort and time into this game and I didn't do all that just to get lynched by two people who aren't building a case, want to hammer me right after they just hammered a civ, and ignoring my counterarguements. How can I defend myself agaisnt people who refuse to even bring a case agaisnt me and call cases unnecessary? There is no way I can prove I'm a civ if people refuse to look at my posts and just decide I'm mafia it isn't even like they are bringing weak arguments agaisnt me they aren't at all.

Also in talking heads I had 2x votes so I knew I wasn't getting lynched. In theory I shouldn't have even gotten lynched the day I was lynched, but I forgot to change my vote.